From: owner-krnet-l-digest@teleport.com[SMTP:owner-krnet-l-digest@teleport.com] Sent: Thursday, February 05, 1998 5:59 PM To: krnet-l-digest@teleport.com Subject: krnet-l-digest V2 #32 krnet-l-digest Thursday, February 5 1998 Volume 02 : Number 032 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 03 Feb 1998 22:43:29 -0800 From: Ross Youngblood Subject: Re: KR: My wood has arrived smithr wrote: > I found it very handy in doing the fuse sides to work in sections. Put > in the 2 verticals and let epoxy harden. Then put in the diagonals etc. > Otherwise, everything slides around on you and you need about 5 hands. I > did this mostly on commercials while watching television over about 2 > weeks time. I used a similar staged building process, howver I used offset dowels to old the verticals in place, so I could do as many as I wanted at one time. I did all the verticals first, then the diagnoals, and while I was working the aft end, I was building gussets for the fore end. The good news is that there are plenty of gussets to go around. -- Ross ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Feb 1998 05:38:06 -0600 From: Bobby Muse Subject: Re: KR: Alternator Re-wiring. At 03:33 PM 1/28/98 EST, you wrote: >Bobby, I believe you started something here. I'm with Mike, how do we go >about re-wiring these accessory case alternators? How small a wire do we use, >how many loops? I'm all for having to use a regulator, more gizmos are neat. >I'm game, since my case is at Rimco right now. > >Dana Overall >Richmond, KY >kr2616tj@aol.com >http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/7085/ > I wish I could tell but this is a area that someone with the engineering experience would able offer you better advice than I can. I could make some guesses but it only be a guess. I know there is a engineer out there somewhere... Bobby Muse(N122B) bmuse@mindspring.com Wimberly, TX ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Feb 1998 06:01:00 -0600 From: Bobby Muse Subject: Re: KR: Nuts & Bolts (was Back to work) At 12:20 AM 1/29/98 -0800, you wrote: >Bobby Muse wrote: >> Note: Never use a Nylock type nut on a bolt that has been drilled to accept >> a cotter pin. You may destroy the self-locking abilities of the nut. > >I think that there is some room to argue this point. This assumes that >the drilled hole in the shank has some burrs on it that would gouge >the nylon insert. I think Tony Bengelis discusses this a bit in his >books. It is also recommended to use your nylock nuts only once then >discard. I used to have some nuts used just for "test fittings", >then brought out brand new ones after doing the trial assemblies. > >I think that if you can finger tighten the nut, it is toast. Otherwise, >I think there is some room for re-using the nuts (depending on >application area). In most cases, if I'm worried enough about this >I think I would put a castillated nut/cotter pin assembly. > > -- Ross > Ross, You are exactly right! Bobby Muse(N122B) bmuse@mindspring.com Wimberly, TX ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Feb 1998 04:48:57 PST From: "Oscar Zuniga" Subject: KR: Archives on CD-ROM Hello, netters I need some opinions (privately, please!- don't post to krnet-l!) as I am going to put the KRNet archives on CD-ROM from beginning up through end of 1997, minus the "lost" volumes (anybody have them?). These will be made available to KRNet subscribers for a small charge to cover cost of disk plus mailing; I figure about $10 tops, and will probably just go ahead and turn any excess over my cost of blank CDs to KRNet for operations expenses. I have found several search engines to embed on the CD, but I would like to know preferences on platform: DOS, Win 3.X, or Win 95. My thought is to use a DOS-based engine so that everybody, everywhere can use it, but a Win platform is a bit more suave. Opinions, please; if I get 3 or more DOS users responding, I'll proceed with the DOS-based search engine. Thanks Oscar Zuniga Medford, Oregon ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Feb 1998 13:23:27 EST From: KR2616TJ@aol.com Subject: KR: Engine Paint. This is great, they were calling for a "dusting" of snow last night but missed it by a little. We had 9" this morning and they expect another foot today. The great thing is my engine arrived from Rimco yesterday. They did some fabulous machine work. Here's the question, has anybody found a good engine paint that will hold up on these VW cases? I want to paint the entire engine a bright blue or red with black intakes and exhaust, the black is already taken care of. For those of you out there who are still taking pilot training I'll throw my two cents worth in of the certification process. I paid all the money down up front and then flew off this account. I flew as often as my CFI would allow and was able to get my ticket in just under 3 months. I took my practice check ride at 37.60 hrs. and flew another 1 hr that day. Two days later on my check ride day, I flew .9 hrs so that I would be over 40 hrs for the examiner, 40.2 to be exact. My check ride was exactly 1 hr. Am I a better pilot because of this? Absolutely not! I was simply lucky to find a good CFI who I, to this day, consider to be the smoothest pilot I have ever flown with. Of course, now he's left seat L-1011 and I've been able to fly jump seat with him X/C twice. It's like what they say, it's like driving a bus. What's the moral to this story, if you can, fly as much, as often as you can, that way you don't have to go back and re-learn things and you are able to keep that feel. Don't take this wrong, I'm one of those guys who looks the other way when someone boasts about his own flying expertise. I'll be the one smiling and giggling as I bounce my KR down the runway at this years gathering and then asking "How in the world do you land these things?". Dana Overall Richmond, KY kr2616tj@aol.com http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/7085/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Feb 1998 12:12:05 PST From: "Oscar Zuniga" Subject: KR: Pilot training- again Dana wrote: >I paid all the money down up >front and then flew off this account. I flew as often as my CFI would allow >and was able to get my ticket in just under 3 months. This is exactly what I did, too. Problem is, not everybody can afford to do it. I had it paid for by company! It is really nice to do it in a blast, going up every day then studying the books at nite, taking the written right away, etc. etc. Plus, with the money up front, there is more incentive to use it and keep flying. I went through a lot of shirts, though- sure gets your back wet when you're getting the CFI shaking the stick at you cuz you let your feet "go to sleep" on that last x-wind landing... or you just flew the pattern with the flaps down and carb heat on! Oscar ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Feb 1998 15:20:40 -0500 From: Tom Andersen Subject: KR: Anyone ever heard of a Cowley prop? BSHADR@aol.com wrote: > > KRNetheads: > > FYI, this came across the quickie list. Enjoy... > > Randy Stein > BSHADR@aol.com > Soviet Monica, CA > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > Subj: RE: Q-LIST: Propellers > Date: 98-02-02 10:48:13 EST > From: cash@littongcs.com (Cash, Gene) > > I have a brand new Cowley prop that was original equipment for the > Revmaster. I will be using an O-200 so I can't use it. Any offers? > > Gene Cash Hello KR Skunk Works! Anyone ever heard of a Cowley prop? Would it be ok to cut a 56"D x 45" prop to 54"D or 52"Diameter? Would the pitch still be the same? - -Tom ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Feb 1998 14:35:15 -0600 (CST) From: Steven A Eberhart Subject: KR: Re: Europa_Mail: Introduction (fwd) Passing this along from the Europa mail list. Good food for thought with several birds that are getting ready to take flight this summer. Steve Eberhart, Evansville, IN newtech@newtech.com - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 4 Feb 1998 19:53:51 GMT From: Mark Talbot To: europa@avnet.co.uk Subject: Re: Europa_Mail: Introduction Barry You wrote: > The whole issue revolves around >whether the Europa can be operated from a 280 meter (hedge to hedge) farm >strip. I speak from experience when I say that the Europa is capable of operating from 300 mtr grass most of the time one up. The snag, as I discovered, comes when something is not quite right and you have failed to detect it. There is absolutely no room for error and, at a certain stage of either takeoff or landing, you are committed and there is no room to change your mind. Last October I was attempting to take off from my 300m grass strip after 40 hours and many other successful flights from the same strip. The conditions were as near perfect as possible and everything appeared to be normal until I rotated. There was insufficient power from the engine to push the aeroplane rapidly into the air after lifting the tail and it stalled a few feet above the ground, level with the end of the strip. It dropped a wing and cartwheeled into the adjoining field. I escaped virtually unhurt but the plane was a write-off. Why did it happen? I failed to detect that the engine was not developing absolute full power - and it needed this to fly out safely. Maybe it was just 100 rpm off the top - but that was all it needed to turn a safe take-off into disaster. When I did realize that it wasn't really going to fly, there was no room to stop - or to do anything else, for that matter! There was only time to shout "Oh s--t!" Graham Singleton summed it up very accurately. And the truth is that there is simply no room for error. If you are lucky you will never need that room - - but...but...but...but. My advice has to be, find yourself a longer strip! Mark Talbot (starting all over again!) ______________________________________________________________________ The Europa List is supported by Aviators Network UK - info@avnet.co.uk ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Feb 1998 18:27:52, -0500 From: YCGB97A@prodigy.com (MR JEAN R VERON) Subject: Re: KR: Kitplanes Articles Brian It' because we live in Oklahoma and they still come by stace coach. Jean N4DD Broken Arrow, OK ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Feb 1998 17:56:55 -0700 From: Ron Lee Subject: Re: KR: Jeff Scott At 10:28 PM 2/3/98 -0800, you wrote: >Jeb, > Thanks for keeping us posted! > My wife just injured her back last week, and had some MRI scans this week, >nasty stuff... > Hope to see Jeff this year at the KR gathering, if not... I will have to >swing by >NM to visit him myself. > -- Regards > Ross Hopefully Jeff's surgery will result in him being better than before....not that he was in any way deficient of course. Ross..plan on flying into Jeff's airport anyway.... you might find it to be very interesting. However, get Jeff's recommendations first. I would suggest some high altitude landings and take-offs at a nearby "flatland" field before you go to his strip. Ron Lee ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Feb 1998 17:26:43 -0800 From: Douglas Dorfmeier Subject: Re: KR: FYI - Wood prop repair service Micheal Mims wrote: > > At 07:15 PM 2/3/98 -0800, you wrote: > >What top RPM are you running your prop? > >I attended to use an EA81 engine with a 2.2:1 > >reduction that mean my top prop speed will be about > >2500 RPMs. > > > > That was forwarded from the Qlist, I am sure Randy has no idea about the > particulars. > > You plan to run a 2.2 to 1 reduction on a KR? I don't think you will ever > see the prop RPM needed for performance. > > Eric Clutton's book says prop tip speed should be almost supersonic at take > off and just under that at cruise. You would need to turn a 95 inch prop to > get into those parameters! I think you need to consider a 1.5 to 1 ratio > because a 60 inch prop is about the max for a KR. But thats just what I > think! :o) > > PS The great Ray Hegy recommends this book! > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Micheal Mims > Oh My,.......Its 1998!! > > mailto:mikemims@pacbell.net > http://home.pacbell.net/mikemims Mike, Thanks for the response. I am wondering if would help to use a three-blade variable pitch prop. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Feb 1998 22:49:48, -0500 From: YCGB97A@prodigy.com (MR JEAN R VERON) Subject: Re: KR: engine mount I have a standard engine mount and KR-2 Cowling for sale $100.00 each. Jean Veron N4DD Broken Arrow, OK ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Feb 1998 22:55:18 -0600 From: "Pdrdean" Subject: KR: Re: Archives on CD-ROM Oscar; Great idea! I bet if you polled people you would find that by far (>95%), the majority of people are using a Win - based platform. Keep me posted when you get this together - I'd be interested in getting a copy from you. Dean - -----Original Message----- From: Oscar Zuniga To: krnet-l@teleport.com Date: Wednesday, February 04, 1998 6:49 AM Subject: KR: Archives on CD-ROM >Hello, netters > >I need some opinions (privately, please!- don't post to krnet-l!) as I >am going to put the KRNet archives on CD-ROM from beginning up through >end of 1997, minus the "lost" volumes (anybody have them?). These will >be made available to KRNet subscribers for a small charge to cover cost >of disk plus mailing; I figure about $10 tops, and will probably just go >ahead and turn any excess over my cost of blank CDs to KRNet for >operations expenses. > >I have found several search engines to embed on the CD, but I would like >to know preferences on platform: DOS, Win 3.X, or Win 95. My thought is >to use a DOS-based engine so that everybody, everywhere can use it, but >a Win platform is a bit more suave. Opinions, please; if I get 3 or >more DOS users responding, I'll proceed with the DOS-based search >engine. > >Thanks > >Oscar Zuniga >Medford, Oregon > >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Feb 1998 23:11:26 EST From: MikeTnyc@aol.com Subject: KR: Battery alternatives (fwd) Saw this thread on a motorcycle list I'm on. Since the KR alternator seems comparable in power to some of the ones these bikes are using, I thought you might like to see the batteries they're experimenting with also. A sealed lead-acid motorcycle battery might be very nice on a KR if the right size could be found. It could be mounted in any direction and presumably would not need a battery box since nothing could come out. Mike Taglieri - ------------------------------------------------------------ Subj: Re: Battery alternatives (fwd) Date: 98-02-02 18:16:49 EST From: john@meertech.demon.co.uk (John Woodgate) Reply-to: noc-l@meertech.demon.co.uk To: noc-l@meertech.demon.co.uk Forwarded message follows: > Date: Sun, 01 Feb 1998 21:33:24 -0800 (PST) > From: "john.mead" > Subject: Re: Battery alternatives > To: noc-l@meertech.demon.co.uk, noc-l@meertech.demon.co.uk > Bob Wrote :- > > >A couple of years ago there was some talk about alternative batteries > >on Brit-Iron. Seems excessive to have 13AH batts to power up a Boyer. > >Dig-Key has some Panasonic lead-acid batteries, 5AH 3x4x4". They'er > >sealed, so maybe wrap it in foam? > > > > Bob Patton > > > I have used sealed lead acid batteries on my other bike ( a '53 Sunbeam S7 ) > for about three years now with absolute sucess. > I have never had the battery go flat and have just ignored it for the > winter layup time and it has been as good as new. > > The batteries I used are from an electronics / electrical company in the UK > and are made by Cyclon > They are 2volt ones and I connected 3 in series for my 6 volt system, > obviously you would need 6 for a 12volt bike. Mine are 5 Ah ones and are > approx 45mm dia x 80mm high with two push on connetions at the top. I tied > min together with cable ties and fixed them in the existing battery box with > foam round them. > They have never been out again and are projected to last at least 10 years > which makes up for the cost of approx 6.00 + tax each, as an aside the data > sheet says the max discharge is ~ 500Amps so you could probably start a > Commando on them < grin > if it starts that way at all ! > They can be mounted any way round so you can stack them to suit the battery > box / carrier arrangement, just watch the terminals touching things though > as they are extremely powerful for their size and could easily cause a fire > if shorted out. > > If anyone is interested and wants more details please email me direct and i > will send a scan of the catalogue info. > > > > Regards Angelo You can now get gel cell batteries from Yuasa. They are currently being used in GSXR Suzuki's (the battery lays at a 45 degree angle) and a lot of ATV's (they bounce around alot). You fill the battery, let it sit for @1/2 hour, put it on the battery charger to fully charge it, then place it in the motorcycle or ATV any way you want, even upside down. No leakage and it is compatible with your current charging system. One additional thing, these batteries seem to put out more power for their size. The GSXR's use a 9 or 11 amp battery and they have no problem starting a high compression 750cc motor. John Mead This is the Norton Owners Club mailing list. The NOC-L is unmoderated and the views expressed by contributors are their own and do not necessarily reflect any view or policy of the N.O.C. The NOC web page is at http://www.noc.co.uk/index.html. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Feb 1998 18:51:48 EST From: RFreibe131@aol.com Subject: KR: Engine Paint I discovered, somewhat by accident, the Krylon RUST TOUGH enamels hold up really well on engines. It's somewhat slow to dry, but is tough with a nice gloss. Also available in spray cans or brush types . Get it at K-mart, etcetra. I have it on an automobile engine which looks great after 3 years in service. Since then, I've used it in many applications. Ron Freiberger ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Feb 1998 22:24:31 -0800 From: "John Bouyea" Subject: KR: Re: KRnet-Archives I have a complete archive of all available KRNet digests found at: http://kr2s.timberline.com/krnet John Bouyea johnbouyea@worldnet.att.net kr2s - building the spars Hillsboro, Oregon - ---------- > From: Driessen, Marcel > To: KRNET Message > Subject: KR: KRnet-Archives > Date: Tuesday, February 03, 1998 7:25 AM > > > Since my harddisk is getting overfilled I have to delete part of my > e-mails. > Can someone tell me where I can find the KRnet-Archives and how to acces > them. > > Thanks > > Marcel Driessen > KR2S-Builder (boat on wheels) > Meerlo, Limburg, The Netherlands > e-mail: driessen@krohne.mhs.compuserve.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Feb 1998 18:24:49, -0500 From: YCGB97A@prodigy.com (MR JEAN R VERON) Subject: KR: Kitplanes Articles They got the cruise speed wrong on my plane along with my last name. I actually cruised 165 mph and that was what i had told them. Last name ( Vernon ) should have been Veron. We are poor folk and could not afford another " n ". Jean N4DD Broken Arrow, OK ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Feb 1998 18:21:30 EST From: KR2616TJ@aol.com Subject: KR: Engine Paint-Heat Buildup. Let me re-phrase my question. In light of the possibility of overheating the engine, does anybody know of anyone successfully painting a VW case? I'll be calling Steve Thurs. to order my new crank and I'll ask him also, but I'd like to get several opinions. Dana Overall Richmond, KY kr2616tj@aol.com http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/7085/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Feb 1998 12:14:53 PST From: "Oscar Zuniga" Subject: KR: Insurance/Auto engines Here's a post from the Airsoob list: >Taking the lead from this discussion I called Avemco about coverage of >homebuilt aircraft. I talked to Jim Nelson who is the writer for >homebuilts. >He told me that due to three engine out crashes, last year, of Soob >powered >homebuilts that Avemco will no longer provide hull insurance for the >first >100 hours. This policy applies to Soobs, and all other V-6 and V-8 aero >conversions and insurance coverage after 100 may not be available unless >the >engine was built by a commercial engine builder(such as Stratus). He said >that from their investigation the failures appear to be related to coil >failures. Seems that the coils quit when mounted in a high temperature >location, but that when these enginnes were retrieved from the accident >aircraft and placed on a test stand they ran just fine. > >VW engines (built by the commertial builders that Avemco recognizes)are >exempt in the 100 hour non-coverage policy. >=========== > >I have not been in this Soob discussion group for very long and was >unaware >of these incidents and their impact on Avemco's insurance. Any comments? > > >-- >Bruce A. Frank, Editor "Ford 3.8L Engine and V-6 STOL >BAFRANK@worldnet.att.net Homebuilt Aircraft Newsletter" > | Publishing interesting material| > | on all aspects of alternative | > | engines and homebuilt aircraft.| >*------------------------------**----* > \(-o-)/ AIRCRAFT PROJECTS COMPANY > \___/ Manufacturing parts & pieces > / \ for homebuilt aircraft, > 0 0 TIG welding > >While trying to find time to finish mine. > > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Feb 1998 04:13:02 PST From: "Oscar Zuniga" Subject: KR: Archives/CD-ROM Thanks for the replies from everyone. One major glitch: there are some Mac users among us. I will therefore work with Robert Covington to try to cook up a Mac version as well, although I'm totally in the dark when working with Macs. To all who responded: I have your names and will get back to you once the trial CD is done. We are changing our net server to NT Server with 8 gig drive, and should be all done and debugged in a few days. (Ha! Right!) Once clear of that, I will get started. To the skies again on Monday, weather permitting, to drag some tail and get some time with foggles, instructor, and "airspeed, turn and bank, and compass" work. Too easy to fly into a fogbank here in Oregon, and Super Cub has no instruments. Still waiting for March issue of Kitplanes at the newsstand. They have the Feb., but it may be two weeks yet. Oscar ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Feb 1998 05:06:45 -0800 From: Robert Covington Subject: KR: Re:Archives/CD-ROM/Kitplanes >Thanks for the replies from everyone. One major glitch: there are some >Mac users among us. I will therefore work with Robert Covington to try >to cook up a Mac version as well, although I'm totally in the dark when >working with Macs. Well maybe a glitch regarding KRNet users and the more common platform for the list (and pilots), but internetwide, Macintosh users make up about 40 percent of WWW/FTP users. :) I don't think there will be too much problem making things work for everyone here. Thanks for the open mind about it Oscar, and not shutting the Mac users out. Macromedia Director can easily make dual platform applications, however I am not sure how such a thing might mesh with the planned use here. Acrobat comes to mind perhaps, but again, might not be the best structure. Let me know of your approach once your multiple reinstalls of system software are done.I hope I jest. :) >done and debugged in a few days. (Ha! >Right!) >Still waiting for March issue of Kitplanes at the newsstand. They have >the Feb., but it may be two weeks yet. It is a good issue, and well worth it. Hope you can see it soon. Once again, you hear it is a plane that makes some people feel it is the most secure they have ever flown, and for others, a mighty nervous and unstable one. We need a KR One Design. Standard. Immutable. :) Rans S16 Shekari sure is nice. If you wreck one, is that Hari-Shekari? Robert Covington KR-2S Table Topped, Sided Once, and half again for # 2. Plywood to follow. Rancho Cucamonga,CA, USA t88@primenet.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Feb 1998 06:51:25 -0800 From: Micheal Mims Subject: Re: KR: Re:Archives/CD-ROM/Kitplanes At 05:06 AM 2/5/98 -0800, you wrote: >Well maybe a glitch regarding KRNet users and the more common platform for the list (and pilots), but internetwide, Macintosh users make up about 40 percent of WWW/FTP users. :) >>>> Yea right homer! I aint buying that bridge! 40%,...ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!!!!! (maybe 40% of the designers of web sites but not users) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Micheal Mims Oh My,.......Its 1998!! mailto:mikemims@pacbell.net http://home.pacbell.net/mikemims ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Feb 1998 12:37:22 -0500 From: smithr Subject: KR: New PIC I MADE IT!!! YAA HOO! Took my final flight test yesterday and passed. Luckily, the big storm hitting the northeast was held south of here by a strong cold front -- so I got to fly. It feels real good to have it over with and have that ticket. Its been a lifelong dream of mine to learn to fly. Now I can get down to the serious business of finishing my KR. My plan was: 1) learn to fly 2) build a KR2S. I'm half way there. Bob Smith, Albany, NY Cruisin' the skies with a smile on my face ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Feb 1998 11:51:18 EST From: Horn2004@aol.com Subject: Re: Re: KR: Re:Archives/CD-ROM/Kitplanes In a message dated 2/5/98 9:00:38 AM, you wrote: <> Actually, if you consider all the mutations available in operating systems designed for the PC market (WIN, WIN95, DOS, etc, etc. ad nauseam) and their respective market shares, MAC holds the largest market share of ANY operating system by a substantial margin. Just the facts, please! Steve Horn Dallas, TX Horn2004@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Feb 1998 12:33:27 EST From: KR2616TJ@aol.com Subject: Re: KR: New PIC In a message dated 98-02-05 11:39:18 EST, you write: << I MADE IT!!! YAA HOO! Took my final flight test yesterday and passed. >> Bob, congrats too you. Now just remember a couple of quotes, "Three things that do you no good are the altitude above you, the runway behind you and the fuel you should have bought". "The smart pilot is not the one who knows when to fly but the one who knows when not to fly" and of course "There are old pilot and there are bold pilots, but there are few old, bold pilots". Have a big time, and just like Top Gun, If you need someone to fly with you, I will. 18" of snow and it's still coming down. Dana Overall Richmond, KY kr2616tj@aol.com http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/7085/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Feb 1998 10:46:03 -0700 From: cartera@cuug.ab.ca Subject: Re: KR: New PIC smithr wrote: > > I MADE IT!!! YAA HOO! > > Took my final flight test yesterday and passed. Luckily, the big storm > hitting the northeast was held south of here by a strong cold front -- > so I got to fly. It feels real good to have it over with and have that > ticket. Its been a lifelong dream of mine to learn to fly. Now I can get > down to the serious business of finishing my KR. > > My plan was: 1) learn to fly 2) build a KR2S. > I'm half way there. > > Bob Smith, Albany, NY Cruisin' the skies with a smile on my face Congratulations Bob, it is a real accomplishment and you have reason to be proud. Remember, it is a license to learn more. ENJOY!!!! - -- Adrian VE6AFY cartera@cuug.ab.ca http://www.cuug.ab.ca/~cartera ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Feb 1998 15:06:25 -0500 From: "Richard Parker" Subject: KR: Re: New PIC - ---------- > From: smithr > To: krnet-l@teleport.com > Subject: KR: New PIC > Date: Thursday, February 05, 1998 12:37 PM > > I MADE IT!!! YAA HOO! > > Took my final flight test yesterday and passed. Luckily, the big storm > hitting the northeast was held south of here by a strong cold front -- > so I got to fly. It feels real good to have it over with and have that > ticket. Its been a lifelong dream of mine to learn to fly. Now I can get > down to the serious business of finishing my KR. > > My plan was: 1) learn to fly 2) build a KR2S. > I'm half way there. > > Bob Smith, Albany, NY Cruisin' the skies with a smile on my face Great Job. Now since you are only an hour away lets talk. I saw a great KR-2 on Monday thats been flying for over 10 years, was built per the original plans and outperforms most of these fancy mod's everybody throws up on the KR-Net. (155 kts cruise honest) My vote is to build per plans and keep it light. Send flames to: Rich Parker (waiting for spruce) Jaffrey, NH theparkers@monad.net ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Feb 1998 13:20:04 -0800 From: Ross Youngblood Subject: KR: New Members nifty information site Jim Pratt just joined the digest, and he has a terrific page containing a inspection checklist. Check it out! http://www.provide.net/~pratt/ambuilt/faqhmblt.htm - -- Regards Ross ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Feb 1998 13:22:48 -0800 From: Ross Youngblood Subject: KR: Kitplanes After tearing up the house looking for the March issue of Kitplanes, it occured to me that having a last name starting with "Y" might explain why I could not find the issue until it arrived in my mailbox yesterday. After reading all about the KR's and Perrykosh, I wanted to make a point of updateing the krnet.org website... it is overdue for some major posting updates... My computer is dead... Again. So I am sending this from work. Lucky for me, I can maintain the KRNET account through my ISDN internet link, but I don't normally like to do this as it is provided by my employer. Looks like I will be trading taildragger time for a new motherboard *UGH*. -- Ross ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Feb 1998 12:40:07 -0800 From: Ross Youngblood Subject: Re: KR: Engine Paint-Heat Buildup. Dana, I've painted my case white... I don't know about the heat issues yet, it hasn't been started. -- Ross KR2616TJ@aol.com wrote: > > Let me re-phrase my question. In light of the possibility of overheating the > engine, does anybody know of anyone successfully painting a VW case? > I'll be calling Steve Thurs. to order my new crank and I'll ask him also, but > I'd like to get several opinions. > > Dana Overall > Richmond, KY > kr2616tj@aol.com > http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/7085/ - -- Ross Youngblood Pager: (800)SKY-PAGE PIN#895-9073 Staff Technical Specialist voicemail: (800)538-6838 x 1632 Schlumberger SABER Bus Line: (541)714-1754 (Note Area code) Corvallis,Oregon Mailto:rossy@San-Jose.ate.slb.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Feb 1998 14:50:20 -0800 From: Micheal Mims Subject: KR: Progress? Well I took a day off from work today and made it out to the hanger. I finished the outer main spars, I used a table top plainer to cut the airfoil shape on the top and bottom caps and it worked pretty good. I glued all the vertical members inside the outer aft spar and did some foam and glass work on the elevator. Hopefully I can get the aft spars done and tapered by this Sunday, then I can spend most of next weekend installing the WAFs to the outer wings and cutting wing cores. It would be kinda cool to have the wings on and glassed on the top side for ChinoKosh, that way you guys could help me flip it over on its back!! Is Chinokosh still on for the 28th? Randy? Waz up? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Micheal Mims Building outer wings now mailto:mikemims@pacbell.net http://home.pacbell.net/mikemims Fax 714.856.9417 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Feb 1998 14:52:40 -0800 From: Micheal Mims Subject: Re: KR: Cabin heat At 10:36 PM 12/1/98 -0500, you wrote: > > Regards Dennis (in Toronto) > > Dennis your sending email from the future! Cool! (check out that date) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Micheal Mims Building outer wings now mailto:mikemims@pacbell.net http://home.pacbell.net/mikemims Fax 714.856.9417 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Feb 1998 14:54:03 -0800 From: Micheal Mims Subject: Re: KR: Re: New PIC At 03:06 PM 2/5/98 -0500, you wrote: > >My vote is to build per plans and keep it light. > > >Send flames to: >Rich Parker If you want a nice single place airplane that's not a bad plan at all! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Micheal Mims Building outer wings now mailto:mikemims@pacbell.net http://home.pacbell.net/mikemims Fax 714.856.9417 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Feb 1998 15:16:26 -0800 From: Ross Youngblood Subject: KR: [Fwd: e-mail] This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - --------------695678E213728473500F9F30 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I recieved this from a local EAA'er. - -- Regards Ross - --------------695678E213728473500F9F30 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Received: by mail1 for rossy (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.21 1997/08/10) Thu Feb 5 13:39:40 1998) X-From_: pnewb@proaxis.com Thu Feb 5 02:34:45 1998 Return-Path: pnewb@proaxis.com Received: from speedy.proaxis.com (speedy.proaxis.com [198.68.7.14]) by smtp3.teleport.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id CAA03810; Thu, 5 Feb 1998 02:34:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from [206.163.140.251] (lr00-9.proaxis.com [206.163.140.135]) by speedy.proaxis.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id CAA29928; Thu, 5 Feb 1998 02:32:52 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 6 Feb 1998 02:36:40 -0800 To: pnewb@proaxis.com From: pnewb@proaxis.com (Paul Newberry) Subject: e-mail Subject: Re: FCConsidering new fees for email ---------- > From: James Kilpatrick > To: NCBE > Subject: FCC considering new fees for email > Date: Friday, January 23, 1998 4:15 PM > > Because action proposed to the FCC by local phone companies could limit > the emergent free flow of ideas and political action on the internet and > certainly would make access inequities sharper, I'd like to urge > everyone to consider writing the FCC against it. See below: > > This is to inform you of a very important matter currently > underreview by the FCC. Your local telephone company has filed a proposal > with the FCC to impose per minute charges for your internet service. They > contend that your usage has or will hinder the operation of the telephone > network. > E-Mail, in my opinion, will diminish if users were required to > pay additional per minute charges. The FCC has created an email box for > your comments, responses must be received by February 13, 1998. Send your > comments to "isp@fcc.gov" and tell them what you think. > > > Every phone company is in on this one, and they are trying to > sneak it in just under the wire for litigation. Let everyone you know hear > about this one. Get this e-mail address to everyone you can think of. > > FCC E-Mail address isp@fcc.gov > > This is really important to e-mail users. Especially those who > do not have access through their work. If we have to pay for e-mail , the > cost is going to skyrocket. It's about the only thing now that is > cost-effective. Please make your opinions known to the FCC. > > Tell your friends, tell everyone who uses E-Mail. > - --------------695678E213728473500F9F30-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Feb 1998 14:14:57 -0800 From: Micheal Mims Subject: Re: KR: New PIC At 12:37 PM 2/5/98 -0500, you wrote: >I MADE IT!!! YAA HOO! > >Took my final flight test yesterday and passed. Congrats! I will have a beer for you tonight!! A sort of cyber toast?? :o) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Micheal Mims Building outer wings now mailto:mikemims@pacbell.net http://home.pacbell.net/mikemims Fax 714.856.9417 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Feb 1998 18:00:55 -0800 From: David Moore Subject: Re: KR: New PIC Congratulations Bob, You have now joined an elite group of people who when asked, "Are YOU a Pilot"? You can puff out you chest and say "It use to be I couldn't even spell PILOT now I are one" No kidding congratulations, and good flying. Dave Moore At 12:37 PM 2/5/98 -0500, you wrote: >I MADE IT!!! YAA HOO! > >Took my final flight test yesterday and passed. Luckily, the big storm >hitting the northeast was held south of here by a strong cold front -- >so I got to fly. It feels real good to have it over with and have that >ticket. Its been a lifelong dream of mine to learn to fly. Now I can get >down to the serious business of finishing my KR. > >My plan was: 1) learn to fly 2) build a KR2S. >I'm half way there. > >Bob Smith, Albany, NY Cruisin' the skies with a smile on my face > > David Moore Turnkey1@MSComm.Com Hesperia, Calif. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Feb 1998 17:55:59 -0800 From: MARVIN MCCOY Subject: Re: KR: Engine Paint-Heat Buildup. KR2616TJ@aol.com wrote: > In light of the possibility of overheating the > engine, does anybody know of anyone successfully painting a VW case? > I'll be calling Steve Thurs. to order my new crank and I'll ask him also, but > I'd like to get several opinions. > > Dana Overall > Richmond, KY > kr2616tj@aol.com > http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/7085/ - -------------------------- Dana: I am no mechanic and do not have any first hand knowledge regarding paint and heat on the VW engine. However, everything I have read, Tom Wilson "Rebuild Your Air Cooled VW" and also Hoover's sermons on the net all say not to paint the case. Only paint the jugs and paint them black. Apparently a stock motor may not be a problem. But when you hop it up with larger pistons etc., the motor generates more heat and when you paint it it makes it harder to dissipate the heat. I don't know, just what I have read. Marvin McCoy Seattle, WA. North end of Boeing field mr.marvin@worldnet.att.net - -------------------- ------------------------------ End of krnet-l-digest V2 #32 ****************************