From: Majordomo@teleport.com[SMTP:Majordomo@teleport.com] Sent: Thursday, December 11, 1997 7:09 AM To: john bouyea Subject: Majordomo file: list 'krnet-l' file 'v01.n133' -- From: owner-krnet-l-digest@lists.teleport.com (krnet-l-digest) To: krnet-l-digest@lists.teleport.com Subject: krnet-l-digest V1 #133 Reply-To: krnet-l-digest Sender: owner-krnet-l-digest@lists.teleport.com Errors-To: owner-krnet-l-digest@lists.teleport.com Precedence: bulk krnet-l-digest Saturday, October 18 1997 Volume 01 : Number 133 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 17 Oct 1997 21:49:04 -0700 From: Micheal Mims Subject: Re: KR: Fw: oilite bearing(and kitplanes) First off,.. I want to apologize for the waste of band width my earlier post incurred, but as child like as it was I did enjoy it! :o) Now on a more serious note, the letter I sent to kitplanes and cced to krnet did not post so here it is again and it should be good for a decent thread. FYI, I did not renew my subscription to Kitplanes neither did I renew with the EAA. The other day while cleaning out the magazine rack I counted about 10 issues of Sport Aviationa and Kitplanes that I haven't even opened yet. Obviously I have no interest in what's inside! I will rejoin the EAA when I deem it a necessity, right now it is not! On the other hand my Wooden Boat magazines are worn out! :o) Last night I wrote: In the Letters section of the Nov issue Roger Russell writes in about the comparison of the Avtech Jabiru ST vs the C-150 and how he would rather spend the money on a C-150 and fly it now rather than spend time building! And he claiming that the homebuilt arena has becomes a rich man's game. Your rebuttal was something to the effect that most builders are motivated by the idea of building an aircraft rather than cost, I am here to tell you that you are WAY off! Roger is right! Money is the motivating factor behind more of us than you obviously realize! Please take a pole and find out! I have Sport Aviation magazines that date back to 1961 and up until 1982 or so the homebuilt focal point were aircraft (not motorized kites) that could be built for less than seven or eight thousand dollars. Now there are kits that cost upwards of $400,000! I am willing to bet if you were to take the combined cost of the three best Lancair 4P's that were at Oshkosh this year it would be higher than ALL the homebuilts combined that attended in,..say 1970! Somewhere I read today that Piper , Cessna or Beech just released a turbo prop that will sell for around 1.3 mil and they referred to it as getting back to "Grassroots Aviation" . 1.3 million is grassroots aviation! Yea right! Im with Roger, I would spend $20k on a nice used C-150 WAY before I would spend $40k on an airplane that has the same performance! Its almost a no brainer, plus the fact the C-150 will increase in value and the Avtech Jabiru ST will more than likely be worth $5 or $6k in a few years. Oh yea and will this company be around to buy parts from 10 years down the road? VERY Doubtful! I think the homebuilt movement has really preceded in the wrong direction, heck you don't have to even build it yourself anymore, there are professionally built Lancairs, Glasairs, and RV's being pumped out of the Chino airport faster than Cessna is putting out C-172s! I think the 51 % rule is being violated in a major way and should be changed to something like 75 / 25 (you build 75%). Well as Roger said at the end of his letter "I don't expect you to print this either" but trust me there are a lot more of us out here that take this position than you think! Mike Mims Irvine California ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Micheal Mims Just Plane Nutts in Irvine Ca. mailto:mikemims@pacbell.net http://home.pacbell.net/mikemims ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Oct 1997 07:31:30 +0200 From: "PIERRE & ANTON FOUCHE'" Subject: KR: H.A.P.I. Engines Hi Guys & Gals Anton here in South Africa I need some help concerning the H.A.P.I Engine. 1) Does H.A.P.I still exist, and if so can anybody in the US help me with an address, telephone number or e-mail address. 2) If H.A.P.I does not exist anymore is the anyone who can help me with specs and manuals etc. Thanks in advance. The reason I'm asking about the HAPI engine (This is going to make you sick) is that I bought a complete KR2 last night, it has been very lightly hail damaged on the turtal deck and horizontal stab but is definetally of championship constuction quality. The Aircraft is fully complete, has all instrumentation, radio and a HAPI engine, it is missing the starter, magneto's & prop. Here's the thing I only paid $3200 !!!! for the whole aircraft. I felt a bit like a thief because the chap I bought it from knows nothing about aviation, he bought it as a repossesion from a bank, and clearly didn't know the true value of the airplane, I paid him his asking price. All that aside I should have the airplane in the air before December, but am going strip down and rebuild the engine ebfore flying. Thanks again Kind Regards Anton "I'm so lucky" Fouche' P-I-F@pixie.co.za In South "El Nino is playing with the weather already" Africa. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Oct 1997 07:35:22 +0200 From: "PIERRE & ANTON FOUCHE'" Subject: KR: Fw: H.A.P.I. Engines - ---------- > From: PIERRE & ANTON FOUCHE' > To: krnet-l@teleport.com > Subject: KR: H.A.P.I. Engines > Date: 18`18, October 18, 1997 07:31 > > Hi Guys & Gals > > Anton here in South Africa > I need some help concerning the H.A.P.I Engine. > 1) Does H.A.P.I still exist, and if so can anybody in the US help me with > an address, telephone number or e-mail address. > 2) If H.A.P.I does not exist anymore is the anyone who can help me with > specs > and manuals etc. > > Thanks in advance. > > The reason I'm asking about the HAPI engine (This is going to make you > sick) is > that I bought a complete KR2 last night, it has been very lightly hail > damaged on > the turtal deck and horizontal stab but is definetally of championship > constuction > quality. The Aircraft is fully complete, has all instrumentation, radio and > a HAPI > engine, it is missing the starter, magneto's & prop. > Here's the thing I only paid $3200 !!!! for the whole aircraft. > > I felt a bit like a thief because the chap I bought it from knows nothing > about > aviation, he bought it as a repossesion from a bank, and clearly didn't > know the > true value of the airplane, I paid him his asking price. > > All that aside I should have the airplane in the air before December, but > am going > strip down and rebuild the engine ebfore flying. > > Thanks again > Kind Regards > Anton "I'm so lucky" Fouche' > P-I-F@pixie.co.za > > In South "El Nino is playing with the weather already" Africa. > > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Oct 1997 22:34:07 -0700 From: Micheal Mims Subject: KR: colored plexi or lexan Does anyone know of a good source for green and red plxi glass? I need to start thinking about aerodynamic nav lights for my wing tips. Also I don't plan on spending the extra $$$ on expensive strobes and plan to use a heavy duty flasher from a older US built auto to flash a single element brake light bulb in a red lens (beacon / anti-collision) atop the vertical (or inside the vertical, ala F-18) Should work just fine. Thoughts? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Micheal Mims Just Plane Nutts in Irvine Ca. mailto:mikemims@pacbell.net http://home.pacbell.net/mikemims ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Oct 1997 22:42:10 -0700 From: Micheal Mims Subject: Re: KR: H.A.P.I. Engines At 07:31 AM 10/18/97 +0200, PIERRE & ANTON FOUCHE' wrote: >Hi Guys & Gals > >Anton here in South Africa >I need some help concerning the H.A.P.I Engine. >1) Does H.A.P.I still exist, and if so can anybody in the US help me with > an address, telephone number or e-mail address. I think Mosler Motors bought HAPI, I don't have their address but at I think you should still be able to get parts. Someone on the KRent will send you the address and phone number before Monday, I also heard a Rumor that TEC was related to Mosler. You can usually find their adds in Kitplanes. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Micheal Mims Just Plane Nutts in Irvine Ca. mailto:mikemims@pacbell.net http://home.pacbell.net/mikemims ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Oct 1997 07:55:22 +0200 From: "PIERRE & ANTON FOUCHE'" Subject: Fw: KR: H.A.P.I. Engines Thanks Michael You are one person we can rely apon on this list. Cheers Anton Fouche' P-I-F@pixie.co.za South Africa - ---------- > From: Micheal Mims > To: krnet-l@teleport.com; krnet-l@teleport.com > Subject: Re: KR: H.A.P.I. Engines > Date: 18`18, October 18, 1997 07:42 > > At 07:31 AM 10/18/97 +0200, PIERRE & ANTON FOUCHE' wrote: > >Hi Guys & Gals > > > >Anton here in South Africa > >I need some help concerning the H.A.P.I Engine. > >1) Does H.A.P.I still exist, and if so can anybody in the US help me with > > an address, telephone number or e-mail address. > > I think Mosler Motors bought HAPI, I don't have their address but at I think > you should still be able to get parts. Someone on the KRent will send you > the address and phone number before Monday, I also heard a Rumor that TEC > was related to Mosler. You can usually find their adds in Kitplanes. > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Micheal Mims > Just Plane Nutts in Irvine Ca. > mailto:mikemims@pacbell.net > http://home.pacbell.net/mikemims ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Oct 1997 22:51:12 -0700 From: Micheal Mims Subject: Re: KR: H.A.P.I. Engines At 07:31 AM 10/18/97 +0200, PIERRE & ANTON FOUCHE' wrote: >Hi Guys & Gals > >Anton here in South Africa >I need some help concerning the H.A.P.I Engine. >1) Does H.A.P.I still exist, and if so can anybody in the US help me with > an address, telephone number or e-mail address. On second thought I bet Steve at Great Planes can hook you up with almost anything you may need for the HAPI engine. Steve??? GREAT PLAINS AIRCRAFT SUPPLY P.O. Box 545 Boys Town, Nebraska 68010 Phone (402)- 493-6507 Ask for Steve Bennett. http://www.greatplainsas.com/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Micheal Mims Just Plane Nutts in Irvine Ca. mailto:mikemims@pacbell.net http://home.pacbell.net/mikemims ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Oct 1997 00:06:39 -0700 From: David Moore Subject: Re: KR: Rudder Pedals Austin, When I built my rudder pedals, I used 5/8" x .049 chromoly and straightened the dimensions on the plans 3 1/2" pedal, 7" vertical, 15" accross. Cut the corners on a 45, and welded them together. If you look at the ones RR sells, they look about the same. Dave Moore At 07:33 PM 10/17/97, you wrote: >I am getting ready to build my rudder pedals and am having trouble bending >the tubing according to plans. I am considering a welded fabrication >either with the tubing or building the thing from aluminum. Would like to >hear some ideas and suggestions. I built the brake pedals and brackets >(modification kit from Wicks) this week and they turned out nice. > >I could use 1/2" aluminum conduit as the "shaft" welded to 1-1/2" x 1/8" >aluminum flat stock for the vertical and another piece of 1/2" aluminum >conduit welded at the top of the flat stock for the "pedal" and fabricate >poly bearings for the "shaft" and the brake pedals. Any thoughts pro or con? > >Thanks, > >Austin Clark >Pascagoula, MS > > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Oct 97 11:00:08 GMT From: mathewrz@iafrica.com (Rob Matthews) Subject: Re: KR: Member mailing difficulty On 17/10/97 5:08PM, in message <34477F8B.3F54BC7E@teleport.com>, Ross Youngblood wrote: > I have had reocurring problems getting email to the following address, > perhaps one of you KRNETTERS can try the address and tell me if it > works. Please reply to me directly mailto:rossy@teleport.com, instead > of to krnet-l > > steveb@aviation.denel.co.za > > Of course I could have a typo in this address, but teleport doesn't > like to send any mail there, says that denel.co.za doesn't exist. > > -- Thanks > Ross > KRNET-L admin > > > > > -- > > Ross Youngblood Pager: (800)SKY-PAGE > PIN#895-9073 > Staff Technical Specialist voicemail: (800)538-6838 x > 1632 > Schlumberger SABER Bus Line: (541)714-1754 (Note Area code) > Corvallis,Oregon Mailto:rossy@San-Jose.ate.slb.com > Hi Ross This is the info that we are looking for as Steve has been kicked off the list a couple of times etc. We were wondering where the fault lies, and now you have given us the answer we need. Many thanks for this info. We will try to sort this problem out. Regards - -- Rob Matthews Have a nice day South Africa email mathewrz@iafrica.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Oct 97 11:06:48 GMT From: mathewrz@iafrica.com (Rob Matthews) Subject: Re: KR: Transponder antenna On 17/10/97 5:52PM, in message <344789C1.52BFA1D7@teleport.com>, Ross Youngblood wrote: Hi Ross Please could you find out for us if they will send to South Africa as it sounds good for me. I think it would be easier to pay by credit card. Regards Rob Matthews Sunny South Africa (rain,rain,rain its all we seem to be getting) > The $5.00 book from RST electronics tells all. > > You can place the XPONDER antenna inside the aircraft, pointing down, > with a small ground plane dish. The $5.00 book from RST describes > how to do this. If I posted here what I read, I think I would be > cheating RST out of well earned $5.00. > > -- Ross > Oscar Zuniga wrote: > > > > I have always heard that the transponder antenna should be on the BOTTOM > > side of the airplane for best results (being seen on radar). Is this > > not as important on a non-metal airplane? I've heard that composite is > > 'transparent' to VHF signals, but what about wood framing and the > > control cables, etc. in the fuselage? > > > > Oscar Zuniga > > Medford, Oregon > > > > ______________________________________________________ > > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > -- > > Ross Youngblood Pager: (800)SKY-PAGE > PIN#895-9073 > Staff Technical Specialist voicemail: (800)538-6838 x > 1632 > Schlumberger SABER Bus Line: (541)714-1754 (Note Area code) > Corvallis,Oregon Mailto:rossy@San-Jose.ate.slb.com > - -- Rob Matthews Have a nice day South Africa email mathewrz@iafrica.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Oct 1997 08:19:01 -0700 From: Donald Reid Subject: Re: KR: Rudder Pedals Austin Clark wrote: > > I am getting ready to build my rudder pedals and am having trouble bending > the tubing according to plans. I am considering a welded fabrication > either with the tubing or building the thing from aluminum. Would like to > hear some ideas and suggestions. > Austin Clark > Pascagoula, MS > I welded mine out of 4130. The tubing is 5/8" x 0.049. The pedals are made from 0.050 sheet. What I did do differently, is that the bearings are made from the next larger size 4130, 3/4 X 0.058, with a flange welded on to that to bolt on the floor. Before permanent assembly, I drilled a small hole in the top of the bearing tube. This will be the spot to add an occasional drop of oil. The steel-on-steel bearing surface works just fine in this application; in fact, that is the way rag wing planes work. You don't really need fancy bearings. I should have photos on my web page within the next week or so that will show these. - -- Don Reid mailto:donreid@erols.com http://www.erols.com/donreid/kr_page.htm ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Oct 1997 09:42:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Horn2004@aol.com Subject: Re: Re: KR: Fw: oilite bearing(and kitplanes) In a message dated 10/17/97 10:54:55 PM, you wrote: - --SNIP-- <> Good job Mike! I was sitting back on my porcelin recliner just the other day looking through the most recent issue of Kitplanes and realized almost the entire issue was about EXPENSIVE stuff I could never afford. Hardly any info. on building aircraft in there. Just a bunch of dang beauty shots. Too bad they don't follow the lead of WoodenBoat or KitCar. Lots of work in progress in those publications. Steve Horn Dallas, TX Horn2004@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Oct 1997 08:41:03 From: Ron Lee Subject: KR: Wing Skins The SANDWICH construction that Jeff mentions appears to be very strong. I beleive someone in the recent past posted info on the relative strengths of different foam/fiberglass combinations. If the normal KR wing only has glass on the outside, then adding a layer of glass to the inside (ALA Diehl), would make that structure mucho stronger. Probably almost as strong is the method that Mr. mims is using..... Europa foam cores that are hotwired and basically solid except for lightening holes. Ron At 08:05 97/10/17 -0700, you wrote: >Jeff, > I heard that Ken Rand used to jump out of his KR and walk out along >the wing as a demo. Of course I think he was lighter than I was, >and he may have done a tightrope walk along the spar. I think if I >did this, my planes wing would eventually tip to the ground as I walked >out towards the edge. > I don't think I would walk anywhere but on the spar caps unless I >wanted to hear cracking noises. > > -- Ross >> My Diehl skins have two layups of glass on the outside, 1/4 inch of foam >> underneath it (except at the spars) with perferations through the foam >> about 1 per square inch, then another layer of glass on the inside. The >> ribs underneath are 1/4 inch plyfoam (1/4 inch foam with a layup of glass >> on either side). >> Jeff ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Oct 1997 10:03:58 -0700 From: bmsi@ix.netcom.com Subject: Re: KR: Fw: oilite bearing Mouse@heiwa.com wrote: > > KR>At 08:31 PM 10/17/97 -0500, Mark Langford wrote: > KR>> H.K.Myer, Jr. wrote: > KR>> > KR>>> Hi Mark: > KR>>> > KR>>> Beemer Precision owns the registered trademark "OILITE". Trademarks have > KR>to be protected and we seek violators of our mark where ever we can. 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Man that felt good! > KR>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > KR>Micheal Mims > KR>Just Plane Nutts in Irvine Ca. > KR>mailto:mikemims@pacbell.net > KR>http://home.pacbell.net/mikemims > > I wonder if you sent a bill to Mr. Myer for a new Keyboard after wearing > out the E, I,L, and T keys, what his reaction would be. E-I, E-I, O Bruce S. Campbell Tampa ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Oct 1997 11:35:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Steen8751A@aol.com Subject: Re: KR: colored plexi or lexan(strobe) I spent $20 on my strobe and it wotks great. Bought a 12 volt burgalar alarm strobe from Radio Shack. It is approx 5" diameter. I removed the globe and the strobe bulb. I set the strobe bulb in a boat tail light lens, stabilized with foam, mounted on the belly of my VariEZE. I put the power supply (now only 5"x1") under my seat and ran wire from the power supply to the bulb. Doug in PA ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Oct 1997 11:45:22 -0400 (EDT) From: WELTEH@aol.com Subject: Re: KR: regained lost medical I started this note as an FYI to another posting. but thought it might be good information for someone in the same boat I'm in. First of all, getting your medical certificate in the first place for less than 20/20 vision is not as hard as you might think (well at least for me ) I only had 20/30 in one eye and 20/100 ( corrected ) in the other. this kept me from even trying for my licence for years, but my love for flying just overwelmed me and I started taking lesons. after about 5 hours of flight time I went for my medical exam ( I'm surprised I passed the blood pressure part I was so nerves ) as I exspeced I failed the Eye test, :-c . But I was informed that I could have a temporary medical certificate that was good for my flight training and a student pilot licence. But I would have to take a demonstrated ability test (after you finish our training ) . This is basicly a standard flight test but it has to be conducted with an FAA exsamaner not a designated one. To do this I had to fly to the regional office ( 100 miles away ) and take the test This can get complicated if you don't pass, because thay may not let you fly the plane back to your home feild. ( I flew solo to the test ) With the Demonstrated Ability Waver in hand this will keep you in the air as long as your vision stays at about the same level. for me that was 8 years. at which time I developed Cateracts, and probebly the smartest thing I did was not try to take my bi annual medical with my now major vision loss. Its harder to regain a pulled medical then It is to just not retest till the problem is corrected. The FAA seams not to care that you haven't had a medical in the last 6-?? years as long as you haven't developed any thing new ( main point hear ), THAT HAS NOT BEEN REPORTED, OR CORRECTED. I was fortunate to have a doctor I trust ( he is also a pilot ) and have know most of my life, this is also important, If you can try talking to the doctor first , before the exsame( before its offical ), confirm your changes of passing the tests, After the exsame the doctor can do one of 3 things 1- pass you 2- send your paperwork to Oaklahoma for further evaluation 3- fail you If you don't pass try to get it sent to Oaklahoma for further evalualtion. this is an easer route to take then fighting option #3 for me the doctor passed me in part because I was upfront about by medical history. and due to the fact that the surgary had improved my vision to 20/15 in one eye and 20/80 in the other, and I had no other changes to my medical condition, ( no heart or blood pressure problems ). My last point here is Don't fore go Flying out of fear on the medical just find a doctor you can talk to and go for it. Howard ( plastic eyes )Welte Tracy ,Ca hlwelte@mail.vornet.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Oct 1997 13:56:15 -0400 (EDT) From: TANDEM2@aol.com Subject: Re: KR: Stub Wing Foam and stuff marvin, i have tried to get in touch with you but don't seem to be able to. i live in west seattle and was wanting to meet you and see your kr, is this possible? thanks tandem2@aol.com john weston ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Oct 1997 07:08:31 -0700 From: MARVIN MCCOY Subject: KR: TEST TEST TEST - ---------------------- Just testing. My e-mail does not seem to be getting through!!! Marvin McCoy Seattle, WA. North end of Boeing field Mr.Marvin@worldnet.att.net - ------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Oct 1997 14:31:27 -0400 (EDT) From: MikeTnyc@aol.com Subject: KR: Re: colored plexi or lexan >Also I don't plan on spending the extra $$$ on expensive strobes and plan to >use a heavy duty flasher from a older US built auto to flash a single >element brake light bulb in a red lens (beacon / anti-collision) atop the >vertical (or inside the vertical, ala F-18) Should work just fine. >Thoughts? Assuming a high-intensity strobelike flash is what you want, I don't think this would give you good results. Strobes fire an intense blast of power through a Xenon tube like the electronic flash of a camera -- they're not just the equivalent of turning on and off a light bulb. Great Plains sells a strobe kit that might fit this purpose, which was in the $20-30 range in my (couple of years old) catalog. It includes all the guts, and comes in a version that wires into the electrical system or one that runs off a 9-volt battery for non-electrical system planes. This is probably still not bright enough to be legal for night flight, but a hell of a lot better than a brake light blinking on and off. Mike Taglieri ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Oct 1997 12:16:05 -0700 From: Micheal Mims Subject: Re: KR: Re: colored plexi or lexan At 02:31 PM 10/18/97 -0400, MikeTnyc@aol.com wrote: >>Also I don't plan on spending the extra $$$ on expensive strobes and plan to >>use a heavy duty flasher from a older US built auto to flash a single >>element brake light bulb in a red lens (beacon / anti-collision) atop the >>vertical (or inside the vertical, ala F-18) Should work just fine. >>Thoughts? > >Assuming a high-intensity strobelike flash is what you want, I don't think >this would give you good results. Nope,.. not looking for strobe like flash just a lazy slow turn signal like flashing. (you know the kind Cessna put on the tip of the vertical stab on C-150/152s) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Micheal Mims Just Plane Nutts in Irvine Ca. mailto:mikemims@pacbell.net http://home.pacbell.net/mikemims ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Oct 1997 17:59:59 -0400 (EDT) From: JEHayward@aol.com Subject: Re: KR: colored plexi or lexan In a message dated 97-10-18 01:59:24 EDT, you write: << Also I don't plan on spending the extra $$$ on expensive strobes and plan to use a heavy duty flasher from a older US built auto to flash a single element brake light bulb in a red lens (beacon / anti-collision) atop the vertical (or inside the vertical, ala F-18) Should work just fine. Thoughts? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Micheal Mims >> Yep Michael, my plans are for the same thing but I had taken my idea from the T-38/F5 aircraft. I was thinking of looking at some sort of trailer/automobile lens to go on either side and making a mounting bracket high up from (vertical stab) spar to spar. I also wasn't sure about how much heat might be generated in the enclosure. Jim Hayward ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Oct 1997 16:09:06 -0700 From: enewbold@sprynet.com Subject: Re: KR: Transponder antenna >Please could you find out for us if they will send to South Africa as it sounds >good for me. I think it would be easier to pay by credit card. >Regards >Rob Matthews Hi Rob. You can contact them directly by sending email to: sales@rst-engr.com The web site for RST Engineering is: www.rst-engr.com Jim Weir, the owner, is a really nice guy. I'm sure you cans can work out something. Ed Newbold Columbus, OH ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Oct 1997 21:17:32 -0400 (EDT) From: Krwr1@aol.com Subject: KR: Your Pics are Wanted for my Site! Hello Everyone.. The webmaster at my web site has informed me that we have received more disk space and can even more pictures to my Picture Library. (I have 82 photos so far online). What I was wanting to ask is if anyone is interested in having their own Picture Folder on my site for your information and pictures. There is so far no limit on how many pictures you can have, so if you are interested please E-Mail my webmaster at: simkinsn@valunet.com and let him know you are interested in having your own part on my site. Just another reminder, the site is going under even more in depth redesigns so please check it out often, and don't forget to sign the Guestbook. ***** http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Lab/3050/ ***** Thanks and I look forward to seeing you on my site too! - -- Bill Reents http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Lab/3050/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Oct 1997 19:31:03 -0600 From: jscott.pilot@juno.com (Jeffrey E Scott) Subject: Re: KR: Newbie with 1/2 vw question On Wed, 15 Oct 1997 19:02:21 -0600 jscott.pilot@juno.com (Jeffrey E Scott) writes: > > >On Wed, 15 Oct 1997 09:52:16 -0700 enewbold@sprynet.com writes: >>>Hello All, >>>I'm a newbie to this list. My primary interests are vw and 1/2 vw. >I >>>have been reading the list archives re: 1/2 vw balancing and have a >>>quick question. >> >>>Say I have a two bladed propeller. Should I mount the propeller with >>>the blades in the plane of the crank throws or perpendicular to that >>>plane? >> >>>Sid >> >> >>I think Sid has a valid question here. How 'bout it anyone? Jeff? >>Bobby? >> >>Ed Newbold >>Columbus, OH I had a chat with David Roe (of Hummelbird fame) about his prop position in relation to the plane of the crankshaft throws on his half VW. His answer was that he had only tried the porp in one position and that is not either within the same plane as the crank or perpendicular to it. He said the prop is mounted in the optimal postion for hand propping from behind on the left side, which is how he props his Hummelbird. regards, Jeff - ------- Jeff Scott - Los Alamos, NM jscott.pilot@juno.com See N1213W construction and first flight at http://fly.hiwaay.net~langford/kjefs.html & http: //www.thuntek.net/~jeb/krpage.htm ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Oct 1997 22:47:29 -0400 (EDT) From: EagleGator@aol.com Subject: Re: KR: KR-2 for Sale In a message dated 97-10-17 01:02:21 EDT, you write: << Netters, Looking for a bone stock KR-2 project? Just looked at this one this evening. Thought I would pass it along since it's not been advertised yet. If I had a little extra cash you wouldn't hear about it. Original builder deceased. This project is a real beauty. All wood work basically done. Best wood working job I've seen to date in a KR-2 - bar none. Has original Rand retract (positive pin locking mechanism installed) with mechanical brakes, but could very easily be retrofitted for fixed gear if desired. Horizontal stab. (with trim tab and Mac servo control installed) and rudder ready for paint. Some control components installed. Most materials to finish - factory premolds (forward deck, gas tank, canopy frame, rear deck, and wing tips). Foam and fiberglass included. Center spar installed with fittings, outer ones completed. Revmaster cowling. Brand new zero time Revmaster 2100D (75hp) with optional side oil drain on the case, Bendix dual-headed mag, starter, Rev-Flo carb., oil filter, oil cooler (mounted beneath engine), motor mount. Engine is clean, clean. Owner also has a zero time Revmaster 2100DT (turbo) - might sell this engine with the project instead of the 2100D - who knows? I'm trying to remember what I saw but I may be forgetting something else. Anyway, he's asking $5000.00 OBO. Located near Springfield, IL. His number is 217-623-4223. Ask for Dave. Ed Janssen >> Color this one SOLD. I drove up to Dave's today, and made a deal for the whole shebang. The turbo is a little rough but not bad internally (from what I could see) and will work nicely out in front of my 2S. The plane and other engine (which is IMMACULATE) will go to another guy here in St. Charles. Good deals go fast. Cheers! Rick Junkin EagleGator@aol.com St. Charles MO ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Oct 1997 19:58:56 -0700 From: MARVIN MCCOY Subject: Re: KR: Stub Wing Foam and stuff TANDEM2@aol.com wrote: > > marvin, i have tried to get in touch with you but don't seem to be able to. i > live in west seattle and was wanting to meet you and see your kr, is this > possible? > > thanks > tandem2@aol.com > john weston------------------- John Give me a call if you are in West Seattle. 762-1891 I am at 6279 Ellis Ave. S. I tried to e-mail you but I am not sure what was wrong. Marvin McCoy Seattle, WA. North end of Boeing field Mr.Marvin@worldnet.att.net - ------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Oct 1997 23:02:45 -0400 (EDT) From: BSHADR@aol.com Subject: Re: KR: colored plexi or lexan In a message dated 97-10-18 01:59:24 EDT, Mike wrote: << Does anyone know of a good source for green and red plxi glass? I need to start thinking about aerodynamic nav lights for my wing tips.>> Try TAP Plastics. I also have a plastics store a mile or so from here, if you need me to stop in next week... <> There was an article about a year ago using a heavy duty truck flasher and one recently about a 555 electronic timer. Can anybody fill in my failing memory and save poor Mike from my helping any more? Also remember, Mike doesn't read any of these "aviation related" magazines either, so we may have to scan the articles for him. Randy (the thorn) Stein PS - Back from helping my credit cards visit the kid in college. Boy would a KR sure have made this 350 mile 6 hour/one eye on the mirror trip shorter. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Oct 1997 22:11:46 -0500 From: rmccall Subject: Re: KR: Bend Over Been there! Done that, with the Piper! Rich McCall Junction City, KS Ross wrote: > All this stuff is really great, I was considering buying a Piper > Cherokee, but would have to sell everything to scrounge the down > payment. Painting the KR, cured me. Also these stories help. > > Micheal Mims wrote: > > > > At 11:04 PM 10/15/97 -0400, Scott Aldrich wrote: > > >" O.K. so where am I going with this?? Here's the good part - they > > >are approaching 80 hours of labor at $42.50 / hour!!!! The mechanics have > > you by the........................ > > > > A friend of mine decided to buy a cheep airplane to build time in, I think > > he bought a Piper Pacer with a fresh annual. He flew it for X amount of > > hours and then annual time came around. He had a few repairs in the fabric > > (much like yours) and two cracked jugs that the Mechs said had been cracked > > for a while. He spent enough on his first annual to rent a Piper Senaca III > > for almost 3 times as many hours as he put on his Pacer and take an ATP > > accelerated course. Needless to say it was a hard lesson for him. If you > > want an example of what it can be like to own a certified plane, drive down > > the road in your car and every fifty miles throw a 100 dollar bill out the > > window. Yea, that's about right! :o) > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > Micheal Mims > > Just Plane Nutts in Irvine Ca. > > mailto:mikemims@pacbell.net > > http://home.pacbell.net/mikemims ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Oct 1997 22:13:53 -0500 From: rmccall Subject: Re: KR: Bend Over Oh how right you are! Especially when some dud tries to bury the prop in at the end of the runway. Rich McCall Junction City, KS Austin Clark wrote: > At 21:39 10/15/97 -0700, you wrote: > >At 11:04 PM 10/15/97 -0400, Scott Aldrich wrote: > >>" O.K. so where am I going with this?? Here's the good part - they > >>are approaching 80 hours of labor at $42.50 / hour!!!! The mechanics have > >you by the........................ > > > >A friend of mine decided to buy a cheep airplane to build time in, I think > >he bought a Piper Pacer with a fresh annual. He flew it for X amount of > >hours and then annual time came around. He had a few repairs in the fabric > >(much like yours) and two cracked jugs that the Mechs said had been cracked > >for a while. He spent enough on his first annual to rent a Piper Senaca III > >for almost 3 times as many hours as he put on his Pacer and take an ATP > >accelerated course. Needless to say it was a hard lesson for him. If you > >want an example of what it can be like to own a certified plane, drive down > >the road in your car and every fifty miles throw a 100 dollar bill out the > >window. Yea, that's about right! :o) > >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >Micheal Mims > >Just Plane Nutts in Irvine Ca. > >mailto:mikemims@pacbell.net > >http://home.pacbell.net/mikemims > > > > > > Been there, done That! And if you really want a threaded anus, put it on a > leaseback. > > Austin Clark > Pascagoula, MS ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Oct 1997 23:12:46 -0400 (EDT) From: JEHayward@aol.com Subject: Re: KR: Antennas revisited I didn't see this reply come thru my mail so can only imagine AOL helped out so thought I'd re-send it. << I know the antenna gets soldered to the center wire of the coax. The braided shield is then twisted a little bit and soldered to a "ground plane" plate, right? OK. Then the questions I have are: 1. What size should this "ground plane" plate be (12"x12"?), 2. what material can I use for this plate (self-adhesive aluminum?), 3. and about what vicinity to the whip part of the antenna should this plate be mounted (in other words, how far away from the whip should this plate be)? >> Hi Ed.... the ground plane should be about 5% longer than your vertical element or about 25 to 26 inches *in radius* with the antenna mounted in the center of it. You may also substitute "radials" made from wire to give you more flexibility and save some weight. A minumum of 3 placed as equidistant (every 120 degrees) as possible. Four will work better.... just make an "X" with them extending out from each corner of your mounting bracket and the whip mounted in the middle of the bracket. Once, I put a chassis mount (female) BNC connector on an "L" bracket with coax connected to it (braid to the bracket and center to the center pin) with four 21" radials cut for the 2 meter ham band (144 to 148 MHz). I then assembled a male BNC connector with a 20" wire whip that was soldered to that connector's center pin and epoxied in place so it wouldn't touch the connector sides as it extended out the back of the connector. Then I put it on the one mounted on the "L" bracket and stuck it up in the attic....still works great 9 years later. You could mount an "L" bracket to one of the "V" braces behind the cockpit and run your radials out to the fuselage sides at a 45 degree angle or so from the bracket corners then forward/aft along the longeron. Solder a 24" wire to the center pin of a male BNC and plug that onto the one on the "L" bracket.... should fix ya up just fine! Use RG58A (B, or C) for the feedline. I plan on doing something like this for my 2-S except my whip will be along the vertical stab forward spar. The radials will go out along the horizontal stab and forward along the fuselage sides. Jim Hayward ------------------------------ End of krnet-l-digest V1 #133 *****************************