From: Majordomo@teleport.com[SMTP:Majordomo@teleport.com] Sent: Monday, December 08, 1997 12:40 PM To: john bouyea Subject: Majordomo file: list 'krnet-l' file 'v01.n088' -- From: owner-krnet-l-digest@lists.teleport.com (krnet-l-digest) To: krnet-l-digest@lists.teleport.com Subject: krnet-l-digest V1 #88 Reply-To: krnet-l-digest Sender: owner-krnet-l-digest@lists.teleport.com Errors-To: owner-krnet-l-digest@lists.teleport.com Precedence: bulk krnet-l-digest Thursday, September 4 1997 Volume 01 : Number 088 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 03 Sep 1997 09:06:49 -0700 From: Ross Youngblood Subject: Re: KR: major screwup? Alan, I don't recall any 5 ply 3/32 plywood, I used 3 ply for my fuselage and wing rib templates. The firewall and shelf are made from 1/4" 5 ply however, so perhaps that is what is going on. So I don't think you screwed up. What rev and page of the plans does it call out for 5 ply. Perhaps we can check this and clear up the plans. -- Ross Alan Moat wrote: > > I built my boat with 3 ply 3/32 plywood. The manual calls for 5 ply but > could not find any 5 ply 3/32 plywood in ASS catalogs. figured it was a > misprint in the manual. But now I see on Marks website in his spar section > a scarfed 5 ply piece of plywood. I hope this is a 1/4" piece. Have I > screwed up royally? > > Alan Moat > flowery branch > taom@randomc.com - -- Ross Youngblood Pager: (800)SKY-PAGE PIN#895-9073 SABER Engineering voicemail: (800)538-6838 x 1632 Schlumberger SABER Bus Line: (541)714-1754 (Note Area code) Corvallis,Oregon Mailto:rossy@San-Jose.ate.slb.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Sep 1997 09:07:48 -0700 From: Ross Youngblood Subject: Re: KR: major screwup? Micheal Mims wrote: > If you did so did I, I asked AS&S for the plywood listed in the KR2S wood > kit and that's what they gave me, 3 ply 3/32 birch certified aircraft > plywood! Maybe the mahogany is 5 ply. Not mine, I have 3ply 3/32 mahogany ply. The only thing I recall was the option of 90deg vs 45 deg ply for the 3/32 stuff. I purchased 90 deg. - -- Ross Youngblood Pager: (800)SKY-PAGE PIN#895-9073 SABER Engineering voicemail: (800)538-6838 x 1632 Schlumberger SABER Bus Line: (541)714-1754 (Note Area code) Corvallis,Oregon Mailto:rossy@San-Jose.ate.slb.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Sep 1997 09:11:32 -0700 From: Ross Youngblood Subject: Re: KR: Real video and Kitplane Ed Janssen wrote: > > Wonder if any of you netters caught Real Video (I think it's called) TV > program a couple of nights ago? I didn't, but my nonflying neighbor said > there was an amateur video segment showing the initial flight of an > experimental airplane, ending in a "cartwheeling" crash - pilot unhurt, > luckily. Anyway, he said the plane looked just like mine (KR-1). Just > curious. > > Also, nice picture of a KR-2S in latest issue of Kitplanes. Check it out. > > Ed Janssen My wife saw this... I asked if the pilot was OK. She said she didn't know, just that it was an experimental and it Crashed. How about some REAL Video of a successful TEST flight! Of course we don't know what type of aircraft it is either. -- Arrg Ross - -- Ross Youngblood Pager: (800)SKY-PAGE PIN#895-9073 SABER Engineering voicemail: (800)538-6838 x 1632 Schlumberger SABER Bus Line: (541)714-1754 (Note Area code) Corvallis,Oregon Mailto:rossy@San-Jose.ate.slb.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Sep 1997 09:16:30 -0700 From: Micheal Mims Subject: Re: KR: KR-2 Gear Castings, etc. At 08:56 AM 9/3/97 -0700, you wrote: >Brakes for a taildragger aren't really supposed to be used much I'm >told, except for ground loops. > Or if the end of the 800 foot strip is coming up too fast! By the way,..the Matco brakes work great! ________________________________ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Micheal Mims Just Plane Nutts mailto:mimsmand@ix.netcom.com http://www.netcom.com/~mimsmand ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Sep 1997 09:13:39 -0700 From: Ross Youngblood Subject: KR: [Fwd: BOUNCE krnet-l@lists.teleport.com: Admin request of type /\bcancel\b/i at line 2] This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - --------------FF6D5DFABD322C31DFF4F5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit - -- Ross Youngblood Pager: (800)SKY-PAGE PIN#895-9073 SABER Engineering voicemail: (800)538-6838 x 1632 Schlumberger SABER Bus Line: (541)714-1754 (Note Area code) Corvallis,Oregon Mailto:rossy@San-Jose.ate.slb.com - --------------FF6D5DFABD322C31DFF4F5 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: owner-krnet-l@lists.teleport.com Received: (from daemon@localhost) by desiree.teleport.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) id NAA15501; Tue, 2 Sep 1997 13:10:55 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 2 Sep 1997 13:10:55 -0700 (PDT) From: owner-krnet-l@teleport.com Message-Id: <199709022010.NAA15501@desiree.teleport.com> To: owner-krnet-l@teleport.com Subject: BOUNCE krnet-l@lists.teleport.com: Admin request of type /\bcancel\b/i at line 2 >From krnet-l-owner Tue Sep 2 13:10:53 1997 Received: from m5.boston.juno.com (m5.boston.juno.com [205.231.100.197]) by desiree.teleport.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA15490 for ; Tue, 2 Sep 1997 13:10:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from kr2builder@juno.com) by m5.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id QmX09999; Tue, 02 Sep 1997 16:10:03 EDT To: krnet-l@teleport.com Date: Tue, 2 Sep 1997 15:10:26 -0500 Subject: Re: KR: Ricky Pitman Message-ID: <19970902.151036.5118.1.kr2builder@juno.com> References: <2.2.32.19970831032526.009e2750@popd.ix.netcom.com> X-Mailer: Juno 1.38 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 2-8,10-46 From: kr2builder@juno.com (Richard E Pitman) Mike, I don't have the phone number handy for cherokee strip. Please call and cancel my reservation for three. Please E-mail the results. I will check back as I can Ricky Pitman KR2 Builder Marion, Arkansas E-Mail to: KR2Builder@juno.com Web Page: http://pw2.netcom.com/~rnricky/Ricky/Default.htm On Sat, 30 Aug 1997 20:25:26 -0700 Micheal Mims writes: >Forwarded memo about Ricky Pitman. > > >>From: gb >>Subject: Ricky Pitman >> >>Hi Mike, >> I don't know if you remember me or not but I am the guy that >was >>with Ricky and Donna Pitman at the 1996 Gathering in Pine Bluff, AR. >I >flew with Marty Roberts in his KR and He won the spot landing. >> Anyway I would like for you to put the word out to the fellow >KRs >>that Ricky Pitman went through a double bypass surgery on his heart >Aug. >28, 1997 at 3:00pm at the St. Joheph Hosp., 220 Overton Ave. Rm. >5210, >Memphis, TN. He is doing ok but he asked if I could get in touch with >everyone concern and let them knoew that we are not going to be able >to make >the Perry, OK trip in Sept. He will be home if all goes well by Sept. >8, 1997. >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >Micheal Mims >Just Plane Nutts in Irvine Ca. >mailto:mimsmand@ix.netcom.com >http://www.netcom.com/~mimsmand > > \ / > _\/\/_ >_____/_//\\_\_____ > > F-117 > > - --------------FF6D5DFABD322C31DFF4F5-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Sep 1997 11:44:58 -0500 From: Bobby Muse Subject: Re: KR: Ricky Pitman At 06:51 PM 9/2/97 -0600, you wrote: >Richard E Pitman wrote: >> >> Hello All, >>snip >> It is with great sadness that I write this letter. I had a heart attack at work last Wednesday night and double bypass surgery. I was already diagnosed as a type 2 diabetic and was fighting that to reinstate my medical. I am afraid that this has finished it for good. Any how, I am home recovering. I have almost everything needed to build and or complete a KR2/KR2s. All will be sold. Maybe I will be able to get to the next gathering. I may not be a builder anymore, but I will still feel like part of the family. >> >> Ricky Pitman >> KR2 Builder >snip > >> >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >Hello Ricky, >It is with sadness that I read about your unfortunate heart attack, but >your still with us!!!! I know how you feel - no I don't know how you feel, but I do know how you feel about not getting your own pride and joy into the air. Because, I am grounded too because of this stupid CFS, I think your recovery will be a lot faster than mine because I am >still suffering. I am sure you will remain part of the KR family for as long as you want to. >Take Care and God Bless! >-- >Adrian VE6AFY > Hey Guys, I can only try to understand how you feel about a temporary setback such as yours. Ricky, after your recovery, you'll be BETTER than ever. Go for full recovery! We will miss you at this gathering, but we want see you at the next KR Gathering, right? You know, once you're a member of this family, you're always a member. I don't know if you know or not but my Dad had triple bypass surgery in 1981, completed his KR2 in 1984, just won first place in the Sun-N-Fun 100 race this pass spring and will be flying N28RM to this years KR Gathering. He just turned 76 years old. You can do it! Keep us up date on the KRnet on how you are doing and we'll see you next year? Bobby Muse(N122B) bmuse@mindspring.com Wimberly, TX ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Sep 1997 19:24:34 +-200 From: Kobus de Wet Subject: KR: Testing PSE delete You should have deleted this without reading it said testing Kobus KR-2 ZS-WPX ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Sep 1997 11:57:26 -0500 From: Bobby Muse Subject: Re: KR: Tires Since I haven't heard from anyone yet and I seem to be having some trouble with the internet lately, I am resending this request. I need to find a source(quickly) for replacement tires for my KR. size= 11x4.00-5 LAMB You help will be apprenciated. Thanks Bobby Muse(N122B) bmuse@mindspring.com Wimberly, TX ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Sep 1997 11:57:24 -0500 From: Bobby Muse Subject: Re: KR: Web page pictures At 10:30 PM 9/2/97 -0700, you wrote: >One thing about drilling the holes in the spar caps for the attach fittings, >build yourself a good jig and take your time to get it right! I have to >admit my first two or three holes were less than what I wanted and I had to >use flox to fill the holes and then insert the bolts. I am pretty sure the >flox filled the excess area around the bolts in the spar cap but it sure >felt better to know the rest were perfect! > Also any thoughts on using the flox to fill the >excess clearance. >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >Micheal Mims That is just what I did. But I did coat the bolts so that they could be removed at a later date. Bobby Muse(N122B) bmuse@mindspring.com Wimberly, TX ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Sep 1997 12:06:08 -0500 From: Bobby Muse Subject: Re: KR: Oil or sump'n At 10:32 AM 9/3/97 -0400, you wrote: >Email (repy) to cary@storm.ca >Web page http://www.storm.ca/~cary/ >KR2 area http://www.storm.ca/~cary/kr2.shtml > >Does anyone know anything about something called "--- Miracle Oil". Not >sure the exact name, but someone told me that it helps relieve sticking >piston rings. Any takers? > >- Cary - > I think what you are talking about is "Marvel Mystery Oil". You can put it your oil and in your fuel. I lot of KRers do just that. Bobby Muse(N122B) bmuse@mindspring.com Wimberly, TX ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Sep 1997 13:01:24 -0500 From: kr2builder@juno.com (Richard E Pitman) Subject: Re: KR: Ricky Pitman Ricky Pitman KR2 Builder Marion, Arkansas E-Mail to: KR2Builder@juno.com Web Page: http://pw2.netcom.com/~rnricky/Ricky/Default.htm On Wed, 03 Sep 1997 11:44:58 -0500 Bobby Muse writes: >At 06:51 PM 9/2/97 -0600, you wrote: >>Richard E Pitman wrote: >>> >>> Hello All, >>>snip >>> It is with great sadness that I write this letter. I had a heart >attack at work last Wednesday night and double bypass surgery. I was >already diagnosed as a type 2 diabetic and was fighting that to >reinstate my >medical. I am afraid that this has finished it for good. Any how, I >am >home recovering. I have almost everything needed to build and or >complete a >KR2/KR2s. All will be sold. Maybe I will be able to get to the next >gathering. I may not be a builder anymore, but I will still feel like >part >of the family. >>> >>> Ricky Pitman >>> KR2 Builder > >>snip >> >>> >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >>Hello Ricky, >>It is with sadness that I read about your unfortunate heart attack, >but >>your still with us!!!! I know how you feel - no I don't know how you >feel, >but I do know how you feel about not getting your own pride and joy >into the >air. Because, I am grounded too because of this stupid >CFS, I think your recovery will be a lot faster than mine because I am >>still suffering. I am sure you will remain part of the KR family for >as >long as you want to. >>Take Care and God Bless! >>-- >>Adrian VE6AFY >> > > >Hey Guys, > I can only try to understand how you feel about a temporary >setback >such as yours. Ricky, after your recovery, you'll be BETTER than >ever. Go >for full recovery! We will miss you at this gathering, but we want >see you >at the next KR Gathering, right? You know, once you're a member of >this >family, you're always a member. > I don't know if you know or not but my Dad had triple bypass >surgery >in 1981, completed his KR2 in 1984, just won first place in the >Sun-N-Fun >100 race this pass spring and will be flying N28RM to this years KR >Gathering. He just turned 76 years old. > You can do it! Keep us up date on the KRnet on how you are >doing >and we'll see you next year? > > > > Bobby Muse(N122B) > bmuse@mindspring.com > Wimberly, TX > > > > Ijust wanted to say THANKS to all who have written, both here on the net and E-mailed directly. I am not giving up. This is only a setback. However, the parts and stuff are still for sale. I can always start over again later. As for the ones out there who say they feel like vultures, Hey IT JUST AIN't SO. I need to sell some some stuff and you can get a pretty good deal on it. I believe most of it may already be sold. When I feel better in a few days I will post a list of what is left on here. Mean while I can help some of you move ahead with your projects at a reduced price. Besides I may be able to claim I have 10 or SO KRs in the air. Thanks again Ricky Pitman Marion, Arkansas ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Sep 1997 14:17:04 -0400 (EDT) From: BSHADR@aol.com Subject: Re: KR: Oil or sump'n In a message dated 97-09-03 10:46:47 EDT, you write: << Does anyone know anything about something called "--- Miracle Oil". Not sure the exact name, but someone told me that it helps relieve sticking piston rings. Any takers? >> Could you be talking about "Marvel Mystery Oil"? At the 97 Gathering many of the VW KRs seemed to be enjoying this particular libation. It is suppose to help with the sticking valve problem caused by lead in the fuel (I think). Would rings use the same medicine? Bobby Muse would know more on this subject...Tell 'em Bobby. Randy Stein BSHADR@aol.com Soviet Monica, CA ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Sep 1997 16:52:18 -0400 (EDT) From: BSHADR@aol.com Subject: Re: KR: Tires In a message dated 97-09-03 15:25:53 EDT, you write: << I need to find a source(quickly) for replacement tires for my KR. size= 11x4.00-5 LAMB You help will be apprenciated. Thanks Bobby Muse(N122B) >> Bobby: I saw post post recently for Lamb replacements. They are called Cheng Shin. I remember using them years ago on a boat trailer and also a wheelbarrow (when they were no longer any good for the trailer. They worked good. AS&S sells them (although I hear tell they are listed as Lamb - and then send Cheng Shin instead), but even better, try: GREEN BALL COMAPANY in California (213) 636-2364 Ask for Craig and tell him you want the same tires (and good deal - much better than AS&sS) that some buddies of your's got. Tell him Barry Weber & Alan Thayer sent you. They are a couple quickie builders and flyers. Cheng Shin bought the mold Micheal Lamb was using and now is serving that market. 11X4.00-5 8 ply with Tube was around $15. At the time AS&S was selling them for about $28 plus $8 for the tube. Good luck. If you have problems, Email me or Mike Mims direct. Since we are in Southern Cal, we may be able to iron out problems faster for ya. Randy Stein BSHADR@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Sep 1997 16:07:52 -0500 From: bwatkins@ldd.net (BRUCE WATKINS) Subject: Re: KR: Real video and Kitplane I saw the video also. The plane was a KR2...all I know about the crash was that it happened about 2 years ago, the pilot was unhurt and continues to fly. Contaminated fuel supply was the cause of the accident. Sorry I was unable to record and Snap pictures for krnet...maybe someone else did. Bruce Watkins Cape Girardeau, Mo ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Sep 1997 19:02:17 -0500 From: John Roffey Subject: Re: KR: Oil or sump'n Patrick Flowers wrote: > > Cary Honeywell wrote: > > > > Does anyone know anything about something called "--- Miracle Oil". Not > > sure the exact name, but someone told me that it helps relieve sticking > > piston rings. Any takers? > > Marvel Mystery Oil - available at your local WalMart. I've heard auto > and airplane mechanics speak of it in almost mystical tones :o) I've > used it in auto engines that have been sitting for a long time and > haven't had any problems. Never used it in an airplane engine, but I've > heard it's good for old low compression engines running auto fuel. > Mixed with the fuel, it replaces the lubricating properties of > tetraethyl lead. > > Now you know all I know :o), > Patrick > -- > Patrick Flowers Mailto:patri63@ibm.net We use Marvel Mystery Oil in the loosening of bolts that have been subjected to high heat in the power plant. It works very well as a penitrant. I did witness an A&P turn his back after suggesting to the owner of an Aztec with a sticking exhaust valve, that it might un-stick the valve. It did and the A&P said "you didn't hear it here". ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Sep 1997 19:19:31 -0500 From: John Roffey Subject: Re: KR: Ricky Pitman Richard E Pitman wrote: > > Ricky Pitman > KR2 Builder > Marion, Arkansas > E-Mail to: KR2Builder@juno.com > Web Page: http://pw2.netcom.com/~rnricky/Ricky/Default.htm > > On Wed, 03 Sep 1997 11:44:58 -0500 Bobby Muse > writes: > >At 06:51 PM 9/2/97 -0600, you wrote: > >>Richard E Pitman wrote: > >>> > >>> Hello All, > >>>snip > >>> It is with great sadness that I write this letter. I had a heart > >attack at work last Wednesday night and double bypass surgery. I was > >already diagnosed as a type 2 diabetic and was fighting that to > >reinstate my > >medical. I am afraid that this has finished it for good. Any how, I > >am > >home recovering. I have almost everything needed to build and or > >complete a > >KR2/KR2s. All will be sold. Maybe I will be able to get to the next > >gathering. I may not be a builder anymore, but I will still feel like > >part > >of the family. > >>> > >>> Ricky Pitman > >>> KR2 Builder > > > >>snip > >> > >>> >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > >>Hello Ricky, > >>It is with sadness that I read about your unfortunate heart attack, > >but > >>your still with us!!!! I know how you feel - no I don't know how you > >feel, > >but I do know how you feel about not getting your own pride and joy > >into the > >air. Because, I am grounded too because of this stupid > >CFS, I think your recovery will be a lot faster than mine because I am > >>still suffering. I am sure you will remain part of the KR family for > >as > >long as you want to. > >>Take Care and God Bless! > >>-- > >>Adrian VE6AFY > >> > > > > > >Hey Guys, > > I can only try to understand how you feel about a temporary > >setback > >such as yours. Ricky, after your recovery, you'll be BETTER than > >ever. Go > >for full recovery! We will miss you at this gathering, but we want > >see you > >at the next KR Gathering, right? You know, once you're a member of > >this > >family, you're always a member. > > I don't know if you know or not but my Dad had triple bypass > >surgery > >in 1981, completed his KR2 in 1984, just won first place in the > >Sun-N-Fun > >100 race this pass spring and will be flying N28RM to this years KR > >Gathering. He just turned 76 years old. > > You can do it! Keep us up date on the KRnet on how you are > >doing > >and we'll see you next year? > > > > > > > > Bobby Muse(N122B) > > bmuse@mindspring.com > > Wimberly, TX > > > > > > > > > Ijust wanted to say THANKS to all who have written, both here on the net > and E-mailed directly. I am not giving up. This is only a setback. > However, the parts and stuff are still for sale. I can always start over > again later. As for the ones out there who say they feel like vultures, > Hey IT JUST AIN't SO. I need to sell some some stuff and you can get a > pretty good deal on it. I believe most of it may already be sold. When > I feel better in a few days I will post a list of what is left on here. > Mean while I can help some of you move ahead with your projects at a > reduced price. Besides I may be able to claim I have 10 or SO KRs in the > air. > > Thanks again > > Ricky Pitman > Marion, Arkansas Ricky,I'm sorry to hear of your heart problem but I'm more sorry to hear that you want to sell your project. One person has said it well when he stated that there may be a case of post-operative depression setting in. I pesonally know of five local pilots who have had by-pass surgery and not one of them talks of not flying again. In a recent issue of AOPA Pilot, this was a subject and therein was stated that there are airline pilots flying who have had by-pass surgery. The FAA will certainly want both you and your AME to jump thru hoops, but it is possible to get another medical. Good luck in your recovery. John Roffey...jeroffey@tir.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Sep 1997 18:48:29 -0600 From: jscott.pilot@juno.com (Jeffrey E Scott) Subject: Re: KR: Oil or sump'n On Wed, 3 Sep 1997 10:32:26 -0400 "Cary Honeywell" writes: >Email (repy) to cary@storm.ca >Web page http://www.storm.ca/~cary/ >KR2 area http://www.storm.ca/~cary/kr2.shtml > >Does anyone know anything about something called "--- Miracle Oil". Not >sure the exact name, but someone told me that it helps relieve sticking >piston rings. Any takers? > >- Cary - > > Marvel's mystery oil. It's essentially a thin very high detergent oil that you can use as an additive to either the oil or fuel. I have successfully fixed sticky valves in a Franklin engine in about 1/2 hour using it as an oil additive. It does help soften up deposits, but it isn't a cure all for everything. - ------- Jeff Scott - Los Alamos, NM jscott.pilot@juno.com See N1213W construction and first flight at http://fly.hiwaay.net~langford/kjefs.html & http: //www.thuntek.net/~jeb/krpage.htm ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Sep 1997 18:28:06 -0600 From: jscott.pilot@juno.com (Jeffrey E Scott) Subject: Re: KR: Final Weight and Balance Good job Tom!!! Sounds like good decisions all around. I applaud your diligence and will be looking forward to your first flight and flight test reports. Keep an open mind during the inspection. Some of those guys know what they're talking about and are more than happy to help you resolve any problems. Jeff - ------- Jeff Scott - Los Alamos, NM jscott.pilot@juno.com See N1213W construction and first flight at http://fly.hiwaay.net~langford/kjefs.html & http: //www.thuntek.net/~jeb/krpage.htm On Wed, 03 Sep 1997 05:49:51 -0700 Tom Crawford writes: >Hi all: > >I got nervous yesterday and took the plane down to the local FBO- bribed >the head A&P and used his "certified" scales. I had been using 3 >bathroom scales that I bought at Wally Mart. Guess what- there was a 3 >lb. difference. Hardly worth the effort, but I am sleeping better. > >With the ELT mounted as far back as I can reach, and a little trimming >here and there, the final weight is 638'. >The C of G with me sitting in it with full fuel is right on the foreward >line. >After much thought and review, I decided to use 7.6 to 14" behind the >inboard wing leading edge. >There is an interesting article about this sort of thing in an old >newsletter- October, 1990. Written by George Leskien. It is really worth >tracking down and reading. > >Well, I have an appointment with the FAA inspector this weekend. >I will keep you posted. > >Tom Crawford >tomc@afn.org >Gainesville, FL > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Sep 1997 18:58:54 -0600 From: jscott.pilot@juno.com (Jeffrey E Scott) Subject: Re: KR: Ricky Pitman >> From: Richard E Pitman >> Thirty-seven (that's right 37) years old and a heart attack and double >> bypass surgery. I was already diagnosed as a type 2 diabetic and was >> fighting that to reinstate my medical. I am afraid that this has >> finished it for good. Any how, I am home recovering. I have almost >> everything needed to build and or complete a KR2/KR2s. All will be sold. >> I had just changed jobs and have no sick days, so no check for at least >> six-weeks. > >>I may not be a builder anymore, but I will still feel like >> part of the family. >> > >You will always be a builder. For what it is worth, if you can keep going >on the KR, do it. It is good for the soul. Keeps your mind focused and >helps you cope with other things. With today's medicine, your medical may >not be gone for good. Take some time before you commit to anything. There >is often a stage after major surgery or any life threatening event, where >depression sets in. That is not the time to make decisions that you may >regret later. If there is any way you can keep on with the project, then do >it. Even if your medical is gone, you can, with the help of fellow >pilots/friends see your dream take flight. I lost my medical for a year and >almost sold my 172, but my fellow pilots insisted that if ever I wanted to >go flying, they would go with me. It may not be as much fun as the left >seat, but it does the trick. > >- Cary - > I have to also echo what Cary is saying. Just over a year ago I had a severe life threatening illness. Some on the net may remember that my project was listed on Mark Langford's web page as "possibly for sale soon". I made myself wait several months before making a final decision. By then I was feeling well enough to start working on the project again and am now enjoying flying it. Much like your problems with diabetes, my illness will be with me as long as I last, so don't give up hope. If it's affordable to wait, I would urge you to do so. In the mean time, work on the recovery and take good care of yourself. - ------- Jeff Scott - Los Alamos, NM jscott.pilot@juno.com See N1213W construction and first flight at http://fly.hiwaay.net~langford/kjefs.html & http: //www.thuntek.net/~jeb/krpage.htm ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Sep 1997 20:32:13 -0500 From: Kerry Miller Subject: KR: More Marvel Mystery Oil On top of repairing sticky valves (never tried it, YMMV), it is great stuff to lube pneumatic tools with! Kerry Kerry Miller, WD5ABC "They that give up essential liberty 8991 FM 35 to obtain a little temporary safety Royse City, TX 75189-4849 deserve neither liberty nor safety." www.flash.net/~kmiller Benjamin Franklin, 1759 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Sep 1997 19:46:14 -0700 From: Tom Brown Subject: Re: KR: Kitplanes Micheal Mims wrote: > > At 10:45 PM 9/2/97 -0500, you wrote: > >Also, nice picture of a KR-2S in latest issue of Kitplanes. Check it out. > > I will second that Mike. They seem to have a special interest in Rotorcraft this year. It seems every issue is devoted to rotorcraft. Tom Brown tbrown@pcpros.net ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Sep 1997 22:25:14 -0400 From: "Cary Honeywell" Subject: KR: Re: Re: FLOX to fill excess clearance - ---------- > From: MARVIN MCCOY > > Micheal Mims wrote: > > > > I have to > > admit my first two or three holes were less than what I wanted and I had to > > use flox to fill the holes and then insert the bolts. > > > > For what it is worth: I think the cotton flox will work fine. > However when I used to build boats we used colodial silica mixed with > epoxy to mount the bolts on deck for the winch and pad. We would drill > a hole about twice the size of the bolt and fill it with epoxy/siliica > mix and set the bolt in the filled hole. There is a lot of pressure on > a large winch on a sailboat deck. I could pound the silica/epoxy mix > with a hammer and it was strong as steel. This was a method that was > tested and promoted by the Gougeon brothers & West system. The cotton > flox may not be quite as hard as the silica but it should be every bit > as tough. > I use the 404. It is REALLY strong. The 407 is goot for micro-slurry or dry-micro. The 410 is a nice strong base filler which adheres well, but has no structual properties at all. Nice to sand. Sanding the 404 is a pain. - - Cary - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Sep 1997 21:48:31 -0500 From: Jim Faughn Subject: KR: Marvel Mystery Oil Patrick Flowers wrote: > > Cary Honeywell wrote: > > > > Does anyone know anything about something called "--- Miracle Oil". Not > > sure the exact name, but someone told me that it helps relieve sticking > > piston rings. Any takers? > > Marvel Mystery Oil - available at your local WalMart. I've heard auto > and airplane mechanics speak of it in almost mystical tones :o) I've > used it in auto engines that have been sitting for a long time and > haven't had any problems. Never used it in an airplane engine, but I've > heard it's good for old low compression engines running auto fuel. > Mixed with the fuel, it replaces the lubricating properties of > tetraethyl lead. > I use it in my fuel only for a different reason than I have heard so far. I have found that my valve seats will rust between flights and if I use the oil in my fuel along with plugging the exhaust pipe with an oily rag then I don't have the problem any more. I can tell the whole story at the Gathering but beleive me, it works and I haven't done a valve job since I started doing this procedure. I use about 1/2 the recommended amount in my fuel. - -- Jim Faughn N8931JF St. Louis, MO (314) 652-7659 or (573) 465-8039 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Sep 1997 21:29:59 From: Ron Lee Subject: Re: KR: Marvel Mystery Oil >I use it in my fuel only for a different reason than I have heard so >far. I have found that my valve seats will rust between flights and if I >use the oil in my fuel along with plugging the exhaust pipe with an oily >rag then I don't have the problem any more. I can tell the whole story >at the Gathering but beleive me, it works and I haven't done a valve job >since I started doing this procedure. I use about 1/2 the recommended >amount in my fuel. >-- >Jim Faughn N8931JF >St. Louis, MO >(314) 652-7659 or (573) 465-8039 > What kind of engine...as if it matters. Ron ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Sep 1997 20:51:21 -0700 From: "John Bouyea" Subject: Re: KR: Ricky Pitman Ricky, Stay with it as long as you can. I personally have received a greater personal reward in building my KR lately than in flying my Cardinal. I hope you could get your doctor to "prescribe" building as a form of therapy... My next door neighbor had quad-bypass last November '96. He got his medical reinstated two weeks ago. IT CAN BE DONE! Both he AND his wife give great credit to his continuing to build on his 2/3 scale P-51 replica he hopes to fly next summer. He says it gives him "focus" to see where he wants to be in the short and long-term future. Good luck on your recovery bou KR2S - cutting belly members for the fuselage John/Johnna Bouyea johnbouyea@worldnet.att.net > > > Ijust wanted to say THANKS to all who have written, both here on the net > and E-mailed directly. I am not giving up. This is only a setback. > However, the parts and stuff are still for sale. I can always start over > again later. As for the ones out there who say they feel like vultures, > Hey IT JUST AIN't SO. I need to sell some some stuff and you can get a > pretty good deal on it. I believe most of it may already be sold. When > I feel better in a few days I will post a list of what is left on here. > Mean while I can help some of you move ahead with your projects at a > reduced price. Besides I may be able to claim I have 10 or SO KRs in the > air. > > Thanks again > > Ricky Pitman > Marion, Arkansas ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Sep 1997 21:24:11 -0700 From: Micheal Mims Subject: KR: All stub fittings DONE! Well all my fittings on my stub wings are finished and mounted along with all the aileron brackets and belcranks! Woo Hoo!. Cable rigging soon to follow,... pictures tomorrow at 11:00pm! I was sitting pondering tonight's progress and a question arose. What do you use for control stops in the ailerons? I don't remember seeing anything in the plans (there at the garage right now) and a simple solution doesn't come to mind. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Micheal Mims Just Plane Nutts in Irvine Ca. mailto:mimsmand@ix.netcom.com http://www.netcom.com/~mimsmand \ / _\/\/_ _____/_//\\_\_____ F-117 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Sep 1997 01:35:30 -0400 (EDT) From: MikeTnyc@aol.com Subject: KR: Re: Heat Crayons >Anyway, pick your favorite color (for the application) and you got a no fuss >way to apply witness marks. Put 'em so you can easily see them on >inspections and you be styl'ing... > >I suppose you could go to your welding supply and by various color heat >crayons and mark you exhaust pipes too. Then you could have your copilot >crawl out and read your "manual EGT system indicator" for ya....nah, bad idea I had no idea such a thing as heat crayons existed, but the value of the idea is obvious. What temperatures do they cover anddo they do anything permanent when they melt -- i.e., can you come back after everything is cool and tell where they melted and where they didn't? Presumably something for welders would be far too hot, but would lower ranges of these things be available for checking, eg., cylinder head temperatures? Mike Taglieri ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Sep 1997 23:18:05 -0700 From: Robert Covington Subject: Re: KR: Kitplanes >Micheal Mims wrote: >> >> At 10:45 PM 9/2/97 -0500, you wrote: >> >Also, nice picture of a KR-2S in latest issue of Kitplanes. Check it out. >> > > >I will second that Mike. They seem to have a special interest in >Rotorcraft this year. It seems every issue is devoted to rotorcraft. > >Tom Brown >tbrown@pcpros.net The guy with the KR-2S stated that it flew hands off on the first flight, I think that is significant. ;) Wonder if he built it as to plans or modified it. Hope it is the former! Robert Covington ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Sep 1997 06:51:29 -0500 From: Jim Faughn Subject: Re: KR: Marvel Mystery Oil Ron Lee wrote: > > >I use it in my fuel only for a different reason than I have heard so > >far. I have found that my valve seats will rust between flights and if I > >use the oil in my fuel along with plugging the exhaust pipe with an oily > >rag then I don't have the problem any more. I can tell the whole story > >at the Gathering but beleive me, it works and I haven't done a valve job > >since I started doing this procedure. I use about 1/2 the recommended > >amount in my fuel. > >-- > >Jim Faughn N8931JF > >St. Louis, MO > >(314) 652-7659 or (573) 465-8039 > > > > What kind of engine...as if it matters. > > Ron 2180 VW, It has steel seats. - -- Jim Faughn N8931JF St. Louis, MO (314) 652-7659 or (573) 465-8039 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Sep 1997 06:52:29 -0500 From: ejanssen@chipsnet.com (Ed Janssen) Subject: KR: Fuel additive As long as we are on the subject of additives, wonder if anyone has had experience or knowledge about the additive which is supposed to be a scavenger for lead - for those of us who will be burning 100LL. Can't remember the name of the product, of course, but someone will know. Ed Janssen ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Sep 1997 08:29:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Willard561@aol.com Subject: Re: KR: Re: Heat Crayons I have used lower temp heat crayons, I don't have an idea as to who sells them on trade name is tempr-sticks I believe. I would suggest going to your library and looking in the good old Thomas Guides. Bill Higdon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Sep 1997 06:29:20 From: Ron Lee Subject: Re: KR: Marvel Mystery Oil/Linkite > >> >I use it in my fuel only for a different reason than I have heard so >> >far. I have found that my valve seats will rust between flights and if I >> >use the oil in my fuel along with plugging the exhaust pipe with an oily >> >rag then I don't have the problem any more. I can tell the whole story >> >at the Gathering but beleive me, it works and I haven't done a valve job >> >since I started doing this procedure. I use about 1/2 the recommended >> >amount in my fuel. >> >-- >> >Jim Faughn N8931JF >> >St. Louis, MO >> >(314) 652-7659 or (573) 465-8039 I was told to add Linkite (similar to AvBlend) in every oil change. Do these two products complement each other? Is it safe to use Linkite in the oil and and a smidge of the mystery oil to the fuel? Ron ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Sep 1997 06:31:20 From: Ron Lee Subject: Re: KR: Fuel additive At 06:52 97/9/04 -0500, you wrote: >As long as we are on the subject of additives, wonder if anyone has had >experience or knowledge about the additive which is supposed to be a >scavenger for lead - for those of us who will be burning 100LL. Can't >remember the name of the product, of course, but someone will know. > >Ed Janssen > > TCP?????? Ron Lee ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Sep 1997 08:37:41 -0700 From: Donald Reid Subject: Re: KR: Oil or sump'n Patrick Flowers wrote: > > Cary Honeywell wrote: > > > > Does anyone know anything about something called "--- Miracle Oil". Not > > sure the exact name, but someone told me that it helps relieve sticking > > piston rings. Any takers? > > Marvel Mystery Oil - available at your local WalMart. I've heard auto > and airplane mechanics speak of it in almost mystical tones :o) I've > used it in auto engines that have been sitting for a long time It is Marvel, it does work really well, and it is not "approved" for certified A/C even though a lot of A&P's use it. An approved and similar product is Lenckite Avblend. AS&S has Lenckite for $21.95 per quart and Marvel Mystery Oil for $5.95. Go figure! - -- Don Reid donreid@erols.com ------------------------------ End of krnet-l-digest V1 #88 ****************************