From: KR-net users group digest[SMTP:kr-net@telelists.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 1999 12:18 AM To: kr-net digest recipients Subject: kr-net digest: March 01, 1999 KR-net users group Digest for Monday, March 01, 1999. 1. Help! Virus trouble on another list. 2. Re: Help! Virus trouble on another list. 3. Engine shutdown procedure 4. Trike conversion 5. Sonex list 6. Re: Engine shutdown procedure 7. Re: cowling question 8. Re: Brake lines 9. Re: Engine shutdown procedure 10. Re: KR2S vs Vision 11. Re:Trike conversion 12. Re:Trike conversion 13. Diehl main gear ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Help! Virus trouble on another list. From: "Steven Welebny" Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 06:50:31 -0500 X-Message-Number: 1 Don't worry, I'm clean. Our little woodplanes list has just received Happpy99.exe, except I'm not sure our list is quite as savvy about viruses as some were on this list. Could someone repost one (or two) of the most succinct messages regarding this thing. I have long since deleted mine. You may send it to me directly, or to KR, but I don't want to alarm people here. Sure would appreciate the help. swelebny@avonlea.mv.com Steve Welebny Avonlea Farm NH ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Help! Virus trouble on another list. From: "Wayne DeLisle Sr." Date: Mon, 01 Mar 1999 07:14:18 -0500 X-Message-Number: 2 At 06:50 AM 3/1/99 -0500, you wrote: >Don't worry, I'm clean. > >Our little woodplanes list has just received Happpy99.exe, except I'm not I sent steve a copy of the cleanup instructions. If anyone else would like a copy, just send me an empty email with the word happy99 in the subject line and I will forward you a copy. WD -------------------------------------------- Wayne DeLisle Sr. Charlotte, NC mailto:dodger@coincidental.net http://angst.webserve.net/~dodger -------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Engine shutdown procedure From: "Oscar Zuniga" Date: Mon, 01 Mar 1999 06:08:49 PST X-Message-Number: 3 Yo, Netters For those running carbs without mixture idle cutoff, what is the preferred method for shutting down the engine- close the fuel valve and let it idle till it quits, or back it down to slow idle and kill the mag/mags? Thanks Oscar Zuniga Medford, Oregon website at http://www.geocities.com/Pipeline/Dropzone/5610/ ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Trike conversion From: "Oscar Zuniga" Date: Mon, 01 Mar 1999 06:20:43 PST X-Message-Number: 4 For anybody with specific questions on converting a retract taildragger to a nosewheel setup, Paul Martin did just such a conversion on his KR-2. His will fly, hopefully, as soon as he can melt 4 ft. of snow off the mountain he lives on ;o) Paul can be reached at wolfpacks@juno.com, or see pictures of his bird at his wolfpacks website (sorry, I don't remember the URL; just search on it). But ask yourself if you really want that training wheel up there before you do it ;o) Oscar Zuniga Medford, Oregon website at http://www.geocities.com/Pipeline/Dropzone/5610/ ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Sonex list From: "Oscar Zuniga" Date: Mon, 01 Mar 1999 07:01:46 PST X-Message-Number: 5 Yo, netters Anybody interested in the Sonex, they seem to have a new builder's list. Go to http://www.onelist.com, click on 'recreation', then on 'aviation', they're alphabetical so click on 's' and you'll find the Sonex list. I see one guy posted to the list that he's serial no. 60, so I guess Monnett is busy selling plans. I found this list because my "Squirrel Net" list for the M-19 Flying Squirrel, is also hosted by Onelist. Oscar Zuniga Medford, Oregon website at http://www.geocities.com/Pipeline/Dropzone/5610/ ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Engine shutdown procedure From: Jeffrey E Scott Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 07:52:21 -0700 X-Message-Number: 6 Since my Stromberg doesn't have an idle cutoff. I always shut the mags off as recommended in the old Aeronca and Cessna manuals for the planes that had these carbs. It doesn't cause any starting or flooding problems. Jeff Scott - Los Alamos, NM mailto:jscott.pilot@juno.com See N1213W construction and first flight at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/kjeffs.html http://www.thuntek.net/~jeb/krjeff.htm On Mon, 01 Mar 1999 06:08:49 PST "Oscar Zuniga" writes: >Yo, Netters > >For those running carbs without mixture idle cutoff, what is the >preferred method for shutting down the engine- close the fuel valve >and >let it idle till it quits, or back it down to slow idle and kill the >mag/mags? > >Thanks > >Oscar Zuniga >Medford, Oregon > >website at http://www.geocities.com/Pipeline/Dropzone/5610/ > > >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > >--- >You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: jscott.pilot@juno.com >To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-17800J@telelists.com > > ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: cowling question From: Bobby Muse Date: Mon, 01 Mar 1999 11:24:05 -0600 X-Message-Number: 7 At 10:46 AM 02/28/1999 -0800, you wrote: >jscott.pilot@juno.com wrote: >> >> The "L" brackets and cowl >> were then drilled to match and fitted with Cam-lock fasteners. Others >> prefer to use screws and nutplates. Either works. The screws and >> nutplates are a little simpler and cheaper to install. >> >> Jeff >> > >Bob, > >The screws and nutplates are cheaper, lighter, and easier to install, >but do yourself a favor and spring the extra cash for Camlocks. You will >have that cowling on and off hundreds of times in the first 40 hours. >It's one of those "If I had to do it again" things for me. >In our quest for saving weight and money, sometimes we shoot ourselves >in the foot. > >Tom Crawford > Tom, In the area of those "If I had to do it again" things for me, I would still use screws/nutplates but not many. I would use hinge/pins where ever possible. The next time, I would bond a small piece of aluminum under the skin of the cowling and counterskin it. I used pheonic blocks and they are startng to wear out, allowing the screw to sink deeper and deeper. The problem I see with camlocks is that it more difficult todetermine the sizes(lenght) required and I see so many of them missing. You can always find a screw, camlocks are harder to find. Bobby Muse mailto:bmuse@mindspring.com Wimberly, TX ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Brake lines From: Bobby Muse Date: Mon, 01 Mar 1999 11:24:07 -0600 X-Message-Number: 8 At 03:43 PM 02/28/1999 -0800, you wrote: >The recent thread on using soda straws made me wonder. Is that >technique just for those who may be using mechanical brakes activated by >cables? For hydraulic brake lines, what would be the problem with just >glassing 1/4 inch (or whatever size being used) aluminum tubing to the >gear? Your help appreciated. Thanks. >Bob Maniss Abilene, TX > >--- >You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: bmuse@mindspring.com >To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-17800J@telelists.com > > The soda straws are for hydralic lines to be routed thru. Soda straws are cheper and wieght less than aluminum tubing. Bobby Muse mailto:bmuse@mindspring.com Wimberly, TX ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Engine shutdown procedure From: Bobby Muse Date: Mon, 01 Mar 1999 11:46:21 -0600 X-Message-Number: 9 At 06:08 AM 03/01/1999 PST, you wrote: >Yo, Netters > >For those running carbs without mixture idle cutoff, what is the >preferred method for shutting down the engine- close the fuel valve and >let it idle till it quits, or back it down to slow idle and kill the >mag/mags? > >Thanks > >Oscar Zuniga > Oscar, With my POSA, I close the fuel valve and let the engine run out of fuel. At that time, I listen to the engine. It should shut down in about 10 to 15 seconds. If it is shorter, it's running lean. If it is longer, it's too rich. Bobby Muse mailto:bmuse@mindspring.com Wimberly, TX ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: KR2S vs Vision From: Donald Reid Date: Mon, 01 Mar 1999 14:52:27 -0500 X-Message-Number: 10 Erik Meisterman wrote: > > Does anybody have critical dimensions such as length and > cockpit size to compare the 2 aircraft for jumbo size pilots? > I notice Don Reid's website has photos of his enlarged KR2S. Here are some of the dimensions from my project. To the basic KR2S, I added 5" in front of the main spar, 6" behind the rear spar, and it is 1" taller from the floor to the top longeron. This gives a leg room of 46 1/2" from the base of the rudder pedals to the back of the seat. A typical auto will have about 42-44". Since I built my own turtleback, I set the canopy to clear my head by about 2". From the bottom the seat to the canopy is 44". The bottom of the seat is 1 1/2" from the floor. My maximum inside width is 38 1/2". I should have made it 40-42" instead. If you are scratch building, move the point of max width to the shoulders instead of the at your knees. This is wide enough for me and my wife, but it is snug. My seat is 3/4" wider than the passenger seat. If I were doing it again, I would make a "bench" seat from 1/4" foam and glass with separate removeable seat backs. If you buy pre-fab parts, you are stuck with the stock KR dimensions. -- Don Reid Bumpass, Va. mailto:donreid@erols.com KR2XL at http://www.erols.com/donreid/kr_page.htm Ultralights at http://www.erols.com/donreid/usua250.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re:Trike conversion From: Robert Covington Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 18:03:16 -0700 (MST) X-Message-Number: 11 >But ask yourself if you really want that training wheel up there before >you do it ;o) > >Oscar Zuniga >Medford, Oregon Then ask yourself if you don't mind running into a car because of your poor over the nose visibility should you choose otherwise. :) Friend of mine with a great RV-6 got a bird strike on the local airport recently because the bird was watching some firetruck, and the airplane couldn't see the bird. A Thunderbird. Trashed the prop and crank, bent the firewall, took out the right gear, and damaged the tail. A simple training wheel would have prevented this. :) Robert Covington ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re:Trike conversion From: Mike Mims Date: Mon, 01 Mar 1999 17:53:10 -0800 X-Message-Number: 12 Robert Covington wrote: > > Trashed the prop and crank, bent the firewall, took out the right gear, and damaged the tail. A simple training wheel would have prevented this. :) > > Robert Covington > I don't know dude, I don't think you can blame this on a tailwheel, sounds more like HUA maximum insertion to me! :o) -- zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Micheal Mims SP290 (Sky Pig 290) ,..Still Building the Cowling... mailto:mikemims@home.com http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/4136/ Aliso Viejo Ca ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Diehl main gear From: Mike Mims Date: Mon, 01 Mar 1999 23:43:33 -0800 X-Message-Number: 13 Hey I was surfing the web tonight and I remembered something I talked with Larry about a few weeks ago. On the Diehl main gear the bottom two bolts that hold the axle bracket in place seem to come REALLY close to the brake drum. It looks to me that this could be easily cured by counter sinking the fiberglass leg and using a countersunk machine screw. This is what is done on the Dragonfly gear legs and it works great. Heck you could counter sink all four holes and have a much cleaner looking installation. If you guys are confused as to what I am talking about go to Dr Deans site at: http://www.execpc.com/~drdean/gear.htm and check out the picture at the top of the page. -- zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Micheal Mims SP290 (Sky Pig 290) ,..Still Building the Cowling... mailto:mikemims@home.com http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/4136/ Aliso Viejo Ca ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ --- END OF DIGEST --- You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: johnbou@timberline.com To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-17800J@telelists.com