From: KR-net users group digest[SMTP:kr-net@telelists.com] Sent: Monday, March 01, 1999 12:33 AM To: kr-net digest recipients Subject: kr-net digest: February 28, 1999 KR-net users group Digest for Sunday, February 28, 1999. 1. Re: joint bond failure on firewall 2. Re: Happi 1834 3. Where 4. Re: joint bond failure on firewall 5. Re: cowling question 6. GPASC 7. Brake lines 8. Re: Where 9. Re: Brake lines 10. Re: Where 11. KR2S vs Vision 12. Cowling update 13. Re: Custom Planes KR article 14. Re: Where ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: joint bond failure on firewall From: "DAVID STUART" Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 21:37:07 +1300 X-Message-Number: 1 Sorry about the delay in replying Joe but went flying in my trusty KR today. Very gusty conditions at Pine Park Airfield. Used an approach speed of 80kts to penetrate the turbulance over the pine trees on approach untill I got below the tree line.Flew with a Volksplane VP-2, Zenith and a Thorp T18.Excellent days flying! Joe I used a nice sharp chisel and gently cut in along the grain downwards then up untill the glue line appears but I had more than 3/32 holding the verticle. Can't visualise any other satisfactory method of repair unless somebody else has a suggestion.Take your time.Cheers.......Dave david.stuart@xtra.co.nz ---------- > From: CruzJ12@aol.com > To: KR-net users group > Subject: [kr-net] Re: joint bond failure on firewall > Date: Sunday, 28 February 1999 13:29 > > David, > I bought this kr2 project a month ago. Records show that it was started > in 1979 and stopped sometime in 81. He went to a kr1 project that I also > purchased. Very nice woodwork. The kr2 must have been tweeked to crack them > parts. The firewall plywood was never glued on, so that probably didn't help > any. > Can you explain how you removed the verticle 5/8 square spruce from the 3/32 > mahogany skin ? Or should i remove the skin along with the verticles? > Appreciate your help David, thanks alot......Joe > > --- > You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: DAVID.STUART@xtra.co.nz > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-17800J@telelists.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Happi 1834 From: "DAVID STUART" Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 21:58:38 +1300 X-Message-Number: 2 125 from a 1835 Hapi sounds pretty good to me and don't forget, at 3100rpm you are probably only getting somewhere between 45 and 50 hp out of your possible 60hp at 3600. I'm guessing im getting about 65 odd hp at 3100 out of a possible 75 at 3600 from my Revmaster 2100D and Mikes right about the speed. I get 145mph at 3000rpmCheers.......Dave david.stuart@xtra.co.nz ---------- > From: Mike Mims > To: KR-net users group > Subject: [kr-net] Re: Happi 1834 > Date: Sunday, 28 February 1999 07:35 > > Dan Cottle wrote: > > > Two things I'd like to do to this project are "more fuel" , it only > > carries 9 gallons in the header. And the second would be more speed. > > The owner says max is 155 mph and cruises about 125 at 3100rpm. From > > what I'm seeing on the net here,, that seems pretty sluggish? > > I think that's about right for an 1835. You may want to compare notes > with Adrian Carter (he's on the list) but 125 to 130 mph with the 60 hp > HAPI sounds pretty good. I think you would need to bump that up to a > 2180cc to see 155 cruise with higher flat out speeds. > > The 60 hp HAPI engine was and is a good powerplant. GPASC can help you > is you ever need parts. One thing that HAPI had problems with was their > aluminum flywheel. Find out if it has one and if it does check it for > cracks or just replace it. > > > -- > zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz > Micheal Mims > SP290 (Sky Pig 290) ,..Still Building the Cowling... > mailto:mikemims@home.com > http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/4136/ > Aliso Viejo Ca > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > --- > You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: DAVID.STUART@xtra.co.nz > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-17800J@telelists.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Where From: "DAVID STUART" Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 23:17:28 +1300 X-Message-Number: 3 How do I get onto KR-ONLINE and does any one know of a trycicle KR that was either in a home page or some other posting recently. It was a very pretty looking machine and would like to get the info on a trike conversion. Would appreciate any help.Cheers.......Dave david.stuart@xtra.co.nz ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: joint bond failure on firewall From: CruzJ12@aol.com Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 08:33:40 EST X-Message-Number: 4 Thanks Dave, I'll take your advise .Joe ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: cowling question From: Tom Crawford Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 10:46:47 -0800 X-Message-Number: 5 jscott.pilot@juno.com wrote: > > The "L" brackets and cowl > were then drilled to match and fitted with Cam-lock fasteners. Others > prefer to use screws and nutplates. Either works. The screws and > nutplates are a little simpler and cheaper to install. > > Jeff > Bob, The screws and nutplates are cheaper, lighter, and easier to install, but do yourself a favor and spring the extra cash for Camlocks. You will have that cowling on and off hundreds of times in the first 40 hours. It's one of those "If I had to do it again" things for me. In our quest for saving weight and money, sometimes we shoot ourselves in the foot. Tom Crawford tomc@afn.org Gainesville, FL N262TC ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: GPASC From: "Wayne DeLisle Sr." Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 15:42:34 -0500 X-Message-Number: 6 Hello KRnetters. If you haven't visited the Great Plains Aircraft web site recently, you should do so. Steve has updated it considerably. Nice job Steve. Looks great! http://www.greatplainsas.com/ WD -------------------------------------------- Wayne DeLisle Sr. Charlotte, NC mailto:dodger@coincidental.net http://angst.webserve.net/~dodger -------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Brake lines From: Robert Maniss Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 15:43:27 -0800 X-Message-Number: 7 The recent thread on using soda straws made me wonder. Is that technique just for those who may be using mechanical brakes activated by cables? For hydraulic brake lines, what would be the problem with just glassing 1/4 inch (or whatever size being used) aluminum tubing to the gear? Your help appreciated. Thanks. Bob Maniss Abilene, TX ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Where From: jscott.pilot@juno.com Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 16:14:58 -0800 X-Message-Number: 8 Davd, More than likely that was Bobby Muses KR. It's the nicest tri-gear KR I have seen. KR Online was a short lived on line newsletter, most of which are posted on Mark Langford's web page. On Sun, 28 Feb 1999 23:17:28 +1300 "DAVID STUART" writes: >How do I get onto KR-ONLINE and does any one know of a trycicle KR that was >either in a home page or some other posting recently. It was a very pretty >looking machine and would like to get the info on a trike conversion. Would >appreciate any help.Cheers.......Dave >david.stuart@xtra.co.nz > Jeff Scott - Los Alamos, NM mailto:jscott.pilot@juno.com See N1213w construction and first flight at http://www.thuntek.net/~jeb/krjeff.htm ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Brake lines From: jscott.pilot@juno.com Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 16:12:48 -0800 X-Message-Number: 9 There is nothing wrong with glassing the lines in unless you ever need to replace them. Might save on time and weight. While we are talking about brake lines, I usually post this periodically about not using the plastic brake lines all the way to the brake. Use aluminum or stainless or a high pressure braided steel line for the last 6 - 12 inches. The plastic ones have been known to overheat and burst and bleed fluid onto the hot brakes. An aquaintance of mine lost his Defiant to a fire caused by a rupture of an overheated plastic brake line. Jeff On Sun, 28 Feb 1999 15:43:27 -0800 Robert Maniss writes: >The recent thread on using soda straws made me wonder. Is that >technique just for those who may be using mechanical brakes activated by >cables? For hydraulic brake lines, what would be the problem with just >glassing 1/4 inch (or whatever size being used) aluminum tubing to the >gear? Your help appreciated. Thanks. >Bob Maniss Abilene, TX > Jeff Scott - Los Alamos, NM mailto:jscott.pilot@juno.com See N1213w construction and first flight at http://www.thuntek.net/~jeb/krjeff.htm ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Where From: Mike Mims Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 16:58:24 -0800 X-Message-Number: 10 DAVID STUART wrote: <<<>>>> Go to: http://top.monad.net/~theparkers/kr.htm and http://top.monad.net/~theparkers/tank.htm to see Tom Crawfords KR2 tri gear. If this is the one you are talking about I don't think it is a "conversion" as it was built this way from the start. :o) -- zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Micheal Mims SP290 (Sky Pig 290) ,..Still Building the Cowling... mailto:mikemims@home.com http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/4136/ Aliso Viejo Ca ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: KR2S vs Vision From: Erik Meisterman Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 17:15:45 -0800 X-Message-Number: 11 Does anybody have critical dimensions such as length and cockpit size to compare the 2 aircraft for jumbo size pilots? I notice Don Reid's website has photos of his enlarged KR2S. TIA Erik M Erik Meisterman emeister@mortimer.com 10360 Reynolds Drive Richmond BC Canada V7E 4B5 phone (604) 275-3567 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Cowling update From: Mike Mims Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 17:07:22 -0800 X-Message-Number: 12 Well netheads, I spent a better part of this morning pulling the cowling off the plug. It wasn't that easy but it did eventually come off. The cowling came out pretty darn nice. Of course it will need some filler here and there but for the most part I think you guys will like it. I will try to get some pictures up on the web sometime this week. I used a LOT of wax on top of the plug and I am sure glad I did. Once I got the thing off the plug, scraping the paint and plaster out of the inside was a piece of cake. I used four layers of 10 oz bid and I think that's just about right. Any less and it would be to flimsy (compared to a Dragonfly and RV cowling anyway). Even with the four layers of 10 oz the top half seems to be a little flexible (mostly due to the large flat area on top). I will glass a rib or two into it to help it out. The bottom half is fine, mostly due to all the curves and different shapes. -- zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Micheal Mims SP290 (Sky Pig 290) ,..Still Building the Cowling... mailto:mikemims@home.com http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/4136/ Aliso Viejo Ca ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Custom Planes KR article From: MARVIN MCCOY Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 20:00:23 -0800 X-Message-Number: 13 ------------------- The new (April) edition of Custom Planes has Mike Mims article on KR's. Also some good photos of his Sky Pig and a good plug for KR-Net. Good article Mike. I also made reservations for the 99 KR gathering. Marvin McCoy Seattle, WA. North end of Boeing field. ----------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Where From: SkyHawk11@aol.com Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 23:11:19 EST X-Message-Number: 14 BOBBY SMITH BROWNWOOD TEXAS IS JUST COMPLETING A TRIKE KR2S FAA TO EXAMINE IT FOR TEST FLIGHTS WED MAR 3 CONSTRUCTION TIME 19 MO WILL TRY TO SEND PICTURES SOON SLYHAWK11 --- END OF DIGEST --- You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: johnbou@timberline.com To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-17800J@telelists.com