From: owner-krnet-l-digest@teleport.com[SMTP:owner-krnet-l-digest@teleport.com] Sent: Sunday, April 05, 1998 12:34 AM To: krnet-l-digest@teleport.com Subject: krnet-l-digest V2 #65 krnet-l-digest Saturday, April 4 1998 Volume 02 : Number 065 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 15:54:09 -0500 From: "Richard Parker" Subject: KR: New VW Engine Anyone know anything about the Engine in the new VW bug? All I know is its 115 HP, I suspect its water cooled Richard Parker Jaffrey, NH ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Apr 1998 13:10:50 -0800 From: Micheal Mims Subject: Re: KR: New VW Engine Richard Parker wrote: > > Anyone know anything about the Engine in the new > VW bug? > > All I know is its 115 HP, I suspect its water cooled > > Richard Parker > Jaffrey, NH Yeah I sure do! Its the same engine in my 96 GTi. Inline water cooled 2.0 liter. I may buy one of these ugly litte cars in a few months. - -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Micheal Mims SP290 Spreading its Wings Soon! mailto:mikemims@pacbell.net http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/4136/ Irvine Ca Fax 714.856.9417 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 16:04:57 +1200 From: "David Stuart" Subject: KR: Revmaster Tales Kip and Bobby, My oil consumption is less than quater pint per 25 Hrs. Real interesting about the stainless steel guides and valves.Was that inlet and ex or just ex.Did not think you could use s/s guides and valves together. As for the cost of the valve grind. The shop charged one hour NZ $28-00 to reface the valves and lightly cut the seats. The medium and fine grinding paste I purchased myself cost NZ $12-00 and a new sucker and stick NZ $1-99. I already had some gasket cement for the rocker covers, so I guess the total cost was NZ $42-00. That would be about US $18-00 your side. Oh and Bobby I almost forgot. That whole exercise from go to wo took six hours including a lunch break at the shop and three coffee's back at the hanger. Hope this answers your questions ok. Regards Dave............... David.Stuart@xtra.co.nz ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 16:44:43 +1200 From: "David Stuart" Subject: KR: Carbs David , Why not consider a Stromberg CD-150 for your project.It is altitude compensating in its own right so you dont need to muck about with mixture controls. Thats what I run on my Revmaster and have had many happy hours of trouble free use. They are mainly found on British Morris and Austin cars and come in three different throat sizes. CD125--11/4'', CD150--11/2'' and CD175--13/4''. The 11/2'' CD150 is perfect for 1600cc through to 2000cc tops. Regards Dave......... David.Stuart@xtra.co.nz ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 16:14:03 +1200 From: "David Stuart" Subject: KR: VW engine RPM Its not only VW's that would break rods under back pressure and excessive revs.When do those drag engines blow? Don't most go on back pressure when slowing down? Regards Dave............... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 19:20:06 EST From: Kr2dream Subject: Re: KR: KR newsletter If I'm not on the list, please add my name. Bob Lasecki % Mitchell Aircraft Products, Inc. 910 Sherwood Dr. #20 Lake Bluff, IL 60044 Thanks. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 20:35:34 EST From: FLawshe Subject: Re: KR: KR-2 for sale Here is another interested in your KR. FLawshe@aol.com 504 863 2722. I have a C-150 if you are interested in a trade, or cash if you are only interested in sale. Thanks Fred ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 20:09:19 -0600 From: "Dean R. Collette, MD" Subject: KR: Boat Weights I was just wondering what the weight of the "boat" was. By boat I meant the wooden sides assembled top and bottom with the plywood attached, no tail feathers, no spar. All I'm looking for here is an estimate - nothing too precise. But, if anyone has weights in various construction stages near the "boat" point that will help. Mike - I looked through the archives that I have and didn't find anything. If you got a few responses to your inquiry a while back I sure would like to here about them. Dean Dean R. Collette, MD drdean@execpc.com Department of Radiology St. Luke's Medical Center, Milwaukee ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Apr 1998 18:43:16 -0800 From: Micheal Mims Subject: Re: KR: Boat Weights At 08:09 PM 4/3/98 -0600, you wrote: >Mike - I looked through the archives that I have and didn't find anything. >If you got a few responses to your inquiry a while back I sure would like to >here about them. > I don't remember the weights of the others but I think mine was about 70 pounds without the tail feathers and spars. I plan to weigh it again tomorrow in its current condition and will post the results here. Current condition= Boat on wheels with all glass work done, controls installed and working, outer spars installed without foam and glass. I am expecting it to be somewhere around 300 pounds. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Micheal Mims SP290 Spreading its Wings Soon! mailto:mikemims@pacbell.net http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/4136/ Irvine Ca Fax 714.856.9417 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 21:52:51 EST From: HAshraf Subject: Re: KR: New VW Engine Wait for a VR-6 (no relation to KR-2) version. I am also planning to trade in my Golf. By the way I think that the new Bug has the same engine as the Golf. (2.0 liter 115 HP) Haris ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 21:55:13 EST From: KRkip Subject: Re: KR: Revmaster Tales In a message dated 98-04-03 19:10:10 EST, you write: << Real interesting about the stainless steel guides and valves.Was that inlet and ex or just ex.Did not think you could use s/s guides and valves >> I didn't mean it to sound as if i used stainless valve and guides. The guides were silicon bronze and the valves were stainless. I hope this clears up the misunderstanding Kip ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 21:59:51 EST From: KRkip Subject: Re: KR: KR newsletter Please add my name to the list for the newsletter Joseph Lounsbury Rt 1 Box 2000 Lincoln Maine 04457 Thanks in advance Kip ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Apr 1998 20:56:07 -0600 From: Bobby Muse Subject: Re: KR: 40 Hour Test Phase. At 12:09 AM 4/3/98 EST, you wrote: >On my first homebuilt, FAA inspector Ray Guss told me it may be necessary to >take another pilot along as part of the flight test. I will not ask for >another opinion. > >Ron F > As a KR pilot, I believe taking anyone along during the initial flight rest would be a BIG mistake. Bobby Muse(N122B) bmuse@mindspring.com Wimberly, TX ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Apr 1998 19:32:06 -0800 From: Micheal Mims Subject: Re: KR: 40 Hour Test Phase. At 08:56 PM 4/3/98 -0600, you wrote: >As a KR pilot, I believe taking anyone along during the initial flight rest >would be a BIG mistake. > Thanks for speaking out about this Bobby, I haven't flown one much but I have talked to guys who have and flying two up should be reserved for when you have mastered the KR solo! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Micheal Mims SP290 Spreading its Wings Soon! mailto:mikemims@pacbell.net http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/4136/ Irvine Ca Fax 714.856.9417 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 20:25:48 -0700 From: jscott.pilot@juno.com (Jeffrey E Scott) Subject: Re: KR: 40 Hour Test Phase. On Fri, 03 Apr 1998 20:56:07 -0600 Bobby Muse writes: >At 12:09 AM 4/3/98 EST, you wrote: >>On my first homebuilt, FAA inspector Ray Guss told me it may be >>necessary to >>take another pilot along as part of the flight test. I will not ask for >>another opinion. >> >>Ron F >> > >As a KR pilot, I believe taking anyone along during the initial flight rest >would be a BIG mistake. > > > Bobby Muse(N122B) > bmuse@mindspring.com > Wimberly, TX I have to agree with Bobby on this, unless you are both pretty light and the test pilot is a well experienced KR pilot. Starting your test flying at gross with an aft CG is generally not a good thing to do. - ------- Jeff Scott - Los Alamos, NM jscott.pilot@juno.com See N1213W construction and first flight at http://home.hiwaay.net~langford/kjefs.html & http: //www.thuntek.net/~jeb/krpage.htm _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 21:57:59 -0600 From: "Mark Langford" Subject: KR: Gathering list? Did Jim Faughn or somebody else compile a list of those who registered at the Gathering last year? We usually get one in the mail at some point (thanks to his generousity). How about an html version? I only ask because some of you guys keep moving around on us... Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL email at langford@hiwaay.net KR2S project construction at http://fly.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 22:02:03 -0600 From: "Mark Langford" Subject: KR: Calkin's KR Just the other side of Chatanooga I came to the realization that I needed to concentrate on finishing up my version of the perfect KR. Danny from New York should be pretty happy by now. Sounded like a bargain to me, but I had some fuselage sanding to do. I didn't need that diversion. And I'll be flying soon enough. I appreciate Lloyd's giving me first shot at it though. He had quite a queue of folks waving $... Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL email at langford@hiwaay.net KR2S project construction at http://fly.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Apr 1998 20:05:27 -0800 From: Micheal Mims Subject: Re: KR: Calkin's KR At 10:02 PM 4/3/98 -0600, you wrote: >Just the other side of Chatanooga I came to the realization that I needed >to concentrate on finishing up my version of the perfect KR.>>> Damn! You know it was a plot to let me get that much further ahead don't you? :o) I will have foamed outer wings tomorrow!! WooHoo! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Micheal Mims SP290 Spreading its Wings Soon! mailto:mikemims@pacbell.net http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/4136/ Irvine Ca Fax 714.856.9417 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 04 Apr 1998 00:33:27 -0800 From: "Bruce S. Campbell" Subject: Re: KR: KR newsletter Steven A Eberhart wrote: > > I have to plead guilty to not getting the East Coast newsletters sent > along to the next receipient. If you are East of Wichita get me your > address and the newsletters will be on their way to you. Also, anyone > else on the Right coast want the newsletters give a post and you will be > on the list. > I've done this a couple of times but here goes again :) Bruce S. Campbell 405 South Willow Avenue Tampa, FL 33606 Bruce--Mr. Patience ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Apr 1998 23:09:49 -0500 From: Tom Andersen Subject: Re: KR: Weight and balance Dan, the way I figured the extension is to figure that the KR-2S balances correctly with a 189lb 2180VW w/elec at 41 inches from the CG, which is 7749 inch-pounds. Since my engine is 135lbs, I merely divide that into the 7749, which gives 57 inches, minus 41 inches for stock location gives a 16" extension needed. I figured with a 24lb BRS mounted in the extension, that leaves me about a 10" extension. On the other hand, moving a 189lb engine forward 1.5 inches is the same as adding 6.6lbs to the engine weight. Remember, your moment arm starts at the CG point (28% of wing chord), not at the firewall. What's 1.5 inches more on top of 41 inches? Practically nothing. - -Tom DAN469 wrote: > Tom, > I sure hope your wrong on that ten inch extention. I just bolted a revmaster > 2100 on my kr2s with the revmaster mount, but extented the mount from the > firewall 1.5 inches. I did not do any calculations but just hope my > cg falls in place. > Dan, ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Apr 1998 21:59:37 -0700 From: Ron Lee Subject: KR: SP290 wing glassing >I will have foamed outer wings tomorrow!! WooHoo! >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >Micheal Mims Are you doing the hotwire method (not with the sandable urethane foam!!!)? How did that turn out? Would be interested in your glassing method. Is it the same as a stock KR? When done and the glass is well cured, let us know how SOLID it feels. PS, my research has uncovered the likely meaning of SP 290. It is an 0-290 powered version of the KR. My rough engineering Fourier analysis indicates that it is an engine in the 140 hp class. As has been stated on this net on a previous occasion, that is too much hp for a KR. It will climb waaaaay to fast and will be prone to airspeeds that will make you go potty in your big boy pants. It will also force you to balance your control surfaces to avoid flutter at near-hypersonic speeds. The resulting empty weight increase will convince you to forego your GPS based moving map laptop. Then on your first cross- country trip, you will get lost..run out of gas..then be forced to dead-stick your plane at a remote strip. You will just barely have enough momentum to roll up to the gas pump as the airport manager is preparing to leave for the evening. And you live happily ever after. Ron Lee ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 04 Apr 1998 01:23:30 -0800 From: "Bruce S. Campbell" Subject: Re: KR: SP290 wing glassing Ron Lee wrote: > > PS, my research has uncovered the likely meaning of SP 290. It is an 0-290 > powered version of the KR. My rough engineering Fourier analysis indicates > that it is an engine in the 140 hp class. As has been stated on this....... > > Ron Lee The SP stands for stump puller--the 290 is the smallest class at tractor pulls. If it doesn't fly it's still got a life ;) Bruce S. Campbell Tampa, Florida ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Apr 1998 22:03:34 -0800 From: Micheal Mims Subject: Re: KR: SP290 wing glassing At 09:59 PM 4/3/98 -0700, you wrote: >Are you doing the hotwire method (not with the sandable urethane foam!!!)?>>>> Yes I am. >How did that turn out?>>> I will let you know. >>>Would be interested in your glassing method. Is it the same as a stock KR? When done and the glass is well cured, let us know how SOLID it feels.>> No it is not as plans (the glassing) I will be using a 22oz tri-ply cloth(3 unidirectional layers sewn together at various angles) It will be solid enough to sit on. >PS, my research has uncovered the likely meaning of SP 290. It is an 0-290 powered version of the KR. My rough engineering Fourier analysis indicates that it is an engine in the 140 hp class.>> No only 135 hp! :o) And no its not a O-290 powered KR its an SP! >As has been stated on this net on a previous occasion, that is too much hp for a KR. It will climb waaaaay to fast and will be prone to airspeeds that will make you go potty in your big boy pants.>> I hope so! :o) I have lots of pairs of pants. >It will also force you to balance your control surfaces to avoid flutter at >near-hypersonic speeds. Yep, they are done (or will be) > The resulting empty weight increase will convince you to forego your GPS based moving map laptop. >>> Believe it or not the 290 is only 40 pounds more than a VW (235 pounds) and 20 pounds lighter than a EA18 with a redrive!! >>>Then on your first cross- country trip, you will get lost..run out of gas..then be forced to dead-stick your plane at a remote strip.>>> I have a 30 gallon capacity if I ever go on long flights, lets see that's 4 hours at 180 mph for a range of 720 miles. Should be enough! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Micheal Mims SP290 Spreading its Wings Soon! mailto:mikemims@pacbell.net http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/4136/ Irvine Ca Fax 714.856.9417 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Apr 1998 01:05:34 EST From: MikeT nyc Subject: Re: KR: Re: KR Gear In a message dated 98-04-03 12:10:36 EST, you write: >> So did you ever let us all know why your previous KR-2S project became an >> SP290 other than the fascination with South Park? >> (which I've never seen) >> >> Rich Parker > >I felt there was a desire on the part of RR that I not call it a KR, >which is fine with me. I have made enough changes to call it a >something else anyway. Gee I wonder if there is any concern that I will >publish plans? :o) >SP=Sport Plane, 290= engine size in cubic inches. If this design turns out to be good and people start begging you to sell them plans, won't you be sorry you didn't call it the MM290? Mike Taglieri ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Apr 1998 01:05:42 EST From: MikeT nyc Subject: Re: KR: 40 Hour Test Phase. >>>On my first homebuilt, FAA inspector Ray Guss told me it may be >>>necessary to >>>take another pilot along as part of the flight test. I will not ask >for >>>another opinion. >>> >>>Ron F >>> >> >>As a KR pilot, I believe taking anyone along during the initial flight >rest >>would be a BIG mistake. >> >> >> Bobby Muse(N122B) >> bmuse@mindspring.com >> Wimberly, TX > >I have to agree with Bobby on this, unless you are both pretty light and >the test pilot is a well experienced KR pilot. Starting your test flying >at gross with an aft CG is generally not a good thing to do. Isn't it also totally illegal to carry a passenger during the test period? What was this inspector thinking? Mike Taglieri ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Apr 1998 22:11:54 -0800 From: Micheal Mims Subject: Re: KR: SP290 wing glassing At 01:23 AM 4/4/98 -0800, you wrote: The SP stands for stump puller--the 290 is the smallest class at tractor >pulls. If it doesn't fly it's still got a life ;) > >Bruce S. Campbell>> As outrageous as it sounds keep in mind the O-290 and the O-235 are the same engine. The 290 has a larger bore, that's all. Then again its only 30 cubic inches shy of a O-320! Hummm..................this could be scary! :o( Oh well my KR Oops, I mean SP has been substantially over built so I am really not worried at all about bolting up the 290. Basically what I have built is a poor mans RV6. It has an RV size engine and my wing is the RV4 wing. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Micheal Mims SP290 Spreading its Wings Soon! mailto:mikemims@pacbell.net http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/4136/ Irvine Ca Fax 714.856.9417 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Apr 1998 22:17:01 -0800 From: Micheal Mims Subject: Re: KR: 40 Hour Test Phase. At 01:05 AM 4/4/98 EST, you wrote: >Isn't it also totally illegal to carry a passenger during the test period? >What was this inspector thinking? > >Mike Taglieri > Well to get around that the person would be called a required crew member. But the sword swings both ways with this, if you get caught flying it solo (without all your crew members) than your busted all the same! :o) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Micheal Mims SP290 Spreading its Wings Soon! mailto:mikemims@pacbell.net http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/4136/ Irvine Ca Fax 714.856.9417 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 04 Apr 1998 00:17:15 -0600 From: Brian J Bland Subject: Re: KR: SP290 wing glassing At 10:11 PM 4/3/98 -0800, you wrote: > >As outrageous as it sounds keep in mind the O-290 and the O-235 are the same >engine. The 290 has a larger bore, that's all. Then again its only 30 >cubic inches shy of a O-320! Hummm..................this could be scary! :o( > >Oh well my KR Oops, I mean SP has been substantially over built so I am >really not worried at all about bolting up the 290. Basically what I have >built is a poor mans RV6. It has an RV size engine and my wing is the RV4 >wing. >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >Micheal Mims >SP290 Spreading its Wings Soon! For those of you who are thinking that he is mad for bolting the 0-290 on an airplane as small as the KR need to think again. This is NOT a small KR! It dwarfs a plansbuilt KR! I should know I saw it in person an sat in it. And just wait until you see mine in person! :) Brian J Bland Claremore, OK Another proud member of the Area51 BBA! bbland@busprod.com http://www.busprod.com/bbland/kr2s.htm ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Apr 1998 23:52:46 -0800 From: Micheal Mims Subject: Re: KR: 40 Hour Test Phase. At 08:56 PM 4/3/98 -0600, you wrote: >As a KR pilot, I believe taking anyone along during the initial flight rest >would be a BIG mistake. > Thanks for speaking out about this Bobby, I haven't flown one much but I have talked to guys who have and flying two up should be reserved for when you have mastered the KR solo! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Micheal Mims SP290 Spreading its Wings Soon! mailto:mikemims@pacbell.net http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/4136/ Irvine Ca Fax 714.856.9417 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Apr 1998 09:42:06 +0200 From: "J.F. de Wet" Subject: KR: FW: funny saying If at first you don't succeed, destroy all evidence that you tried. A clean desk is a sign of a cluttered desk drawer. Everyone has a photographic memory. Some don't have film. Put on your seatbelt...I wanna try something. The Universe is a figment of its own imagination. There's no future in time travel. Tonight's weather: Dark with continued darkness until dawn. Boycott shampoo! Demand the REAL poo! If you choke a smurf, what color does it turn? Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface. Radioactive cats have 18 half-lives. DCE seeks DTE for mutual exchange of data. A day without sunshine is like night. There are three kinds of people: Those who can count; those who can't. Who is General Failure and why is he reading my hard disk? What happens if you get scared half to death twice? Energizer Bunny arrested, charged with battery. Chocolate: the OTHER major food group. If you can't convince them, confuse them. Death is hereditary. I poured Spot remover on my dog. Now he's gone. I used to have an open mind but my brains kept falling out. Multitasking - messing up several things at once. Dyslexics of the world, untie! If at first you don't succeed, buy her another beer! Beat the 5 o'clock rush - Leave work at noon! I couldn't repair your brakes, so I made your horn louder. Arachibutyrophobia: fear of peanut butter sticking to roof of mouth. Shin: a device for finding furniture in the dark. How do you tell when you run out of invisible ink? Artificial intelligence is no match for natural stupidity. "There are no PROBLEMS in life, only opportunities to find SOLUTIONS." Regards: **************************************************************************************** Malcolm Van Harte ESKOM Engineering Division (Cape) Network Control RSA Tel : (021) 915-2877 Fax : (021) 915-2950 Cell : 082 7876756 Internet Address : Malcolm.VanHarte@Eskom.co.za *************************************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 04 Apr 1998 08:33:13 -0800 From: "Bruce S. Campbell" Subject: Re: KR: SP290 wing glassing Micheal Mims wrote: > > At 01:23 AM 4/4/98 -0800, you wrote: > The SP stands for stump puller--the 290 is the smallest class at tractor > >pulls. If it doesn't fly it's still got a life ;) > > > >Bruce S. Campbell>> > > As outrageous as it sounds keep in mind the O-290 and the O-235 are the same > engine. The 290 has a larger bore, that's all. Then again its only 30 > cubic inches shy of a O-320! Hummm..................this could be scary! :o( > It doesn't sound outrageous at all--it's the next logical step :0) If a guy can squeeze a 540 ci Lycoming engine into a GP4 we have a ways to go at the Skunk Works. Bruce S. Campbell Tampa, Florida ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 04 Apr 1998 08:12:09 -0600 From: Ed Janssen Subject: KR: Magazine Subscrip. KRnetters, From another list, the following: There are some attractive magazine prices at the following URL. For example a subscription to KitPlanes is available for $11.50 per year. Check it out. http://nbaf.com/USsubscriptions.html Ed Janssen ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Apr 1998 11:49:26 EST From: RFreibe131 Subject: Re: KR: Carbs David, I would be interested, but we just don't have cars like that around here. Where can I buy one, and are they available new. Of course, I don't mind if they're "flight tested" a modest amount. Thanks for any help you can offer, and thanks for the helpful info you've posted on KRNET. Ron Freiberger ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 04 Apr 1998 08:58:58 -0800 From: Micheal Mims Subject: Re: KR: SP290 wing glassing At 08:33 AM 4/4/98 -0800, you wrote: >It doesn't sound outrageous at all--it's the next logical step :0) >If a guy can squeeze a 540 ci Lycoming engine into a GP4 we have a ways to go at the Skunk Works. > >Bruce S. Campbell Dont forget the 540 powered LongEZs! (Berkuts) spelling? Or the 540 powered RV4s! (Harman Rockets) spelling again? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Micheal Mims SP290 Spreading its Wings Soon! mailto:mikemims@pacbell.net http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/4136/ Irvine Ca Fax 714.856.9417 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Apr 1998 12:15:46 EST From: RFreibe131 Subject: Re: KR: 40 Hour Test Phase.;afterthought So true; and who'd be willing to go? I've made 4, and they were all but one best viewed from the ground. One in a rebuilt (aka new) Jodel D-11 was a super pussycat. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Apr 1998 14:09:35 -0600 From: "Mark Langford" Subject: KR: landing light tip RFreibe131 wrote: > Your EAA Tech Counselor has a newsletter (June 96) with an excellent > description of landing lights from Wal-Mart .( Blaser Projector ultimate > driving light (2 for $39)).(p/n C8004K) > Also, there is a description of how to modify them for AC use. I got 'em, and they're nice! I've seen them before and assumed they were of "Cal Custom" quality, if you know what I mean. But 50 watt halogens in a very light package (half the weight of a 2x4 car sealed beam) with an adjustable mount make them very attractive. And the shape is amazingly similar to my airfoil. I'll bolt them to one of my stub wing ribs on their sides (there is no top or bottom). The bottom line is that I only need a 2"x2" plexi window for them to shine thru. I'll add a tiny panel below for bulb replacement, and I'll have an excellent system. Thanks, that was an excellent tip, as are most here on KRNet. I also appreciate the replies on ELT antenna mounting, etc. I don't usually bother to say "thanks" because I don't want to add to the clutter, but this one was just plain excellent! Now are there any tech counselor types (Jeff?) who have the June 96 issue of Tech Counselor that could shed some light on what I have to do to "modify them for aircraft use"? As far as I'm concerned, they're perfect like they are, but it'd be nice to know what that means. Thanks again, Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL email at langford@hiwaay.net KR2S project construction at http://fly.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1998 01:25:27 +0200 From: "J.F. de Wet" Subject: KR: FW: Carbs I got mine off a 2Lt BMW (150/175 CDET) needs very little modivications with regard to the removal of the choke system. Regards Kobus ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Apr 1998 19:41:18 EST From: HAshraf Subject: Re: KR: KR newsletter I am actually on the West coast, but would not mind be on the East coast waiting list. Haris ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Apr 1998 20:06:42 EST From: RFreibe131 Subject: Re: KR: landing light tip Well, the reason I could tell you about it is that I am a Tech Counselor. I can fax or send the article to you. Maybe can use my new scanner too. I'll be in touch. Ron Freiberger ... on the gear, with aluminum tanks in Fort Myers ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 04 Apr 1998 17:34:31 -0800 From: Micheal Mims Subject: KR: Airframe weight and cores Well just got home from the hanger and I have to say I had a ball! Hot wiring foam is actually FUN!! First the weight on my hog! "302 pounds" This is what is included in this weight. Basically the airframe minus instruments and paint. It consist of the fuselage with all filling done, controls installed, landing gear and wheels, brakes, fuel tanks and plumbing, seats, outer wing spars bolted on with foam laying on top of them, firewall, and that's about it. So if I add another 30 pounds glassing these outer wings I will be right at 330 pounds firewall aft. I don't think that's too bad considering the extra wood I put here and there for the big engine mod. Places I could have saved weight, landing gear (10 pounds) extra plywood and fiberglass inside the cockpit (5 pounds), fiberglass cloth on the wings (5 pounds) Tailwheel (2 pounds). So she could be 22 pounds lighter in my opinion but that's about it. Now for the fun stuff, while my wife Michelle applied varnish to the spars Brad and I hot wired some wing parts. You guys really should learn to hot wire because its a kick in the pants! We cut out some parts to make up the left outer wing today and they will require absolutely NO sanding! They are ready to micro and glass the way they are. One of the neatest things about hot wiring is there is no mess to clean up and you don't have to deal with all the urethane dust!! I took some pics but I need to get the film developed. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Micheal Mims SP290 Spreading its Wings Soon! mailto:mikemims@pacbell.net http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/4136/ Irvine Ca Fax 714.856.9417 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Apr 1998 21:26:30 EST From: EagleGator Subject: KR: KR Gathering Pre-Registration Hi gang! I know I'm jumping the gun a bit, but Brian Bland has once again posted a web page where you can pre-register for the gathering (Thanks Brian!!!). What this will do for us is allow us to compile all of the registration info before the gathering and have a name tag there waiting for you, courtesy of Randy Stein (Thanks Randy!!!). Here's the URL: http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/9904/survey.html More info to follow, but here is one tidbit to get you thinking. Steve Bennett of Great Plains Aircraft Supply will be there again this year, but this year you will get the opportunity to get some hands-on experience with building one of his engines up from scratch through running it on a test stand, all under Steve's expert supervision! This one seminar/workshop alone should make the trip worth while for all the folks planning to use VW power. Cheers! Rick Junkin EagleGator@aol.com richard.m.junkin@boeing.com St. Charles MO ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 04 Apr 1998 19:44:35 -0700 From: Ron Lee Subject: Re: KR: KR Gathering Pre-Registration >More info to follow, but here is one tidbit to get you thinking. Steve >Bennett of Great Plains Aircraft Supply will be there again this year, but >this year you will get the opportunity to get some hands-on experience with >building one of his engines up from scratch through running it on a test >stand, all under Steve's expert supervision! This one seminar/workshop alone >should make the trip worth while for all the folks planning to use VW power. > >Cheers! >Rick Junkin Amazing. When will this occur? oh boy! I need it. Sign me up. I may have to be sick (from work) for a few days. Ron Lee ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 04 Apr 1998 22:59:05 -0800 From: Ross Youngblood Subject: Re: KR: Tailwheel help!!! Tom, I'm a bit far south of you. I'm in Corvallis which is 92 miles S. of Portland, another 120 miles or so to Seattle/Tacoma. I think there are one or two KR NETTERS up there however, also check the Yellow pages and take a trip out to Boeing Surplus. You can find all kinds of good stuff there! (Don't forget to check out the drill bit section of the store!) -- Ross WAYLAND T. STOKES wrote: > I have to fly to Tacoma Washington Sunday night for 2 weeks and go to a > class at Ft. Lewis. Any good projects there that I could see. Ross where > do you live. > > Tom Stokes in Reno NV > > _____________________________________________________________________ > You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. > Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com > Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 04 Apr 1998 23:06:36 -0800 From: Ross Youngblood Subject: Re: KR: Boat Weights Dean, Double check your plans binder AND/OR the large drawings. I believe it is marked in the margin in one of these prints. The weight of the boat stage without the spars is listed, I think it is somthing like 72#. But don't quote me on that... I'm here trying to catch up on emails. If you can't find the weight, let me know and I will look it up and post. - -- Regards Ross Pdrdean wrote: > I was just wondering what the typical weight of the completed boat was. All > I need are rough estimates. > > Dean > drdean@execpc.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 04 Apr 1998 23:11:20 -0800 From: Ross Youngblood Subject: Re: KR: plywood Richard, Well, I think if you get it rolled, it will be unique... it would have to be steamed a bit to get it rolled without cracking, but if it's mil-spec plywood, thats what it's for. I would expect a large 4.5' x 8.5" cardboard box about 1/2" thick. -- Regards Ross Richard Parker wrote: > I'm waiting for my 4x8x3/32 mahog plywood to come from Wicks. Should > I tell my my shipping guy to expect it rolled or flat? Richard Parker > Jaffrey, NH > theparkers@monad.net > http://top.monad.net/~theparkers/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 04 Apr 1998 23:12:46 -0800 From: Ross Youngblood Subject: Re: KR: Gathering ideas Ron, I thought we were going to Perry again in '98. But CVO has two runways 9/27 and 13/35 (Corvallis,OR). But, you have to cross the Cascades, or go down the Columbia George to get here. -- Ross Ron Lee wrote: > Just to start some discussion on gathering site selection criteria, > I am starting a list. Obviously some items will count more than > others. > > 1) Multiple runways (for crosswinds) > 2) Adequate ramp area for multiple plane rides operations > 3) Low-cost hangar facilities > 4) Close hotels/free (low-cost) taxi service > 5) Restaurant on-site > 6) Open areas near airport for demo flights. > 7) US Location (subject to change: east/west coast/mid US) > 8) Potential for cool weather (better flight performance) > 9) Shade > 10) Seating facilities > 11) Facilities for evening BBQ > 12) Picture of Ron Lee in FBO office > > Ron "Primadona" Lee ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 04 Apr 1998 23:14:45 -0800 From: Ross Youngblood Subject: Re: KR: landing lights? Mark, There are some really nifty tiny spot halogen fog lights available now, I think they might work out kinda cool, but I don't know about heat, lamp beam etc. All I know is that they are really small... -- Ross Mark Langford wrote: > LightHeads, > > Anybody got any bright ideas for landing lights? Anything you tried and > would swear by now? If nobody tells me any different, I'll use two of > those 2" tall by 4" wide high beam lights (from a four lamp system) that > some recent cars have. They're only $20 at the parts house. > > Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL > email at langford@hiwaay.net > KR2S project construction at http://fly.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 04 Apr 1998 23:34:44 -0800 From: Ross Youngblood Subject: Re: KR: IFR KR2??? Thomas, Well, one of the KR's on my website (Go to http://www.teleport.com/~rossy/N541RY.htm), click on the N8575C (Gull Wing Canopy). This plane appeard to be IFR equipped, it had a Gyro, Horiz etc, however I don't know if it was IFR certified. In general I don't think that the KR would be a great IFR platform, but I think that if you wanted to go VFR on top etc, it might be possible. (I am not an IFR certified pilot, VFR day only 80+ hours today). I started building a KR as I thought it would be a terrific inexpensive way to maintain currency, and if I wanted to take the family someplace, I could rent a 172 or 182 for the occasional X-C trip. I haven't flown mine yet so all of this is TBD. I have to say however, that the building process for me has really been a journey. If I had known what a lifestyle commitment it was when I started, I don't think I would have begun. Having said that, I think I would recommend building an airplane to anyone who has the dream. It is really somthing, looking at an airplane that came out of several large and small UPS boxes, and one 4x8 cardboard box with three sheets of 3/32 plywood in it. Regarding the expense... for me, after 10 years, I think all kitplanes cost the same after 10 years. If you can do yours in 3-5 years, then the KR will save you money. I was given two terrific pieces of advise when I started. Never set a completion date, if you do, and you miss it , you are more likely to get discoraged. I forget the second tip, but I'm sure it was real good, must have been all that epoxy fumes...(just kidding). Building a KR has been one of the coolest things I have done in my life. Some people think I'm nuts, but I have most everyone else fooled. -- Regards Ross rossy@teleport.com Thomas Gatliff wrote: > Hello, > > Im kind of a newby to the whole KR-2 thing so please be patient.... > > Question: > All the KR-2's that I see are VFR .... Are there any IFR certified's out > there??? From my understanding of the FAR's all you have to to do is put in > the IFR equipment and have it certified at a FAA repair station... Is this > right??? > > P.S. I am considering buying a KR-2 for building some hours cheaply. Any > comments on this idea??? (good or bad) > > Thomas Gatliff > gatliff@mindspring.com ------------------------------ End of krnet-l-digest V2 #65 ****************************