From: Majordomo@teleport.com[SMTP:Majordomo@teleport.com] Sent: Sunday, December 07, 1997 12:37 PM To: john bouyea Subject: Majordomo file: list 'krnet-l' file 'v01.n109' -- From: owner-krnet-l-digest@lists.teleport.com (krnet-l-digest) To: krnet-l-digest@lists.teleport.com Subject: krnet-l-digest V1 #109 Reply-To: krnet-l-digest Sender: owner-krnet-l-digest@lists.teleport.com Errors-To: owner-krnet-l-digest@lists.teleport.com Precedence: bulk krnet-l-digest Wednesday, October 1 1997 Volume 01 : Number 109 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 01 Oct 1997 01:40:19 GMT From: bbland@busprod.com (Brian Bland) Subject: KR: Adrian Carter's web site Adrian, I have not been able to access your web site for a while now. Has anyone else been able to get to it? Brian J. Bland Claremore, OK Building Stretched, Widened KR-2S bbland@busprod.com http://www.busprod.com/bbland/kr2s.htm ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 18:28:04 -0700 From: Micheal Mims Subject: Re: KR: Revmaster e-mail address At 07:40 PM 9/30/97 -0500, you wrote: >Does anyone have the e-mail address/web site for Revmaster. I've not had >any luck with my searches. > >Thanks much. > >Ed Janssen > > I don't think they have email. I built a site about a year ago that contains pictures and information about their products. http://pw2.netcom.com/~mimsmand/rev.html I guess you have to use the old telephone! 619.244.3074 If you call them make sure you tell them you got the number from the web page! I am trying to convince them they need one! :o) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Micheal Mims Just Plane Nutts in Irvine Ca. mailto:mimsmand@ix.netcom.com http://www.netcom.com/~mimsmand \ / \ _\/\/_ / __/_//\\_\_____ F-117 Having structural failure! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Oct 1997 01:45:49 GMT From: bbland@busprod.com (Brian Bland) Subject: KR: Project update I finnally finished glueing up my fuselage sides (not the plywood). I will now be able to start frameing up the fuseage and finally see some real progress. I have decided to frame it up before I put the plywood on and to make the sides straight up and down. I plan to start tomorrow night and I will start taking more pictures so I can post them on my webpage. =20 Brian J. Bland Claremore, OK Building Stretched, Widened KR-2S bbland@busprod.com http://www.busprod.com/bbland/kr2s.htm ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 21:20:28 -0500 From: brian whatcott Subject: Re: KR: Member List At 17:47 9/30/97 -0700, Ted Jones wrote: >> adoherty@mbnet.mb.ca >> a.pecorara@telecomitalia.it >> barwick@rsbs-central.anu.edu.au >> bkno@algonet.se >> cartera@cuug.ab.ca >> cary@storm.ca >> crudenit@iinet.net.au >> frouwsl@eskom.co.za >> henning@cs.uregina.ca >> jfdewet@intekom.co.za >> lau@mda.ca >> lpalani@pop.jaring.my >> mend.pereira@mail.telepac.pt >> paf1@pixie.co.za >> pleonard@gil.com.au >> t48715@twobit.dehavilland.ca >> unal.turkal@fornet.net.tr >Ted Jones >(currently in Center Harbor, New Hampshire instead of Beaufort, North >Carolina ) And there you were, in my imagination, braving the howling winds at Beaufort... ... then I picked out the obviously non-US emails. Those are the folks that (I imagine) could use every extra little help that's available - where there may be NO aero supply joints at all, on the home front. Let's see: a good sprinkling of 6 in Canada, 3 in Ossieland 3 in Zuid Afrika then mmm... my Malaysia?? pt Portugal se Sweden?? tr Turkey??? or Transylvania :-) and last but not least it = Italy. Could anybody out there use a little help with a US supplier, etc.? Regards brian whatcott Altus OK ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 22:04:23 -0500 From: Mark Pierce Subject: Re: KR: Revmaster e-mail address Ed, try: http://www.reallink.com/mount It shows an email address of mount@reallink.com Not sure if it's an official Revmaster page or something an interested patron or dealer put up describing Revmaster products. Mark Pierce MarkPi@oz.sunflower.org http://www.sunflower.org/~dstarks Ed Janssen wrote: > > Does anyone have the e-mail address/web site for Revmaster. I've not had > any luck with my searches. > > Thanks much. > > Ed Janssen ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 22:29:54 -0700 From: bmsi@ix.netcom.com Subject: Re: KR: Revmaster e-mail address This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - --------------498F5A5D23AA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ed Janssen wrote: > > Does anyone have the e-mail address/web site for Revmaster. I've not had > any luck with my searches. > > Thanks much. > > Ed Janssen Ed, Try http://pw2.netcom.com/~mimsmand/rev.html and thank Mike Mims. - --------------498F5A5D23AA Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii; name="rev.html" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="rev.html" Content-Base: "http://pw2.netcom.com/~mimsmand/rev.ht ml" Revmaster Aviation





Revmaster was founded in 1959 in order to produce high performance VW engines and components. In 1968 the first R2100 aviation version of the VW engine was produced. This model was well in advance of its time 28 years ago and is still being produced today.

Over the years a comprehensive product support program has been available for the thousands of engines that are in service throughout the world, such as the complete overhauls, spare parts and instructional services for the persons that wish to build their own engine. All of the R2100 parts and accessories are available today.




The Revflow carburetor is of a floatless, gravity feed, guillotine slide type with throttle and mixture control. It is the standard carburetor on all Revmaster powerplants. $210.00










Revmaster continues to lead the way by being one of the only firms to offer turbocharging as an option on their powerplants. The advantages of turbocharging has long been known in the aviation industry. $1650.00










Intake manifold with Revflow carburetor, filtered alternate airsource and ram air tube. $62.00 (alternate air source/air filter assy.)











CRANKSHAFTS

The standard VW crankshaft used in the 1600cc four cylinder opposed, air cooled engine is made of 1050 carbon steel forging. The bearing journals are induction hardened and the crankshaft is not counterweighted. It is a three main bearing unit with a small fourth main bearing dedicated to absorbing the belt tension loads from the cooling fan and alternator. The crankshaft has a 69mm stroke with 55mm nominal bearing journals. Revmaster, as well as other firms has used these crankshafts in smaller engines, however, they have their limits.

1. It is difficult to attach a crankshaft flange to the existing crankshaft design that would safely position the propeller disc forward of the cylinder heads to any great degree. This becomes more complicated when the propeller is oil controlled or manually controlled because of the increased weight and lack of galleries. The main reason for this dilemma is the absence of a fourth bearing to support all the propeller loads.

2. The stroke of the crankshaft limits the horsepower output, also the lack of counterweights causes greater crank deflection. The thrust absorption bearing is at the wrong end of the crankshaft for aircraft use.

3. Since we do not have control over the manufacturing process we can not guarantee the quality of the crankshaft, also there are after-market crankshafts that are not forged and could be mistaken for an original.

4. The automotive crankshaft does not have sufficient design and material strength for use in higher horsepower output aircraft engines.

Revmaster designed their own crankshaft assembly with the following features incorporated.

*78mm stroke with 55mm nitrited bearing journals and counterweights

*A large number 4 main bearing dedicated to accepting the dynamic loads of the propeller which has been moved well forward of the cylinder head group. The crankshaft flange is the number 4 main bearing when it is assembled to the crankshaft with a long 3 degree locking taper. This design does not require a woodruff key common in the automotive version to transmit engine torque to the propeller.

* The propeller flange has a number 1 - 127A which is common on Continental and Lycoming engines

* The large number 4 main bearing allows for oil control capability for the propeller. The propeller thrust is taken up at the number 3 main bearing which is next to the number 4 main at the propeller end of the engine. The bearing will accept tractor or pusher configurations.



Revmasters accessory case gives a location for mounting the engine as well as locations for mounting other accessories, starter, alternator, magnetos, etc. $450.00 (flywheel alternator & accessory housing)















Shown here are Revmasters lightweight flywheel with alternator rotor, the geared starter provides plenty of cranking power for starting those big bore engines. $375.00 (geared starter and ring assy.)











Here is the optional oil filter, oil-pump and mechanical engine driven fuel pump.












Again leading the way, Revmaster offers an engine driven vacuum pump for powering you flight instruments.














Engine Pricing Effective May 1, 1996

Revmaster R2100-D engine with E4340 forged crankshaft, dual ignition system, Rev-Flow carburetor with mixture control, including alternator, geared starter and ring gear, oil cooler, oil filter system, oil sump side drain assembly, alternate air source/air filter assembly, and 75 hp cylinder heads........................$5,185.00

Prices subject to change without notice.

Call or mail us for your complete information packet today!





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Back to Micheal's KR homepage - --------------498F5A5D23AA-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 21:24:37 -0600 From: "Jeb" Subject: KR: Project update Well after the Perry motivational kick in the pants (and receiving my canopy frame day before I went) I've made some progress... I cut 1/4" ply arch for rear of canopy, sat in it and checkedd headroom, scratched my head for a day about the front arch support (sounds like shoes :^) ) the problem is that the dragonfly canopy frame break to front deck isn't perpendicular like the RR one, I ended up duct taping it in position and cutting a cardboard one to lay under it at it's angle, then used it to make a 1/4 ply one. I built a jig to hold it at that angle and clamped it to the top longerons. Then used 5 min epoxy to build a foam arch on cockpit side of firewall, and planked it with one inch foam (last nite) tonite I made me a sanding board and went after it. I got it nice and using liberal amounts of duct tape around the fuselage sides and top of firewall I went ahead and layed up two layers of RR KR glass with Aeropoxy I covered the whole thing with heavy plastic in lieu of peel ply to make it smooth, Tomorrow I'll lay the canopy frame on it and trace the front edge then duct tape that area and lay up two more sheets of glass. **hope I duct taped it good or I'll be in trouble.. John jeb@thuntek.net www.thuntek.net/~jeb/krpage.htm ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 20:23:24 -0700 From: Micheal Mims Subject: Re: KR: Adrian Carter's web site At 01:40 AM 10/1/97 GMT, you wrote: >Adrian, > > I have not been able to access your web site for a while now. >Has anyone else been able to get to it? > > > Just went there using: http://www.cuug.ab.ca:8001/~cartera/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Micheal Mims Just Plane Nutts in Irvine Ca. mailto:mimsmand@ix.netcom.com http://www.netcom.com/~mimsmand \ / \ _\/\/_ / __/_//\\_\_____ F-117 Having structural failure! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 20:26:38 -0700 From: Micheal Mims Subject: Re: KR: Revmaster e-mail address At 10:04 PM 9/30/97 -0500, you wrote: >Ed, try: > >http://www.reallink.com/mount > Gee that sure looks familiar!! Darn hackers!! :o) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Micheal Mims Just Plane Nutts in Irvine Ca. mailto:mimsmand@ix.netcom.com http://www.netcom.com/~mimsmand \ / \ _\/\/_ / __/_//\\_\_____ F-117 Having structural failure! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Oct 1997 03:42:43 GMT From: bbland@busprod.com (Brian Bland) Subject: Re: KR: Adrian Carter's web site On Tue, 30 Sep 1997 20:23:24 -0700, you wrote: >At 01:40 AM 10/1/97 GMT, you wrote: >>Adrian, >> >> I have not been able to access your web site for a while now. >>Has anyone else been able to get to it? >> >> >> > >Just went there using: > >http://www.cuug.ab.ca:8001/~cartera/ > >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >Micheal Mims >Just Plane Nutts in Irvine Ca. >mailto:mimsmand@ix.netcom.com >http://www.netcom.com/~mimsmand > > \ / > \ _\/\/_ > / __/_//\\_\_____ > > F-117 >Having structural failure! > I just tried it again and all I got was: Netscape unable to locate server Server does not have a DNS entry Brian J. Bland Claremore, OK Building Stretched, Widened KR-2S bbland@busprod.com http://www.busprod.com/bbland/kr2s.htm ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 20:49:26 -0700 From: Robert Covington Subject: Re: KR: Here goes >smithr wrote: >> The best tool is a piece of string, stretched tight. It is the only >> thing that can be trusted as straight. >> >> Bob Smith > >Actually, it is only straight in the horizontal direction. In a gravity >field, it will form a shape called a catenary. :) >-- >Don Reid >donreid@erols.com Yes, but by using quarks,then neutrino inducted top quarks, and then left turn quarks without spin, or even topspin, this effect can be nullified, nay, even turned off. This is how the KR gets it high speeds anyway. I just use a flat table actually. ;) Anyway on KRnet, any type of catenary quickly becomes just a category anyhow, yet again nullifying said effect. Anybody believe all this? Robert Covington Catenary:After Effect of a Feline Ingestion of a Canary. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 22:04:24 -0600 From: "Jeb" Subject: Re: KR: Here goes Whoooiiieeeee! boy - howdy, that there is the real thang ---- From: Robert Covington To: krnet-l@teleport.com Date: Tuesday, September 30, 1997 9:50 PM Subject: Re: KR: Here goes >>smithr wrote: >>> The best tool is a piece of string, stretched tight. It is the only >>> thing that can be trusted as straight. >>> >>> Bob Smith >> >>Actually, it is only straight in the horizontal direction. In a gravity >>field, it will form a shape called a catenary. :) >>-- >>Don Reid >>donreid@erols.com > >Yes, but by using quarks,then neutrino inducted top quarks, and then left >turn quarks without spin, or even topspin, this effect can be nullified, >nay, even turned off. This is how the KR gets it high speeds anyway. > >I just use a flat table actually. ;) > >Anyway on KRnet, any type of catenary quickly becomes just a category >anyhow, yet again nullifying said effect. Anybody believe all this? > >Robert Covington > >Catenary:After Effect of a Feline Ingestion of a Canary. > > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 21:10:53 -0700 From: Robert Covington Subject: Re: KR: Here goes again. >>smithr wrote: >>> The best tool is a piece of string, stretched tight. It is the only >>> thing that can be trusted as straight. >>> >>> Bob Smith >> >>Actually, it is only straight in the horizontal direction. In a gravity >>field, it will form a shape called a catenary. :) >>-- >>Don Reid >>donreid@erols.com > >Yes, but by using quarks,then neutrino inducted top quarks, and then left >turn quarks without spin, or even topspin, this effect can be nullified, >nay, even turned off. This is how the KR gets it high speeds anyway. > >I just use a flat table actually. ;) > >Anyway on KRnet, any type of catenary quickly becomes just a category >anyhow, yet again nullifying said effect. Anybody believe all this? > >Robert Covington > >Catenary:After Effect of a Feline Ingestion of a Canary. I forgot to mention that particle board is more helpful in this respect than plywood. But plywood won't expand with the weather. However plywood is a known catenary surfactant and this can make you paint your KR yellow, or worse, make someone else call you yellow if you don't. All this because of a string catenary. Use a laser instead. Apologies in advance. ;) Robert Covington ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 21:04:25 -0700 From: Micheal Mims Subject: Re: KR: VW engines At 06:12 PM 9/30/97 -0700, you wrote: >Michael > >I was wondering about what do you look for and what type of VW engines >do a person look for? I know you want to get an engine that hasn't had >a "bore sight?" done yet to it. I have notice a little more ads for >people trying to sell VW parts etc in a free want adds up here. > >John F. "on the hunt for parts or what ever catches my eye" Esch >Salem, OR > I think if I was going to build up a aircooled VW I would build it from all new parts. New cases are only $250 or so and IF you find a rebuildable one you will spend that much line boring, thrust cutting, and re-decking the old case. The new cases from Brazil or Mexico have more aluminum in the alloy so they are better cases anyway. If you can find a late model (1974 or newer) bug case with dual oil reliefs then that would be your best bet. I have an old (1974) type 1 case that I am using for my mockup but will more than likely build my engine from all new parts, yes even the heads will be new american made (cast in the US) heads from MOFOCO or SuperFlow. If you do build up an engine from rebuilt parts,... do yourself a favor and get new heads. Head problems are huge with the aircooled VW so might as well start off with something new and in good shape! The after market heads that are cast in the US are beefier so when you bore them out for larger cylinders you still have plenty of meat left. Kinda handy for keeping the valve seats from falling out! :o) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Micheal Mims Just Plane Nutts in Irvine Ca. mailto:mimsmand@ix.netcom.com http://www.netcom.com/~mimsmand \ / \ _\/\/_ / __/_//\\_\_____ F-117 Having structural failure! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 21:12:36 -0700 From: Micheal Mims Subject: Re: KR: VW engines At 09:04 PM 9/30/97 -0700, you wrote: The new cases from Brazil or Mexico have more aluminum in the alloy >so they are better cases anyway. > This is what I have been told anyway, maybe Steve can correct this statement if its wrong. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Micheal Mims Just Plane Nutts in Irvine Ca. mailto:mimsmand@ix.netcom.com http://www.netcom.com/~mimsmand \ / \ _\/\/_ / __/_//\\_\_____ F-117 Having structural failure! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 21:53:41 -0700 From: "John F. Esch" Subject: Re: KR: VW engines Micheal Mims wrote: > At 06:12 PM 9/30/97 -0700, you wrote: > >Michael > > > >I was wondering about what do you look for and what type of VW > engines > >do a person look for? I know you want to get an engine that hasn't > had > >a "bore sight?" done yet to it. I have notice a little more ads for > >people trying to sell VW parts etc in a free want adds up here. > > > >John F. "on the hunt for parts or what ever catches my eye" Esch > >Salem, OR > > > > I think if I was going to build up a aircooled VW I would build it > from all > new parts. New cases are only $250 or so and IF you find a > rebuildable one > you will spend that much line boring, thrust cutting, and re-decking > the old > case. The new cases from Brazil or Mexico have more aluminum in the > alloy > so they are better cases anyway. > > If you can find a late model (1974 or newer) bug case with dual oil > reliefs > then that would be your best bet. I have an old (1974) type 1 case > that I > am using for my mockup but will more than likely build my engine from > all > new parts, yes even the heads will be new american made (cast in the > US) > heads from MOFOCO or SuperFlow. If you do build up an engine from > rebuilt > parts,... do yourself a favor and get new heads. > > Head problems are huge with the aircooled VW so might as well start > off > with something new and in good shape! The after market heads that are > cast > in the US are beefier so when you bore them out for larger cylinders > you > still have plenty of meat left. Kinda handy for keeping the valve > seats > from falling out! :o) > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Micheal Mims > Just Plane Nutts in Irvine Ca. > mailto:mimsmand@ix.netcom.com > http://www.netcom.com/~mimsmand > > \ / > \ _\/\/_ > / __/_//\\_\_____ > > F-117 > Having structural failure! Thanks Michael, I am just trying to get my feelers out so if I come across one I'll have more info to go on. John F. Esch "Q-Tip" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Oct 1997 02:03:00 -0400 (EDT) From: BSHADR@aol.com Subject: KR: KR Perrykosh In a message dated 97-09-30 19:28:47 EDT, you write: << Well then I guess its a date! See yall next Sept! :o) Maybe we can get a list of historical sites (very old buildings and such) from Don?!?! (Randy are you listening?) >> Geeezzzz...now I gotta be a tour guide/travel agent too!!! Next Rob will want me to set him up with a high school cheer leader!!! Randy ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Oct 1997 01:03:56 -0500 From: Bobby Muse Subject: Re: KR: 97 Gathering page At 01:44 AM 9/30/97 -0700, you wrote: > >Can I stick my nose in here? What the heck is a defreeze gear? >If it's none of my business I'll back off, but I am curious. > >Dave Moore > > Bill Defreeze was a 'KR Designee'(There were six Designees spead out accross the country just after Ken Rand's death that kept the KR going - all were experienced KR builders). Bill had designed a retractable trigear using original retractable main gear and reatractable nose gear using the front forks off of a BMX bicyle. Bobby Muse(N122B) bmuse@mindspring.com Wimberly, TX ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Oct 1997 00:36:29 -0700 From: David Moore Subject: Re: KR: Revmaster e-mail address At 06:28 PM 9/30/97 -0700, you wrote: >At 07:40 PM 9/30/97 -0500, you wrote: >>Does anyone have the e-mail address/web site for Revmaster. I've not had >>any luck with my searches. >> >>Thanks much. >> >>Ed Janssen >> >> >I don't think they have email. I built a site about a year ago that >contains pictures and information about their products. > >http://pw2.netcom.com/~mimsmand/rev.html > Just for everyones information the area code in the high desert has been changed from 619 to 760 as of Sept. 22, 1997. So the number would be 760-244-3074. I live about 5 miles from Revmaster. Dave Moore >I guess you have to use the old telephone! 619.244.3074 If you call them >make sure you tell them you got the number from the web page! I am trying >to convince them they need one! :o) >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >Micheal Mims >Just Plane Nutts in Irvine Ca. >mailto:mimsmand@ix.netcom.com >http://www.netcom.com/~mimsmand > > \ / > \ _\/\/_ > / __/_//\\_\_____ > > F-117 >Having structural failure! > > > David Moore Turnkey1@MSComm.Com Hesperia, Calif. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Oct 1997 00:40:01 -0700 From: David Moore Subject: Re: KR: Project update Brian, You say you are building a stretched and widened KR2s, how long and how wide? What engine? Dave Moore (just being nosey) At 01:45 AM 10/1/97 GMT, you wrote: >I finnally finished glueing up my fuselage sides (not the plywood). I >will now be able to start frameing up the fuseage and finally see some >real progress. I have decided to frame it up before I put the plywood >on and to make the sides straight up and down. I plan to start >tomorrow night and I will start taking more pictures so I can post >them on my webpage. > > > >Brian J. Bland >Claremore, OK > >Building Stretched, Widened KR-2S > >bbland@busprod.com > >http://www.busprod.com/bbland/kr2s.htm > > David Moore Turnkey1@MSComm.Com Hesperia, Calif. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Oct 1997 00:58:29 -0700 From: David Moore Subject: Re: KR: Adrian Carter's web site Brian, I just called up Adrians web site and had no problems. It could be your server. Dave Moore At 01:40 AM 10/1/97 GMT, you wrote: >Adrian, > > I have not been able to access your web site for a while now. >Has anyone else been able to get to it? > > > >Brian J. Bland >Claremore, OK > >Building Stretched, Widened KR-2S > >bbland@busprod.com > >http://www.busprod.com/bbland/kr2s.htm > > David Moore Turnkey1@MSComm.Com Hesperia, Calif. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Oct 1997 04:05:51 -0600 From: Adrian Carter Subject: Re: KR: Adrian Carter's web site Micheal Mims wrote: > > At 01:40 AM 10/1/97 GMT, you wrote: > >Adrian, > > > > I have not been able to access your web site for a while now. > >Has anyone else been able to get to it? > > > > > > > > Just went there using: > > http://www.cuug.ab.ca/~cartera/ > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Micheal Mims > Just Plane Nutts in Irvine Ca. > mailto:mimsmand@ix.netcom.com > http://www.netcom.com/~mimsmand > > \ / > \ _\/\/_ > / __/_//\\_\_____ > > F-117 > Having structural failure! Hello Mike, Try the url as below???????? - -- Adrian VE6AFY cartera@cuug.ab.ca http://www.cuug.ab.ca/~cartera ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Oct 1997 04:12:08 -0600 From: Adrian Carter Subject: Re: KR: Adrian Carter's web site Brian Bland wrote: > > On Tue, 30 Sep 1997 20:23:24 -0700, you wrote: > > >At 01:40 AM 10/1/97 GMT, you wrote: > >>Adrian, > >> > >> I have not been able to access your web site for a while now. > >>Has anyone else been able to get to it? > >> > >> > >> > > > >Just went there using: > > > >http://www.cuug.ab.ca:8001/~cartera/ > > > >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >Micheal Mims > >Just Plane Nutts in Irvine Ca. > >mailto:mimsmand@ix.netcom.com > >http://www.netcom.com/~mimsmand > > > > \ / > > \ _\/\/_ > > / __/_//\\_\_____ > > > > F-117 > >Having structural failure! > > > I just tried it again and all I got was: > > Netscape unable to locate server > > Server does not have a DNS entry > > Brian J. Bland > Claremore, OK > > Building Stretched, Widened KR-2S > > bbland@busprod.com > > http://www.busprod.com/bbland/kr2s.htm Sri Guys, Some time ago my ISP dropped the :8001 but, it should still work with both addresses. Will check it out, tnx. Maybe the ones that have a link to my site change the url. - -- Adrian VE6AFY cartera@cuug.ab.ca http://www.cuug.ab.ca/~cartera ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Oct 1997 04:28:38 -0600 From: Adrian Carter Subject: Re: KR: Adrian Carter's web site Adrian Carter wrote: > > Brian Bland wrote: > > > > On Tue, 30 Sep 1997 20:23:24 -0700, you wrote: > > > > >At 01:40 AM 10/1/97 GMT, you wrote: > > >>Adrian, > > >> > > >> I have not been able to access your web site for a while now. > > >>Has anyone else been able to get to it? > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > >Just went there using: > > > > > >http://www.cuug.ab.ca:8001/~cartera/ > > > > > >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > >Micheal Mims > > >Just Plane Nutts in Irvine Ca. > > >mailto:mimsmand@ix.netcom.com > > >http://www.netcom.com/~mimsmand > > > > > > \ / > > > \ _\/\/_ > > > / __/_//\\_\_____ > > > > > > F-117 > > >Having structural failure! > > > > > I just tried it again and all I got was: > > > > Netscape unable to locate server > > > > Server does not have a DNS entry > > > > Brian J. Bland > > Claremore, OK > > > > Building Stretched, Widened KR-2S > > > > bbland@busprod.com > > > > http://www.busprod.com/bbland/kr2s.htm > Sri Guys, > Some time ago my ISP dropped the :8001 but, it should still > work with both addresses. Will check it out, tnx. Maybe the > ones that have a link to my site change the url. > -- > Adrian VE6AFY > cartera@cuug.ab.ca > http://www.cuug.ab.ca/~cartera Me Again, Tried all the links from the home pages that have my link and all worked OK, some had the :8001 and others as listed in this email. Both URL's should work, however sometime in the future the :8001 will be dropped. Mike, works good from your homepage real snappy at this hour also. - -- Adrian VE6AFY cartera@cuug.ab.ca http://www.cuug.ab.ca/~cartera ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Oct 1997 05:21:11 -0600 From: Adrian Carter Subject: Re: KR: Adrian Carter's web site Brian Bland wrote: > > On Tue, 30 Sep 1997 20:23:24 -0700, you wrote: > > >At 01:40 AM 10/1/97 GMT, you wrote: > >>Adrian, > >> > >> I have not been able to access your web site for a while now. > >>Has anyone else been able to get to it? > >> > >> > >> > > > >Just went there using: > > > >http://www.cuug.ab.ca:8001/~cartera/ > > > >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >Micheal Mims > >Just Plane Nutts in Irvine Ca. > >mailto:mimsmand@ix.netcom.com > >http://www.netcom.com/~mimsmand > > > > \ / > > \ _\/\/_ > > / __/_//\\_\_____ > > > > F-117 > >Having structural failure! > > > I just tried it again and all I got was: > > Netscape unable to locate server > > Server does not have a DNS entry This just means the Domain Name Server is overloaded - try again later! Does not mean anything is wrong, just busy. > Brian J. Bland > Claremore, OK > > Building Stretched, Widened KR-2S > > bbland@busprod.com > > http://www.busprod.com/bbland/kr2s.htm - -- Adrian VE6AFY cartera@cuug.ab.ca http://www.cuug.ab.ca/~cartera ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Oct 1997 06:39:24 -0500 From: Kerry Miller Subject: KR: Adrian's web site and others Hi, guys! The problem is not in your web site. Micro$oft just announced that the new Internet Explorer 4 is available for download and it has just about brought the whole internet to a crawl. It will be back to normal in a couple of days, or when everybody starts finding out about all the bugs, I mean features... Keep 'em Flying, Kerry Miller Royse City, TX ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Oct 1997 06:00:05 -0600 From: Adrian Carter Subject: Re: KR: Adrian's web site and others Kerry Miller wrote: > > Hi, guys! > The problem is not in your web site. Micro$oft just announced that the new > Internet Explorer 4 is available for download and it has just about brought > the whole internet to a crawl. It will be back to normal in a couple of > days, or when everybody starts finding out about all the bugs, I mean > features... > Keep 'em Flying, > Kerry Miller > Royse City, TX Good Morning Kerry, Whatcha you doing up so early in the morning? We must be in the same time zone. Just getting ready for my morning walk in 2 mins. - -- Adrian VE6AFY cartera@cuug.ab.ca http://www.cuug.ab.ca/~cartera ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Oct 1997 14:06:48 -0700 From: Alessandro Pecorara Subject: KR: fiberglass wet layup I read, in a old issue of SPORT AVIATION: "never allow micro tu cure on bare foam with the idea of glassing over it later". A few days ago, I've been told that glassing over cured micro is possible (and may be useful if your core is not-so-good and you have some corrections to do, such as spar cap to foam smoothing, with less risk of damages). Of course, before glassing, micro surfaces have to be sanded dull thoroughly. A wing microed all around, looks like being easier tbe covered wrapping around long sheets of glass fibre, thus reducings overlap joints to a bare minimum. my English is quite basic, hope to have been able to explain the idea. Should like to hear anyone's comment. best regards alessandro pecorara ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Oct 1997 07:18:34 -0500 From: Mark Pierce Subject: Re: KR: Revmaster e-mail address Yes Mike, I'll bet it does...... Mark Pierce. MarkPi@oz.sunflower.org Micheal Mims wrote: > > At 10:04 PM 9/30/97 -0500, you wrote: > >Ed, try: > > > >http://www.reallink.com/mount > > > > Gee that sure looks familiar!! Darn hackers!! :o) > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Micheal Mims > Just Plane Nutts in Irvine Ca. > mailto:mimsmand@ix.netcom.com > http://www.netcom.com/~mimsmand > > \ / > \ _\/\/_ > / __/_//\\_\_____ > > F-117 > Having structural failure! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Oct 1997 08:49:46 -0700 From: Micheal Mims Subject: Re: KR: Adrian Carter's web site At 04:28 AM 10/1/97 -0600, you wrote: >Mike, works good from your homepage real snappy at this hour also. >-- Yep its always worked from using the link from my site. Humm....... Don't know what's up but I don't think its your ISP! ________________________________ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Micheal Mims Just Plane Nutts mailto:mimsmand@ix.netcom.com http://www.netcom.com/~mimsmand ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Oct 1997 08:56:38 -0700 From: Micheal Mims Subject: Re: KR: fiberglass wet layup At 02:06 PM 10/1/97 -0700, you wrote: A wing microed all around, looks like being >easier tbe covered wrapping around long sheets of glass fibre, thus >reducings overlap joints to a bare minimum. >my English is quite basic, hope to have been able to explain the idea. >Should like to hear anyone's comment. >best regards > Your english is great! Much better than my Italian! :o) From my experience,..applying micro to foam and letting it cure so you can sand it doesn't work so well. You will find it difficult to sand because the areas with micro are much harder than the bare foam. Trying to true up (make flat) a surface like this is almost impossible. Your best bet is to sand down the high spots, fill in the low spots (with dry micro) and then slurry the whole thing and apply your glass. Maybe someone else has had better luck and can offer more positive advise. ________________________________ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Micheal Mims Just Plane Nutts mailto:mimsmand@ix.netcom.com http://www.netcom.com/~mimsmand ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Oct 1997 11:05:51 -0500 (CDT) From: Steven A Eberhart Subject: Re: KR: fiberglass wet layup On Wed, 1 Oct 1997, Micheal Mims wrote: > At 02:06 PM 10/1/97 -0700, you wrote: > A wing microed all around, looks like being > >easier tbe covered wrapping around long sheets of glass fibre, thus > >reducings overlap joints to a bare minimum. > >my English is quite basic, hope to have been able to explain the idea. > >Should like to hear anyone's comment. > >best regards > > > > > Your english is great! Much better than my Italian! :o) > > >From my experience,..applying micro to foam and letting it cure so you can > sand it doesn't work so well. You will find it difficult to sand because > the areas with micro are much harder than the bare foam. Trying to true up > (make flat) a surface like this is almost impossible. Your best bet is to > sand down the high spots, fill in the low spots (with dry micro) and then > slurry the whole thing and apply your glass. > > Maybe someone else has had better luck and can offer more positive advise. > I have been helping on a cozy that has "hard shelled" wings. The wings were covered with dry micro completely, then sanded, then the fiberglass was applied. This was supposed to reduce the micro filling that needed to be done. Well, the wings still need to be micro'd so I don't see where the savings are. I am going to go the slurry over the foam with glass applied to the wet slurry for my KR. Tail sections scheduled for construction this winter with wings in the Spring. Steve Eberhart > ________________________________ > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Micheal Mims > Just Plane Nutts > mailto:mimsmand@ix.netcom.com > > http://www.netcom.com/~mimsmand > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Oct 1997 11:12:11 -0400 From: Timothy Stagg Subject: KR: Member List -Reply Tim Stagg would like to get off the email list. Please respond, omitting the preface: KR from your subject line, so that we will not automatically delete the message. Thank you. ------------------------------ End of krnet-l-digest V1 #109 *****************************