From: owner-krnet-l-digest@teleport.com[SMTP:owner-krnet-l-digest@teleport.com] Sent: Friday, April 17, 1998 7:36 AM To: krnet-l-digest@teleport.com Subject: krnet-l-digest V2 #71 krnet-l-digest Friday, April 17 1998 Volume 02 : Number 071 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 23:07:37 -0400 From: "Mark Seastrand" Subject: KR: wheel spacers Mark Seastrand - Hollywood, (Southern), Maryland mseastrand@erols.com I was wondering how much wheel spacers would cost for an 89' suzuki samurai and also how much a lowering kit would cost. Thanx. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 23:26:08 EDT From: leperkins@juno.com (Lloyd Perkins,Jr.) Subject: KR: 5151 Mustang Sale ATTN: Some one out there wanted to but my 5151 kit at one time not long ago. Would you please respond again.. Tax man forces immediate sale. LEPERKINS@JUNO.COM or call (540)786-2838 Evenings.Or call at work at (804)222-7487. ask for Lloyd Regards, Lloyd _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 21:29:00 -0700 From: Micheal Mims Subject: KR: web oage stuff Sports fans, I uploaded a couple of pictures to my wings site (URL below). They are not the ones of the complete wing core but there are a few shots of Brad and I cutting out the leading edge of the left wing. The cores kinda look funky in the pictures, I guess because the flash reflected off all the little cells in the core? Anyway the cores came out really smooth but don't quite look it in the pics. http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/4136/wing.html zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Micheal Mims SP290 One Wing to go! mailto:mikemims@pacbell.net http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/4136/ Irvine Ca Fax 714.856.9417 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 22:23:52 -0600 From: jscott.pilot@juno.com (Jeffrey E Scott) Subject: Re: KR: Al's Soob-powered KR On Tue, 14 Apr 1998 05:57:26 PDT "Oscar Zuniga" writes: > > >>In a message dated 98-04-13 16:11:09 EDT, you write: >> >><< I've spent two hours in my Kr-2 (sob ea 81 1.84:1 reduction)and this is >> what I came up with: >> >> Any suggestions ?????? >> Al >> > >I will forward your post to the AirSoob list to see what ideas they may >have. For now, you have made Jeff Scott very happy about his C-85, >since your Soob seems not to be transferring all its HP to the airscrew >and Jeff thinks there is no way the liquid-cooled jobs can compare to >the air-cooled ones ;o) But 105 MPH doesn't seem right. > >Regards, > >Oscar Zuniga >Medford, Oregon Be nice now Oscar. You know that's not what I said. You'll have people out throwing rocks at my plane at the next gathering. :o) As long as Al has asked for suggestions, I'll submit my thoughts. I don't think we can just simply write off Al's Soob installation as a failure for Soobs. It's EXPERIMENTAL and probably will require some experimentation to get it right. I would suggest to Al that you might want to do some re-engineering of your Soob installation. Les palmer's Soob powered KR is significantly heavier, but still claims to make a 140 mph cruise. There's no reason why Al's can't do at least that well. Moving the radiator to an area that will induce much less drag would probably be very helpful. I see no reason why Al's lighter KR shouldn't be able to run circles around Les's with a little attention to drag reduction. You might also want to get with someone from a prop shop that knows propellor dynamics and propellor engineering. Tell them what you can turn for prop length, what your current reduction ratio is, what you would like to turn for engine RPM, then ask for the prop shops recommendation for prop speed and if they think a different reduction ratio would produce better thrust with the length of prop you are turning. Then have them build you a prop. Personally, I would recommend Clark Lydick of Performance Props as he will ship the prop back and forth with you several times and keep trimming the prop until does what you want at no extra cost. If you really want to do it yourself, try a ground adjustable Warp Drive or similar and keep tweeking the pitch until you find what works best. With the slower prop speed from the reduction, I would recommend using as long of a prop as your ground clearance will allow. For the record, it wasn't me that made the boat achor euphemism, so please don't throw rocks at my airplane. :o) - -Jeff - ------- Jeff Scott - Los Alamos, NM jscott.pilot@juno.com See N1213W construction and first flight at http://home.hiwaay.net~langford/kjefs.html & http: //www.thuntek.net/~jeb/krpage.htm _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 22:55:26 -0700 From: "John F. Esch" Subject: Re: KR: Why Gussets? I hate to say this but, I think this horse is dead John F. Esch Richard Parker wrote: > > This is what I did. I put the Epoxy on my gussets as if it were > wood > glue > > veerrry thiiiin. I later found out you should use plenty of epoxy > in the > > joint and wipe the rest away after clamping. > > What is that Saying? "If all else fails read the instructions." ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 00:09:50 -0700 From: "Martin Mulvey" Subject: Re: KR: '99 Gathering OKAY Guys, Here is your chance to show yourselves. I tried to get Janette up here a few years ago but she was committed elsewhere. It is a great show and as was said, the people are great to work with. We, in our chapter, have been dealing with them for a few years now for group attendance and have had great help. Have fun!! Marty - -----Original Message----- From: DC4FREE To: krnet-l@teleport.com Date: 14 April, 1998 18:32 Subject: Re: KR: '99 Gathering >The Arlington Fly-in is held the 2nd weekend in July and runs from the Wed. >before the 2nd Sat. thru Sunday. > >I've attended the last 5 years and can only recall 1 KR-2 in that time. > >The Fly-in folks are great to work with and would be happy to setup an area >for a >KR-2 group. They would love to have a workshop or class on building a KR in >one of the event tents. > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 21:55:00 +1200 From: "DAVID STUART" Subject: KR: Prop Info A quick thanks to all those who replied to my request for prop manufacturers. Brian Whatcotts list is exactly what we were after. Thank you Brian. Keep up the good work!..........David KR2-S David.Stuart@xtra.co.nz ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 11:20:03 EDT From: BSHADR Subject: KR: Revmaster Folks: I came across this on the quickie list. Interesting stuff. Paul writes about his Revmaster: Maintenance ... early Revmaster - check the tappet clearance every 25 hrs or so. Change the oil regularly. TT 910 hrs until the Bendix mags packed up ...... (bad installation put side load on the drive shaft, causing the Cam Followers to get hot and melt, resulting in a zero sized-gap an silence in the air). The mags were installed by a licence engineer (the ONLY licenced work ever done on the engine, I hasten to add). The compression after 900 hours was as good as the 25 hr mark ..... and it's performed flawlessly, even on 36 degree (Celcius) takoffs at AUW from Tangiers in Africa in the summer. Could have done with a turbo at 17000 once though on the World Record .... but that's another story ..... Overall my Revmaster has been, very reliable, smooth, quiet powerplant. I'd buy another! Burned 2.25 gal/hr in cruise at 60% solo. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 10:06:04 -0700 From: Micheal Mims Subject: KR: IMPs Sorry for the non-kr post but here is some info for those who were wondering: Plans for the Mini-Imp can be purchased from the Richard Steves company, 6958 Applewood Dr., Madison, WI 53719; call 608/833-5586. Plans cost is $200. - -- zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Micheal Mims SP290, One wing left! mailto:mikemims@pacbell.net http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/4136/ Irvine Ca Fax 714.856.9417 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 14:18:36 -0600 From: meassick@edison.nmhu.edu (Steven Meassick) Subject: KR: Parts for sale I have a KR-2 in the boat state that I will not be finishing anytime soon (new wife and kids). I have the following parts for sale: 1. fiberglass fuel tank 2. wing attach fittings. 3. control cables 4. plans for KR-2 5. newsletters up to 1.5 years ago. 6. fuselodge in boat stage I will accept any resonable offer for these items. Thanks - -- Steven Meassick Chair and Professor of Engineering New Mexico Highlands University Las Vegas, NM 87701 Phone: (505) 454-3314 FAX: (505) 454-3306 meassick@edison.nmhu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 12:07:40 -0700 From: "Tim Anderson" Subject: KR: Re: web oage stuff Mike, How did you cut the small hole through the length of the wing? Tim Anderson Stockton, CA tanderso@inreach.com - ---------- > From: Micheal Mims > To: krnet-l@teleport.com > Subject: KR: web oage stuff > Date: Tuesday, April 14, 1998 9:29 PM > > Sports fans, I uploaded a couple of pictures to my wings site (URL below). > They are not the ones of the complete wing core but there are a few shots of > Brad and I cutting out the leading edge of the left wing. The cores kinda > look funky in the pictures, I guess because the flash reflected off all the > little cells in the core? Anyway the cores came out really smooth but don't > quite look it in the pics. > > > http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/4136/wing.html > zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz > Micheal Mims > SP290 One Wing to go! > mailto:mikemims@pacbell.net > http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/4136/ > Irvine Ca > Fax 714.856.9417 > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 13:38:54 PDT From: "Oscar Zuniga" Subject: KR: Al's KR/Soob I'm forwarding some responses received from the AirSoob list on Al's need for performance improvement ideas. Here's one. >I'm not a KR expert by any means, but I used to lurk on that list and >have >read a lot of different posts about the KRs. One of the most significant >pieces of info that I saw repeated time and time again is that this >design >is very intolerant of overweight conditions (at least if constructed >according to plans). The weight of 858 lbs is a big flag to me. This is >a >design that was originally intended to have an empty weight of ~450 lbs, >from what I have read. I have even read some people's posts that say the >soob is not a good choice for the KR due to the weight. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 13:41:03 PDT From: "Oscar Zuniga" Subject: KR: Al's KR/Soob Here's another forward from the AirSoob list: >WOW I had an EA81 with a 1.84 :1 reduction and it swung a 72 inch prop >(Warp >3 blade) set at 14 degrees which works out to 58.5 pitch so I reckon that >he >has the screaming meemies and goes nowhere. The plane was draggier than a >KR2 (High wing dual struts) weighed in gross 1050 lbs, and gave a top >speed >of 95 knots (109.5 mph ) at 4500 rpm, cruise at 3,800 rpm was 85 knots ( >98 >mph ) . I would say he is way underpropped. Could he borrow an adjustable >prop somewhere to try. I always felt it was a bit under-propped at that >and >was more of a take-off prop rather than cruise, for it accelerated like a >horny Tiger and was airborne in about 7 - 8 seconds 200 ft. This is in >average weather 85 deg F. You need BIGGER PROP, and MORE BITE TOO. > >The Old Bold Pilot >http://www.ultra.net.au/~dbelbin/ > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 13:46:05 PDT From: "Oscar Zuniga" Subject: KR: Al's KR/Soob Here's another forward from the AirSoob list: > Yep, he needs a bunch of prop. Heck I'm turning a 54" X 48 pitch >prop >at 3400 rpm with a 2180cc VW. > >-- >Marty Hammersmith ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 13:48:06 PDT From: "Oscar Zuniga" Subject: KR: Al's KR/Soob And another forward from AirSoob: >Oscar... > >methinks the prop is underpitched. Should be about 53 or 54 inches by my >= >calculations. >What "prop stats" does your buddy refer to ? A simple, but reliable >formu= >la is rpm x >pitch in inches divided by 1200. It'll get you pretty close most of the = >time. Does he have >enough beef on the prop to allow repitch ? > >David Stroud >Christavia Mk 1 C-FDWS >EA 81 Soob Reductions > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 17:50:50 EDT From: KR2 616TJ Subject: KR: KR Sun & Fun. All you KR guys going down to Sun & Fun remember Steve B. is having a cookout Monday late afternoon, early evening. How about we use the Rand Robinson table as a message exchange center kind of place? I've bugged out of the KR Hilton (Budgetel) to stay in the volunteer park at the main gate (free lodging and great parties after the airshow every nite, everybody's invited). I'll be staying at lot 1 of this park, it's just to the left of the main gate, I'll be driving a dark blue Jeep Grand Cherokee and I'll put a Kentucky (K) flag on the drivers window. I'll be leaving 6:30 AM EST 4/16 to help with the ground control tower operations. If anyone would like to watch any of evening airshows from the ground control tower (Snoopy Tower), leave me a note on my truck, or at the RR table and I'll see about getting you up into it, or if you just want to watch ops after the airshow or during the day let me know, it is pretty impressive from up there. OH wait a minute, if any of you (Bobby, Tom, Troy..Bob Sr.) would like to trade a ride for tower time, or all you can eat shrimp, you provide the beer, at the voluteer park, I can do that too. Tax returns filed, beer on ice, Melody Mountains waiting in Alabama....Sun & Fun....life's good. Sorry for the non KR post, good luck Al.....hope it's just your prop. Dana Overall Richmond, KY http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/7085/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 15:38:09 -0700 From: Micheal Mims Subject: Re: KR: Re: web oage stuff Tim Anderson wrote: > > Mike, > > How did you cut the small hole through the length of the wing? > > Tim Anderson Same way I cut the big holes in the main wing section! :o) I cut a little slot in the template up to the hole. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 16:36:44 -0700 From: "John F. Esch" Subject: Re: KR: Parts for sale Steven How much for the WAF's and are they the good ones? John F. Esch Salem, OR Steven Meassick wrote: > I have a KR-2 in the boat state that I will not be finishing anytime > soon (new wife and kids). I have the following parts for sale: > 1. fiberglass fuel tank > 2. wing attach fittings. > 3. control cables > 4. plans for KR-2 > 5. newsletters up to 1.5 years ago. > 6. fuselodge in boat stage > > I will accept any resonable offer for these items. > > Thanks > > -- > Steven Meassick > Chair and Professor of Engineering > New Mexico Highlands University > Las Vegas, NM 87701 > > Phone: (505) 454-3314 > FAX: (505) 454-3306 > > meassick@edison.nmhu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 18:48:33 -0000 From: "Brian J Bland" Subject: KR:Parts for sale (maybe) This is to see if there would be anybody interested in buying parts from my modified KR project. The following is what I have and what I would like to get out of them: Diehl Taildragger main gear (New- no work done) $485.00 Spruce for center spar caps and horizontal tail spars $200.00 Skinned boat w/ KR-2 plans and 2S supplement $600.00 (might sell plans seperate for $200) Subaru parts and service manual (for EA-81 engine) $90.00 All prices include shipping except the boat (You figure that out) I might be willing to trade for plans for other aircraft (Dragonfly, Sonerai, Hummelbird, Team designs, Roger Mann designs, etc) A main reason for this possible sale is to allow me to concentrate on a new design that I have been contemplating for some time now. I intend to sale this stuff unless someone convinces me otherwise. Any comments? Let me know if their is any interest in buying or trading for any of this. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 15:57:58 -0800 From: Bruce Toscano Subject: Re: KR: '99 Gathering > The Arlington Fly-in is held the 2nd weekend in July and runs from the Wed. > before the 2nd Sat. thru Sunday. > > I've attended the last 5 years and can only recall 1 KR-2 in that time. I attended Arlington last year and searched everywhere for any KR and didn't find one (although I later saw some pictures with one there). I can't believe no one had an interest . . . I'm sure we can do better than that this year. Isn't anyone coming to Arlington in their KR??????? We're very friendly people up in the great Northwest . . . ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 20:32:55 EDT From: MikeT nyc Subject: KR: new e-mail address I have a second e-mail address, miketnyc@juno.com. I am not getting rid of the AOL address until I'm sure Juno works well (although it could hardly at this point work worse than AOL). Mike Taglieri ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 20:33:00 EDT From: MikeT nyc Subject: KR: Need to res*bscribe to list I am changing my e-mail address from AOL to Juno, partly because AOL ate all of my saved e-mail (including my carefully saved instructions for s*bscribing and uns*bscribing). Could the list administrator or someone else please send me info on how to do it? My new e-mail address is MikeTNYC@juno.com, which is identical to the old address except it has "Juno" where "AOL" used to be. Alternatively, just s*bscribe me under the new address, but do not uns*bscribe me yet under my old one. By the way, I am using * instead of a "u" in s*bscribe because some of the automatic list controller programs will do strange things if they see that word. Mike Taglieri ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 20:19:19 -0600 From: "gary" Subject: Re: KR: '99 Gathering - -----Original Message----- From: Bruce Toscano To: krnet-l@teleport.com Date: Wednesday, April 15, 1998 7:01 PM Subject: Re: KR: '99 Gathering >> The Arlington Fly-in is held the 2nd weekend in July and runs from the Wed. >> before the 2nd Sat. thru Sunday. >> >> I've attended the last 5 years and can only recall 1 KR-2 in that time. > >I attended Arlington last year and searched everywhere for any KR and >didn't find one (although I later saw some pictures with one there). > >I can't believe no one had an interest . . . I'm sure we can do better >than that this year. > >Isn't anyone coming to Arlington in their KR??????? > >We're very friendly people up in the great Northwest . . . There have been other kr's there Bruce . But you are right,- not many , I try to make it every year allso. The one that sticks in my mind however , was one year that it was overcast very bad , allmost all the time and they were only able to put on a somewhat abreviated airshow. A kr pilot and his olbviously IFR craft departed in some of the worst soup I've ever seen. I talked to the individual before he left and he said that he liked flying his kr and he was used to weather , and was comfortable with his aircraft in IFR conditions. One of the few pilots I ever met flying IFR in a KR. A GATHERING AT ARLINGTON WOULD BE FUN LOTS TO DO IN AREA FOR SPOUSES WHO MAY NOT BE INTERESTED IN A 100% AIRPLANE WEEK VICTORIA COMES TO MIND AND PIKE MARKET IN DOWNTOWN SEATTLE --WASHINGTON HAS TO BE ONE OF THE MOST BEAUTIFUL STATES IN THE COUNTRY ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 20:35:55 -0600 From: jscott.pilot@juno.com (Jeffrey E Scott) Subject: Re: KR: Parts for sale If anyone wants me to go scope out these parts for them, Steve is just on the other side of the mountain from me and I hve been looking for a good excuse to cruise over there to visit some friends. Maybe I can get Steve wound up and going on his bird again. ;o) Regards, Jeff - ------- Jeff Scott - Los Alamos, NM jscott.pilot@juno.com See N1213W construction and first flight at http://home.hiwaay.net~langford/kjefs.html & http: //www.thuntek.net/~jeb/krpage.htm On Wed, 15 Apr 1998 14:18:36 -0600 meassick@edison.nmhu.edu (Steven Meassick) writes: >I have a KR-2 in the boat state that I will not be finishing anytime >soon (new wife and kids). I have the following parts for sale: >1. fiberglass fuel tank >2. wing attach fittings. >3. control cables >4. plans for KR-2 >5. newsletters up to 1.5 years ago. >6. fuselodge in boat stage > >I will accept any resonable offer for these items. > >Thanks > >-- >Steven Meassick >Chair and Professor of Engineering >New Mexico Highlands University >Las Vegas, NM 87701 > >Phone: (505) 454-3314 >FAX: (505) 454-3306 > >meassick@edison.nmhu.edu > > > _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 23:19:28 -0500 From: "Dean R. Collette, MD" Subject: KR: New Wing Stuff Mark and Steve - Thanks for the info. I am doing everything in my power to avoid building the center spars, but it keeps calling me. When I reviewed the data that Ashok had posted things look terrific, but I noticed that he had only examined the power avail / velocity curves to about 70 hp and velocities to 200 mph. Several builders are incorporating engines bigger than 70 horses. When the final airfoil or airfoils are chosen is he planning to extend the analysis beyond this point? Dean drdean@execpc.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 22:10:22 -0700 From: MARVIN MCCOY Subject: Re: KR: Urethane Foam Bruce Toscano wrote: > > I've sent this post 4 times and it never appears . . . I wonder where > they all go? > > Dow shows 2 urethane foams available: Trymer 1800 @ 1.8 lbs density and > Trymer 2000 @ 2.05 lbs density. > > Which one is everybody (urethane users please) using? > > Price really is not a factor . . . there is some difference in strength > and weight. > > Thanks for your input . . . if this evey makes it. > > Bruce - --------------------- Bruce: I don't know if I can help you, but the urethane foam I bought was the 2 lb listed in Wicks catalog. I really don't know if it was dow or who made it. Marvin McCoy Seattle, WA. North end of Boeing field mr.marvin@worldnet.att.net - --------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 02:10:25 EDT From: MikeT nyc Subject: Re: KR:Parts for sale (maybe) >A main reason for this possible sale is to allow me to concentrate on a new >design that I have been contemplating for some time now. > >I intend to sale this stuff unless someone convinces me otherwise. Any >comments? Does this mean you're giving up on KR's and leaving this list? I would be sad to hear that, because you're one of the more knowledgeable people here. Mike Taglieri ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 08:20:13 -0700 From: Tom Crawford Subject: Re: KR: KR Sun & Fun. KR2 616TJ wrote: OH wait a minute, if any of you (Bobby, Tom, > Troy..Bob Sr.) would like to trade a ride for tower time, or all you can eat > shrimp, you provide the beer, at the voluteer park, I can do that too. > > Tax returns filed, beer on ice, Melody Mountains waiting in Alabama....Sun & > Fun....life's good. Let me tell you, it is a great feeling to watch that Hobbs meter turn to 40. Woo Hoo!! Nothing stopping me now, Sun & Fun here I come! Tom Crawford tomc@afn.org Gainesville, FL N262TC ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 06:04:41 PDT From: "Oscar Zuniga" Subject: KR: 40 Hrs. sign-off Tom wrote: >Let me tell you, it is a great feeling to watch that Hobbs meter turn to >40. Woo Hoo!! >Nothing stopping me now, Sun & Fun here I come! > Hey, two-tango-charlie: doesn't somebody have to sign you off first? How's your examiner for getting along with? Regards, Oscar Zuniga Medford, Oregon ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 11:20:35 -0700 From: "Bruce S. Campbell" Subject: Re: KR: KR Sun & Fun. Tom Crawford wrote: > > Let me tell you, it is a great feeling to watch that Hobbs meter turn >to 40. Woo Hoo!! > Nothing stopping me now, Sun & Fun here I come! > > Tom Crawford > tomc@afn.org > Gainesville, FL > N262TC All right Tom!!! See you there. Bruce S. Campbell Tampa, Florida ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 16:12:12 -0000 From: "Brian J Bland" Subject: KR: Re: 40 Hrs. sign-off - -----Original Message----- From: Oscar Zuniga To: krnet-l@teleport.com Date: Thursday, April 16, 1998 1:14 PM Subject: KR: 40 Hrs. sign-off >> >Hey, two-tango-charlie: doesn't somebody have to sign you off first? >How's your examiner for getting along with? > >Regards, > >Oscar Zuniga >Medford, Oregon > According to everything that I know the owner of the aircraft signs off in the log book that the test period was completed. Brian J. Bland Claremore, OK bbland@busprod.com http://www.busprod.com/bbland/kr2s.htm ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 09:57:55 +1200 From: "DAVID STUART" Subject: KR: Variable Pitch Propellors Is anyone interested in a variable pitch prop for their KR- VW or similar setup? They are the same type of prop that was fitted to that Titan Tornado that flew accross the US of A two months ago. For example- my static revs at present on my Rev Master 2100D are 3000 and that probably allows the engine to develop about 60HP.By going to fine pitch and bringing the static revs up to 3600RPM will allow the engine to develop near to the 75HP it is rated for. This is only for 30 seconds on initial take off then the pitch is brought back to a courser pitch for established climb and cruise.What it means is that your KR will leap off the runway with fine pitch and yet cruise at 120-130 kts in course pitch, and according to the manufacturer will give you something like 20% better fuel economy. Now thats real exciting to me! If anyone wants more info give me a yell...........David..............David.Stuart@xtra.co.nz ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 20:14:18 -0700 From: Tom Crawford Subject: Re: KR: Re: 40 Hrs. sign-off Brian J Bland wrote: > > -----Original Message----- > From: Oscar Zuniga > To: krnet-l@teleport.com > Date: Thursday, April 16, 1998 1:14 PM > Subject: KR: 40 Hrs. sign-off > > >> > >Hey, two-tango-charlie: doesn't somebody have to sign you off first? > >How's your examiner for getting along with? > > > >Regards, > > > >Oscar Zuniga > >Medford, Oregon > > > According to everything that I know the owner of the aircraft signs off in > the log book that the test period was completed. > > Brian J. Bland > Claremore, OK > > bbland@busprod.com > http://www.busprod.com/bbland/kr2s.htm You just have to write in the plane's log that the test period has been completed, and sign it. Done. Tom Crawford tomc@afn.org Gainesville, FL N262TC ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 18:43:54 -0500 From: Bobby Muse Subject: Re: KR: Flight Testing-update At 10:06 PM 4/11/98 -0600, you wrote: > >Bobby Muse > Are you Bob muses son? or ? I knew a Robert Muse years ago. garyglasgow@gomontana.com > > > Yes, I believe that we are the only father & son combo flying KRs. He is N28RM and I am N122B. Bobby Muse(N122B) bmuse@mindspring.com Wimberly, TX ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 18:58:32 -0500 From: Bobby Muse Subject: Re: KR: KR Sun & Fun. I need help from some of you guys or gals that have flown through the Northern Florida/Southern Alabama area of restricted fly zones. How or do you need to know or do to fly thru that area????? Or is it easy and the charts make it difficult? Bobby Muse(N122B) bmuse@mindspring.com Wimberly, TX ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 18:00:31 -0600 From: jscott.pilot@juno.com (Jeffrey E Scott) Subject: Re: KR: 40 Hrs. sign-off Oscar, You're on your own honor about the 40 hours. When you're done, you put an entry into the log book and it's done. Jeff - ------- Jeff Scott - Los Alamos, NM jscott.pilot@juno.com See N1213W construction and first flight at http://home.hiwaay.net~langford/kjefs.html & http: //www.thuntek.net/~jeb/krpage.htm On Thu, 16 Apr 1998 06:04:41 PDT "Oscar Zuniga" writes: >Tom wrote: > >>Let me tell you, it is a great feeling to watch that Hobbs meter turn > >to >>40. Woo Hoo!! >>Nothing stopping me now, Sun & Fun here I come! >> >Hey, two-tango-charlie: doesn't somebody have to sign you off first? >How's your examiner for getting along with? > >Regards, > >Oscar Zuniga >Medford, Oregon > >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 17:59:00 -0600 From: jscott.pilot@juno.com (Jeffrey E Scott) Subject: Re: KR: KR Sun & Fun. Congratulations Tom! It's nice to be free of those restrictions. BTW, saw a picture of your bird on your EAA chapter's web page. Looks sharp! - ------- Jeff Scott - Los Alamos, NM jscott.pilot@juno.com See N1213W construction and first flight at http://home.hiwaay.net~langford/kjefs.html & http: //www.thuntek.net/~jeb/krpage.htm On Thu, 16 Apr 1998 08:20:13 -0700 Tom Crawford writes: >KR2 616TJ wrote: > OH wait a minute, if any of you (Bobby, Tom, >> Troy..Bob Sr.) would like to trade a ride for tower time, or all you >can eat >> shrimp, you provide the beer, at the voluteer park, I can do that >too. >> >> Tax returns filed, beer on ice, Melody Mountains waiting in >Alabama....Sun & >> Fun....life's good. > >Let me tell you, it is a great feeling to watch that Hobbs meter turn >to >40. Woo Hoo!! >Nothing stopping me now, Sun & Fun here I come! > >Tom Crawford >tomc@afn.org >Gainesville, FL >N262TC > _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 17:42:51 PDT From: "Oscar Zuniga" Subject: KR: 40 Hrs. sign-off Brian wrote: >According to everything that I know the owner of the aircraft signs off in >the log book that the test period was completed. Oops! I thought Tom was on the EAA program (voluntary), and some sort of sign-off by 'designee' was needed. Oscar ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 19:59:44 From: Austin Clark Subject: Re: KR: KR Sun & Fun. At 18:58 4/16/98 -0500, you wrote: >I need help from some of you guys or gals that have flown through the >Northern Florida/Southern Alabama area of restricted fly zones. How or do >you need to know or do to fly thru that area????? Or is it easy and the >charts make it difficult? > > > > Bobby Muse(N122B) > bmuse@mindspring.com > Wimberly, TX Bobby, My experience is limited to only a couple times, but ATC pretty much walks you through. Just be ready to switch frequencies every few minutes. I was told by a CFI once that he recommends following the beach from Mobile Bay to the other side of Panama City. Hope this helps. Austin Clark Pascagoula, MS itac@datasync.com http://www.datasync.com/~itac/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 22:03:29, -0500 From: YCGB97A@prodigy.com (MR JEAN R VERON) Subject: Re: KR: KR Sun & Fun. Bobby Marty and I fly the VFR corridor 500 to 4000 agl. You only have to contact Elgin if you are going to penetrate the terminal area. A good moving mapm GPS makes it a walk in the park. Have fun. Jean N4DD ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 23:16:27 -0400 From: Dennis Ambrose Subject: Re: KR: Variable Pitch Propellors At 09:57 AM 4/17/98 +1200, you wrote: >Is anyone interested in a variable pitch prop for their KR- VW or similar >setup? They are the same type of prop that was fitted to that Titan Tornado >that flew accross the US of A two months ago. For example- my static revs >at present on my Rev Master 2100D are 3000 and that probably allows the >engine to develop about 60HP.By going to fine pitch and bringing the static >revs up to 3600RPM will allow the engine to develop near to the 75HP it is >rated for. This is only for 30 seconds on initial take off then the pitch >is brought back to a courser pitch for established climb and cruise.What it >means is that your KR will leap off the runway with fine pitch and yet >cruise at 120-130 kts in course pitch, and according to the manufacturer >will give you something like 20% better fuel economy. Now thats real >exciting to me! If anyone wants more info give me a >yell...........David..............David.Stuart@xtra.co.nz > David: How much are they, who makes them and are they recomended for/ approved for v.w.s?? Some non-wood props are known to break cranks. Regards Dennis (in Toronto) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 22:50:27 +1000 (EST) From: Peter Leonard Subject: KR: Weight Problem G-day I'm hoping some of you fellows can help me with some weight figures. I would like to know how much the "basic instruments" would weigh eg. magnetic compass, electric gryo, airspeed indicator, altimeter, engine tacho, oil pressure, CHT gauge and EGT gauge. Just the collective weight (not individual weights), ballpark figures will do. The ballpark weight of a propellor, any type will do composite or wooden, I just want to get an idea of how much they weigh. The weight of tyres, rims and brakes, front and rear and what size they are. The weight of the Diehl landing gear legs. Thanks in advance Peter Leonard pleonard@gil.com.au ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 09:54:56 -0400 From: Tom Andersen Subject: KR: Anyone near Tulsa OK going to SNF that could bring a cowling down? Is anyone going to Sun N Fun from the Tulsa OK area or passing by there that could pick up a cowling from Jean Veron? Jean is going to cut the cowling up and UPS it to me since motor freight would cost more than the cowling, but if anyone is coming here I would greatly appreciate the favor. It would save me some time and keep the cowl intact. - -Tom in Orlando ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 10:07:55 +0200 From: steveb@aviation.denel.co.za (Steve Boshoff) Subject: KR: Prop Types? Hi Guys I noted that a 54" prop was run on a 2180VW engine at 3400rpm. In a temp range of 273K to 310K the tip speed would be around 0.7Mach. What prop are they spinning as I was told that this is the extreme for a wooden prop and I am skeptical of running my prop at this Mach number. Steve in South Africa Steveb@aviation.denel.co.za ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 07:27:48 -0700 From: Micheal Mims Subject: Re: KR: Weight Problem At 10:50 PM 4/17/98 +1000, you wrote: >I would like to know how much the "basic instruments" would weigh eg. >magnetic compass, electric gryo, airspeed indicator, altimeter, engine >tacho, oil pressure, CHT gauge and EGT gauge. Just the collective weight(not individual weights), ballpark figures will do. > After its all plumed in,.. between 50 to 75 pounds depending on size instruments. >The ballpark weight of a propellor, any type will do composite or wooden, I just want to get an idea of how much they weigh. > 8 to 10 pounds >The weight of tyres, rims and brakes, front and rear and what size they are. > 25 pounds >The weight of the Diehl landing gear legs. > 18 pounds for the mains seems to come to mind, can someone verify? >Thanks in advance > >Peter Leonard >pleonard@gil.com.au > > zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Micheal Mims SP290 One Wing to go! mailto:mikemims@pacbell.net http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/4136/ Irvine Ca Fax 714.856.9417 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 07:37:13 -0700 From: Micheal Mims Subject: Re: KR: Prop Types? At 10:07 AM 4/16/98 +0200, you wrote: >Hi Guys >I noted that a 54" prop was run on a 2180VW engine at 3400rpm. In a temp range of 273K to 310K the tip speed would be around 0.7Mach. What prop are they spinning as I was told that this is the extreme for a wooden prop and I am skeptical of running my prop at this Mach number. >Steve in South Africa>> NO that's the right RPM for that diameter prop. Guys are spinning that fast over here and have been for some time now. We (hanger mate) have a 52x50 on a Revmaster 2100 and spin it up to 3500 rpm on a regular basis and have been for 4 years now. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Micheal Mims SP290 One Wing to go! mailto:mikemims@pacbell.net http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/4136/ Irvine Ca Fax 714.856.9417 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ------------------------------ End of krnet-l-digest V2 #71 ****************************