From: Majordomo@teleport.com[SMTP:Majordomo@teleport.com] Sent: Sunday, October 26, 1997 6:56 AM To: john bouyea Subject: Majordomo file: list 'krnet-l' file 'v01.n147' -- From: owner-krnet-l-digest@lists.teleport.com (krnet-l-digest) To: krnet-l-digest@lists.teleport.com Subject: krnet-l-digest V1 #147 Reply-To: krnet-l-digest Sender: owner-krnet-l-digest@lists.teleport.com Errors-To: owner-krnet-l-digest@lists.teleport.com Precedence: bulk krnet-l-digest Sunday, October 26 1997 Volume 01 : Number 147 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 21:22:51 -0500 From: "Mark Langford" Subject: KR: Re: Online Construction Manual Ross wrote: > I am setting up the disk on my PC to manage a website based online > construction manual. As we speak... I have divided the problem into > the following sections:.............. Sounds good to me. This is along the lines of what we were kicking around before. Like you said, for now you could pick out a section of somebody's page that has a lot of good info on a particular subject. One you didn't mention, and that I just happen to have waaaaay too much on, is forward and aft decks. You could use mine for that. I think I did a pretty exhaustive thing on spars too, but haven't gotten around to the rest of the wings yet, but will soon. I think it would be cool to have a page that pointed to URLs all over the world, so that each chapter would come from somewhere else... a sort of true Internet manual. But I'd keep a backup somewhere in case somebody evaporates like Gonzalez and Carlos did. And if KRNet has the diskspace, putting the whole thing there would be OK too. While I've got your attention, I'd like to say something about photography. It's really easy to get decent pictures with any old fully manual camera as long as it's on a tripod. You can get one cheap and using 400 ASA film, set the aperture to f/22 and shutter speed to about 1 second with normal shop lighting. I usually hold my flourescent shoplight close by to make sure things are evenly illuminated. Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL email at langford@hiwaay.net KR2S project construction at http://fly.hiwaay.net/~langford - ---------- > From: Ross > To: krnet-l@teleport.com > Subject: KR: Online Construction Manual > Date: Saturday, October 25, 1997 7:08 PM > > Mark, > I am setting up the disk on my PC to manage a website based online > construction manual. As we speak... I have divided the problem into > the following sections: > > Avionics > Canopy > Cockpit > Control System > Engine > Flight Testing > Fuel System > Fuselage > Gear&Brakes > Getting Started > Paperwork > VFR Instrumentation > Empenage > > > These should do for now I think. At first I think I will just post > links to others stuff, click on a section and see a list of resources > from KRNET members on that topic. Later, we can post a group edited > manual in .html or acroread format, one chapter per section... > > What do you think? > > If I'm lucky this page should be available online by the end of the > weekend. > > -- Ross ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 22:28:57 -0400 From: Robert Moreland Subject: Re: KR: new?, better? T4 vw conversion, gyro disk loads . BSHADR@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 97-10-20 16:05:56 EDT, Robert wrote: > > << I'm new to the group and am so glad to be in your cyber-company. I have > a KR under construction. Here is my concept for the prop hub to > convert the vw T4 for KR use. I have never heard of anyone using a > similar design and would appreciate your comments and additions to my > list of "advantages", "concerns" and "alternatives". >> > > > > Robert: > > Welcome aboard. Fresh meat for us to ravage is always appreciated... :-) > > You need to go surf a bit on the KR Websites. I think you'll find Steve > Bennett, Steve Wittman and some of the other VW nuts are working in this > direction. I have a jpg of Steve's design that I can send you if you are > interested. > > If I understand your approach correctly, my concern is the gyro disc loads > the extension will see and tansfer to the crank. Steve (and others in > satellite skunk works departments) are looking at a bell housing type of > extension to allow a nose pc additional bearing out at the prop to solve the > problem I mention. Weight increase is a consideration though. > > Don't let any of this stop the collective IQ pot from continuing to bubble. > We may just end up brewing a better VW adaptation. > > Randy Stein > BSHADR@aol.com > Soviet Monica, CA Thank for your comments. I have seen some of the postings showing projects that were using bell housings. Seems heavy to me. Does anyone out there know how to calculate the gyro disk load exerted on a prop hub bearing on a 1000 pound KR traveling at maneuvering speed? The real question is: How much structure is really needed to support a bearing at the prop hub? Of course one question leads to another: What is the manuevering speed of a KR? At what RPM would the engine be turning? What is the mass of typical KR prop? Where does the "center of radial mass lie"? Any real engineers out there? Sorry, I'm a chemist. Robert Moreland ranland@worldnet.att.net ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 21:37:22 -0500 From: "Mark Langford" Subject: KR: spar grain direction KRNetHeads, The May 96 issue of EAA's Experimentor deals with exactly this subject. It draws heavily from ANC-18. They show a picture of a log sawn up to yield various cuts, and go on to declare that the best modulus of elasticity is obtained from 90 degree "edge" grain (tree rings run horizontal in a spar cap when viewed from the wing tip) and therefore this is best for wing spars. They say that up to a 30 degree deviance from horizontal is acceptable. Maybe I'll scan this picture and put it out there, after I call EAA and make sure they don't care (which I suspect they don't since getting information out there is what they're all about. Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL email at langford@hiwaay.net KR2S project construction at http://fly.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 22:34:23 -0400 From: Patrick Flowers Subject: Re: KR: FIR Ross wrote: > > We had this thread before, FIR is heavier, but it is also stronger. > I think Don Reid had some good posts on the topic. I think the general > consensis is that it is OK to use FIR as a substitute for Spruce. Yep, get the EAA book and become your own wood inspector(good idea anyway as the guy cutting the wood is not the one with his butt in the airplane). I doubt grain orientation is a big deal for the fuselage, just get clear boards with no checks or cracks and rip what you need. For the spars, be more picky about the grain and be sure to alternate grain direction for your laminations. Patrick - -- Patrick Flowers Mailto:patri63@ibm.net ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 19:58:25 -0700 From: Ross Subject: KR: http://www.krnet.org The new KRNET.ORG webpage is up! I decided I really still like the "Frames" where the page is split into two. I'm putting important links on the left, but most everything will be duplicated in the main window eventually. We are lucky, I didn't have any 20 gauge mil spec wire, so I did some webpage work today. If anyone is interested, I have a "builders tips" page under construction. I plan to use the background at http://www.krnet.org/builders_guide/exploded.jpg I think I will build what's called an image map where if you click on the wing, you get a page dealing with building tips on the wing, if yo click on the engine, you get a page dealing with tips on the engine etc. The downside at the moment is that this image takes some time to download... however I think it still may be faster than the EAA webpage. So I will have a text based version too. Sooo. What we need is stuff to point to. I plan to point to things such as the nifty flight test material in the flight test section, nifty engine photos from the gathering in the engine section etc. At least that is the idea. What we need to do is to put together a builders tip guide by section, that can be consistantly updated by the KRNET community. On the Engine section for example, we should have VW, Soob, and Std Aircraft engines, along with materials sources, reduction drive successes etc.... Wings, we can have standard plans hints, then hotwiriring alternatives, and the wing skin options. We can make this the builders encylopedia. So go out, orginize some material, and if you don't have room for it on your website, or don't have a website, email it to me. I will try to be the coordinator of the mess. John Bouyea is that offer of disk space still good? This stuff probably could also be put on a CDROM for sale to support future efforts... Hmmm. BTW, I got in touch with OSHKOSH Personalizing. They will be faxing me back with the details on KR pins, I think we can have a KRNET pin made up with http://www.krnet.org on it. How about a KRNET T-shirt with the new "global" KRNET-L logo on it. I guess I need to check with Carlos to see what his logo design royalities are... however, all proceeds will go to support KRNET-L. - -- Ross ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 23:09:23 -0400 (EDT) From: TANDEM2@aol.com Subject: Re: KR: Retractable U/C hinge brackets right on, some things are getting out of hand, if someone says something that is different, why not ask what they mean, instead of trying to correct them? we need info, so some of you can get on with your building and the rest can stock pile this info till we are ready. we all have a common goal here, to share info and to build the best KR we can. enough said thanks tandem2 in holding ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 23:16:22 -0400 From: Patrick Flowers Subject: Re: KR: Unused Plans for sale John F. Esch wrote: > > What would a reasonable offer for the O-200 C? The only problem I see > that is was a GPU engine and what mods would needed to be done? I believe that you would need intake, carb and exhaust system. Also, since it's a GPU engine, it's single ignition. Otherwise, I think it's identical to aviation model. Patrick - -- Patrick Flowers Mailto:patri63@ibm.net ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 21:47:15 -0700 From: Micheal Mims Subject: Re: KR: new?, better? T4 vw conversion, gyro disk loads . At 10:28 PM 10/25/97 -0400, Robert Moreland wrote: I have seen some of the postings showing projects that were using bell housings. Seems heavy to me. Does anyone out there know how to calculate the gyro disk load exerted on a prop hub bearing on a 1000 pound KR traveling at maneuvering speed? Weight is not an issue as it is as light as the accessory system being used on type 1s (Bellhousing weighs less than two pounds) and it will replace that system. Other answers no,no and no. :o) Buy a Continental! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Micheal Mims Just Plane Nutts in Irvine Ca. mailto:mikemims@pacbell.net http://home.pacbell.net/mikemims ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 00:59:00 -0400 (EDT) From: Krwr1@aol.com Subject: KR: KR Page Addition I am still looking for anyone who is interested to send their pictures to my Webmaster of their KR and other Biographical information they might want on my page. If you want more information about this, please E-Mail my Webmaster at: simkinsn@valunet.com Also my homepage is almost done being remodeled, so check that out also at: http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Lab/3050/ Thanks. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 22:01:31 -0700 From: Micheal Mims Subject: Re: KR: Unused Plans for sale At 11:16 PM 10/25/97 -0400, Patrick Flowers wrote: >John F. Esch wrote: >> >> What would a reasonable offer for the O-200 C? The only problem I see >> that is was a GPU engine and what mods would needed to be done? > >I believe that you would need intake, carb and exhaust system. Also, >since it's a GPU engine, it's single ignition. Otherwise, I think it's >identical to aviation model. Also some of the Contenetal GPUs had cylinders with intake ports on top of the jug instead of the bottom. So just about any intake system would have to be home-built. This isn't necessarily a bad thing. A friend looked for GPU cylinders for his O-200 specifically for the top intake ports. He added fuel injection and a turbo like the newer O-240. Looks cool and will make his Tailwind scream Im sure! Mark Langford go buy this engine, and do the same! A turbo O-200 in a KR2!!! Woo Hoo!! Mike "KR290 in progress" Mims! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Micheal Mims Just Plane Nutts in Irvine Ca. mailto:mikemims@pacbell.net http://home.pacbell.net/mikemims ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 03:33:18 -0600 From: ejanssen@chipsnet.com (Ed Janssen) Subject: Re: KR: Posa Carbs >Rick, If you want to get rid of the Posa, please let me know. Is it a >Super-Posa? Do you have the extra needles? > >I'm been flying for 5 years and my Dad since 1984 with the Posa and NO >proplems with the Posa. Sure I have thought about going to a different type >carb but the Posa has been good to us. I wondered if I changed carbs if I >would get more power but with the Posa - it is KISS. > > Bobby Muse(N122B) > bmuse@mindspring.com > Wimberly, TX Bobby, Just curious if you've experienced the infamous ol' VW "hiccup" while using the POSA? A lot of the "older" guys (have to include myself, I guess :-) ) running POSAs used to get the hiccup once or twice during an hour flight or more. Those that were running turbos didn't seem to get it. Theory was that the turbo tends to smooth out the air flow which was a suspect. You're running a normally aspirated engine, right? Ed Janssen ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 03:51:49 -0600 From: ejanssen@chipsnet.com (Ed Janssen) Subject: Re: KR: Taking pictures >While I've got your attention, I'd like to say something about photography. > It's really easy to get decent pictures with any old fully manual camera >as long as it's on a tripod. You can get one cheap and using 400 ASA film, >set the aperture to f/22 and shutter speed to about 1 second with normal >shop lighting. I usually hold my flourescent shoplight close by to make >sure things are evenly illuminated. > > >Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL If you intend on taking shop pictures of your project for us netters to see and for your construction album, take the guesswork out of it by bringing the topic up at the next EAA meeting or ask a photographer friend down the street who will have a light meter. Most photographer types would jump at the chance to give you a short course on camera settings for your particular camera and lighting situation. Ed Janssen ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 04:02:22 -0700 From: Robert Covington Subject: Re: KR: Taking pictures >>While I've got your attention, I'd like to say something about photography. >> It's really easy to get decent pictures with any old fully manual camera >>as long as it's on a tripod. You can get one cheap and using 400 ASA film, >>set the aperture to f/22 and shutter speed to about 1 second with normal >>shop lighting. I usually hold my flourescent shoplight close by to make >>sure things are evenly illuminated. >> >> >>Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL > >If you intend on taking shop pictures of your project for us netters to see >and for your construction album, take the guesswork out of it by bringing >the topic up at the next EAA meeting or ask a photographer friend down the >street who will have a light meter. Most photographer types would jump at >the chance to give you a short course on camera settings for your particular >camera and lighting situation. > >Ed Janssen The method Mark outlines above should work fine without any potentially cranky EAA types having to show up in your space (hey, I could qualify there:). The key is having that 400 speed or better film if you are taking the pics indoors using normal light, and having that tripod so you don't get blur from camera shake. I just poked around the room with my camera and if there is a fairly bright light, you can get away with 1/4 second...But this is if what you are shooting is close to the light. Otherwise, that 1 second should do you right. Mark has been doing photography for a long time, and I've been doing it for almost ten years. I don't claim this to mean that I know what I am talking about as the gospel. But I shoot a lot of film generally (24 rolls at Perry for example) so I have some experience. I think Mark has been shooting pics since he was a pup. It doesn't matter how good your pictures are though, in my opinion, if you go ahead and decimate the scans with too much JPEG compression later...(or stick them to just 256 colors with GIF) This is a common problem I see on the WWW and some netter sites. I would rather visit a page that uses thumbnails for selecting individual pictures that aren't so compressed rather than loading a fast page with full size pictures that are too compressed (Blocky/fuzzy with all the details wiped). Not really whining too bad I hope, Robert Covington ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 04:38:15 PST From: "Oscar Zuniga" Subject: KR: Testing spars to failure >Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 09:32:06 -0700 >To: krnet-l@teleport.com, krnet-l@teleport.com >From: Micheal Mims >Subject: Re: KR: Doug Fir II >Reply-To: krnet-l@teleport.com > >At 08:40 AM 10/25/97 PDT, Oscar Zuniga wrote: >>Hey, Micheal- >> >>Can we make a bonfire at Chino with the broken fir from the tests? >> >>Oscar >> >I don't think the airport manager would like that very much! I think it >would be nice to hang it up on display in the hanger after its broken! :o) >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >Micheal Mims > Why would the airport manager care about some burning spars any more than he would have cared if you trailered your WHOLE KR over there and torched the thing due to spar cap grain being wrong? I can see the headline now: "EXPERIMENTAL BUILDER CRACKS, BURNS HOBBY AIRCRAFT AT AIRPORT". Picture would show you on the ramp, sloshing RR resin wildly all over the place, and with a BIC lighter clenched in your teeth. Witnesses will say that the only recognizable remnants from the fire are some oil-impregnated bronze bushings, faintly bearing the tradename O*LITE. But hey- I think everybody would be keenly interested in the ultimate loading on that spar. Can you build a couple, and use different grain orientation on the caps, and use a couple different woods? OK, OK- I'll quit! Oscar ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 16:56:57 +-200 From: Kobus de Wet Subject: RE: KR: Retractable U/C hinge brackets Apologies accepted. Short fused, gave up smoking 15/10/97 Kobus - ---------- From: Ross[SMTP:rossy@teleport.com] Sent: 26 October, 1997 02:21 To: krnet-l@teleport.com Subject: Re: KR: Retractable U/C hinge brackets Kobus, My apolgies... It took me a while to decode U/C into "landing gear" my brain kept coding U/C to R/C (radio control). So I thought that others who were up at 1:00AM might need the translation. It was late, and I apologize for the posting. -- Regards Ross Kobus de Wet wrote: > > Ross, > For reasons of simplicity in South Africa we use the term Under Carriage > (U/C) for both fixed and retractable, as very few commercial or military > aircraft today still have fixed U/C. You must bear in mind that we not only > have to put up with American Daftness, we also have French, English, > German, Italian and lately also Russian Terminology. As the first > commercial and military aircraft we came into contact with were British we > took on their terminology as the standard and stuck to it. The American > terminology is definitely in the minority as almost all the other countries > mentioned above use a system very close to the British system. Sorry about > all this but the original reason for the letter regarding the cracked hinge > bracket were for reasons of safety and to inform other KR-2 owners and > operators of a problem that I found on my aircraft. I do not recall asking > for a lecture on the aircraft terminology as used in the USA. > > Thanks Kobus > > Kobus, > I think this was one of the reasons that the Retract Gear has lost > ground to the fixed gear or Under Carrage (U/C for those who drive on > the left.) > > -- Ross > > Kobus de Wet wrote: > > > > The reason that ZS-WPX has not been airborne yet is because I found two > of > > the three U/C hinge brackets cracked. These are the brackets that > attaches > > to the U/C beam and rotates around the bolt in the bracket against the > > spar. > > Both these brackets are castings of very poor quality. There is no way > that > > I can determine if these brackets came from RR (USA) or from a local > > supplier that was dealing out of Lanseria Airport (Pretoria area) > > The bottom line is it does not matter where these come from, what does > > matter is that all builders and operators should have a good look at > their > > U/C hinges. > > The cracks runs through the outer two holes in the brackets. > > > > Its hell to get those bracket out of there. Making up a set out of 4130 > > > > Kobus (might be flying soon) de Wet > > > > South Africa > > -- > > Ross Youngblood Pager: (800)SKY-PAGE > PIN#895-9073 > Staff Technical Specialist voicemail: (800)538-6838 x > 1632 > Schlumberger SABER Bus Line: (541)714-1754 (Note Area code) > Corvallis,Oregon Mailto:rossy@San-Jose.ate.slb.com > > Name: WINMAIL.DAT > WINMAIL.DAT Type: unspecified type (application/octet-stream) > Encoding: x-uuencode ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 17:38:28 +0200 From: "PIERRE & ANTON FOUCHE'" Subject: KR: Fw: RE HAPI Engines - ---------- > > > > Hi Bobby > > > > Thanks for the offer for the specs from your dad. > > > > YES PLEASE !!! A copy will be much appreciated. > > Sorry the reply is so long in coming , I've been all > > over the country but home this week. > > > > Regards > > Anton Fouche' (ZS-UUJ) > > P-I-F@pixie.co.za > > Johannesburg, South Africa > > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 17:39:11 +0200 From: "PIERRE & ANTON FOUCHE'" Subject: KR: Fw: RE:- New?,better?,T4 VW Conversion > > > > Hi Randy > > > > Bit of a late responce > > > > Please send me the JPG of Steve's design > > Thanks > > > > Regards > > Anton Fouche' (ZS-UUJ) > > P-I-F@Pixie.co.za > > Johannesburg, South Africa > > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 10:58:07 -0800 From: rahuman@swbell.net Subject: Re: KR: Unused Plans for sale Patrick Flowers wrote: > > John F. Esch wrote: > > > > What would a reasonable offer for the O-200 C? The only problem I see > > that is was a GPU engine and what mods would needed to be done? > > I believe that you would need intake, carb and exhaust system. Also, > since it's a GPU engine, it's single ignition. Otherwise, I think it's > identical to aviation model. > > Patrick > -- > Patrick Flowers > Mailto:patri63@ibm.net Approach this with open eyes - if it is a PC-60 it's really about 70hp. Needs a new cam to make more hp. Drilled for one spark plug and the intake is mounted on top of cylinders. Different case - bed mount - crankshaft has one hole offset to prevent mounting a prop - all can be fixed but takes time. Have one stuck aside in the shop - but have a friend converting one now. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 08:55:20 -0800 From: Micheal Mims Subject: KR: Forward from VW list This from Spud Spornitz, Editor of the Dragonfly Newsletter, Spud is a good guy and is very hip to the internet, he actually doesn't mind if someone reposts portions of his newsletters as long as credit is given to the original author, especially in the name of safety!! I have seen his work and recommend any newsletter he publishes! To bad his way of thinking isn't shared by others! PS He almost became the new owner of the KR Newsletter, to bad we didn't get him! Subject: Re: "New" VW Aviation News.... Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 10:24:34 -0500 (EST) From: DBFNSPUD@aol.com Reply-To: "Auto and motorcycle to aviation engine conversions" To: Multiple recipients of list vw I'd like to take a moment to inform everyone of a new newsletter that I'm publishing called "VW Aviation News". Hi Everyone, my Name is Spud Spornitz of Olathe, Kansas. I've been publishing several experimental aviation newsletters since 1990. Over the last couple of years, people familiar with the work that we've done with the Dragonfly, Quickie and GP-4 groups have requested me to do a newsletter for the VW community as a whole, something for the VW aviation engine user/enthusiast. We started the newsletter just after this years Sun N' Fun and the subscriber base is at 240 already and is growing weekly. We are going to publish five times this year and then we'll do six in 1998 (every other month). The subscription fee for 1997 is $16.00 (5 issues) in the US, $18.00 in Canada and $22.00 overseas. We've published 3 issues so far this year which everyone will automatically receive when subscribing to the newsletter for 1997. For those wanting to join us, may do so by sending their checks (personal checks OK as long as they are drawn on an US bank) or money order to: Bill Spornitz, 1112 East Layton Drive, Olathe, Kansas 66061-2936. Of course your satisfaction with the newsletter will always be 100% guaranteed, at any time that your not happy with the newsletter, we'll cheerfully refund any unused portion of your subscription. Also do you have something that would be of interest to the group? Photo's? How to's, How not to's? Please submit it to the above address. If anyone has additional questions on the newsletter they can contact me right here at dbfnspud@aol.com or they can contact by phone in the evenings after 7:00 CST or weekends at (913) 397-0518, I'll be glad to talk to you. Whether your VW powered aircraft type is "Low and Slow" or "High and Fast" VW Aviation News has something for everyone. So if your a VW aviation user or fan please join us ! Also we would appreciate it if you pass on the word about the newsletter to other VW powered aircraft people than may or may not be On-line. Very Best Regards, Spud Spornitz ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Micheal Mims Just Plane Nutts in Irvine Ca. mailto:mikemims@pacbell.net http://home.pacbell.net/mikemims ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 08:58:44 -0800 From: Micheal Mims Subject: Re: KR: Testing spars to failure At 04:38 AM 10/26/97 PST, Oscar Zuniga wrote: >I can see the headline now: "EXPERIMENTAL BUILDER CRACKS, BURNS HOBBY AIRCRAFT AT AIRPORT". Picture would show you on the ramp, sloshing RR resin wildly all over the place, and with a BIC lighter clenched in your teeth. Witnesses will say that the only recognizable remnants from the fire are some oil-impregnated bronze bushings, faintly bearing the tradename O*LITE. > Somethings wrong! I am starting to like this thread! :o) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Micheal Mims Just Plane Nutts in Irvine Ca. mailto:mikemims@pacbell.net http://home.pacbell.net/mikemims ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 19:53:16 +0200 From: "PIERRE & ANTON FOUCHE'" Subject: KR:- Engines & other Stuff. Hi All I'm looking for a willing volenteer. I would appreciate it if anyboby in the USA can buy copies of the following and DHL them to me if I wire them the money. 1.) Sportplane Builder (Tony Bengelis) 2.) Firewall Forward (Tony Bengelis) On anouther note has anybody found somebody willing to part with a copy of "HOW TO BUILD A RELIABLE AIRCRAFT ENGINE" . Lets not have so many "SENSE OF HUMOUR FAILURES" Thanks agains Cheers Anton Fouche' P-I-F@pixie.co.za Ps:- For you Kobus P-R-O-V-I-N-C-E!!!!!!! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 11:45:18 -0800 From: Ross Subject: KR: Online manual tips. & Photography Mark Langford wrote: > > But I'd keep a backup somewhere in > case somebody evaporates like Gonzalez and Carlos did. And if KRNet has > the diskspace, putting the whole thing there would be OK too. > I'm looking at placing the data both on KRnet, and building a CDROM with all the information on it. > While I've got your attention, I'd like to say something about > photography. It's really easy to get decent pictures with any > old fully manual camera as long as it's on a tripod. > You can get one cheap and using 400 ASA film, set the aperture > to f/22 and shutter speed to about 1 second with normal > shop lighting. I usually hold my flourescent shoplight close by > to make sure things are evenly illuminated. You are right about this. However, I usually buy a $12.00 cardboard camera, and take really bad shots. When I was in Junior High & High school, I was really into photography, and developed my own movie productions etc. I had fill and key lights, and tripods. All of that stuff is long gone. And... are you saying I take bad pictures? I resemble that remark. (You will see more bad pictures of my project soon..) - -- Ross ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 12:42:41 -0700 From: jscott.pilot@juno.com (Jeffrey E Scott) Subject: Re: KR: Wicks $5.00 fuel cap On Sat, 25 Oct 1997 17:18:43 -0700 Ross writes: >Larry, > > If these are the nifty industrial caps with the knurled flanges. >I've got three of them, and Norm put them on his Firebird. He >noted that the thickness of the flange was about 1" more than he >needed so he cut the flanges down to save weight. With my foam tanks >the thickness was just about right. I don't remember if mine were >the $5.00 flavor, but I bought them from Wicks. > > > -- Ross I've got three of these mounted on my KR. I really like them with the exception that all three of them leak water into the tanks past the gaskets if the plane sits out. I'm going to try replacing the gaskets with o-rings to see if that will solve the problem. Of course, I also don't normally leave the plane out in the weather, so it may take a year or so to tell if it works. Jeff " 90% satisfied with these fuel caps" Scott - ------- Jeff Scott - Los Alamos, NM jscott.pilot@juno.com See N1213W construction and first flight at http://fly.hiwaay.net~langford/kjefs.html & http: //www.thuntek.net/~jeb/krpage.htm ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 12:09:51 -0800 From: Ross Subject: Re: KR: Fw: RE HAPI Engines Anton, I'm sorry, I didn't offer to copy Rex Taylor's book. If you had a specific question I could look it up and send you the information. Copies of the book are still available through Aircraft Spruce. I have to be careful about giving away copies of things still in print... (sorry). I felt bad about this so I went looking to find it in the ACS and Wicks catalog... it is not available from ACS, but Wicks carries it. PG 147 P/N RT-1 Price $20.00 (USD) "How to build a reliable VW engine" This book includes case S/N's acceptable for engine use if you plan on scrounging a case. However as Rex says in the book, you can end up spending $$$ on a case that is no good, and might be better off buying new components. I have first hand experience with this after buying an engine for $125 in '90 and finding it was too far gone for align boring (1 oversize). - -- Ross - -- Ross PIERRE & ANTON FOUCHE' wrote: > > ---------- > > > > > > Hi Bobby > > > > > > Thanks for the offer for the specs from your dad. > > > > > > YES PLEASE !!! A copy will be much appreciated. > > > Sorry the reply is so long in coming , I've been all > > > over the country but home this week. > > > > > > Regards > > > Anton Fouche' (ZS-UUJ) > > > P-I-F@pixie.co.za > > > Johannesburg, South Africa > > > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 12:11:12 -0800 From: Ross Subject: KR: [Fwd: BOUNCE krnet-l@lists.teleport.com: Non-member submission from [brian whatcott ]] This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - --------------99DD574EBA5F4FA9C6780A43 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit - --------------99DD574EBA5F4FA9C6780A43 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: owner-krnet-l@lists.teleport.com Received: (from daemon@localhost) by smtp1.teleport.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) id IAA11797; Sun, 26 Oct 1997 08:18:14 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 08:18:14 -0800 (PST) From: owner-krnet-l@teleport.com Message-Id: <199710261618.IAA11797@smtp1.teleport.com> To: owner-krnet-l@teleport.com Subject: BOUNCE krnet-l@lists.teleport.com: Non-member submission from [brian whatcott ] >From krnet-l-owner Sun Oct 26 08:18:10 1997 Received: from intellisys.net (intellisys.net [205.228.199.20]) by smtp1.teleport.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA11778 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 1997 08:18:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from dialup140.intellisys.net (dialup140.intellisys.net [205.228.199.140]) by intellisys.net (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA25745 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 1997 10:18:03 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.19971026111756.2f1f1e0c@mail.intellisys.net> X-Sender: inet@mail.intellisys.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (16) Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 11:17:56 -0600 To: krnet-l@teleport.com From: brian whatcott Subject: Re: DFLY: Book In-Reply-To: <34537436.51D6@cnetech.com> References: <2.2.32.19971024043450.00725cb4@mail.gte.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Gee, it's been exceptionally quiet lately, or did I get accidentally bumped? I saw this note from Pat Panzera on Dragon list. Thought you might be interested. - ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Something really cool happened the other night. As you may recall, a few weeks ago I asked you all where I could find the regs. concerning the licensing of my DF project. Well, the other night, I wandered into my local flight center and was greeted with, "Hey Pat, someone left a book here for you". It's called "Amateur-Built evaluation and Certification ref. Material" It's published by the U.S. Department of Transportation, Federal Aviation Administration. It's about 5/8" thick of 8-1/2x11 pages stapeled togehter and has TONS of info in it. On the cover someone wrote "For Panzera", and I got NO clue who may have done this. They didn't recognize him. But who ever it was, THANKS!!! Pat brian whatcott Altus OK - --------------99DD574EBA5F4FA9C6780A43-- ------------------------------ End of krnet-l-digest V1 #147 *****************************