From: KR-net users group digest[SMTP:kr-net@telelists.com] Sent: Friday, January 22, 1999 12:13 AM To: kr-net digest recipients Subject: kr-net digest: January 21, 1999 KR-net users group Digest for Thursday, January 21, 1999. 1. Fw: retract gear 2. Troy's progress 3. Re: Retract Gear 4. Re: Retract Gear 5. RE: Troy's progress 6. Test 7. Re: Test 8. New bird comes in a little heavy? 9. Dragonfly Canopy Dimensions ... 10. Re: Dragonfly Canopy Dimensions ... 11. Re: Dragonfly Canopy Dimensions ... 12. Trim Systems 13. Re: Trim Systems 14. Re: Trim Systems 15. Re: Trim Systems 16. RE: Dragonfly Canopy Dimensions ... 17. Re: Trim Systems 18. RE: New bird comes in a little heavy? 19. Re: Dragonfly Canopy Dimensions ... 20. Re: Trim Systems ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Fw: retract gear From: "bennett family" Date: Thu, 21 Jan 99 20:16:42 PST X-Message-Number: 1 ---------- > Date: Thursday, 21 January 1999 20:05:57 > From: benfam > To: kr-net@telelists.com > Subject: retract gear > > G'day Doug > I went out to the bomber and checked those measurements that you > mentioned and this is they. The distance from the top rear corner of = the > spring bar to the spar (gear extended) is 1 7/16". The angle formed = between > the spar and the top surface of the spring bar is approximately 76 degr= ees. > The distance between the face of the spar and the C/L of the wheel axle= is > about 6 1/8", along way short of the 7 1/2" inches that you stated. = I then > checked my plans for some kind of measurement however all that I could = find > was " the gear legs and wheels should be in the most forward location > possible when locked down" (obviously). ref page 36 plans issue january= 1990. > From the photos that I have perused and they are many, my gear and whee= ls look > to be in the correct position. Yes Adelaide is the capital of the sta= te of > South Australia. > Hope this stuff helps. > > regards Malcolm Bennett (Adelaide) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Troy's progress From: "Mark Langford" Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 06:43:53 -0000 X-Message-Number: 2 KRNetHeads, Some folks have been asking how Troy Petteway is coming with his reconstruction after his little accident. You might remember that about a year ago his engine quit at low altitude forcing a landing on a narrow curvy road. His KR couldn't handle the curves, and he broke off one gear leg, boogered up a wing, and broke his cowling and carburetor. He's now finishing up the repair job, with Ellison throttle body, AS5046 airfoil, larger horizontal stabilizer and rudder, along with a lot more wind cheating ideas than before. I went to visit last Sunday night. Not a good time, as that's when all the tornados hit middle Tennessee. A tornado missed us by a mile, and this ain't horseshoes! Lots of hail on the hangar roof, and we got to watch the walls "breathe" while Troy was glassing his wings. You can see about 20 pictures of his wing glassing event at: http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/troy/ He will be on the web and KRNet soon, so start saving up those questions for him. Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama mailto:langford@hiwaay.net see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Retract Gear From: "Doug Peyton" Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 04:47:21 PST X-Message-Number: 3 To Michael Taglieri: Yes, I was speaking of "Gear Lock Arms" in my explanation, and my latch lock is bolted to the ends of the each gear lock arm. I had purchased Rex Taylor's drawings for his "Gear Latch System", and got my idea from his drawings. So I have a spring-loaded pin which slips inside of the box beams (para 6.12, page 36) which are bolted on top of the spring bar. So the pins don't go into the fuselage at all, they merely lock the gear lock arms into their proper positions on the receiving box beams. >To: "KR-net users group" >Subject: [kr-net] Re: Retract Gear >From: miketnyc@juno.com (Michael C. Taglieri) >Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 03:02:22 EST >Reply-To: "KR-net users group" > >Sounds interesting, but I don't quite follow it, maybe because I don't know what part you mean by "gear latch lever." Do you mean you have the aluminum box with the pin and spring inside attached to the end of the gear lock arms (p.36) themselves? If so, what part of the fuselage doesthe pin go into when the lever latches, or do you mean something completely different? > >On Sun, 17 Jan 1999 04:26:09 PST "doug peyton" >writes: >> I installed a small aluminum box on the end of each gear latch >>lever with a cut-off 1/4" bolt running through each box and into the >>"mousetrap." The bolts are spring-loaded and extend into the >>"mousetrap" about 3/4". I drilled a small hole through each 1/4" bolt for a cotter key and washer which the spring pushes against. I have lanyards tied under each bolt-head for pulling the pins free (towards the front of the airplane) when it is time to retract the gear. Two bolts hold each small aluminum box to the latch levers, and the spring inside each of the small boxes keeps the pin (the 1/4" bolt) well inside of the "mousetrap." ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Retract Gear From: "Doug Peyton" Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 04:55:29 PST X-Message-Number: 4 To Richard McCall: I don't have a picture; I haven't learned how to put pictures in my e-mail. But anyway my lock is a spring-loaded pin, whose housing is bolted to the outer ends of each gear lock arm, which slips inside of the receiving box beams about 1/2" when the gear lock arms are in the down position. It works on the same principle as the latch on your bedroom door. If you can tell me how to make pictures, please do so off-net. Kindest Regards, Doug Peyton. Stuttgart >From: "Richard McCall" >To: "KR-net users group" >Subject: [kr-net] Re: Retract Gear >Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 13:34:29 -0600 >Reply-To: "KR-net users group" > >Interesting. Got a picture? > >-----Original Message----- >From: doug peyton >To: KR-net users group >Date: Sunday, January 17, 1999 7:29 AM >Subject: [kr-net] Re: Retract Gear > > >> I installed a small aluminum box on the end of each gear latch >>lever with a cut-off 1/4" bolt running through each box and into the >>"mousetrap." The bolts are spring-loaded and extend into the >>"mousetrap" about 3/4". I drilled a small hole through each 1/4" bolt >>for a cotter key and washer which the spring pushes against. I have >>lanyards tied under each bolt-head for pulling the pins free (towards >>the front of the airplane) when it is time to retract the gear. Two >>bolts hold each small aluminum box to the latch levers, and the spring >>inside each of the small boxes keeps the pin (the 1/4" bolt) well inside >>of the "mousetrap." >> >> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: Michael C. Taglieri >>>To: KR-net users group >>>Date: Saturday, January 16, 1999 6:33 PM >>>Subject: [kr-net] Re: Retract Gear >>> >>> >>>The pin-locking system sounds like overkill to me. I was thinking that >>you could just have a mechanism that holds down the ends of the latches >>on the "mousetraps" after they click in -- maybe a sliding latch across >>the top of them, or a cable attached to the ends of them that pulls >>them down tight. >> >>>>>Ed Janssen >>>In the meantime, I'd like to hear from people building (or flying) >>>>>the classic retractible gear design. >>> >> >> >>______________________________________________________ >>Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com >> >>--- >>You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: rmccall@oz-online.net >>To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-17800J@telelists.com >> >> > > >--- >You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: doug_peyton@hotmail.com >To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-17800J@telelists.com > > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: RE: Troy's progress From: "Blandford, Carlton C" Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 15:55:42 +0200 X-Message-Number: 5 This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01BE4545.C0907E2C Content-Type: text/plain Hi Mark, I seem to be having a problem sending mail to all users on the net, unfortunately I do not have permanent access to the net so I send via email only, do you maybe have the full address for me if its not to much trouble. One thing I would like to ask, dose anyone have a stress analysis on the engine mounting point of the stock KR2. I'm lead to believe that the KR2 max engine weight is 220 pounds. What is the maximum weight engine one can mount bearing in mind the KR is stressed at 6G's gross. Any comments?? Thks > -----Original Message----- > From: Mark Langford [SMTP:langford@hiwaay.net] > Sent: 21 January 1999 08:44 > To: KR-net users group > Subject: [kr-net] Troy's progress > > KRNetHeads, > > Some folks have been asking how Troy Petteway is coming with his > reconstruction after his little accident. You might remember that about a > year ago his engine quit at low altitude forcing a landing on a narrow > curvy > road. His KR couldn't handle the curves, and he broke off one gear leg, > boogered up a wing, and broke his cowling and carburetor. He's now > finishing up the repair job, with Ellison throttle body, AS5046 airfoil, > larger horizontal stabilizer and rudder, along with a lot more wind > cheating > ideas than before. > > I went to visit last Sunday night. Not a good time, as that's when all > the > tornados hit middle Tennessee. A tornado missed us by a mile, and this > ain't horseshoes! Lots of hail on the hangar roof, and we got to watch > the > walls "breathe" while Troy was glassing his wings. > > You can see about 20 pictures of his wing glassing event at: > > http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/troy/ > > He will be on the web and KRNet soon, so start saving up those questions > for > him. > > Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama > mailto:langford@hiwaay.net > see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford > > > > > --- > You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: CBlandford@mail.sbic.co.za > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-17800J@telelists.com ------_=_NextPart_001_01BE4545.C0907E2C Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: [kr-net] Troy's progress

Hi Mark,
I seem to be having = a problem sending mail to all users on the net, unfortunately I  = do not have permanent access to the net so I send via email only, do = you maybe have the full address for me if its not to much = trouble.

One thing I would = like to ask, dose anyone have a stress analysis on the engine mounting = point of the stock KR2. I'm lead to believe that the KR2 max engine = weight is 220 pounds. What is the maximum weight engine one can mount = bearing in mind the KR is stressed at 6G's gross.

Any = comments??
Thks

    -----Original Message-----
    From:   Mark Langford [SMTP:langford@hiwaay.net]
    Sent:   21 January 1999 08:44
    To:     KR-net users group
    Subject:       = [kr-net] Troy's progress

    KRNetHeads,

    Some folks = have been asking how Troy Petteway is coming with his
    reconstruction after his little accident.  You might remember = that about a
    year ago his = engine quit at low altitude forcing a landing on a narrow curvy
    road.  = His KR couldn't handle the curves, and he broke off one gear = leg,
    boogered up a = wing, and broke his cowling and carburetor.  He's now
    finishing up = the repair job, with Ellison throttle body, AS5046 airfoil,
    larger = horizontal stabilizer and rudder, along with a lot more wind = cheating
    ideas than = before.

    I went to = visit last Sunday night.  Not a good time, as that's when all = the
    tornados hit = middle Tennessee.  A tornado missed us by a mile, and this
    ain't = horseshoes!  Lots of hail on the hangar roof, and we got to watch = the
    walls = "breathe" while Troy was glassing his wings.

    You can see = about 20 pictures of his wing glassing event at:

    http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/troy/

    He will be on = the web and KRNet soon, so start saving up those questions for
    him.

    Mark = Langford,  Huntsville, Alabama
    mailto:langford@hiwaay.net
    see KR2S = project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford




    ---
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    To = unsubscribe send a blank email to = leave-kr-net-17800J@telelists.com

------_=_NextPart_001_01BE4545.C0907E2C-- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Test From: "Brian J. Bland" Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 11:00:00 -0600 X-Message-Number: 6 Just checking to see if my new address is working or not. Brian J Bland Claremore, OK Mail to: brianbland@netzero.net http://www.flight2000.com/hangar/KR-2S/ ________________________________________________________ NetZero - We believe in a FREE Internet. Shouldn't you? Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Test From: "Rod Kelso" Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 10:29:06 -0700 X-Message-Number: 7 Its working fine in Colorado Rod Kelso ---------- > From: Brian J. Bland > To: KR-net users group > Subject: [kr-net] Test > Date: Thursday, January 21, 1999 10:00 AM > > Just checking to see if my new address is working or not. > > Brian J Bland > Claremore, OK > > Mail to: brianbland@netzero.net > http://www.flight2000.com/hangar/KR-2S/ > > ________________________________________________________ > NetZero - We believe in a FREE Internet. Shouldn't you? > Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at > http://www.netzero.net/download.html > > --- > You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: rbk@orci.com > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-17800J@telelists.com > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: New bird comes in a little heavy? From: "Mark Langford" Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 13:46:03 -0000 X-Message-Number: 8 KRNetters, I got this message today along with a very nice picture that I'll spare y= ou. Anybody care to comment on this (copy to the email address below, since I don't think they're on KRNet yet). ..................................... N998MG IS FINELY DONE!!! AFTER 4 YEARS OF BUILDING, I=92M TAKING HER TO T= HE AIRPORT SATURDAY 1-23-99. I AM GOING TO START TAXI TESTING AND HOPE TO F= LY SOON. I DO HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS ABOUT THE WEIGHT OF THE AIRCRAFT AND WOU= LD LIKE SOME FEEDBACK. THE PLANE CAME IN A LITTLE HEAVY; 700LBS. EMPTY. TH= E PLANE IS ALL STOCK WITH AN 1835 VW WITH A 52/52 PROP. MY QUESTION IS WHA= T EXPECTATIONS SHOULD I HAVE, ESPECIALLY AT FULL GROSS? THE WEIGHT AND BALANCE SHEET IS BELOW. EMAIL MSGTLG@MSN.COM HOME PHONE IS (712) 778-2449, OR WRITE: MIKE GARBEZ 48483 CHESTNUT ROAD GRISWOLD, IA 51535. ................................................................... Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama mailto:langford@hiwaay.net see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Dragonfly Canopy Dimensions ... From: "Albert Pecoraro" Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 15:13:23 EST X-Message-Number: 9 Netters, Could someone with a Dragonfly Canopy do me a favor? ... I need a stencil outline of the part of the canopy that mates with the fuselage. In other words, if you were to place the canopy on a sheet of paper and trace the outline ... Or, if someone has used the Dragonfly canopy can tell me what the new cross-member widths are at each of the affected nodes and I can trace it myself ... I want to get an idea of the width of this canopy because I may use it for my KR-2S. Please e-mail me direct Thanks Albert Pecoraro Kentwood, MI 49508 616-281-3828 (H) 616-247-2803 (W) apec97@hotmail.com http://fly.to/hangar-AP <--- Now it's ready! KR-2S - Spruce just arrived! Waiting for ply ... Machined my own Wing Attach Fittings ... Built my table ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Dragonfly Canopy Dimensions ... From: "Richard Parker" Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 13:47:52 PST X-Message-Number: 10 It depends on how wide your fuselage is, how high you mount it and where you place it front to back. Mark Langford has a drawing of it on his web page but I dont think it will help much. best thing to do is get your hands on one. Rich >From: "Albert Pecoraro" >To: "KR-net users group" >Subject: [kr-net] Dragonfly Canopy Dimensions ... >Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 15:13:23 EST >Reply-To: "KR-net users group" > >Netters, > >Could someone with a Dragonfly Canopy do me a favor? ... >I need a stencil outline of the part of the canopy that mates with the >fuselage. In other words, if you were to place the canopy on a sheet of >paper and trace the outline ... Or, if someone has used the Dragonfly >canopy can tell me what the new cross-member widths are at each of the >affected nodes and I can trace it myself ... > >I want to get an idea of the width of this canopy because I may use it >for my KR-2S. > >Please e-mail me direct > >Thanks > >Albert Pecoraro >Kentwood, MI 49508 >616-281-3828 (H) >616-247-2803 (W) >apec97@hotmail.com >http://fly.to/hangar-AP <--- Now it's ready! >KR-2S - Spruce just arrived! Waiting for ply ... >Machined my own Wing Attach Fittings ... >Built my table > >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > >--- >You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: richontheroad@hotmail.com >To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-17800J@telelists.com > > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Dragonfly Canopy Dimensions ... From: "Mark Langford" Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 15:58:32 -0000 X-Message-Number: 11 Albert, The Dragonfly is very pliable and will fit just about any shape you want it to fit, particularly in the rear. I have a CAD cross section I'll email you of the shape that I used on the aft-most end of the canopy. The front just sits on top of the forward deck rather nicely. What kind of file format do you want it in? Or do you just want a dimensioned drawing? I can send a file now, but a dimensioned drawing will take a while. Bottom line is that the aft end is about 16" high, width is whatever you want it to stretch to, and upper "corners" have about a 6" radius. Email me privately and I'll fix you up, one way or another... Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama mailto:langford@hiwaay.net see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford -----Original Message----- From: Albert Pecoraro To: KR-net users group Date: Thursday, January 21, 1999 8:13 PM Subject: [kr-net] Dragonfly Canopy Dimensions ... >Netters, > >Could someone with a Dragonfly Canopy do me a favor? ... >I need a stencil outline of the part of the canopy that mates with the >fuselage. In other words, if you were to place the canopy on a sheet of >paper and trace the outline ... Or, if someone has used the Dragonfly >canopy can tell me what the new cross-member widths are at each of the >affected nodes and I can trace it myself ... > >I want to get an idea of the width of this canopy because I may use it >for my KR-2S. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Trim Systems From: "Dean Collette" Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 17:43:26 -0600 X-Message-Number: 12 Netters, I know awhile back there was a discussion about using RC servos for the elevator trim tab, but after looking back through things, I can't find if somebody had a simple setup for this. What was the general consensus? Is it worth looking into this or just go with the MAC and be done with it? Dean mailto:drdean@execpc.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Trim Systems From: KR2616TJ@aol.com Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 19:30:53 EST X-Message-Number: 13 In a message dated 1/21/99 6:40:09 PM Eastern Standard Time, drdean@execpc.com writes: << I know awhile back there was a discussion about using RC servos for the elevator trim tab, but after looking back through things, I can't find if somebody had a simple setup for this. What was the general consensus? Is it worth looking into this or just go with the MAC and be done with it? Dean >> I believe Tom Anderson has done the calculations on which RC servo will work. I used the MAC servo. It fits perfectly into the elevator and offers three different "throw" lengths. In addition to the servo you get a real nice position indicator to go on your instrument panel. I know the MAC is pricier than a RC deal but you get all the wiring, a rocker switch, position indicator and it makes for a nice arrangement. Look at Mark's new pictures of Troy's plane, he is going the RC route. Dana Overall Richmond, KY mailto:kr2616tj@aol.com http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/7085/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Trim Systems From: Douglas Dorfmeier Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 17:43:03 -0800 X-Message-Number: 14 KR2616TJ@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 1/21/99 6:40:09 PM Eastern Standard Time, drdean@execpc.com > writes: > > << I know awhile back there was a discussion about using RC servos for the > elevator trim tab, but after looking back through things, I can't find if > somebody had a simple setup for this. What was the general consensus? Is it > worth looking into this or just go with the MAC and be done with it? > > Dean >> > > I believe Tom Anderson has done the calculations on which RC servo will work. > I used the MAC servo. It fits perfectly into the elevator and offers three > different "throw" lengths. In addition to the servo you get a real nice > position indicator to go on your instrument panel. I know the MAC is pricier > than a RC deal but you get all the wiring, a rocker switch, position indicator > and it makes for a nice arrangement. Look at Mark's new pictures of Troy's > plane, he is going the RC route. > > Dana Overall > Richmond, KY > mailto:kr2616tj@aol.com > http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/7085/ > > --- > You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: doug.dorfmeier@worldnet.att.net > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-17800J@telelists.com Who sells the MAC Servo? Is there a web page that gives information on the unit? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Trim Systems From: "Robert R. Lee" Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 21:51:54 -0500 X-Message-Number: 15 I have installed 1/4 scale rc servos on the trim tabs of my KR but it has not yet flown so this is information only not a recomendation. These are the servos that control the 1/4 scale planes, not tiny servos! I found a sale and purchased four servos for $200. I have developed a circuit board that provides the manual trim and also accepts gyro inputs for autopilot capability. I have done ground tests with a test rig and the gyro kept the test plane flying straight and level for 200 hours. The real test comes after the bird flys. It is a simple circuit to build that controls the servos. The whole thing can be had for under a hundred dollars, excpet for the autopilot turn and bank which I think I paid $150 for rebuilt. Regards, Bob Lee N52BL ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: RE: Dragonfly Canopy Dimensions ... From: "Mark Langford" Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 22:09:12 -0600 X-Message-Number: 16 > Could someone with a Dragonfly Canopy do me a favor? ... Albert, I finally got around to posting the outline of MY aft edge of my Dragonfly canopy at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/cnpy_aft.jpg . I made mine just as you planned to, by mounting the canopy to the plane, then tracing around it onto a piece of paper taped to plywood. I then made measurements using a radial coordinate system, and transferred the averaged (left and right) numbers to points in space, and developed the 3-D CAD model of the canopy you see on my web page at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/kcf.html . . You'll discover that I lied about the 6" radius. It's 12.5. But the jpeg should give you a pretty good clue of what the Dragonfly cross-section looks like. Sorry I didn't heed your request to email you privately, but I figured some other folks could use the info too. Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama mailto:langford@hiwaay.net see KR2S N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Trim Systems From: "Michael C. Taglieri" Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 02:03:49 EST X-Message-Number: 17 One of the recent KR Newsletters has an article comparing several different ways of doing servo-controlled trim. Mike Taglieri ------------------------------------------------------- "May your life be full of lawyers" -- Mexican curse ------------------------------------------------------- ><< I know awhile back there was a discussion about using RC servos for >the > elevator trim tab, but after looking back through things, I can't >find if > somebody had a simple setup for this. What was the general consensus? >Is it > worth looking into this or just go with the MAC and be done with it? > > Dean >> > >I believe Tom Anderson has done the calculations on which RC servo >will work. >I used the MAC servo. It fits perfectly into the elevator and offers >three >different "throw" lengths. In addition to the servo you get a real >nice >position indicator to go on your instrument panel. I know the MAC is >pricier >than a RC deal but you get all the wiring, a rocker switch, position >indicator >and it makes for a nice arrangement. Look at Mark's new pictures of >Troy's >plane, he is going the RC route. > >Dana Overall >Richmond, KY >mailto:kr2616tj@aol.com >http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/7085/ > >--- >You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: miketnyc@juno.com >To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-17800J@telelists.com > > ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: RE: New bird comes in a little heavy? From: "Blandford, Carlton C" Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 09:12:49 +0200 X-Message-Number: 18 This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01BE45D6.9BA669C8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I don't feel this weight is much of a problem, as long as you have the "HP" up front to pull the load. With two persons on board this becomes quite difficult to handle on the ground. We have one in this country flying at 700 pound and it flys 100%, this has a 2L Turbo installed rated at 80HP at 3400rpm. My bird comes in at 740 pounds but i have 115HP up front, this one is scheduled to fly on 6/2/99. regards Carlton South Africa > -----Original Message----- > From: Mark Langford [SMTP:langford@hiwaay.net] > Sent: 21 January 1999 03:46 > To: KR-net users group > Cc: MSGTLG@MSN.COM > Subject: [kr-net] New bird comes in a little heavy? > > > KRNetters, > > I got this message today along with a very nice picture that I'll spare > you. > Anybody care to comment on this (copy to the email address below, since I > don't think they're on KRNet yet). > > ..................................... > > N998MG IS FINELY DONE!!! AFTER 4 YEARS OF BUILDING, I'M TAKING HER TO THE > AIRPORT SATURDAY 1-23-99. I AM GOING TO START TAXI TESTING AND HOPE TO > FLY > SOON. I DO HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS ABOUT THE WEIGHT OF THE AIRCRAFT AND > WOULD > LIKE SOME FEEDBACK. THE PLANE CAME IN A LITTLE HEAVY; 700LBS. EMPTY. THE > PLANE IS ALL STOCK WITH AN 1835 VW WITH A 52/52 PROP. MY QUESTION IS WHAT > EXPECTATIONS SHOULD I HAVE, ESPECIALLY AT FULL GROSS? THE WEIGHT AND > BALANCE SHEET IS BELOW. EMAIL MSGTLG@MSN.COM > HOME PHONE IS (712) 778-2449, OR WRITE: MIKE GARBEZ 48483 CHESTNUT ROAD > GRISWOLD, IA 51535. > > ................................................................... > > Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama > mailto:langford@hiwaay.net > see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford > > > > > --- > You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: CBlandford@mail.sbic.co.za > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-17800J@telelists.com ------_=_NextPart_001_01BE45D6.9BA669C8 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: [kr-net] New bird comes in a little heavy?

I don't feel this = weight is  much of a problem, as long as you have the = "HP" up front to pull the load.
With two persons on = board this becomes quite difficult to handle on the ground. We have one = in this country flying at 700 pound and it flys 100%, this has a 2L = Turbo installed rated at 80HP at 3400rpm.

My bird comes in at = 740 pounds but i have 115HP up front, this one is scheduled to fly on = 6/2/99.

regards
Carlton
South Africa  =

    -----Original Message-----
    From:   Mark Langford [SMTP:langford@hiwaay.net]
    Sent:   21 January 1999 03:46
    To:     KR-net users group
    Cc:     MSGTLG@MSN.COM
    Subject:       = [kr-net] New bird comes in a little = heavy?


    KRNetters,

    I got this = message today along with a very nice picture that I'll spare = you.
    Anybody care = to comment on this (copy to the email address below, since I
    don't think = they're on KRNet yet).

    .....................................

    N998MG IS = FINELY DONE!!! AFTER 4 YEARS OF BUILDING, I'M TAKING HER TO THE
    AIRPORT = SATURDAY 1-23-99.  I AM GOING TO START TAXI TESTING AND HOPE TO = FLY
    SOON.  I = DO HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS ABOUT THE WEIGHT OF THE AIRCRAFT AND = WOULD
    LIKE SOME = FEEDBACK.  THE PLANE CAME IN A LITTLE HEAVY; 700LBS. EMPTY.  = THE
    PLANE IS ALL = STOCK WITH AN 1835 VW WITH A 52/52 PROP.  MY QUESTION IS = WHAT
    EXPECTATIONS = SHOULD I HAVE,  ESPECIALLY AT FULL GROSS?  THE WEIGHT = AND
    BALANCE SHEET = IS BELOW.  EMAIL MSGTLG@MSN.COM
    HOME PHONE IS = (712) 778-2449, OR WRITE: MIKE GARBEZ 48483 CHESTNUT ROAD
    GRISWOLD, = IA  51535.

    ...................................................................=

    Mark = Langford,  Huntsville, Alabama
    mailto:langford@hiwaay.net
    see KR2S = project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford




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------_=_NextPart_001_01BE45D6.9BA669C8-- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Dragonfly Canopy Dimensions ... From: Mike Mims Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 18:44:47 -0800 X-Message-Number: 19 Albert Pecoraro wrote: > <<>> The Dragonfly canopy is designed for a 42 inch wide fuselage but it will fit anything from a stock KR2 fuselage up to 43 or 44 inch wide fuselages. It is very flexible. -- zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Micheal Mims SP290 (Sky Pig 290) ,..Building Cowling now mailto:mikemims@home.com http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/4136/ Aliso Viejo Ca ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Trim Systems From: Mike Mims Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 18:44:51 -0800 X-Message-Number: 20 Douglas Dorfmeier wrote: > < unit?>>> If you guys dont have either an AS&S or WICKS catalog do yourself a favor and call them up and order one. Almost everything you need to build a plane can be found in either catalog. -- zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Micheal Mims SP290 (Sky Pig 290) ,..Building Cowling now mailto:mikemims@home.com http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/4136/ Aliso Viejo Ca ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ --- END OF DIGEST --- You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: johnbou@timberline.com To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-17800J@telelists.com