From - Wed May 21 10:35:24 1997 Return-Path: Majordomo-Owner@lists.teleport.com Received: (from daemon@localhost) by greta.teleport.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) id KAA10006; Wed, 21 May 1997 10:21:52 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 10:21:52 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199705211721.KAA10006@greta.teleport.com> To: rossy@teleport.com From: Majordomo@teleport.com Subject: Majordomo file: list 'krnet-l' file 'v01.n013' Reply-To: Majordomo@teleport.com X-UIDL: aced44c66f7f095df142109626f8acd9 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 Content-Length: 39924 -- From: owner-krnet-l-digest@ (krnet-l-digest) To: krnet-l-digest@lists.teleport.com Subject: krnet-l-digest V1 #13 Reply-To: krnet-l-digest Sender: owner-krnet-l-digest@ Errors-To: owner-krnet-l-digest@ Precedence: bulk krnet-l-digest Tuesday, May 13 1997 Volume 01 : Number 013 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 17:38:24 -0500 From: Kerry Miller Subject: KR: Break-in oil? If you want some oil that's "not quite as good" to allow the rings to seat, why not use straight mineral oil for a few hours like the spam can engines use? Also, the purpose of higher rpm/not idling is to keep outward pressure on the rings to force them against the cylinder wall. It still seems to be against my nature, but it's the way to break them in. Back when I did car engines, we ran it long enough to make sure it was up to temp and nothing was flying apart, then took it out and drove up to about 70, then down to 40, punch it again several times up to 70. Ok, so the speeds don't work on the KR... Kerry ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 20:38:58 -0700 From: "David M. Gargasz" Subject: Re: KR: Oils for break-in MikeTnyc@aol.com wrote: > > >> When I asked for advise regarding the break in period for the very first > VW > >> lower end I put together, the reply was very specific. Check for oil > >> pressure, check for gushing leaks, then PUNCH IT! 2500 for 20 minutes > >> sounds about right... > > Has anyone looked into the ideal oils for this purpose? It's becoming > apparent in the motorcycle world (with which VW engines have much in common) > that SG oils are just too damn good, and your rings won't necessarily seat > properly if you use them on break in. > > Some racebike tuners are now installing pistons dry, so the rings will > supposedly seat instantly, before the oil reaches them. Others are throwing > borax into the carb mouths with the engine running, then changing the oil > immediately (no, none of this is made up). In the near future, I'll be > breaking in new rings on a motorcycle, and was planning a less radical method > by simply using nondetergent SA motor oil for the first 100 miles or so. > Seems to be sold in hardware stores, for some reason. > > Mike Taglieri hi Mike A ap told me to use 20 Wieght non detergent till the rings seat, no white smoke, then the recomended high detergent oil after the rings seat. Gene Gargasz % dave@erienet.net ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 21:24:06 -0700 From: Ross Youngblood Subject: Re: KR: Re: Progress Report Curt Martin wrote: > I would also keep an eye on cylinder head temps while doing this. You are > not going to be moving so the temps might climb... then it's a choice: stop > the break-in run until it cools off, or risk cooking the motor. (The choice > is pretty obvious..shut the motor off! :)Curt, Ahh.. waiting for the EGT and CHT senders to arrive. I've only got one so far, any hint on a good cylinder to choose? Eventually all four will be instrumented, and I'm considering desigining an engine analyzer around a good Motorola Micro Controller. But... thats too much like work. On the other hand $1,100 for an engine analyzer seems like skyway robbery when a micro-controller sells for about $5.00, and the thermocouples are about $14.00. All I need are some FET switches and I think I'd be about in business, on the other hand, if it was really that easy... -- Ross - -- Ross Youngblood KRNET-L administrator mailto:rossy@teleport.com http://www.teleport.com/~rossy/N541RY.htm ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 00:53:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Baleco@aol.com Subject: Re: KR: Oils for break-in In a message dated 97-05-11 13:42:10 EDT, you write: << At 11:17 AM 5/11/97 -0400, you wrote: Others are throwing borax into the carb mouths with the engine running, then changing the oil immediately (no, none of this is made up). In the near future We used this old trick on bikes that failed to break in when I was a motorcycle wrench! Your mention of it is the first I have heard in a LONG time! It does work, Mike aint BS you guys, its just one of those things that you keep to yourself! :-) >> I think we're trying too hard again guys. First of all, when's the last time someone actually had a VW fail to break in properly? I had two now and they both broke in fine by following the simple instructions to use a standard oil of the proper weight, fire up, check for proper operation and fly it. Don't baby it. If you're gonna play with it on the ground, run it hard and get PLENTY of cooling air to it. Let's not start throwing stuff in the carbs, etc. I think we're answering a non-question on this one. Marty Hammersmith ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 22:24:13 -0700 From: Micheal Mims Subject: Re: KR: Oils for break-in At 12:53 AM 5/12/97 -0400, you wrote: Let's not start >throwing stuff in the carbs, etc. I think we're answering a non-question on this one. > Dont worry Im not throwing anything into the intake of my engine but fuel, air and a little turbo boost! I was just baking up Mike Ts story of the borax (we used industrial comet) to help break in a motor that was having problems, been there done that I dont know or care how, but it works! really!! _______________________ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Micheal Mims Just Plane Nutts mailto:mimsmand@ix.netcom.com http://www.netcom.com/~mimsmand ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 22:38:27 -0700 From: Micheal Mims Subject: Re: KR: Oils for break-in At 10:24 PM 5/11/97 -0700, you wrote: >Dont worry Im not throwing anything into the intake of my engine but fuel, >air and a little turbo boost! I was just baking up Mike Ts story of the >borax (we used industrial comet) to help break in a motor that was having >problems, been there done that I dont know or care how, but it works! really!! Actually I really wasn't baking up his story more like backing up! :-) _______________________ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Micheal Mims Just Plane Nutts mailto:mimsmand@ix.netcom.com http://www.netcom.com/~mimsmand ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 May 97 04:55:53 GMT From: mathewrz@iafrica.com (Rob Matthews) Subject: Fw: RE: Re: KR: Diehl gear geometry/construction - -- Rob Matthews Have a nice day South Africa email mathewrz@iafrica.com - ----------------------------Forwarded Message-------------------------------- > Vince writes > " have any of you considered building your own glass > > "wanna be Diehl" gear? If so, and even it's only a concept, Details > > Please!" > > I have done a design with the same wing attachment as the Diehl main gear. > The leg is made of Carbon fibre and Eglass with Epolam 2022 epoxy. I have > also done a design on a main gear that would be easy to retrofit existing > retracts to tricycle. The weight of the trailing link is not as competitive > as that of the composite leg, but I am working on it. Which will I fit to my > a/c? Answer the lightest at the end of the day. > > Steve > [steveb@aviation.denel.co.za] > ---------- > From: SMTP1@K1 - Server@Servers[] > To: > Cc: > Subject: Fw: Re: KR: Diehl gear geometry/construction > Date: Friday, May 09, 1997 1:50PM > > > -- > Rob Matthews Have a nice day > South Africa > email mathewrz@iafrica.com > ----------------------------Forwarded Message-------------------------------- > > > Mark Langford wrote: > > > > > > KRNetHeads, > > > > > > You guys that have installed the Diehl fixed gear: I wonder if you would > > > change the angle that the gear legs extend from the center main spar, if > > > you had it to do over again? It's waay to hard to guess how much bending > > > will occur in the fiberglass leg to guestimate if the angle is going to > > > work out. I guess the reason I ask is seeing somebody's photos on the web > > > that looked like the rear end of a swing axle VW, kinda cambered in at the > > > bottom. Of course all the weight was not on it yet, which is why I ask. > > > Are you guys that used it, and have all of the weight sitting on it, happy > > > with the camber? I'm about to install my spar/leg adapters, and would > > > rather avoid shimming the lower axle attach fittings if I can. Of course, > > > silly me, my thinner airfoil won't allow me to use the castings unless I > > > lop off half an inch, so I'll weld up something similiar in a 6.7" > version. > > > You know what they say about changing things... > > > > > > Mark Langford > > > langford@hiwaay.net > > > http://fly.hiwaay.net/~langford > > > > To add to this, have any of you considered building your own glass > > "wanna be Diehl" gear? If so, and even it's only a concept, Details > > Please! I've got access to plans to glass gear, but don't know how it > > would apply to a KR. > > If any of you would like to extrapolate(sp?) on the construction of the > > Diehl Gear, feel free to do it personally. Later! > > > > Vince > > > > > > -- > > Vince Bozik - Athens, Georgia > > Mailto:ICBM@ix.netcom.com > > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 13:41:49 -0500 (CDT) From: Steven A Eberhart Subject: KR: Status of new KR-2s plans? What is the status of the new, re-drawn, KR-2S plans? are they available from RR yet? does anyone know what the cost is for existing plans purchasers? I am still procrastinating - have the plans but haven't started yet. Hope to get my life organized so that I can get started this summer. Steve ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 15:34:29 -0400 From: "Jim Fields" Subject: KR: Re: Elevator control failure He's back! Laptop in for updates for a meer month... no big deal, just 689 e-mails to read that's all. I can walk on water too if it is frozen.... The following article is the type of research that the KRNet needs to continue to improve the KR series. Have any of you folks other than Don actually added this inspection window? It is now on my "Features To Be Added" list. Take care, Jim SKYTECH Innovations, Inc. Mail To: skytech@iserv.net - ---------- > From: Donald Reid > To: krnet-l@teleport.com > Subject: KR: Elevator control failure > Date: Monday, May 05, 1997 5:58 PM > > I spent a number of hours reviewing the archived info since I joined > recently (KUDOS to the folks that did all the work), and I noticed one > thread that was about the fatal crash that involved a failed elevator > control. I got the NTSB report (attached) that I want to share. I also > found a related report that involved a failure on the elevator cable. > -- > NOV-12-94 at PORTLAND, IN > Aircraft: LESSEL KR-2, registration: N95RJ > Injuries: 1 Fatal. > Witnesses reported seeing the airplane touch down followed by the > application of power. The airplane began to veer to the left side of the > runway prior to lifting off. The airplane entered what was described as a > 80 nose up attitude and then, according to a witness, the nose "fell > over" and the airplane descended to impact. Post accident inspection > revealed the nose down elevator cable failed at the elevator attach > point. > Probable Cause > The failure of the elevator control cable attach point and the pilot's > subsequent inability to control the airplane. > > AUG-05-93 at OREGON, IL > Aircraft: DARST KR-1, registration: N585D > > Injuries: 1 Fatal. > Approximately 12 miles southwest of the airplane's departure airport, > witnesses observed the airplane making three erratic excursions in the > vertical. Each ended in a stall and fall off, the last to ground > collision. Pieces of the elevator control cable were sent to the NTSB > metallurgical laboratory for eamination. The lab found a partial > separation of the cable in the area of the pulley assembly which resulted > in the malfunction of the elevator control cable system. > Probable Cause > The partial separation of the elevator control cable. > > In the first case, it sound to me like a failure after touchdown. My > guess is either bad workmanship in the original part and/or cables that > were too tight. > > In the second, a good annual and prefight inspections should have found > the problem early. > > In any case, I added two inspection ports under the elevator, one on each > side, aligned with the control. I used a hole saw to make the port and > a 2.5 mm birch backing ring. Then a round piece of thin plexiglass will > be RTV'd in the recess. On the top, I plan on making a fillet shaped > piece of plexi for each side. My turtleback will be removeable from the > front elevator spar to the cross piece in front of the elevator. > > I hope this helps someone else. > > Don Reid > donreid@erols.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 20:05:49 -0400 (EDT) From: JEHayward@aol.com Subject: Re: KR: /tools/ Progress Report In a message dated 97-05-11 16:00:54 EDT, you write: << If you wanted to use a power tool for ruff finishing (to get it flat) an airboard would be the ticket! >>>>>>>>>> Mike, What is an "airboard" ?? Carlos >> Hey Carlos.... you're such a thoughtful guy!!! You're just trying to make me feel good! Thanks..... Jim Hayward ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 19:38:33 -0700 From: Ross Youngblood Subject: Re: KR: Re: Elevator control failure Jim Fields wrote: > > He's back! Laptop in for updates for a meer month... no big deal, just 689 > e-mails to read that's all. I can walk on water too if it is frozen.... > > The following article is the type of research that the KRNet needs to > continue to improve the KR series. Have any of you folks other than Don > actually added this inspection window? It is now on my "Features To Be > Added" list. > > Take care, > > Jim > SKYTECH Innovations, Inc. > Mail To: skytech@iserv.net > I made both a top and bottom elevator bellcrank inspection area on my KR-2. I don't have the covers completed as yet. - -- Ross Youngblood KRNET-L administrator mailto:rossy@teleport.com http://www.teleport.com/~rossy/N541RY.htm ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 19:49:17 -0700 From: Micheal Mims Subject: Re: KR: /tools/ Progress Report At 08:05 PM 5/12/97 -0400, you wrote: >In a message dated 97-05-11 16:00:54 EDT, you write: > ><< If you wanted to use a power tool for ruff finishing (to get it flat) an > airboard would be the ticket! >>>>>>>>>> > > Mike, > What is an "airboard" ?? Its a pneumatic sanding tool that is used in autobody repair, it has a 2 X 14 inch foot that vibrates forward and aft. _______________________ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Micheal Mims Just Plane Nutts mailto:mimsmand@ix.netcom.com http://www.netcom.com/~mimsmand ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 22:03:21 -0500 From: "Mark Langford" Subject: KR: Re: Status of new KR-2s plans? Steve, Good question. I'm sorry to report that there's been a delay. I'm still waiting for CAD files. Otherwise, I have a set marked up and ready to clean up, and Rex Ellington has been looking them over as well. Not sure who to blame yet, but I'll let you know when I find out. It would be senseless to completely redraw them, when an electronic file already exists. It may be a few more years though at this rate... Mark Langford langford@hiwaay.net http://fly.hiwaay.net/~langford - ---------- > From: Steven A Eberhart > To: krnet-l@teleport.com > Subject: KR: Status of new KR-2s plans? > Date: Monday, May 12, 1997 1:41 PM > > What is the status of the new, re-drawn, KR-2S plans? are they available > from RR yet? does anyone know what the cost is for existing plans > purchasers? > > I am still procrastinating - have the plans but haven't started yet. > Hope to get my life organized so that I can get started this summer. > > Steve ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 20:32:06 -0700 From: Micheal Mims Subject: Re: KR: Re: Elevator control failure At 07:38 PM 5/12/97 -0700, you wrote: >I made both a top and bottom elevator bellcrank inspection area on >my KR-2. I don't have the covers completed as yet. > > >-- >Ross Youngblood Me too, I will use a 2 inch piece of plexi on both sides mounted flush with the fuselage. _______________________ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Micheal Mims Just Plane Nutts mailto:mimsmand@ix.netcom.com http://www.netcom.com/~mimsmand ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 20:47:24 -0700 From: "John Bouyea" Subject: Re: KR: Oils for break-in I think you've got my guess here; lots of cooling air! Someone said leave the cowl off? I sure wouldn't recommend that based on running my Cardinal checking for oil leaks after replacing the filter... bou KR2S - Almost ready to glue the first fuse side together... John/Johnna Bouyea johnbouyea@worldnet.att.net - ---------- > From: Baleco@aol.com > To: krnet-l@teleport.com > Subject: Re: KR: Oils for break-in > Date: Sunday, May 11, 1997 9:53 PM > > In a message dated 97-05-11 13:42:10 EDT, you write: > > << At 11:17 AM 5/11/97 -0400, you wrote: > Others are throwing borax into the carb mouths with the engine running, then > changing the oil immediately (no, none of this is made up). In the near > future > > We used this old trick on bikes that failed to break in when I was a > motorcycle wrench! Your mention of it is the first I have heard in a LONG > time! It does work, Mike aint BS you guys, its just one of those things > that you keep to yourself! :-) > >> > > I think we're trying too hard again guys. First of > all, when's the last time someone actually had a VW fail to break in > properly? I had two now and they both broke in fine by following the simple > instructions to use a standard oil of the proper weight, fire up, check for > proper operation and fly it. Don't baby it. If you're gonna play with it on > the ground, run it hard and get PLENTY of cooling air to it. Let's not start > throwing stuff in the carbs, etc. I think we're answering a non-question on > this one. > > Marty Hammersmith ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 23:01:01 -0700 From: Micheal Mims Subject: KR: Wankles Sorry if this is old stuff but I found an interesting web site at: http://www.monito.com/wankel1/munday1.html _______________________ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Micheal Mims Just Plane Nutts mailto:mimsmand@ix.netcom.com http://www.netcom.com/~mimsmand ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 23:17:36 -0700 From: Micheal Mims Subject: KR: interesting web site Another one: http://www.rotorcraft.com/ads/nhc.html _______________________ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Micheal Mims Just Plane Nutts mailto:mimsmand@ix.netcom.com http://www.netcom.com/~mimsmand ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 04:33:24 -0700 From: R Covington Subject: KR: Off Topic Info Request (No Archive) I think it was in Kitplanes sometime last year (1996) or possibly 1995 that there was an article on a ducted fan somebody was producing for retail. 20 inch I think. I can't find or remember which issue it was in. If somebody on the list here knows in what issue it appeared, please email me with that information. I think it was in a new products section or similar. Not a real big article. Thanks in advance. Pardon the lack of KR-ity. :) Robert Covington ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 11:40:13 -0400 From: smithr Subject: Re: KR: Status of new KR-2s plans? Steven A Eberhart wrote: > > What is the status of the new, re-drawn, KR-2S plans? are they available > from RR yet? does anyone know what the cost is for existing plans > purchasers? > > I am still procrastinating - have the plans but haven't started yet. > Hope to get my life organized so that I can get started this summer. > > Steve If you haven't done it already, try to get a ride in a KR and even try to get ten minutes of dual flight time. You can do this now! This is the only way to get some idea of how a KR flies. It might give you an idea of what modifications you might want to make, if any. If you do this, remember that KRs may be very different in performance and stability. One of my first impressions was how little room there was for 2 adults, so I decided to widen my KR by 2 inches. Also, goto the KR flyin in OK. Its lots of fun and you can get some questions answered. KRnet is great for questions too! Good Luck Bob Smith, KR2S in progress ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 11:23:04 -0500 (CDT) From: Steven A Eberhart Subject: Re: KR: Status of new KR-2s plans? On Tue, 13 May 1997, smithr wrote: [snipped my previus post as the following is more relavent] > > If you haven't done it already, try to get a ride in a KR and even try > to get ten minutes of dual flight time. You can do this now! This is the > only way to get some idea of how a KR flies. It might give you an idea > of what modifications you might want to make, if any. If you do this, > remember that KRs may be very different in performance and stability. > One of my first impressions was how little room there was for 2 adults, > so I decided to widen my KR by 2 inches. > Also, goto the KR flyin in OK. Its lots of fun and you can get some > questions answered. KRnet is great for questions too! > Good Luck > > Bob Smith, KR2S in progress > THanks for the advice, I am goint to the gathering, wouldn't miss it. Have the video of the last one and it sure got the juices flowing. Given my first choice I would love to build a plans built Europa, been there - flown it - fell in love with the handling characteristics. Only problem, Europa does not sell plans. They should as the flying surfaces are streight out of the Rutan text books. So, I have resigned myself to designing and building a plane somewhere between the KR2S and the Europa in size and with the state of the art airfoils similar in performance to the ones used on the Europa. Construction methods for the flying surfaces will be a clone of the Europa with Fuselage construction streight out of the Rutan EZ series text book. If I get ambitious I will do a honeycomb core vacuum bagged carbon fiber fuselage. Following the Rutan design philosophy, over design the structure and test to 200% of the flight loads. If it doesn't break - fly it. The Carbon fiber is to give the additional strength at the same weight rather than trying to use it to design minimum weight assemblies. I have already decided that the aerodynamics of the KR2S are too dated. Too much wing area and too ancient an airfoil. Will shoot for the same wing loading as the Europa and will probably put the pilot in front of the main spar with an internal fuel tank mounted over the spar - built into the seat back. Full flying stabilizer with anti-servo, tabs same as the Europa, will also be used. Have drawn up a set of 50% scale plans for a proof of concept Radio control model using an airfoil designed by Dr. Selig for model use. The airfoil will give a reasonable approximation of the Selig designed NLF airfoil I am planning on using on the full size plane. Have all of the glass, kevlar, carbon fiber, foam, nomex honeycomb and epoxy for the model. Hard to resist the temptation to go streight into construction of the full size version but I think the model first is the prudent path to take. THe Australian Jabiru engine sure looks tempting for power. More power and lighter weight than a Rotax 912. Europa has a project to convert the BMW 1100 cc Boxer engine for aero use but the project is having harmonic vibration problems. Ambitious plan but that is the fun of designing and building your own airplane. Sure would be nice if there was a KR4 with state of the art aerodynamics. I am not an aeronautical engineer, just a software engineer that wants to build a plane that hasn't been designed yet. Steve Eberhart Got my KR2s plans for Christmas. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 12:33:48 -0400 From: smithr Subject: KR: canopy side rails Between my job and running my kids to ice skating, I managed to make a little progress and constructed my canopy side rails using my design, a composite alternative to just foam/glass. The Dragonfly canopy will sit on top of these rails. I made them kind of like making spars: Spruce sandwich with spruce spacers and air spaces or foam. It was easy to deal with the longeron curve by wetting the spruce and bendin it. I started with 3/32 ply. Layed it on the longerons and traced it. Cut it at trace lines. Then took 5/8 spruce and ripped in in half. Wet the spurce and bent it to longeron bow shape using jigs. The 2/8 spruce looked too wimpy so I decided to add another 1/8 spruce for lamination. I then cut some 5/8 spruce into about 2 inch lengths (space these evenly or as needed for canopy fasteners), and sanded off about 1/16 of 1 side. These pieces were used as spacers between the bent spruce. I targeted a final dimension of 1 1/4" which would allow for fiberglassing later. With T88, I glued it all together (Used jigs up against the plywood and shims to hold it all together while glue set). Later, I sanded off the excess ply at edges with belt sander. I intend to fill the air spaces with foam and glass the top of the rail prior to attaching the Dragonfly canopy with glass/epoxy.I intend to wrap the entire rail with glass/epoxy as I build up the canopy frame. ======================= 2/8 spruce top view ======================= 1/8 spruce (curve not shown) xxxxxxxxfffffffxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxfffffffxxxxxxx x spruce spacer f foam xxxxxxxxfffffffxxxxxxx ====================== 1/8 spruce ====================== 2/8 spruce The final product is strong and light and left me with lots of spruce to connect things to. It took little time to construct once I figured how I wanted to do it. Disclaimer: this design is still unproven in flight. Bob Smith KR2S ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 10:19:34 -0700 From: Micheal Mims Subject: KR: Reductions Web Site Somehow I lost the URL for Reductions in Canada, does anyone have it? Thanks! ________________________________ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Micheal Mims Just Plane Nutts mailto:mimsmand@ix.netcom.com http://www.netcom.com/~mimsmand ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 11:07:23 -0700 From: David Moore Subject: Re: KR: Reductions Web Site Mickeal, Is this the one you are looking for? http://www.rotorcraft.com/ads/nhc.html At 10:19 AM 05/13/1997 -0700, you wrote: >Somehow I lost the URL for Reductions in Canada, does anyone have it? Thanks! > >________________________________ >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >Micheal Mims >Just Plane Nutts >mailto:mimsmand@ix.netcom.com > >http://www.netcom.com/~mimsmand > > > David Moore Hesperia,Calif. 92345 Turnkey1@MSCOMM.COM ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 15:07:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Horn2004@aol.com Subject: Re: KR: canopy side rails You might want to consider drilling a very small hole, or series of holes on the interior to allow the closed portion of your laminated rails to equalize the pressure at altitude. Would be a dang shame to be at 8,000 MSL and hear a sharp *POP* followed by the sight of your canopy departing at a high rate of speed. Steve Horn Horn2004@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 15:23:26 -0400 From: smithr Subject: Re: KR: canopy side rails Horn2004@aol.com wrote: > > You might want to consider drilling a very small hole, or series of holes on > the interior to allow the closed portion of your laminated rails to equalize > the pressure at altitude. Thanks. Good suggestion. Will do! Bob Smith ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 12:54:35 -0700 From: Micheal Mims Subject: Re: KR: Reductions Web Site At 11:07 AM 5/13/97 -0700, you wrote: > > Mickeal, > > Is this the one you are looking for? > http://www.rotorcraft.com/ads/nhc.html > > >At 10:19 AM 05/13/1997 -0700, you wrote: >>Somehow I lost the URL for Reductions in Canada, does anyone have it? >Thanks! >> Actually it was this one: http://www.mts.net/~davej/ <--Check out the .5 scale P-38 on this page! but the rotorcraft site is cool too! ________________________________ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Micheal Mims Just Plane Nutts mailto:mimsmand@ix.netcom.com http://www.netcom.com/~mimsmand ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 14:54:11 -0700 From: David Turley Subject: Re: KR: Reductions Web Site Micheal Mims wrote: > > Somehow I lost the URL for Reductions in Canada, does anyone have it? Thanks! > > ________________________________ > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Micheal Mims > Just Plane Nutts > mailto:mimsmand@ix.netcom.com > > http://www.netcom.com/~mimsmand The URL for Reductions is: http://www.mts.net/~davej/ - -- David Turley http://www2.tscnet.com/pages/daturley/ mailto:daturley@tscnet.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 09 May 1997 00:13:42 -0400 From: Vince Bozik Subject: Re: KR: adjustable horizontal stabilizer > Don, > > I think I'm pretty close already, having set the horizontal stab incidence > at -1 degree from horizontal. The airfoil is set to +1 degree with > reference to horizontal, oddly enough. I have .8 degree up and .8 down of > easy movement available, which I think will be sufficient for my plane. If > I have to move it, I'll probably just epoxy/flox the gap when the final > incidence is set, since the shim for my 2.25" deep h.s. spar would only be > ..031" thick at max travel. T-88 is reputed to fill that nicely, > especially > in compression. > > As for bolts, four through the aft spar (two due to the hinge) and four > through the forward one, mainly because it also doubles as the vertical > spar mount for the forward vertical stab spar and elevator bellcrank > bracket. If any slotting is required, it will be minor and will be done to > the spar. > > Now that it's all put together, I'll try to get a picture of it out soon. > > Mark Langford > langford@hiwaay.net > http://fly.hiwaay.net/~langford > > ---------- At the "Southeast Builders Conference," Me, Mark L., Ken C., and Art S., got a look at Jim Hills project. Jim Hill(correct me if this is wrong Mark) had a nifty little design built into his adjustable horizontal stab. It was a piece of 1/16 or so piano wire that extended from the leading edge(under the turtledeck) forward. The forward end of the wire was aligned with a scrap piece of ply that had incriments of ? degrees marked on it. I don't know if the increments were accurate degrees, or just a referance aid in alignment, but it seemed like a pretty neat idea. At least, it would be a good idea for someone like a clumsy memory like mine. I'd be willing to work up an image for those interested. Vince - -- Vince Bozik - Athens, Georgia Mailto:ICBM@ix.netcom.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 18:28:17 -0400 From: Vince Bozik Subject: Re: KR: adjustable hori...(Do Not Archive) Oops! Gee, I have no idea how that happened! I guess it's one of those "freak things." That was actually a message that I'd sent out a week ago. Sorry Guys! - -- Vince Bozik - Athens, Georgia Mailto:ICBM@ix.netcom.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 19:25:09 -0400 (EDT) From: LVav8r@aol.com Subject: Re: KR: Reductions Web Site Mike wrote: >>Somehow I lost the URL for Reductions in Canada, does anyone have it? Thanks! >> The url for Reductions is "http://www.mts.net/~davej/". I've got it book marked so I just copied and pasted it. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 19:36:56 -0400 From: Carlos Sa Subject: KR: RE: Reductions Web Site Mike, the address is in KRlinks (of course). Here it is: http://www.mts.net/~davej/ - ---------- From: Micheal Mims[SMTP:mimsmand@ix.netcom.com] Sent: May 13, 1997 13:19 To: krnet-l@teleport.com; irsoob@interstice.com Subject: KR: Reductions Web Site Somehow I lost the URL for Reductions in Canada, does anyone have it? Thanks! ________________________________ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Micheal Mims Just Plane Nutts mailto:mimsmand@ix.netcom.com http://www.netcom.com/~mimsmand begin 600 WINMAIL.DAT M>)\^(@L7`0:0" `$```````!``$``0>0!@`(````Y 0```````#H``$-@ 0` M`@````(``@`!!) &`" !```!````# ````,``# #````"P`/#@`````"`?\/ M`0```$<`````````@2L?I+ZC$!F=;@#=`0]4`@````!K``(P`0````4` M``!33510`````!X``S !````%0```&MR;F5T+6Q =&5L97!O``$P`0```!<````G:W)N970M;$!T96QE<&]R M="YC;VTG```"`0LP`0```!H```!33510.DM23D54+4Q 5$5,15!/4E0N0T]- M`````P``.0`````+`$ Z`0````(!]@\!````! ````````,&-0$(@ <`& `` M`$E032Y-:6-R;W-O9G0@36%I;"Y.;W1E`#$(`02 `0`8````4D4Z(%)E9'5C M=&EO;G,@5V5B(%-I=&4`! @!!8 #``X```#-!P4`#0`3`"0`. `"`%# $````%````4TU44 `````>`!\,`0````8` M``!W:6YG``@0`0```&4```!-24M%+%1( M14%$1%)%4U-)4TE.2U),24Y+4RA/1D-/55)312E(15)%251)4SI(5%10.B\O M5U=735133D54+T1!5D5*+RTM+2TM+2TM+2U&4D]-.DU)0TA%04Q-24U34TU4 M4#I-``````(!"1 !````5 (``% "``"[! ``3%I&=87D%LG_``H!#P(5`J@% MZP*#`% "\@D"`&-H"L!S970R-P8`!L,"@S(#Q0(`<')"<1'BD,@Q-#0"T6DM)+,,T',DLPM9,38* MH -@$]!C?05 +2=7"H)M8,@ASA$7!E`P= '.%M@$\ =0U5X4DP@`A % MP#\I'D%#RP!P'9!A'3!D;P>1`' ^>0(@'7 1@",0(&$_(-!K]E^\`4 `"# `@>!K]E^\`1X`/0`!````!0```%)%.B ````` ">_P` ` end ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 00:49:33 -0400 (EDT) From: MikeTnyc@aol.com Subject: KR: Re: Elevator control inspection windows?! >>I made both a top and bottom elevator bellcrank inspection area on >>my KR-2. I don't have the covers completed as yet. >> >>Ross Youngblood > >Me too, I will use a 2 inch piece of plexi on both sides mounted flush with >the fuselage. What's the point of having windows in the fuselage instead of regular removeable inspection plates? Even if you're planning to inspect the bellcrank before every flight (which I think is overkill), a conventional inspection plate would be better during inspections and would draw less attention to itself. I can picture how you'll fill your passengers with confidence when you tell them, "There's a part back there that'll kill us if it cracks, so I have those little windows so I can look at it once in awhile. . . ." Mike Taglieri ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 00:49:40 -0400 (EDT) From: MikeTnyc@aol.com Subject: KR: Most terrifying virus yet My sister sent me this. Thought I'd warn everybody. . . . Mike Taglieri > If you receive an e-mail with a subject of "Badtimes," delete it > immediately WITHOUT reading it. This is the most dangerous E-mail > virus yet. > > It will re-write your hard drive. Not only that, but it will scramble > any disks that are even close to your computer. It will recalibrate > your refrigerator's coolness setting so all your ice cream gets > melted. It will demagnetize the strips on all your credit cards, > screw up the tracking on your VCR and use subspace field harmonics to > scratch any CD's you try to play. > > It will give your ex-boy/girlfriend your new phone number. It will > mix antifreeze into your fishtank. It will drink all your beer and > leave its socks out on the coffee table when there's company coming > over. It will put a dead kitten in the back pocket of your good suit > and hide your car keys when you are late for work. > > Badtimes will make you fall in love with a penguin. It will give you > nightmares about circus midgets. It will pour sugar in your petrol > tank and shave off both your eyebrows while dating your current > boy/girlfriend behind your back and billing the dinner and hotel room > to your Visa card. > > It will seduce your grandmother. It does not matter if she is dead, > such is the power of Badtimes, it reaches out beyond the grave to > sully those things we hold most dear. > > It moves your car randomly around parking lots so you can't find it. > It will kick your dog. It will leave libidinous messages on your > boss's voice mail in your voice! It is insidious and subtle. It is > dangerous and terrifying to behold. It is also a rather interesting > shade of mauve. > > Badtimes will give you Dutch Elm disease. It will leave the toilet > seat up. It will make a batch of Methamphetamine in your bathtub and > then leave bacon cooking on the stove while it goes out to chase High > School kids with your new snowblower. > > These are just a few of the signs... Be very careful! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 23:50:25 -0500 From: Paul Eberhardt Subject: KR: Changed mind to DD ea-81t Pretty quiet tonight. I have now officially changed my mind from psru to dd for my Soob ea81 turbo. My reasoning (based mostly on info found here and on the airsoob list) stems from the rumors that the kr will gain more performance from the weight loss than from the power gain of a psru. I agree that the soob needs either a turbo or a psru to justify its extra weight, but I have now come to the conclusion that having both is unnecessary. I have chosen the dd turbo over the normal psru because: 1) I already have the turbo ($) 2) Reliability - less engine wear @ low rpm, and no belt to break 3) Altitude = SPEED! 4) I think I can put on a turbo for less than 35 lbs. If anyone out there in Class "Cyber" Airspace see any holes in my reasoning, please let me know. I know this is a decision that has been hashed over in a thousand heads. Thanks all! Paul Eberhardt mailto:tinker@state.net ------------------------------ End of krnet-l-digest V1 #13 ****************************