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krnet-l-digest        Friday, November 20 1998        Volume 02 : Number 186




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Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 20:24:26 -0600
From: Steve Bennett <gpasc@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: KR: MoGas

Richard Parker wrote:
> 
> >
> >I've been using mogas in my own kr set up at 7.3:1 since new.  steve
> 
> Which type? the article says you now have up to 4 possibilities.(not
> including octane levels) If it is any of the 3 RFG's I'd guess that
> because of your location your gas has corn in it.
> 
> Rich Parker
> 
> ______________________________________________________
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I use Amoco 93 unleaded premium----no corn(ethenol)  steve

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Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 20:51:48 -0700
From: jscott.pilot@juno.com (Jeffrey E Scott)
Subject: Re: KR: Canoopy contours

On Tue, 17 Nov 1998 15:25:06 -0800 Micheal Mims <mikemims@pacbell.net>
writes:

>If anyone is considering the Dragonfly Canopy I recommend that you 
>order
>it through Viking Aircraft.  The price is the same as buying direct 
>BUT
>Viking orders are processed way before individual orders so you will
>more than likely receive your canopy much quicker.  To top it off the
>Viking people (Pat Taylor and wife) are good people.
>

Actually, when calling the manufacturer directly, they quoted me a
different price every time, all of which ranged from $50 - $150 MORE than
buying through Viking.  Viking needs the business and will give you a
solid price that is the best you will find for this canopy. 

Jeff Scott - Los Alamos, NM
mailto:jscott.pilot@juno.com
See N1213W construction and first flight at
http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/kjeffs.html
http://www.thuntek.net/~jeb/krpage.htm


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Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 22:50:02 -0500
From: "WARRON GRAY" <WARRONFLYS@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: KR: Turbo wastegate/Posa carbs

- -----Original Message-----
From: Steve Bennett <gpasc@earthlink.net>
To: krnet-l@teleport.com <krnet-l@teleport.com>
Date: Tuesday, November 17, 1998 9:58 PM
Subject: Re: KR: Turbo wastegate/Posa carbs


Steve ,I agree totally with your opinion, unless you go for optimum
aaaaltitude i feel it is a waste of  time, energy,weight and complexity
Warron
>> >
>Personal opinion only.  Only place for a turbo on a VW or Sub is for
>maintaining seal level power at altitued in aircraft applications.  Not
>for boosting power.  Steve

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Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 23:42:46 -0500
From: "R.W. Moore" <rwmoore@alltel.net>
Subject: Re: KR: Canoopy contours

Where has Pat & Robin Taylor gone to ? They do not answer the phone in WISC.
I sure would like to know. They Are fine people.
R. W. Moore
KR 1 N115RM

- -----Original Message-----
From: Steve Bennett <gpasc@earthlink.net>
To: krnet-l@teleport.com <krnet-l@teleport.com>
Date: Tuesday, November 17, 1998 9:44 PM
Subject: Re: KR: Canoopy contours


>Micheal Mims wrote:
>>
>> Mark Langford wrote:
>> <<<<<To top it all off, there was only a $63 shipping charge on the $420
>> canopy... all the way to Alabama. It's good to hear the price is still
>> essentially the same. It seems that good will from an aircraft
>> manufacturer usually has a way of finding it's way back home...>>>>>
>> >
>>
>> If anyone is considering the Dragonfly Canopy I recommend that you order
>> it through Viking Aircraft.  The price is the same as buying direct BUT
>> Viking orders are processed way before individual orders so you will
>> more than likely receive your canopy much quicker.  To top it off the
>> Viking people (Pat Taylor and wife) are good people.
>>
>> --
>> zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
>> Micheal Mims
>> SP290 (Sky Pig 290) ,..Building ailerons and firewall now
>> mailto:mikemims@pacbell.net
>> http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/4136/
>> Irvine Ca
>> Fax 949.856.9417
>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>I have heard that Viking Aircraft was recetly sold to someone else.  As
>I can't confirm it, its only a rumor to date.  Steve
>

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Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 23:48:12 -0500
From: "R.W. Moore" <rwmoore@alltel.net>
Subject: Re: KR: MoGas

What Brand MOGAS do you use. What about AMACO white Gas?
RWM
N115RM 
- -----Original Message-----
From: Richard Parker <richontheroad@hotmail.com>
To: krnet-l@teleport.com <krnet-l@teleport.com>
Date: Tuesday, November 17, 1998 10:55 AM
Subject: Re: KR: MoGas


>
>
>>
>>I've been using mogas in my own kr set up at 7.3:1 since new.  steve
>
>
>Which type? the article says you now have up to 4 possibilities.(not 
>including octane levels) If it is any of the 3 RFG's I'd guess that 
>because of your location your gas has corn in it. 
>
>Rich Parker
>
>
>
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>

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Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 22:07:37 -0700
From: Wayne and Kathy <ktokarz@incentre.net>
Subject: Re: KR: KRNet Etiquette (repeat from September)

EagleGator@aol.com wrote:
> 
> It's been a couple of months, so based on the comments I received last time
> I'm posting this again. Please send all comments to EagleGator@aol.com.
> 
> A few rules I use to "KRNet" by, thought they might be helpful to share:
> 
> 1.  "Me too" doesn't add value to the thread.  If I don't have more than one
> sentence to post, I don't post, unless I'm giving a short answer to a KR-
> related question.
> 
> 2.  ALWAYS include a part of the post that you are replying to so that
> everyone else knows what you are talking about.  NEVER include the entire text
> of a long post with your reply, just enough of it to put your comments in
> context.
> 
> 3.  Humor is great, but don't overdo it.  Humor usually leads to a bunch of
> "me too" type posts.
> 
> 4.  Don't whine on the list.  Just like everything else, this is a slice of
> America, and we are all different types of people.  If you are offended by
> something someone says, take it up with them privately.  KRNet is not a
> political forum.
> 
> 5.  Judicious use of the "delete" key on email with subjects you're not
> interested in will save you time and frustration.
> 
> 6.  It's OK to occasionally post an off-topic question, just be sure to ask
> people to respond to you privately.
> 
> 7.  Always include your "tag" line so that people know who and where you are,
> as well as how to reach you for more details on your ideas. Also, try to put
> your comments in context with your information source - "I built mine this
> way...", "Based on my experience, I'd do it this way...", "I read this
> somewhere...", "My opinion is...".
> 8.  Never answer a post immediately if it has pissed you off.  Think about it
> for a while, and then respond or let it drop.  We will all thank you for it.
> 
> 9.  Thick skin is a virtue -- grow some and don't take things too personally.
> 
> 10.  Remember that we are here to help each other, and anything that we post
> that doesn't further that pursuit is wasted bandwidth.
> 
> That's all I can think of right now, and you need to know that these are
> lessons/practices I have learned the hard way.  If it appears that I'm
> pointing a finger at any one individual, remember that when you point at
> someone you have three fingers pointed back at yourself ... we've all been
> there.
> 
> Now, let's get back to building and flying!
> 
> Cheers,
> Rick Junkin
> EagleGator@aol.com
> St. Charles MO

I want to unsubscribe, but every time I email the unsubscribe thing it
doesn't recognize 'krnet'.  Any suggestions?

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Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 21:50:38 -0800
From: Mike Mims <mikemims@pacbell.net>
Subject: Re: KR: KRNet Etiquette (repeat from September)

Wayne and Kathy wrote:
> I want to unsubscribe, but every time I email the unsubscribe thing it
> doesn't recognize 'krnet'.  Any suggestions?\


Yes go to http://www.krnet.org/ and on the left side there is a link
called Sign-Up Page, clink on it and fill out the form and make sure you
change subscribe to unsubscribe.  If that fails do the following.

METHOD 2
Send an email to majordomo@lists.teleport.com with the message:
unsubscribe KRNET-L ktokarz@incentre.net 


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SP290 (Sky Pig 290) ,..Building Cowling now
mailto:mikemims@pacbell.net
http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/4136/
Irvine Ca
Fax 949.856.9417
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Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 22:06:07 -0800
From: Mike Mims <mikemims@pacbell.net>
Subject: Re: KR: RE: Cessna 152 Cabin Width

"Boulerice,Martin" wrote:
> From the 1980 Cessna 152 POH, cabin width is 39.75", mesured just below
> the doors windows.
> 
> Martin Boulerice
> Quebec, Canada

Boy they must have modified the doors a little on the newer 152s! :o) 

My C-150M book says close to 37 inches. Regardless if its 37 or 39 it
gives you a good idea of what a stock KR2 (32 to 33 inches) would feel
like if you have time in a C-150/152 with someone sitting beside you.


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http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/4136/
Irvine Ca
Fax 949.856.9417
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Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 21:30:36 -0800
From: Robert Covington <t88@primenet.com>
Subject: KR: Re:Cabin Width

>     I have been considering widening my cabin  width. 

Trent,

I am widening mine by 4 inches, maybe 5. As others have found out, the
place to check for your added width is at the rear spar, and not at the
widest point of the KR, which is more forward. That will give you the
actual increase you will have at the shoulders.

Robert Covington

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Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 22:39:47 -0800
From: Robert Covington <t88@primenet.com>
Subject: KR: Re:Cabin Width

>     I have been considering widening my cabin  width. 

Trent,

I am widening mine by 4 inches, maybe 5. As others have found out, the
place to check for your added width is at the rear spar, and not at the
widest point of the KR, which is more forward. That will give you the
actual increase you will have at the shoulders.

Robert Covington



(aplogies if this message is a duplicate, connection died at send)

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Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 06:15:37 -0800
From: Robert Covington <t88@primenet.com>
Subject: Re: KR: Re: Canopy

>I *really* want to make my own canopy.  Well, I'll even go so far to say
>that I *will* make my own canopy :)
>
>Here's my "foolproof" plan (BWG).....
>


How about sculpting the shape you want out of foam, then covering with
glass. Sand it until perfect.Apply mold release. Paint on some
plaster,overlay withwith plaster tape, secure from flexing with wood strips
placed where needed.

When dry,apply mold release, then lay up plaster (dental stone would be
better) on the inside. Get it to half inch or more thickness, and keep it
well braced (fragile).

Lift off the outer mold, then stick it all in the oven with the acrylic
laying over it, and melt until it approaches the proper contour. Could even
apply some kind of vacuum pressure maybe for best forming. Make sure the
plaster is well dried before heating, or kaboomey, splat.


Anyway,this method might be too ponderous/fragile to work well at such a
large scale, but was a thought.

Robert Covington

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Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 06:26:28 -0800
From: Robert Covington <t88@primenet.com>
Subject: Re: KR: Fairing gear legs

>I think Mike is on the right track as far as fairing the gear legs on
>his SP290.  I saw a technical article on drag, and they had a graph
>showing relative drag of different forms/shapes.  Taking a round tube
>shape and fairing it, even adding a "vee" shape to the trailing edge
>only, reduced the drag tremendously.  Those big legs out in the breeze
>can use a little help.

Hmm, must be about my post. :) I don't disagree that the legs should be
faired, it was only the front to back dimension that I questioned. Make
them like little Questair Ventures in profile, that should work nice for
drag reduction, and they would look like they aren't as long as the wheel
pant then. If Mike's gear legs didn't auto extend down to the runway to
automatically cushion landings that are a wee bit out of ideal, he could
use normal fairings anyway. :)

>
>Not only that, but the wide fairings will give Mike some billboard space
>so he can put on his sponsors' decals and logos.  Let's see... he'll
>have an Aircraft Spruce decal, one from Rand Robinson, Teledyne
>Continental, Piper, KRNet...right, Mike? ;o)


Now there is a good idea, Oscar. More room for "Sky Pig" themed art,
showgirls, etc. I can paint them for him if he wants.

Whatever Mike comes up with will be fine. With his plane climbing at 2500
FPM*, and doing 220 mph*, it can look however it wants.;)

(*Projected CALF figures)

Robert Covington
& Gumpy Whittaker,
CEO and President,CALF-BIAS
(Center for Aesthetic Leg Fairings, Bovine Institute of Aeronautical Studies)

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Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 06:31:14 PST
From: "Richard Parker" <richontheroad@hotmail.com>
Subject: KR: AOA  Angle of attack 

I have developed a panel mounted Angle of Attack/Stall Warning Gauge and 
alarm with optional Sideslip indicator that I plan on selling in the 
$500-800 range. 

Right now I'm starting to do some market research and thought I'd test 
the waters with you guys. 

Since there isnt anything in the market in this range (that I'm aware 
of) Do you guys feel that this is a fair price range and is it something 
that you would be incorporating into your A/C? 

My marketing literature isnt complete yet so I cant send out much info 
yet. 

Rich Parker
richontheroad@hotmail.com
http://top.monad.net/~theparkers/kr.htm


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Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 06:57:09 PST
From: "Oscar Zuniga" <taildrags@hotmail.com>
Subject: KR: KRNet Caps

Hello, Netters

I now have caps made up with the KRNet logo embroidered on.  No cheesy 
appliques.  These are white caps with adjustable headband.  They are 
$15.00 postpaid; I forgot who had asked, but if you are interested, 
email me privately.  Shirts are still available in all sizes for $30.  
Some sample coffee mugs are being made up right now; available soon.

Oscar Zuniga
Medford, Oregon

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Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 10:16:55 EST
From: Horn2004@aol.com
Subject: KR: Re: Canopy

In a message dated 11/18/98 8:19:43 AM, you wrote:

<<Lift off the outer mold, then stick it all in the oven with the acrylic
laying over it, and melt until it approaches the proper contour. Could even
apply some kind of vacuum pressure maybe for best forming. Make sure the
plaster is well dried before heating, or kaboomey, splat.>>

One thing to consider when forming a canopy...if you mess up and get an uneven
shape, all you need to do is re-heat the plastic and have another go at it. I
watched a canopy mfgr. in Dayton, OH "blow form" a LongEZ canopy which
developed a little wave in it while cooling. The guy swore a couple times and
then put the plastic back in the oven for a short time, then re-blew the
canopy and wound up with a perfect shape. 

Steve Horn
Dallas, TX
horn2004@aol.com

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Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 10:19:36 -0500
From: Robert McDonald <rob.mcdonald@forth.org>
Subject: Re: KR: MoGas

At 07:48 AM 11/17/98 PST, regarding MoGas, Richard Parker wrote:

>I scanned them both as gif files so there isnt a link to page 2 just 
>change the title in your browser address block from rfg1.gif to rfg2.gif
>
>http://top.monad.net/~theparkers/rfg1.gif
>http://top.monad.net/~theparkers/rfg2.gif

I have run Richard's GIF files through an OCR package and cleaned up the
resulting text. Does anybody want it?

Rob


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Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 09:39:05 -0800
From: Diamond Woodie SSG <autosup@lewis.army.mil>
Subject: KR: Atkins Rotary Engines

Those of you who are interested in the Atkins Rotary Engines, their web site
is:
http:\\www.atkinsrotary.com

Aviatorman@email.com <mailto:Aviatorman@email.com> 

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Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 14:29:19 -0500
From: "Tim Stone" <stonet@gnv.fdt.net>
Subject: Re: KR: Re: Canopy

- -----Original Message-----
From: Robert Covington <t88@primenet.com>


>>I *really* want to make my own canopy.  Well, I'll even go so far to say
that I *will* make my own canopy :)

snippage
>Robert Covington
>
Robert
Heres a site that might be of help in your endeavor.

http://www.wisil.recumbents.com/hpvbubbles.htm

Tim S.

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Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 15:56:16 -0500
From: "Wayne DeLisle Sr." <support@sestar.net>
Subject: Re: KR: Re: Canopy

I got a NOT Found on that url.

WD


At 02:29 PM 11/18/98 -0500, you wrote:
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Robert Covington <t88@primenet.com>
>
>
>>>I *really* want to make my own canopy.  Well, I'll even go so far to say
>that I *will* make my own canopy :)
>
>snippage
>>Robert Covington
>>
>Robert
>Heres a site that might be of help in your endeavor.
>
>http://www.wisil.recumbents.com/hpvbubbles.htm
>
>Tim S.
>
>
Wayne DeLisle Sr.
Email:support@sestar.net

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Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 18:31:24 -0600
From: Bobby Muse <bmuse@mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: KR: Turbo wastegate/Posa carbs

At 08:18 AM 11/13/98 EST, you wrote:
>I have a old posa super carb with a bunch of needles. If you are interested i
>would sell it reasonable. Try able kit planes for great subaru intake
>manifolds, at www.altimizer.com.
>Talk to ron.
>srmakish@aol.com
>

Steve, I would like to buy them from you @ the right price.

	Bobby Muse
	mailto:bmuse@mindspring.com
	Wimberly, TX

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Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 19:22:49 -0800
From: "Ronald R.  Eason Sr." <reason1@ficom.net>
Subject: KR: Re: AOA  Angle of attack 

Did you have this device at the Perry Flyin?  I my opinion it's a little
pricey but I haven't seen it yet.  If it sells to the KR Klan it should sell
to other groups.  I to have a something I want to test.  A Fuel Management
Board to manage pumping fuel from the Left and Right Wing Tanks to a Header
Tank Automatically.  Also, a Heads Up Air Speed and Engine Alarm reference
display.  Check it out at   jrl-engineering.com .

Ron

- -----Original Message-----
From: Richard Parker <richontheroad@hotmail.com>
To: krnet-l@teleport.com <krnet-l@teleport.com>
Date: Wednesday, November 18, 1998 6:37 AM
Subject: KR: AOA Angle of attack


>I have developed a panel mounted Angle of Attack/Stall Warning Gauge and
>alarm with optional Sideslip indicator that I plan on selling in the
>$500-800 range.
>

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Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 18:56:00 -0800
From: Mike Mims <mikemims@pacbell.net>
Subject: Re: KR: Re: AOA  Angle of attack

"Ronald R. Eason Sr." wrote:
> 
> Did you have this device at the Perry Flyin?  I my opinion it's a little  pricey but I haven't seen it yet. >>>>


There was a great article in SA (Sport Aviation) a few years back on how
to build an AOA meter out of an old airspeed indicator.  If I can find
it I will scan and post it.

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Micheal Mims
SP290 (Sky Pig 290) ,..Building Cowling now
mailto:mikemims@pacbell.net
http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/4136/
Irvine Ca
Fax 949.856.9417
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Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 19:21:51 -0800
From: Mike Mims <mikemims@pacbell.net>
Subject: Re: KR: Fairing gear legs

Robert Covington wrote:
 <<<<<Make them like little Questair Ventures in profile, that should
work nice for drag reduction, and they would look like they aren't as
long as the wheel pant then. >>>>

I was just going by the rule that everything should be 3.7 times as long
as it is wide for maximum aerodynamic efficiency.

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SP290 (Sky Pig 290) ,..Building Cowling now
mailto:mikemims@pacbell.net
http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/4136/
Irvine Ca
Fax 949.856.9417
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

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Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 22:06:14 -0800
From: Robert Covington <t88@primenet.com>
Subject: Re: KR: Fairing gear legs

>Robert Covington wrote:
> <<<<<Make them like little Questair Ventures in profile, that should
>work nice for drag reduction, and they would look like they aren't as
>long as the wheel pant then. >>>>
>
>I was just going by the rule that everything should be 3.7 times as long
>as it is wide for maximum aerodynamic efficiency.
>

>Micheal Mims

Mike, I didn't mean anything personal by my observations. They were only a
(humorously motivated) reference to the artist's simulation you posted.
Whatever you come up with will be fine and look fine. The Questair
observation was a reference to the 3.7 ratio you mention, as it is about
the only plane I have seen that actually approximates that ratio in real
life.

If I have been bad, put me to work sanding and/or painting when you are ready.


Robert

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Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 22:26:36 -0800
From: Mike Mims <mikemims@pacbell.net>
Subject: Re: KR: Fairing gear legs

Robert Covington wrote:
> Mike, I didn't mean anything personal by my observations. They were only a (humorously motivated) reference to the artist's simulation you posted. If I have been bad, put me to work sanding and/or painting when you are ready.
> 
> Robert

Oh so now your laughing at my art work huh?!?!  :o)  Well I agree they
look a little funny but that's what supposed to work.  You haven't even
begun to be bad!

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SP290 (Sky Pig 290) ,..Building Cowling now
mailto:mikemims@pacbell.net
http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/4136/
Irvine Ca
Fax 949.856.9417
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Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 01:09:53 EST
From: Elttes@aol.com
Subject: Re: KR: Re: GCS Prop

Thanks for the response Steve. I had heard from others that that was your
recommendation. Do you only recommend wood because of its better energy
absorbtion characteristics, its mass difference over the lighter composite
prop, or what? I am curious as to what the differences are. My guess would be
that the stiffer Warp Drive prop would tend to transmit more  of the load to
the bearings, therefore wearing the bearings out faster than a wood prop. but
I'm just shooting in the dark here. Any additional info would be greatly
appreciated. 

Rick

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Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 23:10:10 -0800
From: Robert Covington <t88@primenet.com>
Subject: Re: KR: Fairing gear legs (x-kr)

>You haven't even
>begun to be bad!

>Micheal Mims

If that's the case, then I offer you $299 for your completed plane.
I can pick up.

Sky Pig's are a bargain at any price, so it may as well be for that one. :)

Robert Covington

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Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 03:37:20 PST
From: "Richard Parker" <richontheroad@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: KR: MoGas

>>http://top.monad.net/~theparkers/rfg1.gif
>>http://top.monad.net/~theparkers/rfg2.gif
>
>I have run Richard's GIF files through an OCR package and cleaned up 
the
>resulting text. Does anybody want it?
>
>Rob
yeah, I do.   I couldnt find my OCR software under all the mess. I 
scanned it for OCR  Please e-mail it to me at 
theparkers@monad.net 

Rich Parker




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Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 23:02:52
From: Austin Clark <itac@datasync.com>
Subject: Re: KR: Re: Canopies

At 17:23 11/16/98 -0700, you wrote:

>I did buy my canopy from the manufacturer mentioned by Mike Mims below. 
>The best deal is to purchase it through Viking Aircraft and they will
>ahve the manufacturer ship it to you.  Don't overlook the shipping costs
>as it must be shipped via truck.  It's too big for UPS.  Long Beach to
>Northern New Mexico cost me $175 shipping.
>
>Jeff Scott - Los Alamos, NM

Could you post Vikings phone number?


Austin Clark
Pascagoula, MS
<mailto:itac@datasync.com>
<http://www.datasync.com/~itac/>

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Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 15:35:27 +0200
From: steveb@aviation.denel.co.za (Steve Boshoff)
Subject: KR: Landing Gear

Hi Guys
I am looking for Dan Deihls contact numbers + E mail address.
Can anybody help.
Thanks
Steve in South Africa
Steveb@aviation.denel.co.za

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Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 09:03:32 -0500
From: "Wayne DeLisle Sr." <support@sestar.net>
Subject: Re: KR: Landing Gear

WWW.diehlaero.com
dan@diehlaero.com

DIEHL AERO-NAUTICAL Co.
1855 North Elm,
Jenks OK, 74037
Tel. 918-299-4445
Fax: 918-299-4425




At 03:35 PM 11/19/98 +0200, you wrote:
>Hi Guys
>I am looking for Dan Deihls contact numbers + E mail address.
>Can anybody help.
>Thanks
>Steve in South Africa
>Steveb@aviation.denel.co.za
>
Wayne DeLisle Sr.
Email:support@sestar.net

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Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 08:58:36 EST
From: KR2616TJ@aol.com
Subject: Re: KR: Landing Gear

In a message dated 11/19/98 8:47:38 AM Eastern Standard Time,
steveb@aviation.denel.co.za writes:

<< I am looking for Dan Deihls contact numbers + E mail address. >>
Dan Diehl phone number 1-918-299-4445. Don't know of an e-mail.

Dana Overall
Richmond, KY
mailto:kr2616tj@aol.com
http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/7085/

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Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 11:39:06 -0500
From: "Wayne DeLisle Sr." <support@sestar.net>
Subject: Re: KR: Landing Gear

In my search for info on building a Type 4 VW aircraft engine, I came
across a fellow who is flying behind one with over 200 hours on it.

The guy purchased the plane with engine some time back and flies it
regularly.  

The engine appears to have been professionally built.

One item that interested me particularly was the assessory case.

It had the name Volkspower cast into it.  Does anyone know anything
about Volkspower, or if they are still in business??

Thanks for any info,

WD
Wayne DeLisle Sr.
Email:support@sestar.net

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Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 10:33:13 -0600
From: Steve Bennett <gpasc@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: KR: Landing Gear

Steve Boshoff wrote:
> 
> Hi Guys
> I am looking for Dan Deihls contact numbers + E mail address.
> Can anybody help.
> Thanks
> Steve in South Africa
> Steveb@aviation.denel.co.za
918 299 4444 phone
918 299 4425 fax

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Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 10:30:01 +0000
From: David Moore <dgmoore1@gte.net>
Subject: Re: KR: T4 

Netters,
There is a fellow in my local EAA chapter who has been flying behind a T4
with a reduction drive off the flywheel end for about 400 hrs. with no
problems. He has it installed in a Whittman T-8 Tailwind. This airplane
will climb like a home sick angel. Of course this is no stock engine.
I asked him about the problems with the broken cranks reported with the T4,
he said the problems are not a factor when a reduction is used off the
flywheel end. This is because, Porsche(VW) designed the power to be taken
off the flywheel end. And along with a reduction drive the engine just
doesn't see the torsional loads that a direct drive does. He built another
engine for a chapter member (president) that is installed in a Murphy Rebel
that has 100 trouble free hrs. on it.

Dave Moore


At 11:39 AM 11/19/98 -0500, you wrote:
>In my search for info on building a Type 4 VW aircraft engine, I came
>across a fellow who is flying behind one with over 200 hours on it.
>
>The guy purchased the plane with engine some time back and flies it
>regularly.  
>
>The engine appears to have been professionally built.
>
>One item that interested me particularly was the assessory case.
>
>
>WD
>Wayne DeLisle Sr.
>Email:support@sestar.net
>
>
David G. Moore
dgmoore1@gte.net
Henderson, Nevada

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Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 18:57:05 -0700
From: jscott.pilot@Juno.Com (Jeffrey E Scott)
Subject: KR: Re: Canopies

On Wed, 18 Nov 1998 23:02:52 Austin Clark <itac@datasync.com> writes:

>>
>>Jeff Scott - Los Alamos, NM
>
>Could you post Vikings phone number?
>
>
>Austin Clark

The numbers I have for Viking Aircraft is :
(414) 723-1048
(414) 723-1049 (FAX)

The sent me a note at the time saying "Please tell other KR builders
about our canopies and they can purchase them from us."  Hope they'll
still there.  There are very nice people.

Jeff Scott - Los Alamos, NM
mailto:jscott.pilot@juno.com
See N1213W construction and first flight at
http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/kjeffs.html
http://www.thuntek.net/~jeb/krpage.htm

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Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 23:56:38 -0800
From: "Tom Kilgore" <lvav8r@vegas.infi.net>
Subject: Re: KR: T4 

David, Please see if you can get some details on this engine and reduction
drive and post on the net. TIA!

Tom Kilgore
Las Vegas, NV
lvav8r@vegas.infi.net
http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Launchpad/1444/page1.htm
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- -----Original Message-----
From: David Moore <dgmoore1@gte.net>
To: krnet-l@teleport.com <krnet-l@teleport.com>
Date: Thursday, November 19, 1998 11:02 AM
Subject: Re: KR: T4


>Netters,
>There is a fellow in my local EAA chapter who has been flying behind a T4
>with a reduction drive off the flywheel end for about 400 hrs. with no
>problems. He has it installed in a Whittman T-8 Tailwind. This airplane
>will climb like a home sick angel. Of course this is no stock engine.
>I asked him about the problems with the broken cranks reported with the T4,
>he said the problems are not a factor when a reduction is used off the
>flywheel end. This is because, Porsche(VW) designed the power to be taken
>off the flywheel end. And along with a reduction drive the engine just
>doesn't see the torsional loads that a direct drive does. He built another
>engine for a chapter member (president) that is installed in a Murphy Rebel
>that has 100 trouble free hrs. on it.
>
>Dave Moore
>
>
>At 11:39 AM 11/19/98 -0500, you wrote:
>>In my search for info on building a Type 4 VW aircraft engine, I came
>>across a fellow who is flying behind one with over 200 hours on it.
>>
>>The guy purchased the plane with engine some time back and flies it
>>regularly.
>>
>>The engine appears to have been professionally built.
>>
>>One item that interested me particularly was the assessory case.
>>
>>
>>WD
>>Wayne DeLisle Sr.
>>Email:support@sestar.net
>>
>>
>David G. Moore
>dgmoore1@gte.net
>Henderson, Nevada
>

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Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 05:38:48 PST
From: "Richard Parker" <richontheroad@hotmail.com>
Subject: KR: Plywood  Flooring

Is the 1/4 inch plywood that is layed on top of the 3/32 used on the 
forward floor structural?  Or is it just to keep your feet from going 
through and for mounting rudder pedals. If its not structural I dont see 
why I need aircraft grade versus a high grade I can get locally.

Rich Parker
Jaffrey, NH

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Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 07:54:55 -0800
From: Micheal Mims <mikemims@pacbell.net>
Subject: Re: KR: Plywood  Flooring

Richard Parker wrote:
> 
> Is the 1/4 inch plywood that is layed on top of the 3/32 used on the
> forward floor structural?  Or is it just to keep your feet from going
> through and for mounting rudder pedals. If its not structural I dont see
> why I need aircraft grade versus a high grade I can get locally.

I would say yes as it acts as sort of a shear web to keep things square
up front.

- -- 
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Micheal Mims
SP290 (Sky Pig 290) ,..Building ailerons and firewall now
mailto:mikemims@pacbell.net
http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/4136/
Irvine Ca
Fax 949.856.9417
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Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 13:00:09 -0800
From: Ross Youngblood <rossy@teleport.com>
Subject: Re: KR: KRNet Etiquette (repeat from September)

Mike Mims wrote:
> 
> Wayne and Kathy wrote:
> > I want to unsubscribe, but every time I email the unsubscribe thing it
> > doesn't recognize 'krnet'.  Any suggestions?\
> 
> Yes go to http://www.krnet.org/ and on the left side there is a link
> called Sign-Up Page, clink on it and fill out the form and make sure you
> change subscribe to unsubscribe.  If that fails do the following.
> 
> METHOD 2
> Send an email to majordomo@lists.teleport.com with the message:
> unsubscribe KRNET-L ktokarz@incentre.net
> 

Actually, I think majordomo will want krnet-l in LOWER case.  At any
rate,
I have unsubscribed them...

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Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 12:54:44 -0800
From: Ross Youngblood <rossy@teleport.com>
Subject: Re: KR: GCS Prop

Kr2jm@aol.com wrote:
> 
> Has any one heard of a three bladed ground adjustable wooden prop?  One of our
> EAA Chapter members saw one, and the only name he could find on it is the
> letters "GCS."
> 
> Jim Morehead
> kr2jm@aol.com

I have seen one... my hangar mate has one.  I believe this is detailed
in 
the original (March 1974?) issue of Sport Aviation, where the first KR-2
is
highlighted, I don't know if these are still available.  I did see one
two
blade ground adjustable wooden prop at Perry, (I thought It was two
bladed).

- -- Ross
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  Staff Technical Specialist  voicemail: (800)538-6838 x 1632
  Schlumberger SABER	      Bus Line:  (541)714-1754
  Corvallis,Oregon            mailto:rossy@saber.slb.com

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Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 15:58:36 EST
From: EagleGator@aol.com
Subject: KR: Fwd: I need some help

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In a message dated 11/20/98 9:53:10 AM Central Standard Time,
kabuby@infonet.com.mx writes:

> Hello.
>   
>  My name is Jacobo Zaiback, i live in the hi mountains of Mexico country, i 
> own a little VW-powered plane and i am intereted in to install a turbo to my
> VW-1835cc.
>   
>  Do you know where could i find information about "Turbo Kits" or sombody 
> that already has one installed is his airplane?
>   
>  I would really appreciate all the help.
>   
>  Thank you very much.
>  and excuse me if this is not the place to start searching.
>  please accept my apologize.
>   
>  Sincerely    Jacobo Zaiback
>  

KRNet Turboheads,

Can one of you help this guy out? I have a turbo Revmaster, but don't pretend
to be smart enough to build up a turbo retrofit. Thanks!

Cheers,
Rick Junkin
EagleGator@aol.com
St. Charles MO

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Hello.
 
My name is Jacobo Zaiback, i live in the hi mountains of Mexico country, i=
 own
a little VW-powered plane and i am intereted in to install a turbo to my
VW-1835cc.
 
Do you know where could i find information about "Turbo Kits" or sombody t=
hat
already has one installed is his airplane?
 
I would really appreciate all the help.
 
Thank you very much.
and excuse me if this is not the place to start searching.
please accept my apologize.
 
Sincerely    Jacobo Zaiback

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