From: owner-krnet-l-digest@teleport.com[SMTP:owner-krnet-l-digest@teleport.com] Sent: Monday, March 16, 1998 7:22 PM To: krnet-l-digest@teleport.com Subject: krnet-l-digest V2 #55 krnet-l-digest Monday, March 16 1998 Volume 02 : Number 055 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 13:46:36 EST From: BSHADR Subject: KR: NASA Flight Test info KRNetheads: As a companion info source to Rick’s fine flight test manual, visit the site listed. A bit detailed and for fast birds than we fly, but informative all the same. http://trc.dfrc.nasa.gov/ftintro/ Enjoy, Randy Stein BSHADR@aol.com Soviet Monica, CA ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 13:46:30 EST From: BSHADR Subject: KR: Viton KRNetheads: I'm up from the bottom of the ditch. I came across this tidbit and thought it worth sharing. Randy Stein BSHADR@aol.com Soviet Monica, CA ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From: Alan Bowes Date: 09 March 1998 17:14 Subject: Re: [MV] M37 Carb Probs >Newer Viton-tipped float needle valves are alcohol resistant and will work fine with oxygenated fuels. You can get one at NAPA (NAPA/Echlin 2-3516).< Hi List, I'm getting near to being well off topic but the reference to Viton from Alan rang a bell. Viton and other modern high temperature "rubber" components are almost magical in their uses but a serious word of warning, if very overheated, like an engine/vehicle fire, and the material is decomposed, looking crispy and brittle, it will produce hydrofluoric acid as I recall. If touched in this state the acid will dissolve human tissue and bone very readily, the only medical cure is AMPUTATION to arrest its progress. There may or may not be these parts in older MV's but some replacement O rings etc., could be of this material; modern vehicles are full of it including heater air ducts and the like. At least two cases of enforced amputation, to my knowledge, have made national news here with the appropriate warnings: A stolen car subsequently torched by the joy-riders was picked over by the owner and a marshal at a club motorcycle race meet who helped clear a burnt out bike, the "rubber" carb headers (manifold) so commonly used (especially in Jap fours) did the damage; both people are missing fingers now. If this unusual hazard is well known, great; if not you know when to reach for the gloves! Sorry for veering off course but life is a lot easier with a full complement of fingers and thumbs. Richard (Southampton UK) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 14:25:28 EST From: KR2 616TJ Subject: Re: KR: Sun and Fun In a message dated 98-03-15 11:59:13 EST, you write: << Is anyone maintaining a list of KR-Netters who are going to Sun and Fun and where they are all staying? AARP (the Association for the Advancement of Richard Parker) >> Richard and all others, We currently have a KR Group rate at the Tampa Fairgrounds Budgetel 813 626-0885. When you call tell them you want this rate, they offered us $59.95. I'll be going down Friday and leaving Tuesday or Weds. and staying at the Budgetel I was getting ready to post the same request, Richard but if you want to ball, take it and run. I thought that if everyone who was planning of going would e-mail one address the dates they were planning on being at Sun & Fun we could plan an evening "out" Maybe we could Melody Mountains (since Oscar isn't going to put her on the CD ROM label) to show herself, I meant show up:-)). Let's hear from everyone who is planning on going. Plus we could always just post a sign at the RR display area for everyone who is not on the KRnet. Dana Overall Richmond, KY kr2616tj@aol.com http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/7085/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 13:45:06 -0600 From: Ed Janssen Subject: KR: Update, Jean? Jean, How about an update on your engine change project for N44D? Ed J. At 07:09 AM 3/15/98 -0500, you wrote: >Mark >Unless something comes up the Ercoupe is a go for Perrykosh air to >air photos. >Jean >N4DD >Broken Arrow, OK > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 15:32:53 -0600 From: "Mark Langford" Subject: KR: ELTs? KRNetHeads, I'm about to buy an ELT and was curious to know if anyone knew of any impending regulation that would render it obsolete before I get inspected in 18 months or so. Unless somebody talks me out of it, I plan to buy an Ameri-King AK-450 that has 121.5/243 MHz capability as well as voice communication. It's only about $200. I've seen some that also operate on 400 MHz for some reason and was wondering what I was missing for only several hundred more dollars. Why buy it now? It's a long story but a friend who thinks she owes me a favor (we put her and her 3 year old up for 6 months to protect her from her lunatic husband while going thru a divorce) wants to buy something for the plane. She likes the idea that it might help save my life, or at least they'll be able to find my limp body before it's completely cold... Thanks in advance. Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL email at langford@hiwaay.net KR2S project construction at http://fly.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 15:15:04 -0600 From: "Mark Langford" Subject: KR: Re: calendar idea Jean Veron wrote: > Unless something comes up the Ercoupe is a go for Perrykosh air to > air photos. Outstanding news! Maybe the powers that be will notify the pilots that they'll all receive free air to air photos if they show up. Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL email at langford@hiwaay.net KR2S project construction at http://fly.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 17:18:03 -0600 From: Bobby Muse Subject: Re: KR: N541RY Progress Report At 03:33 PM 2/14/98 -0800, you wrote: >Micheal Mims wrote: > >> At 05:22 PM 2/9/98 -0800, you wrote: >> >4) Nifty exhaust manifold tape! Should keep the temperature in the >> >cowling down. However at $40.00, I might want to sell you what I have >> left over... If any. >> > >> Dude don't use the exhaust tape unless your pipes are chrome or cadmium >> plated. (Or some kind of plating) Otherwise they will rust pronto! >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> Micheal Mims >> Building outer wings now > >Hmmm, > Everything in Oregon rusts pronto anyway, but it does give me a reason >to re-consider. I wouldn't be able to SEE the rust. Maybe I'd have to put >a 50 hour/annual inspection item to remove the tape and check the pipes. >The advantage of cooler cowling temps may be worth it. I could check >out getting the pipes plated, but then that makes everything heavier... >not to mention more expensive. Ugh. > > -- Ross > Ross, This is based upon my experience only.... When I first started Taxi tests with my KR, I was fighting High oil temp problems. I put the exhaust manifold tape on my exhaust. I too feared that the pipes would rust prematurally. At prefight inspections, I would tap on the pipes and try to determine if they were in fact rushing. I found not enough evidence to remove the tape. The tape had lowered the oil temp almost 40 degrees. Finally, just before the last KR Gathering I ordered the 4into1 exhaust system from GPACS and removed the tape... The pipes were still in great shape after 4 years and 270hrs. I painted them with exhaust manifold paint that my hanger mate gave me and put the old exhaust back on the KR. Mainly because I didn't want to have to modify my lower cowling. Today, the old pipes are still on the KR. The only problem....my oil temp is now 210 to 220 degrees, up from 180 to 190 degrees with the tape. My fix is to have the new exhaust ceramic coated which will lower the outer pipe temp and with the shorter pipes of the 4into1 exhaust, my oil temps should go back closer to my desired normal... 195 degrees. Bobby Muse(N122B) bmuse@mindspring.com Wimberly, TX ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 17:33:33 -0600 From: Bobby Muse Subject: Re: KR: KR side stick- my vote At 04:59 AM 2/26/98 PST, you wrote: > >To be taken with the usual grain of salt and IMHO... > >This from a taildragger pilot: give me the stick where it belongs- >between the knees. Not only is it a good 'autopilot', but try to start >up your bird in the morning without that handy feature. You have to >hold the stick back so the tail won't come up when you light the fire >In my opinion. >(snip) >Oscar Zuniga >Medford, Oregon > >______________________________________________________ A suggest that I gave my Dad(KR taidragger) after he lost a prop at startup. For taildraggers only... use a bungee cord hooked onto your control stick to hold the stick back and the elevator down while on the ground. Bobby Muse(N122B) bmuse@mindspring.com Wimberly, TX ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 18:56:36, -0500 From: YCGB97A@prodigy.com (MR JEAN R VERON) Subject: KR: ELTs? Mark I don't think you will find a finer piece of equipment. It's the best I have seen. As far as finding your body before it gets cold. I wouldn't bet on that one. I spent quite a few years hunting ELT's for the CAP ( come and pay ) They don't even start the search until they have 2 hits from the satelite 90 min. apart. Then they wait until 2 am when all pilots are sure to be sound asleep. Jean N4DD ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 19:19:55, -0500 From: YCGB97A@prodigy.com (MR JEAN R VERON) Subject: KR: Update, Jean? The -2S firewall is on and faired into fuselage. I just completed the closeout that holds the engine cowl on. Put the fibrefrax and stainless steel and mounted the new engine mount. The lower cowl mold is completed ( at least the first stage ) and i have the first part out of it. The next step will be to assemble the engine and mount it. I will then modify the bottom cowl to go over a standard O-200 oil tank and use a standard carb heat box. Martin Roberts had to cut 1" off the oil tank and does not have carb heat. He will soon because he has experienced carb ice on several ocassions. Then I will modify the mold so it should work on a KR-2S with stock O-200 Parts. I also took time to make a new weld jig for the O-200 that attaches closer to the upper and lower longerons. 28' wide at the top and 26" wide at the bottom. I am also making a mold to make the upper deck from the instrument pannel to the firewall. I'm doing away with the header tank ( 22lbs. ) and will burn directly out of the wing tanks ( 30 gal. ). That means putting in fuel gages. Plan to start engine buildup this friday and have that done sometime next Sunday.Upper cowl plug should finish this week and mold to follow in a coulpe of days. I think I have all parts to finish but i've been wrong before. Well back to work on the project. Jean N4DD ( all i lack is finishing up ) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 18:09:04 -0600 From: Bobby Muse Subject: Re: KR: VW CHT .At 10:37 PM 2/24/98 +0000, you wrote: > >Hi can anyone advise please. > >My Rand KR2 has been flying since the summer >with a 1835cc VW converted in the UK with twin plugs per cylinder. > >The engine runs hot with a CHT at an indicated 460F straight and >level at anything over 3100 RPM. It would reach 480F in the climb if >I let it. Probably higher as I've never tried. > >Could I ask what CHT other VW users are getting at; > >Ground Idle >Cruse >Max Climb > >And what's the groups experience with the reliability of >un compensated Westach CHT gauges with the thermocouple under the >right rear cylinder plug. > >There are no other signs of overheating (discolouring , hot oil >smells, overrunning) and the EGT and oil temperatures are good. > >Believe me I have tried everything I can think of including, >timing, compression (8:1), mixture, baffle seals, even >calibrating the thermocouple and gauge. > >I'm beginning to wonder if this is normal. > >Thanks >Hedley Walker > I have a Westach gauge/thermocouple, But I attached the thermocouple to a cyclinder head nut because with the spark plug going on and off the thermocouple will get destroyed at the spark plug. My temps vary little once the engine gets warm. Cruise= 275-300*, Taxi/idle= 175-225* degrees, Max Climb= 350*. Remember to add 75-80 degrees to the my readings due to the thermocouple being attached to the cyclinder head to compared to yours(under the spark plug). You might try to relocate where the thermocouple is attached. Try to attach the thermocouple where it doesn't get heated by the exhaust or cooled by incoming(cooling) air. Bobby Muse(N122B) bmuse@mindspring.com Wimberly, TX ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 18:41:46 -0600 From: brian whatcott Subject: Re: KR: KR side stick- my vote At 17:33 3/15/98 -0600, you wrote: >A suggestion that I gave my Dad(KR taildragger) after he lost a prop at startup. >For taildraggers only... use a bungee cord hooked onto your control stick to >hold the stick back and the elevator down while on the ground. > > Bobby Muse(N122B) > bmuse@mindspring.com > Wimberly, TX > Tail down, Bobby, elevator up! Brian ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 18:37:07 -0600 From: Bobby Muse Subject: Re: KR: CD-ROM >This thing is going to happen! > >So, you will get the old KR Newsletters 1 through 100 or so with index, >the KRNet archives at least through 1997, Neil Bingham's articles on the >KR, an index of back issues of Sport Aviation, Mark Langford's treatise >on the history of the KR, plus several other sundry other goodies... >compiled as Volume I of the KRNet Traveling Resource Library. I, an >accomplished artist in my own right ;o), am concocting the tasteful >labels myself (sorry; no Melody Mountains). > >Oscar Zuniga Oscar, Please put me on CD mailing list. Thanks, Bobby Muse(N122B) bmuse@mindspring.com Wimberly, TX ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 17:05:08 PST From: "Oscar Zuniga" Subject: KR: Humor- no archive >Real stories from Flight Attendants apologizing for rough transport on the airlines..... Upon landing hard, the pilot gets on the PA system, "Sorry folks for the hard landing. It wasn't the pilot's fault, and it wasn't the plane's fault. It was the asphalt." An airline pilot wrote that on this particular flight he had hammered his ship into the runway really hard. The airline had a policy which required the first officer to stand at the door while the passengers exited, give a smile, and a "Thanks for flying XYZ airline." He said that in light of his bad landing, he had a hard time looking the passengers in the eye, thinking that someone would have a smart comment. Finally everyone had gotten off except for this little old lady walking with a cane. She said, "Sonny, mind if I ask you a question?" "Why no Ma'am," said the pilot, "what is it?" The little old lady said, "Did we land or were we shot down?" From a disgruntled Southwest Airlines employee.... "Welcome aboard Southwest Flight XXX, to YYY. To operate your seatbelt, insert the metal tab into the buckle, and pull tight. It works just like every other seatbelt, and if you don't know how to operate one, you probably shouldn't be out in public unsupervised. In the event of a sudden loss of cabin pressure, oxygen masks will descend from the ceiling. Stop screaming, grab the mask, and pull it over your face. If you have a small child traveling with you, secure your mask before assisting with theirs. If you are traveling with two small children, decide now which one you love more. Weather at our destination is 50 degrees with some broken clouds, but they'll try to have them fixed before we arrive. Thank you, and remember, noboby loves you, or your money, more than Southwest Airlines." United Airlines FA: "Ladies and Gentlemen, as you are all now painfully aware, our Captain has landed in Seattle. From all of us at United Airlines we'd like to thank you for flying with us today and please be very careful as you open the overhead bins as you may be killed by falling luggage that shifted during our so called "touch down." About 5 or 6 years ago I was on an American Airlines flight into Amarillo, Texas, on a particularly windy and bumpy day. I could tell during the final that the Captain was really having to fight it, and after an extremely hard landing, the Flight Attendant came on the PA and announced, "Ladies and Gentlemen, welcome to Amarillo. Please remain in your seats with your seatbelts fastened while the Captain taxis what's left of our airplane to the gate!" Another flight Attendant's comment on a less than perfect landing: "We ask you to please remain seated as Captain Kangaroo bounces us to the terminal." Landing: a controlled mid-air collision with a planet. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 17:15:16 -0800 From: "John F. Esch" Subject: KR: vert members done Just finished the verticle and x-verticle members on the ride side fuselage. Now is to tackle the gussets. The second side is moving right along due to having a template already. Woo hoo! Having fun now! John F. Esch, KR-2SSW http://www.cyberis.net/~sesch Salem, OR ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 19:04:21 -0600 From: Bobby Muse Subject: Re: KR: Prop X@$X#@ At 04:05 PM 3/11/98 EST, you wrote: >I'm going to tread real lightly here:-)). I've have been watching the >"debate" because I'll be bolting on my Ed Sterba prop shortly. All I'm going >to do is repeat what has been told to me by Ed and Steve (GP). I called Ed & >Steve today and he said to torque his hard maple prop to between 10 and 12 >foot poundsm(up to 14 foot pounds, but it would serve any real purpose) using >nylon nuts and 5/16 bolts. Run the engine for one minute and check the torque. >That is followed up by checking the torque after your one hour initial runup. >As Mike made a "reference" too :-)) (I think this was directed at me, I can >take it with a smile), experience counts. > >No flames accepted, it you got em point the gun at Ed Sterba. > >Sheewe, I hope I survived this one:-)) > >Dana Overall >Richmond, KY >kr2616tj@aol.com >http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/7085/ > What you say is true for a Ed Serba Prop, except if you have a lycoming bolt pattern setup using 3/8" bolts then the upper torque limit is 17 ft/lbs. Bobby Muse(N122B) bmuse@mindspring.com Wimberly, TX ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 01:50:42 EST From: BSHADR Subject: KR: Re: calendar idea In a message dated 98-03-15 16:42:48 EST, Mark & Jean wrote: << > Unless something comes up the Ercoupe is a go for Perrykosh air to > air photos. Outstanding news! Maybe the powers that be will notify the pilots that they'll all receive free air to air photos if they show up. >> I now count 2 potential photo planes. A Maule & an Ercoupe...geeeeze, we'll have a whole shutter squadron at this rate... Randy Stein ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 10:13:27 EST From: Horn2004 Subject: Re: KR: Test Plan/Alternate Email Address ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 10:17:30 EST From: Horn2004 Subject: Re: KR: paint high temp If you are dealing with a glass surface, why not silk screen on a photo- sensitive chemical resist with your type appearing as a negative (type would have no chemical resist. Then simply chemically etch the glass and then re- install. You could then just rub in some spray can flat black exhaust pipe paint. The type would then be as close to permanent as you could get it. Steve Horn Horn2004@aol.com Dallas, TX ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 07:21:44 -0800 From: Al Hawkins Subject: KR:Sport Pilot Article There is a article on the KR series of aircraft in the April issue of Sport Pilot. Alastair Hawkins Port Coquitlam,B.C. Canada ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 12:16:34 EST From: Kr2dream Subject: KR: vacuum sources Does anyone have a suggestion for running a vacuum gyro without having an engine-driven vacuum pump? I mean besides sticking an ugly venturi horn outside the fuselage. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 12:16:29 EST From: Kr2dream Subject: KR: engines available For anyone who is interested, I have a buddy who is an A&P who has a couple of C-85/90 engines which can be yellow tagged and available at excellent prices. Anyone interested please E-mail me privately and I will put you in touch. His work is excellent and he can make the engines available as zero time overhaul. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 12:19:09 -0600 From: "Mark Langford" Subject: KR: Re: vacuum sources Kr2dream wrote: > Does anyone have a suggestion for running a vacuum gyro without having an > engine-driven vacuum pump? I mean besides sticking an ugly venturi horn > outside the fuselage. Each issue of the KRNewsletter (which is much improved, by the way) has an ad for a VW vacuum pump drive system. Cost is $295 from: MPA Company POB 622KR Toccoa, GA 30577-0622 It fits Diehl or HAPI cases. Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL email at langford@hiwaay.net KR2S project construction at http://fly.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 14:43:10 -0500 From: Donald Reid Subject: Re: KR: vacuum sources Kr2dream wrote: > > Does anyone have a suggestion for running a vacuum gyro without having an > engine-driven vacuum pump? I mean besides sticking an ugly venturi horn > outside the fuselage. In theory, it is possible to have a venturi inside the cowling that uses cooling air and exhaust gas flow to power the venturi. This could give a clean installation, but setup would be an experiment. - -- Don Reid Bumpass, Va. mailto:donreid@erols.com KR2XL at http://www.erols.com/donreid/kr_page.htm Ultralights at http://www.erols.com/donreid/usua250.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 11:56:27 -0800 From: Ross Youngblood Subject: Re: KR: Brake fluid I think this is correct. I decided to purchase Aviation type brake fluid for my project. Got plenty left so far. David Stuart wrote: > > I stand to be corrected on this one but if I remember rightly aviation type > brake fluid may not be compatible with standard auto type brake fluid. I > write this so you might fit a notice to your filler cap or similar so that > in two years time when you bleed and top the system you will have the > memory trigger there in front of you. > Dave......... > David.Stuart@xtra.co.nz - -- Ross Youngblood Pager: (800)SKY-PAGE PIN#895-9073 Staff Technical Specialist voicemail: (800)538-6838 x 1632 Schlumberger SABER Bus Line: (541)714-1754 (Note Area code) Corvallis,Oregon Mailto:rossy@San-Jose.ate.slb.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 11:58:08 -0800 From: Ross Youngblood Subject: Re: KR: Giving away money!!! Tom, Thanks! Tom Andersen wrote: > > Ross, > You'll be receiving a check for $10 in a few days toward KRNET costs. > -Tom - -- Ross Youngblood Pager: (800)SKY-PAGE PIN#895-9073 Staff Technical Specialist voicemail: (800)538-6838 x 1632 Schlumberger SABER Bus Line: (541)714-1754 (Note Area code) Corvallis,Oregon Mailto:rossy@San-Jose.ate.slb.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 11:53:28 -0800 From: Ross Youngblood Subject: Re: KR: Brake fluid - a vintage year? brian whatcott wrote: > > At 00:27 3/13/98 -0800, you wrote: > > > 5) Put properly aged brake fluid into brake lines.... > > -- Regards > > Ross > > > I'm tickled by this move. For some reason, I never heard about doing > this before. Is it to equalize the moisture, the dissolved air or the > temperature...or what? > > Regards > Brian Brian, Don't read too much into this. I bought the brake fluid several years ago, thinking that I would charge up the lines. Then I decided that this would just result in leaks everywhere, so the two bottles sat wrapped in plastic for several years. Hence the term "properly aged". There are all sorts of little things I have bought a long time ago and am finally getting to use. BTW, I just recieved the throttle stops from ACS, they are about $9-10.00 and if you have a lathe and some hex stock you could probably make your own, but they do make for a nice linkage. I will have to machine some material off of my Ellison throttle arm to make one of them fit nicely, (shoulder not long enough), otherwise, they will work terrificly. Also... tried to start the engine Saturday... cranked it over two short times, before giving up. I have several other minor issues to resolve, including a small fuel leak at the fuel filter. Also the right boost pump is doing a fine job of testing the 5A circuit breaker. The left boost pump is OK. I have some nice pictures that I will try to post soon. -- Regards Ross - -- Ross Youngblood Pager: (800)SKY-PAGE PIN#895-9073 Staff Technical Specialist voicemail: (800)538-6838 x 1632 Schlumberger SABER Bus Line: (541)714-1754 (Note Area code) Corvallis,Oregon Mailto:rossy@San-Jose.ate.slb.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 12:05:57 -0800 From: Ross Youngblood Subject: KR: KRNET Donation address I have recieved a couple of Queries as to where to send your $10.00/yr KRNET donation. Send it to: KR-NET Builders & Flyers Orginization c/o Ross Youngblood 1109 NE Burke Pl Corvallis, OR 97330 Our email addresses are: krnet@krnet.org -- The "official" email address for problems with KRNET. (Checked at least once a week, or two weeks) rossy@teleport.com -- Just as good, and you are talking to the same person. krnet-l@teleport.com -- Our email list. -- Regards Ross ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 12:14:59 -0800 From: Ross Youngblood Subject: Re: KR: ELTs? Mark, There was an article in AOPA Pilot or a similar magazine about some newer ELT's out there, the impression I got was that the newer versions were improved as far as accuracy for search crews, but were in the $3,000 price range. I don't recall if this was a 400Mhz version or somthing running in the Ghz range. At any rate I bought an ACK tecnologies ELT which lists for about $209, and if I recall it came with the external mount antenna, although this is listed seperately in the ACS catalog. I was looking at the Ameri-King ELT as well. I don't know why I bought the ACK over the Ameri-King, as the Ameri-King appears to have Voice transmit capability. Plus I had to buy the batteries for the ACK. At any rate, I haven't heard about any new FAR's in the works that would impact this. However Murphys law applies to this stuff. - -- Ross Mark Langford wrote: > > KRNetHeads, > > I'm about to buy an ELT and was curious to know if anyone knew of any > impending regulation that would render it obsolete before I get inspected > in 18 months or so. Unless somebody talks me out of it, I plan to buy an > Ameri-King AK-450 that has 121.5/243 MHz capability as well as voice > communication. It's only about $200. I've seen some that also operate on > 400 MHz for some reason and was wondering what I was missing for only > several hundred more dollars. > > Why buy it now? It's a long story but a friend who thinks she owes me a > favor (we put her and her 3 year old up for 6 months to protect her from > her lunatic husband while going thru a divorce) wants to buy something for > the plane. She likes the idea that it might help save my life, or at least > they'll be able to find my limp body before it's completely cold... > > Thanks in advance. > > Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL > email at langford@hiwaay.net > KR2S project construction at http://fly.hiwaay.net/~langford - -- Ross Youngblood Pager: (800)SKY-PAGE PIN#895-9073 Staff Technical Specialist voicemail: (800)538-6838 x 1632 Schlumberger SABER Bus Line: (541)714-1754 (Note Area code) Corvallis,Oregon Mailto:rossy@San-Jose.ate.slb.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 12:18:06 -0800 From: Ross Youngblood Subject: Re: KR: N541RY Progress Report Bob, I can see how moisture might accumulate under the exhaust tape, but it would evaporate rapidly when the engine starts up. I may still put the tape on. I saw one photo from the gathering in Perry of a plane with the tape on... Let me know what the $$$ was for the ceramic coating on your exhaust, I would be willing to do this if I can find a local outfit that does this. -- Regards Ross Bobby Muse wrote: > > At 03:33 PM 2/14/98 -0800, you wrote: > >Micheal Mims wrote: > > > >> At 05:22 PM 2/9/98 -0800, you wrote: > >> >4) Nifty exhaust manifold tape! Should keep the temperature in the > >> >cowling down. However at $40.00, I might want to sell you what I have > >> left over... If any. > >> > > >> Dude don't use the exhaust tape unless your pipes are chrome or cadmium > >> plated. (Or some kind of plating) Otherwise they will rust pronto! > >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >> Micheal Mims > >> Building outer wings now > > > >Hmmm, > > Everything in Oregon rusts pronto anyway, but it does give me a reason > >to re-consider. I wouldn't be able to SEE the rust. Maybe I'd have to put > >a 50 hour/annual inspection item to remove the tape and check the pipes. > >The advantage of cooler cowling temps may be worth it. I could check > >out getting the pipes plated, but then that makes everything heavier... > >not to mention more expensive. Ugh. > > > > -- Ross > > > Ross, This is based upon my experience only.... When I first started Taxi > tests with my KR, I was fighting High oil temp problems. I put the exhaust > manifold tape on my exhaust. > I too feared that the pipes would rust prematurally. At prefight > inspections, I would tap on the pipes and try to determine if they were in > fact rushing. I found not enough evidence to remove the tape. The tape had > lowered the oil temp almost 40 degrees. > Finally, just before the last KR Gathering I ordered the 4into1 > exhaust system from GPACS and removed the tape... The pipes were still in > great shape after 4 years and 270hrs. I painted them with exhaust manifold > paint that my hanger mate gave me and put the old exhaust back on the KR. > Mainly because I didn't want to have to modify my lower cowling. Today, the > old pipes are still on the KR. > The only problem....my oil temp is now 210 to 220 degrees, up from > 180 to 190 degrees with the tape. > My fix is to have the new exhaust ceramic coated which will lower the > outer pipe temp and with the shorter pipes of the 4into1 exhaust, my oil > temps should go back closer to my desired normal... 195 degrees. > > > Bobby Muse(N122B) > bmuse@mindspring.com > Wimberly, TX - -- Ross Youngblood Pager: (800)SKY-PAGE PIN#895-9073 Staff Technical Specialist voicemail: (800)538-6838 x 1632 Schlumberger SABER Bus Line: (541)714-1754 (Note Area code) Corvallis,Oregon Mailto:rossy@San-Jose.ate.slb.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 12:23:37 -0800 From: Ross Youngblood Subject: Re: KR: vert members done John, Gussets can be a royal pain. I think there are over 2 million gussets in the KR fuselage. I used to keep a running talley of how many gussets I did over a weekend... 30, 50, 60. This way I knew I was making progress. This can be a letdown after the quick visual impact of having the sides done... the cross members also need gussets. -- Regards Ross John F. Esch wrote: > > Just finished the verticle and x-verticle members on the ride side > fuselage. Now is to tackle the gussets. The second side is moving > right along due to having a template already. Woo hoo! Having fun now! > > John F. Esch, KR-2SSW > http://www.cyberis.net/~sesch > Salem, OR - -- Ross Youngblood Pager: (800)SKY-PAGE PIN#895-9073 Staff Technical Specialist voicemail: (800)538-6838 x 1632 Schlumberger SABER Bus Line: (541)714-1754 (Note Area code) Corvallis,Oregon Mailto:rossy@San-Jose.ate.slb.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 14:15:31 -0800 From: Ross Youngblood Subject: KR: Weekend Photo Shot The latest photo of my project is available at http://www.teleport.com/~rossy/N541RYmain.htm I was unable to get the engine cranked over on Saturday. A fuel leak and a couple of minor electrical problems all stacked up and I decided that once I had run the battery down, that was enough for one day. No... I wasn't cranking the engine over like crazy. I had a new battery and charged it for 3 hours, then proceed to drain the life from it checking out the electrical system with a volt meter before I even cranked it over. Turns out the right engine boost pump wiring is hosed. However the circuit breaker works! I love it when a plan comes together. Unfortunately, I have a fuel leak at the firewall (cockpit side), where one of the fuel filters is. This was the primary reason I didn't get the engine purring last weekend. I hope to correct these bugs by next weekend. Also the wings come home for some needed filling & sanding, then paint. Ailerons and Flaps go in after that, and then... well it should be flyable by then. Did I mention the cowling needs filling & sanding too? -- Regards Ross ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 16:59:22 -0600 From: brian whatcott Subject: Re: KR: paint high temp At 10:17 3/16/98 EST, you wrote: >If you are dealing with a glass surface, why not silk screen on a photo- >sensitive chemical resist with your type appearing as a negative (type would >have no chemical resist. Then simply chemically etch the glass and then re- >install. You could then just rub in some spray can flat black exhaust pipe >paint. The type would then be as close to permanent as you could get it. > >Steve Horn >Horn2004@aol.com >Dallas, TX > > Lessee - what etches glass? Oh, yep, hydrofluoric acid. That's the stuff that Randy's recent "viton" note was about - eating peoples' fingers.... From personal experience - be careful! Whatcott Altus OK ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 18:40:23 -0600 From: "Mark Langford" Subject: KR: exhaust coatings More info on exhaust coatings can be found at http://www.hpcoatings.com Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL email at langford@hiwaay.net KR2S project construction at http://fly.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 17:17:59 PST From: "Oscar Zuniga" Subject: KR: Venturis FWIW- There is a piece on making a "submerged" venturi in the wing root fillet area, in one of the old Newsletters. The drawings are kind of crude, but the backup documentation is there. Problem is, as I recall- it only pulls enough to run one instrument. That would be turn 'n' bank? Oh, yeah- it also takes quite a bit of glassing-in to fair it in right. I had thought about the exhaust/cooling air/intake manifold thing too, but when the engine's not running high speed, you don't have much vacuum. Oscar Zuniga Medford, Oregon ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 21:16:51 -0500 From: "Richard Parker" Subject: KR: my wood arrived today This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01BD5120.D68E5F60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable My wood arrived today and I have no interruptions for this weekend. =20 I dont remember being this excited when I got the wood for my deck.=20 AARP=20 (the Association for the Advancement of Richard Parker) - ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01BD5120.D68E5F60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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- ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01BD5120.D68E5F60-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 21:01:53 -0600 From: "Mark Langford" Subject: KR: Re: my wood arrived today Richard Parker wrote: >My wood arrived today and I have no interruptions for this weekend. I hate to break this to ya, but you're gonna need a little more than this weekend... Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL email at langford@hiwaay.net KR2S project construction at http://fly.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 19:54:23 -0700 From: jscott.pilot@juno.com (Jeffrey E Scott) Subject: Re: KR: Weekend Photo Shot More good progress Ross. I think the fuel leak and one wiring mistake is a requisite before you can fly. Personally, I gave my generator circut breaker a good ops check for the wiring error. I think I counted 11 fuel leaks the first time I fueled my plane. They were all in flared fittings that required a little tightening to seal. Haven't leaked since. Regards, Jeff - ------- Jeff Scott - Los Alamos, NM jscott.pilot@juno.com See N1213W construction and first flight at http://home.hiwaay.net~langford/kjefs.html & http: //www.thuntek.net/~jeb/krpage.htm On Mon, 16 Mar 1998 14:15:31 -0800 Ross Youngblood writes: >The latest photo of my project is available at >http://www.teleport.com/~rossy/N541RYmain.htm >I was unable to get the engine cranked over on Saturday. A fuel leak >and >a couple of minor electrical problems all stacked up and I decided >that >once I had run the battery down, that was enough for one day. > >No... I wasn't cranking the engine over like crazy. I had a new >battery > >and charged it for 3 hours, then proceed to drain the life from it >checking >out the electrical system with a volt meter before I even cranked it >over. Turns out the right engine boost pump wiring is hosed. However >the circuit breaker works! I love it when a plan comes together. > >Unfortunately, I have a fuel leak at the firewall (cockpit side), >where >one of >the fuel filters is. This was the primary reason I didn't get the >engine purring >last weekend. I hope to correct these bugs by next weekend. > >Also the wings come home for some needed filling & sanding, then >paint. >Ailerons and Flaps go in after that, and then... well it should be >flyable >by then. Did I mention the cowling needs filling & sanding too? > > -- Regards > Ross > > _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ End of krnet-l-digest V2 #55 ****************************