From: owner-krnet-l-digest@teleport.com[SMTP:owner-krnet-l-digest@teleport.com] Sent: Thursday, April 02, 1998 6:10 PM To: krnet-l-digest@teleport.com Subject: krnet-l-digest V2 #63 krnet-l-digest Thursday, April 2 1998 Volume 02 : Number 063 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 22:04:07 -0800 From: tomstokes1@juno.com (WAYLAND T. STOKES) Subject: Re: KR: Tailwheel help!!! I have to fly to Tacoma Washington Sunday night for 2 weeks and go to a class at Ft. Lewis. Any good projects there that I could see. Ross where do you live. Tom Stokes in Reno NV _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Apr 1998 22:13:44 -0800 From: "John F. Esch" Subject: Re: KR: Tailwheel help!!! Tom Are you in the military? John F. (Few more gussets then ready to glue second fuse side) Esch Salem, Oregon http://www.cyberis.net/~sesch WAYLAND T. STOKES wrote: > I have to fly to Tacoma Washington Sunday night for 2 weeks and go > to a > class at Ft. Lewis. Any good projects there that I could see. Ross > where > do you live. > > Tom Stokes in Reno NV > > _____________________________________________________________________ > You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. > Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com > Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 01:36:48 EST From: MikeT nyc Subject: KR: KITPLANES and Great Plains Aircraft >Subj: Re: KR: KITPLANES letters >Date: 98-04-01 22:44:45 EST >From: gpasc@earthlink.net (Great Plains Aircraft) >Sender: owner-krnet-l@teleport.com >Reply-to: krnet-l@teleport.com >To: krnet-l@teleport.com > >from an advertisers stand point, i can say that Kitplanes editor is >anything but un-biased. Sb I subscribe to Kitplanes and I think it's a pretty good magazine (even before they printed my letter!), but the way they treat Great Plains Aircraft has infuriated me for years. They have an annual roundup of all the engines for experimental aviation, and every single year they ignore Great Plains completely, even though they list fly-by-night VW conversion outfits that have only been around a short time and some of the oddball engine designs you can't even buy yet. I wrote to Kitplanes several times about this, and they never corrected their error or gave any reason why they think Great Plains doesn't deserve to be included. I'm not building a plane yet and I haven't bought anybody's engine, but I have done a lot of study of VW conversions, and as far as I know GPA has as good a reputation as anybody in the business, maybe because they believe in conservative hp and compression ratios (unlike, say, Revmaster). I'm not sure what that comment by Steve Bennett above means, but if Kitplanes isn't treat him equally because he doesn't advertise enough, that would be the last straw, and I'd have trouble trusting the products their writers praise in the future. I'm sending a copy of this e-mail to Dave Martin, editor of Kitplanes, whose address is above. If anyone else feels like contacting him, maybe someday they'll start reviewing all the companies more fairly. Mike Taglieri ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Apr 1998 22:51:11 -0800 From: Micheal Mims Subject: Re: KR: KITPLANES and Great Plains Aircraft At 01:36 AM 4/2/98 EST, you wrote: >>from an advertisers stand point, i can say that Kitplanes editor is >>anything but un-biased. Sb > I subscribe to Kitplanes and I think it's a pretty good magazine (even before they printed my letter!),>>> Mike, you may want to ask Steve if its OK for you to send his comment to this list to Kitplanes. I have made a comment or two here and they have found their way back to a certain company and it wasn't a pretty scene! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Micheal Mims SP290 Spreading its Wings Soon! mailto:mikemims@pacbell.net http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/4136/ Irvine Ca Fax 714.856.9417 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Apr 1998 22:59:31 EST From: leperkins@juno.com (Lloyd Perkins,Jr.) Subject: KR: KR-2 for sale Hello Everyone, Time does not allow me to keep this KR-2.... It was finished by Max Caulkin back in 1993. It has a conveted VW built by the Happi factory. The airplane has about 200 hours total time . Im asking $4500.00. Please e-mail me for more specs or to set up a time to veiw the aircraft. It is currently sitting in my garage here in Va. with the wings off. Best Regards, Lloyd LEPERKINS@JUNO.COM (540)786-2838 home _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 02:20:31 EST From: MikeT nyc Subject: Re: KR: FYI and other stuff >Also there was a debate here about the crush or friction value of the WAFs >when all the bolts were installed and torqued. Well just for kicks I >installed the two old KB WAFs I used as templates. These old dudes were >worn pretty badly, the holes for the an3 bolts were about 1/32 oversize. >Anyway I installed them and torqued all the bolts. I lifted up and down on >the main spar and sure enough it was making a nice solid clicking sound as >well as moving up and down about 1/2 inch. I had my wife apply pressure up >and down on the spar while I watched and you could see the bolts and spar >moving back and forth inside the WAF. So needless to say there is no >friction value what so ever with the WAFs. The latest issue of EAA experimenter discusses the increase in strength by using T-88 and bolts at the same time on metal/wood joints. The short answer is that it significantly increases the strength on a joint like this -- the long answer is that special cleaning/degreasing is necessary for best results. >Thanks to the list and the little network of friends I have made I may have >found two Bendix mags at a great price. Make sure the "great price" isn't because these are the Bendix mags with the repetitive AD on them. Mike Taglieri ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Apr 1998 23:28:52 -0800 From: Micheal Mims Subject: Re: KR: FYI and other stuff At 02:20 AM 4/2/98 EST, you wrote: >Make sure the "great price" isn't because these are the Bendix mags with the repetitive AD on them. > >Mike Taglieri > There not, and even if they were ADs dont apply to Xperimentals! :o) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Micheal Mims SP290 Spreading its Wings Soon! mailto:mikemims@pacbell.net http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/4136/ Irvine Ca Fax 714.856.9417 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 00:05:02 -0800 From: Robert Covington Subject: Re: KR: KITPLANES and Great Plains Aircraft >Mike, you may want to ask Steve if its OK for you to send his comment to >this list to Kitplanes. I have made a comment or two here and they have >found their way back to a certain company and it wasn't a pretty scene! >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >Micheal Mims While I would agree getting permission would be the polite thing to do, and perhaps the right thing to do, once comments hit the list they basically have become public domain and forwardable to anyone and everyone. So just talk nice about everybody or be willing to back up your comments if the object of them ever gets wind of them. ;) LOL In an unrelated topic,I can't believe Mark Langford got messed with for having "Oilite" mentioned on his WWW page. Bogus of that there company. I will take their logo, pollute it in Kai's Power Goo and Photoshop, and stick in on a WWW page as satire. That'll teach 'em. :) Robert Covington ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 00:12:38 -0800 From: Robert Covington Subject: KR: Nice Flight Simulator I don't know if anyone has posted such about this before, but "X-Planes" is a really neat flight simulator, coming in Mac and PC versions (Win95) and claims to sport such a real flight model that planes and parts you design in the plane and parts maker application can be used to gather quality engineering data about the real world capabilities or shortcomings. It is muy pricey, at $199, but looks to be worth it. The demo runs for 5 minutes before disabling mouse or joystick input, making you fly on down using trim alone or crashing. Lotta fun flying (trying to fly) a Valkyrie out of Cable Airport's runway. (3800') LOL Told me when I was flying a 172 and busted Vne that "it was taking a flying surface away now, enjoy the ride down". :) Nice splatters on the dash. Quote from the intro : >The flight dynamics are the same type that are used by engineers in >predicting the performance of new aircraft designs. Coupled with >Part-Maker and Plane-Maker (included) you have in front of you a system >that is powerful enough to enter your own aircraft designs and fly them, >getting a flight performance prediction that is accurate enough for >engineering use. Robert Covington ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 01:06:38 -0800 From: "Martin Mulvey" Subject: Re: KR: Tailwheel help!!! Hi Wayland, I have a -2S going together at Pierce County Airport. (1S0) That is not far from either TCM ot Fort Lewis. There are two other "versions" going together there as well. Another flying since 1979. Send me an E-MAIL off line and we could touch base. BRGDS Marty - -----Original Message----- From: WAYLAND T. STOKES To: krnet-l@teleport.com Cc: krnet-l@teleport.com Date: 01 April, 1998 22:13 Subject: Re: KR: Tailwheel help!!! > I have to fly to Tacoma Washington Sunday night for 2 weeks and go to a >class at Ft. Lewis. Any good projects there that I could see. Ross where >do you live. > >Tom Stokes in Reno NV > >_____________________________________________________________________ >You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. >Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com >Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Apr 1998 07:27:46 -0800 From: J Pratt Subject: KR: UNSUBSCRIBED ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 06:10:02 -0600 From: "Mark Langford" Subject: KR: Re: KR-2 for sale Lloyd, I'll be there to look at it whenever it's convenient. Put me at the top of the list. I'm at 205-851-9902 at night or 205-726-5452 during the day. There is a certain appeal to be sooner, rather than later.... Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL email at langford@hiwaay.net KR2S project construction at http://fly.hiwaay.net/~langford - ---------- > From: Lloyd Perkins,Jr. > To: krnet-l@teleport.com > Subject: KR: KR-2 for sale > Date: Wednesday, April 01, 1998 9:59 PM > > Hello Everyone, > > Time does not allow me to keep this KR-2.... It was finished by Max > Caulkin back in 1993. It has a conveted VW built by the Happi factory. > The airplane has about 200 hours total time . Im asking $4500.00. Please > e-mail me for more specs or to set up a time to veiw the aircraft. It is > currently sitting in my garage here in Va. with the wings off. > > Best Regards, > Lloyd > LEPERKINS@JUNO.COM > (540)786-2838 home > > _____________________________________________________________________ > You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. > Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com > Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 07:49:31 EST From: DFCPAC Subject: Re: KR: KR-2 for sale dear Lloyd, i just read your adv. about your kr for sale and i'm very interested in it. i would like more information on it also any photo's you may have. i'm not a tire kicker, an been looking for a kr for a while now, i'm from l.i. new york and would be down this weekend if it's in good shape. is it flyable or would i have to trailer it. please either e-mail me or give me a call. home == 516-427-7422 or i'll be at work today from 10-6 516-483-5576 dfcpac@aol.com thank you dan carley ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 06:56:24 -0600 From: Ed Janssen Subject: Re: KR: Aileron Control Mike, From my experience flying a KR, built closely to plans, it is definitely an aileron airplane. I can make nice turns without any coordinated effort with the rudder. The rudder pedals on my KR-1 give me a place to rest my feet and that's about it, except of course, when they're needed for a crosswind landing. Steve Bennett has flown both the KR-1 and KR-2 (and now the KR-1 1/2) and he would probably echo the same thoughts. He said to me once that the KR-2 ailerons are noticeably less sensitive than the KR-1. I've never had a ride in a KR-2, so I won't comment on the -2. Also, I prefer to use the word "responsive" rather than "sensitive". Ed Janssen >>I have another question to you flyers. How do you honestly feel about the >>aileron control (roll rate) of your KRs? When I flew Troy's bird I like the >>feel of the ailerons but that was a very brief introduction! If you don't >>want to post to the list you can send it directly to me. Thanks for any >imput! >>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>Micheal Mims > >My short flight on the controls (15 minutes or so) in Troy's plane left me >with the impression that its roll "sensitivity/feel" was very nice. > >Ron > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 08:18:54 -0500 From: Donald Reid Subject: Re: KR: FYI and other stuff Micheal Mims wrote: > > At 02:20 AM 4/2/98 EST, you wrote: > >Make sure the "great price" isn't because these are the Bendix mags > > with the repetitive AD on them. > > > >Mike Taglieri > > > > There not, and even if they were ADs dont apply to Xperimentals! :o) > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Micheal Mims True of course, but it is a good consider the AD and comply if necessary. Some AD's are bogus and some AD's are important. - -- Don Reid Bumpass, Va. mailto:donreid@erols.com KR2XL at http://www.erols.com/donreid/kr_page.htm Ultralights at http://www.erols.com/donreid/usua250.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 06:32:20 PST From: "Oscar Zuniga" Subject: KR: Flying at gross Mike T wrote: my >instructor demonstrated to me that although it will fly modestly well, a >Cessna 152 is either overgross or perilously close to it with only his 220 >lbs, my 160 lbs, and our respective flight bags. I had my own experience early in my flying career. I flew 150 mi. for a business meeting with another guy in right seat. After the meeting, we were offered last year's "Sweets Files" by the architects we met with (if you don't know what Sweets Files are, don't worry; just picture 3 cardboard boxes full of big fat books). Merrily we loaded up the Tomahawk and took off. Used up all the rwy, barely made it to altitude, and boy was it squirrely. We were legal but not too safe. Won't do that again. Oscar Zuniga Medford, Oregon ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 06:50:55 PST From: "Oscar Zuniga" Subject: KR: Exhaust Systems (no archive) Jim wrote: >I'd sure like to find out an equally quiet > alternative. > Yo, Jim; build the KR-1B (motorglider) and stop the prop ;o) Sorry; just had to do that Oscar Zuniga Medford, Oregon ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 07:20:07 -0800 From: Micheal Mims Subject: Re: KR: Aileron Control At 06:56 AM 4/2/98 -0600, you wrote: I won't comment on the -2. Also, I prefer to use the word "responsive" rather than "sensitive". > >Ed Janssen > >Mike Mims worte: >>>I have another question to you flyers. How do you honestly feel about the >>>aileron control (roll rate) of your KRs? When I flew Troy's bird I like the >>>feel of the ailerons but that was a very brief introduction! If you don't >>>want to post to the list you can send it directly to me. Thanks for any >>imput! >>>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Dude I don't think I used the word responsive in my post (read my post above) but if I did,..oh well. You old timers can call it "responsive" all you want but when you get right down to it,.. it is a VERY pitch (not roll) "sensitive" airplane. Sorry but a spade is a spade! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Micheal Mims SP290 Spreading its Wings Soon! mailto:mikemims@pacbell.net http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/4136/ Irvine Ca Fax 714.856.9417 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 07:23:39 -0800 From: Micheal Mims Subject: Re: KR: Aileron Control At 07:20 AM 4/2/98 -0800, you wrote: Sorry but a spade is a spade! >> Forgot to put on the smiling face! Sorry! :o) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Micheal Mims SP290 Spreading its Wings Soon! mailto:mikemims@pacbell.net http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/4136/ Irvine Ca Fax 714.856.9417 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Apr 98 18:17:00 BST From: "R.H.Mole -Richard Mole" Subject: RE: KR: Exhaust Systems Michael Mims wrote . I was also thinking the Super >Trap mufflers would be a good option. I know there will be a small weight >penalty but with todays tuned pipe technology there could be a HP gain. I >know for a fact that the Baja racers out here are running the super traps on >their VWs and making more hp than with straight pipes. Plus I really hate >all that noise. Sounds a good idea! If I could get one inside my cowl I would try one tomorrow. I guess most of us running VW engines would be very interested to learn from the first person to try. I wonder which of the Super trap models would be best? Richard Mole R.H.Mole@open.ac.uk PS If this is duplicate post thyen please forgive - I just pressed reply button first time and I think it went to the wrong place! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Apr 98 18:17:00 BST From: "R.H.Mole -Richard Mole" Subject: KR: RE: KR Revmaster tales In my experience (Limbach L2000) it is necessary to run the CHTs at under 170C in cruise and to be very careful not to let the climb CHT get above 205C. Also its really difficult to get the #4 head (ie back right hand side) cool as it tends to run 15C hotter than the others. Beware the Westach gauge readings are only correct when the cold junction of the thermocouple is at calibrated temperature. So add to the gauge readings one degree for each degree that the cockpit temperature exceeds the calibrated temperature (you will get surprising results in high summer!) You can use the CHTs as a guide to develop better cooling arrangements during development flying. Here you subtract the outside air temperature from the corrected gauge values. THe temperature above the OAT indicates how well your cooling system works. But the real indication of success is the valve wear rate. If you measure the valve clearances very accurately say every ten hours and record them before re-adjustment you can easily work out the rate per 100 hrs of operation. You should find that this wear rate reduces as you get your cooling arrangements to work better, as evidenced by the reducing CHT-OAT values. When you can go 25 hrs without re-adjustment you have just about made it! Its been said before but it worth repeating. The engines are fine - but you can kill them dead unless you work very carefully on the cooling. Its easier done in the kr than many other types simply because the climb and cruise speeds are so comparatively high that you have potentially a greater pressure difference to force the required mass flow of cooling air throughthe system. This will only happen if you seal your system by eliminating leaks and by making sure that the outlet is big enough and in a low pressure region. Some guys find even primitive exhaust pumps help to drive the warm air out (not tried this one yet) Richard Mole R.H.Mole@open.ac.uk ---------- >From: owner-krnet-l >To: krnet-l >Subject: Re: KR: Revmaster Tales >Date: Wednesday, April 01, 1998 8:50PM > >>>Well dudes I run a Revmaster R-2100-D serial No 2379 which has now done 535 >>>Hrs without a problem. The engine has had two valve grinds and that is the >>>only maintainance carried out aside from 25 Hr oil changes with fully >>>synthetic oil and tappets set to 7& 9 cold. >> >>David, I have about 1/2 the number of hours on my RevMaster, same model, >>that you have on your RevMaster. Should have about the same success. > >Is two valve grinds in 535 hours considered not having a problem? How hot >does this engine get in flight, anyway? > >I know the TBO for the top end of a VW would be somewhat less than a certified >engine, but this seems pretty outrageous to me. Do Great Plains heads chew up >valves this quick also? Maybe Mike Mimms is right. . . . > >Mike Taglieri ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 19:24:07 +0200 From: Nenad Zganjer Subject: Re: KR: UNSUBSCRIBED J Pratt wrote: ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 12:50:31 -0500 From: "Richard Parker" Subject: KR: FYI: HAPI for sale Atlantic Flyer has this ad this month: >HAPI 2180 Engine with engine >mount, exhaust, Prop off KR-2, >only 50 hours with logs. 2000 OBO >603-595-5233 Richard Parker Jaffrey NH ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 09:59:16 -0800 From: Micheal Mims Subject: Re: KR: Exhaust Systems R.H.Mole -Richard Mole wrote: > > I wonder which of the Super trap models would be best? > > Richard Mole > R.H.Mole@open.ac.uk > I think for the VWs the simple tip muffler would be the best. Its light and adjustable. I could scan a picture or two tonight and post them on the site if anyone is interested. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 14:08:35 EST From: BSHADR Subject: Re: KR: Exhaust Systems In a message dated 98-04-02 12:58:26 EST, Mike wrote: << I think for the VWs the simple tip muffler would be the best. Its light and adjustable. I could scan a picture or two tonight and post them on the site if anyone is interested. >> Mike: Maybe Jeff Scott is able to enlighten us on the muffler size on David's 1/2 VW with the supertrap. Size up a bit and ya got a starting point for the VW. Unfortunately, Mike your 0-290 way be a tad too big for any muffler that will fit a Type I VW. Randy Stein BSHADR@aol.com Soviet Monica, CA ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 13:58:49 -0600 From: "Pdrdean" Subject: KR: Boat Weights I was just wondering what the typical weight of the completed boat was. All I need are rough estimates. Dean drdean@execpc.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 15:25:42 EST From: JEHayward Subject: Re: KR: Exhaust Systems (no archive) In a message dated 98-04-02 09:51:15 EST, you write: << >I'd sure like to find out an equally quiet alternative. > Yo, Jim; build the KR-1B (motorglider) and stop the prop ;o) Sorry; just had to do that. Oscar Zuniga >> Hmmm, danged if that wouldn't do it!!!!! Duh, (slapping my head), there's *always* gonna be someone to think logically around here! Jim Hayward Rapid City, SD ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 14:39:41 -0700 From: "A. Carter" Subject: Re: KR: KITPLANES and Great Plains Aircraft MikeT nyc wrote: > > >Subj: Re: KR: KITPLANES letters > >Date: 98-04-01 22:44:45 EST > >From: gpasc@earthlink.net (Great Plains Aircraft) > >Sender: owner-krnet-l@teleport.com > >Reply-to: krnet-l@teleport.com > >To: krnet-l@teleport.com > > > >from an advertisers stand point, i can say that Kitplanes editor is > >anything but un-biased. Sb > > I subscribe to Kitplanes and I think it's a pretty good magazine (even before > they printed my letter!), but the way they treat Great Plains Aircraft has > infuriated me for years. They have an annual roundup of all the engines for > experimental aviation, and every single year they ignore Great Plains > completely, even though they list fly-by-night VW conversion outfits that have > only been around a short time and some of the oddball engine designs you can't > even buy yet. > > I wrote to Kitplanes several times about this, and they never corrected their > error or gave any reason why they think Great Plains doesn't deserve to be > included. I'm not building a plane yet and I haven't bought anybody's engine, > but I have done a lot of study of VW conversions, and as far as I know GPA has > as good a reputation as anybody in the business, maybe because they believe in > conservative hp and compression ratios (unlike, say, Revmaster). > I'm not sure what that comment by Steve Bennett above means, but if Kitplanes > isn't treat him equally because he doesn't advertise enough, that would be the > last straw, and I'd have trouble trusting the products their writers praise in > the future. I'm sending a copy of this e-mail to Dave Martin, editor of > Kitplanes, whose address is above. If anyone else feels like contacting him, > maybe someday they'll start reviewing all the companies more fairly. > > Mike Taglieri I concur with the above remarks. Steve has been around for a long time and I have dealt with him, he always has been amiable even when I have had to return things to him. He is always willing to answer questions if you ask. Dave I think you should correct this oversight. I have noticed this also like in the April 1998 Engine Directory. - -- Adrian VE6AFY cartera@cuug.ab.ca http://www.cuug.ab.ca/~cartera ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 17:02:26 EST From: KRkip Subject: Re: KR: Revmaster Tales In a message dated 98-04-01 23:06:47 EST, you write: << Mike. After finding a broken valve spring it was decided to do a quick inspection and although not really needed a valve grind was carried out on both sides. This was at 120 Hrs. I did a second top strip at 400Hrs just to have a look and lapped the valves without refacing them. Dave...................... >> Dave i also run a revmaster 2100 and i have had the heads off twice in 400hrs,once for lapping the valves(exhaust seem to be the biggest poroblem) and the next time at 350hrs. The second time i chose to replace the guides and all the valves with new stainless. The total cost for this job was less than a couple of valves for a Lyc or cont plus it gives me a chance to inspect everything. This may seem like excessive maintaince to some but i am comfortable with this and my engine has been very reliable.I also use Mobile 1 and use only about 1 pint in 25hrs Kip ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 17:02:29 EST From: KRkip Subject: KR: Re:posa info Can anyone tell me who supplys parts and rebuild kits for the posa? Any help would be greaty appreciated..Thanks Kip Lounsbury ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 18:23:43 EST From: KR2 616TJ Subject: KR: Panel Planner Software. Sorry for the delay with the reply but all I'm doing right now is looking forward to April 15th. I getting slap happy waiting to close the office and leave for Sun & Fun on the 17th. Enough of this CPA stuff, time for EAA stuff. Anyway, I got the KRnet donation Panel Planner software back from a chapter member who designed his RV panel with it, and can now send it on it's way. Do me a favor, Ron Freiberger, Brian Bland and Oscar get together and let me know who needs this thing first and I'll send it out the day you let me know. Sorry for the KRnet space. Dana Overall Richmond, KY kr2616tj@aol.com http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/7085/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 18:42:17 EST From: KR2 616TJ Subject: KR: 40 Hour Test Phase. Yesterday I watched over a designee inspect a Kitfox. It was pretty much a non-event as he arrived with the temporary airworthiness certificate already typed out and all the paperwork completed also. He did look at ever bolt and nut he could see and made sure that the control surfaces were free and clear. After the inspection he commented that the owner, or any PIC, of the aircraft could do whatever he needed to do to "safely operate the aircraft", including taking a second person along who was either more current, more qualified or if the case may be, a taildragger endorsement, as long as no money changed hands. He said it was a gray area, but that was his interpretation. Is this one of those things where it says somewhere else, that no one other than the pilot is allowed in the aircraft if the tires are off the runway? Food for thought. Dana Overall Richmond, KY kr2616tj@aol.com http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/7085/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 17:42:55 -0600 From: Bobby Muse Subject: Re: KR: Revmaster Tales At 03:52 PM 4/2/98 +1200, you wrote: >Mike. After finding a broken valve spring it was decided to do a quick >inspection and although not really needed a valve grind was carried out on >both sides. This was at 120 Hrs. I did a second top strip at 400Hrs just to >have a look and lapped the valves without refacing them. >Dave...................... > > And Dave, please tell everyone the total cost and time down of each overhaul. I bet it's the best part. Bobby Muse(N122B) bmuse@mindspring.com Wimberly, TX ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 17:42:53 -0600 From: Bobby Muse Subject: Re: KR: Aileron Control At 07:48 PM 4/1/98 -0800, you wrote: >I have another question to you flyers. How do you honestly feel about the >aileron control (roll rate) of your KRs? When I flew Troy's bird I like the >feel of the ailerons but that was a very brief introduction! If you don't >want to post to the list you can send it directly to me. Thanks for any imput! >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >Micheal Mims > I like the way my KR flys! Bobby Muse(N122B) bmuse@mindspring.com Wimberly, TX ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 17:18:10 -0700 From: Ron Lee Subject: Re: KR: 40 Hour Test Phase. Just a non-official comment. I think I read something about essential crew members. It may be that if the other pilot is considered "essential" to the flight tests, then it is OK. But I ain't no reg expert. Ron At 06:42 PM 4/2/98 EST, you wrote: >Yesterday I watched over a designee inspect a Kitfox. It was pretty much a >non-event as he arrived with the temporary airworthiness certificate already >typed out and all the paperwork completed also. He did look at ever bolt and >nut he could see and made sure that the control surfaces were free and clear. >After the inspection he commented that the owner, or any PIC, of the aircraft >could do whatever he needed to do to "safely operate the aircraft", including >taking a second person along who was either more current, more qualified or if >the case may be, a taildragger endorsement, as long as no money changed hands. >He said it was a gray area, but that was his interpretation. Is this one of >those things where it says somewhere else, that no one other than the pilot is >allowed in the aircraft if the tires are off the runway? > >Food for thought. > >Dana Overall >Richmond, KY >kr2616tj@aol.com >http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/7085/ > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 18:07:59 -0600 From: Bobby Muse Subject: Re: KR: Exhaust Systems At 08:25 PM 4/1/98 -0700, you wrote: >On Wed, 01 Apr 1998 17:37:47 -0800 Micheal Mims >writes: >>I know we have talked about this before but I was wondering if anyone >out >>there ever successfully installed a muffler of any kind? I have read the >>article on the "swiss muffler" but that's going a little to far, who >wants >>that big thing hanging out the bottom of ther pride and joy? I was >thinking >>more along the lines or a nice "turbo muffler" (not a glass pac but >>something quiet) installed inside the cowl. I was also thinking the >Super >>Trap mufflers would be a good option. I know there will be a small >weight >>penalty but with todays tuned pipe technology there could be a HP gain. >I >>know for a fact that the Baja racers out here are running the super >traps on >>their VWs and making more hp than with straight pipes. Plus I really >hate >>all that noise. So have any of you KR builder flyers tried a muffler? >>Would you consider one? If not,.. why? >>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>Micheal Mims >>SP290 Spreading its Wings Soon! >>mailto:mikemims@pacbell.net >>http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/4136/ >>Irvine Ca >>Fax 714.856.9417 >> > >For those that may have looked closely at my friend's Hummelbird at >Perry, he is using dual tuned exhaust with supertraps on each. They >aren't there to make it quiet. They're there to help develop HorsePower. > >------- >Jeff Scott - Los Alamos, NM >jscott.pilot@juno.com >See N1213W construction and first flight at >http://home.hiwaay.net~langford/kjefs.html & http: >//www.thuntek.net/~jeb/krpage.htm > > >_____________________________________________________________________ >You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. >Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com >Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] > > When I raced motorcycles, we would muffle the noise by simply welding a washer(donut shape} type baffle inside the exhaust pipe. Bobby Muse(N122B) bmuse@mindspring.com Wimberly, TX ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 19:46:08 -0500 From: Donald Reid Subject: KR: Magazine Article In this month's Experimenter, there was an article on stability and the A/C neutral stability point. The last paragraph reads: "A two-seat kitplane with a very small tail, widely built in the USA, has neutral static stabilty at a CG two inches forward of the specified aft limit. Although safely controllable, it is required in the United Kingdom to have the tail span extended by two feet and the firewall moved forward four inches if a light engine is fitted, to achieve static stability at aft CG." This sounds a lot like a KR. Can any of our UK members comment? - -- Don Reid Bumpass, Va. mailto:donreid@erols.com KR2XL at http://www.erols.com/donreid/kr_page.htm Ultralights at http://www.erols.com/donreid/usua250.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 20:18:28 -0500 From: "Richard Parker" Subject: KR: plywood This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BD5E74.7FD49F20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm waiting for my 4x8x3/32 mahog plywood to come from Wicks. 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- ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BD5E74.7FD49F20-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 17:53:50 -0800 From: Micheal Mims Subject: Re: KR: plywood At 08:18 PM 4/2/98 -0500, you wrote: >I'm waiting for my 4x8x3/32 mahog plywood to come from Wicks. Should I tell my my shipping guy to expect it rolled or flat? > >Richard Parker If it is anything like the birch stuff I got from AS&S it will not be rolled. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Micheal Mims SP290 Spreading its Wings Soon! mailto:mikemims@pacbell.net http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/4136/ Irvine Ca Fax 714.856.9417 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 17:55:26 -0800 From: Micheal Mims Subject: Re: KR: Boat Weights At 01:58 PM 4/2/98 -0600, you wrote: >I was just wondering what the typical weight of the completed boat was. All >I need are rough estimates. > You will need to be more specific about what you call a boat. With or without tail feathers, with or with out spars, etc. Also this should be in the archives because I asked the same question about 1.5 years ago. :o) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Micheal Mims SP290 Spreading its Wings Soon! mailto:mikemims@pacbell.net http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/4136/ Irvine Ca Fax 714.856.9417 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 18:47:03 -0700 From: Ron Lee Subject: Re: KR: Gathering ideas Just to start some discussion on gathering site selection criteria, I am starting a list. Obviously some items will count more than others. 1) Multiple runways (for crosswinds) 2) Adequate ramp area for multiple plane rides operations 3) Low-cost hangar facilities 4) Close hotels/free (low-cost) taxi service 5) Restaurant on-site 6) Open areas near airport for demo flights. 7) US Location (subject to change: east/west coast/mid US) 8) Potential for cool weather (better flight performance) 9) Shade 10) Seating facilities 11) Facilities for evening BBQ 12) Picture of Ron Lee in FBO office Ron "Primadona" Lee ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 21:12:10 -0500 From: "Richard Parker" Subject: Re: KR: plywood >At 08:18 PM 4/2/98 -0500, you wrote: >>I'm waiting for my 4x8x3/32 mahog plywood to come from Wicks. Should I tell >my my shipping guy to expect it rolled or flat? >> >>Richard Parker > >If it is anything like the birch stuff I got from AS&S it will not be rolled. >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >Micheal Mims >SP290 Spreading its Wings Soon! >mailto:mikemims@pacbell.net >http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/4136/ >Irvine Ca >Fax 714.856.9417 Birch over 1.5 mm cant be rolled. but Mahog? Richard Parker Jaffrey, NH theparkers@monad.net http://top.monad.net/~theparkers/ ------------------------------ End of krnet-l-digest V2 #63 ****************************