From: KR-net users group digest[SMTP:kr-net@telelists.com] Sent: Monday, March 15, 1999 12:15 AM To: kr-net digest recipients Subject: kr-net digest: March 14, 1999 KR-net users group Digest for Sunday, March 14, 1999. 1. Re: "No electrical system. . . ."/generator suggestion 2. RE: Plywood gussets 3. Re: Completion 4. Re: gear fairings 5. Icarus 6. Re: "No electrical system. . . ." 7. Re: "No electrical system. . . ." 8. Flight Report from N54JB 9. Carb 10. RE: Carb 11. LangfordKosh VI 12. RE: Carb 13. Epoxy Syringes 14. Re: Carb 15. Re: Epoxy Syringes 16. Re: Carb 17. Re: Epoxy Syringes 18. Fwd: Fw: Fw: Fw: Virus Warning 19. Re: "No electrical system. . . ." 20. Re: Plywood gussets 21. Re: "No electrical system. . . ." 22. KR For Sale ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: "No electrical system. . . ."/generator suggestion From: "Tom Andersen" Date: Sun, 14 Mar 1999 08:09:44 -0500 X-Message-Number: 1 Mike, Maybe you can use a gas generator to run the few power tools required? I've got a 6250 watt unit that only cost $495 new and I've seen 5000 watt units for even less. This is how the Amish get along without any power from the electric companies, and they run large wood furniture shops. (They've got web sites to advertise their wares, go figure). If you connect an air compressor with a large tank you'll actually have some power stored up between runs for some air tools. -Tom For sale: KR-2S fuel tank $150 EA-81 engine $200 KR-2S wing foam $200 >As some of you may remember, I was looking for a garage in the NYC area >to build a plane. Tonite a friend on Staten Island told me that the >superintendent of his apartment house has TWO garages available for >$75/month each, which in New York City terms is virtually free -- I've >been quoted $130/month in Manhattan just for enough space to keep my >motorcycle. > >The only problem is there is no electricity in these places. Has anybody >ever built a KR without power, and is this a practical option? > >Mike Taglieri > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: RE: Plywood gussets From: "Mark Langford" Date: Sun, 14 Mar 1999 08:48:06 -0600 X-Message-Number: 2 > Since the term Plywood Gussets has come up, I read in an old newsletter or > two, that either 3/32 plywood or 5/8 spruce were acceptable - > take your pick. As far as gussets go, plywood may work as well, but one of the major purposes of spruce gussets is to increase the area of the glue joint between end grain members (verticals) to longerons. If you've ever tried to break a joint without the gussets, it's really easy. With spruce gussets you have three times more area to make that connection, subtantially more than a plywood gusset gives you. Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama mailto:langford@hiwaay.net see KR2S N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Completion From: DClarke351@aol.com Date: Sun, 14 Mar 1999 09:55:51 EST X-Message-Number: 3 Congradulations to the builder of N808BS. Well done! He should get a plaque from his local EAA. EAA 125 here in El Paso gave me one and it made me feel real good. There is no question about it. To build any airplane from scratch or kit and fly it is quite an accomplishment. Mine reads: Presented To Donald H. Clarke For Having Successfully Built And Flown A KR-2 On September 3,1998. Experimental Aircraft Association, Chapter 125. Wasn't that nice of them? Once again well done friend of Bobby Muse. Hi Bob, I will send you a E-letter soon. Don (El Paso) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: gear fairings From: "Richard Parker" Date: Sun, 14 Mar 1999 07:18:24 PST X-Message-Number: 4 I've got some pictures on my web page of KR-Kip's gear fairings Rich Parker richontheroad@hotmail.com http://top.monad.net/~theparkers/kr.htm Jaffrey, NH >From: Kerry Miller >Reply-To: "KR-net users group" >To: "KR-net users group" >Subject: [kr-net] KR progress and misc stuff >Date: Sat, 13 Mar 1999 19:25:40 -0600 > >Finally, another progress report. Today I built the fairings around the >retractable gear and did the fiberglass lay-ups on them. I'm not totally >satisfied with them yet, but I'm getting there. I know now why the fixed >gear is as fast or faster than the retracts - it's tough to fair them in >the way they are designed. Has anybody tried putting some little rubber >flaps around the gear legs or anything like that? If anybody has any pix >posted of how they made their fairings for the retracts let me know and >I'll check yours out. > >Also, I have a new e-mail address and have unsubscribed and resubscribed to >the list with the new one: >kmiller01@ticnet.com >My web site has also moved to: >http://www.ticnet.com/kmiller01 > >Last question - Does anybody have or know where I can find a manual for an >Icom IC-A21 handheld? I'd settle for borrowing one so I could copy it. I >mainly want the programming instructions and pinout for the power connector >on top. I think I found a deal on one. It has a CM-12G pack on the >bottom, it is for AA batteries? > >I guess that's enough wasted bandwidth for today. As soon as I finish my >roll of film I'll post more pictures of the bottom of the wings and the >landing gear. > >Keep 'em Flying, >Kerry Miller >Royse City, TX >Full owner of 1/2 of a KR-2 > > >--- >You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: richontheroad@hotmail.com >To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-17800J@telelists.com > > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Icarus From: "Richard Parker" Date: Sun, 14 Mar 1999 07:36:41 PST X-Message-Number: 5 I'd get both garages and sub one out. It might be a little tough at night but I didnt use a lot of power tools and (i dont have a japanese saw) There ares probably plans out on the web for foot powered lathes and band saws. I've used them in the past and they work well. you can put a sanding pad on the lathe as well. You could be the first builder since icarus to build an aircraft without ac power Rich Parker >From: Michael Taglieri >Reply-To: "KR-net users group" >To: "KR-net users group" >Subject: [kr-net] "No electrical system. . . ." >Date: Sun, 14 Mar 1999 00:49:07 EST > >As some of you may remember, I was looking for a garage in the NYC area >to build a plane. Tonite a friend on Staten Island told me that the >superintendent of his apartment house has TWO garages available for >$75/month each, which in New York City terms is virtually free -- I've >been quoted $130/month in Manhattan just for enough space to keep my >motorcycle. > >The only problem is there is no electricity in these places. Has anybody >ever built a KR without power, and is this a practical option? > >Mike Taglieri > >___________________________________________________________________ >You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. >Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html >or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] > >--- >You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: richontheroad@hotmail.com >To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-17800J@telelists.com > > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: "No electrical system. . . ." From: Horn2004@aol.com Date: Sun, 14 Mar 1999 11:32:43 EST X-Message-Number: 6 In a message dated 3/13/99 11:57:35 PM, miket_nyc@juno.com writes: <> If you have a light bulb, you've got power. You can buy a small screw-in adaptor which screws into a standard lightbulb socket. You can get them which have a single receptacle for a standard plug, and they also let you screw the bulb into them at the same time. You'll probably only be able to run a single power tool at a time, but it beats a Japanese pull saw. You might also investigate if there are any receptacles within a 100' radius of your shop. I ran my old shop off of a 100' extension cord for several years. Steve Horn horn2004@aol.com Dallas, TX ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: "No electrical system. . . ." From: "R.W. Moore" Date: Sun, 14 Mar 1999 13:32:17 -0500 X-Message-Number: 7 buy a generator rwm -----Original Message----- From: Michael Taglieri To: KR-net users group Date: Sunday, March 14, 1999 12:57 AM Subject: [kr-net] "No electrical system. . . ." >As some of you may remember, I was looking for a garage in the NYC area >to build a plane. Tonite a friend on Staten Island told me that the >superintendent of his apartment house has TWO garages available for >$75/month each, which in New York City terms is virtually free -- I've >been quoted $130/month in Manhattan just for enough space to keep my >motorcycle. > >The only problem is there is no electricity in these places. Has anybody >ever built a KR without power, and is this a practical option? > >Mike Taglieri > >___________________________________________________________________ >You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. >Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html >or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] > >--- >You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: rwmoore@alltel.net >To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-17800J@telelists.com > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Flight Report from N54JB From: "John Bouyea" Date: Sun, 14 Mar 1999 10:59:38 -0800 X-Message-Number: 8 Hello all! My buddy Joe Beyer isn't on the Internet yet, but is newly computer equipped. Here is his flight report from his KR2. Note: to reply to Joe, please call him or snail mail as listed at the end of his report. John Bouyea kr2 - on the gear kr2s - building the spars Hillsboro, Oregon FLIGHT REPORT OF KR-2 N54JB By Joe Beyer My KR-2 was built from plans and some Rand Robinson parts which I started back in 1979 and first flew in 1987. It uses a VW 1640 cc engine with a 54-34 prop which is also homemade, and a 29mm Posa carburetor with mixture control. The engine turns up to 2700 rpm max. and cruses at 100mph (2500 rpm) burning 3.5 gallons per hour. The first five flights were made at Hillsborro Ore. as a taildragger. At that time the airplane weighed in at 568 lbs. The ground handling was quick and sensetive, with no foreward visibility until the tail came up, and in flight the trim was sensetive. The landing gear was spaced out just inside of 8 feet foreward of the main spar and the gear legs were the spring bar sawed in half. They were mounted at a 45 degree angle outside of the fuselage, bolted to steel angle brackets, with 500 by 5 tires and azusa go cart brakes. On the fifth landing I managed to bounce a couple of times, hard enough to cause the left gear to collapse.The plane went over on its nose and skided through the intersection on the heat box, came to a complete stop, and fell back on the tail. The first thing I did was to turn the fuel off. I used the best blade of the old prop as a pattern to carve a new prop out of mahogany and ash. We got the plane loaded on a trailer and back to the hanger where I dismantled the undercarrage and used the old parts for a new trycycle gear of my own design. The next flight was made in 1995 from Scappoose Ore. on a 4000 ft. paved strip. I had made several high and low speed taxi runs to check the ground handling and brakes and had also gotten some time in an Aeronca Champ. I took off of runway 33 and had planed to stay in the pattern but someone in a 150 was flying left downwind at the same time I was flying right down wind, was turning base at the same time I was about to turn base. I just kept the power on and flew south and east over the Columbia River, came back in and made an uneventful landing. The trim is less sensetive due to the added weight of the nose gear (about 20 lbs.) and the roll response is normal. The pitch response is still a little sensitive but less than it was with the tail wheel due to the more foreward c.g. moment The cylinder head tempature is 450 F during full power climb and stablizes at 350 F in cruse. I'm useing a Westac duel cht/egt gauge and SW oil temp. and preasure gauges. The oil temp stays at 140 F and exaust gas temp. runs about 1100 to 1300 F. My fuel capacity is 8.9 gallons, which gives me about two hours with a margin of saftey. My rate of climb is about 700 fpm on a cool day and 500 fpm on a 85 degree plus day. I've run Castrol syntec 5-50w oil and have found the oil temp. stablizes at 200 F on a 90 degree day, but I perfer useing Valvoline or Castrol 30w Raceing oil with frequent changes. The ignition system is a Bendix S4RN-21 magneto with impulse coupeling and LA-47 spark plugs that I got from Rand Robinson years ago. I also use a foam air filter for a Cessna 150 on a homemade heat box. The engine is one I built myself and has a square back oil cooler turned around with a nasa scoop in the upper cowell. I take the tac. drive off the end of the cam shaft with a right angle adaptor. The case is an AE dual relief type and the internal after market parts include tefflon wrist pin buttons and a windage tray. I'm useing a HAPI prop hub and oil seal and the crank shaft thrust bearing is relocated to the number three position. I machined the crank gear to act as the thrust bearing surface, with an end play shim, and also the cam shaft to fit the crank gear. The rocker shafts are modified to eliminate the clips and wavey washers and replaced with spacers and end bolts. The engine mount is a plans built job with few modifications that I welded up with oxy accetelene. I added two inches to the motor mount and four inches to the empennage between the rear spar and the horizontal tail, the only modifications other than the undercarrage. Last year I added rear windows that I decided to do after some formation flying with a Cygnet and a Flybaby. It really helps to be able to see back and down espically in the pattern. This is an excellent plane for a first time builder due to its ease of construction and low cost. No major changes should be made to the airframe because it usually ends up in increased weight. They are so much more fun with a nosewheel than a tail wheel since the landing roll is never in doubt and the foreward view is improved. N54JB is the only flyable KR-2 in the Portland area to date although there are a few more around here in various stages of completion. For those just starting their projects the major goal should be to keep them as light as possible. Here are some numbers: Span: 21ft. 9 inches Cruise: 100 mph at 2500 rpm Length: 15 ft. 6 inches Aproach: 90 mph Empty Weight: 588 lbs. Engine: VW 1640cc Stall: I'm not that brave yet but when it get's slow it just sinks with full roll response. About 55. Hours to date: 32. For more info, just get in touch! Joe Beyer 1527 SE Schiller Street Portland, OR 97202 (503) 235-4073 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Carb From: RFG842@aol.com Date: Sun, 14 Mar 1999 15:17:22 EST X-Message-Number: 9 Have just mounted (tempory) my Type 4 bus engine, 2400 CC, 9 to 1 compression with a Force 1 hub and Diehl back plate with starter and Slick mag. Was built from scratch with all new parts. Have to choose a carb. Anyone have any suggestions?? Also this model engine was originally a fuel injected engine with no provisions for a mechanical pump. Could use two electrics but what happens if I loose the electrical system?? Probably the same thing as if I lost the one mag. Am thinking about the Ellison mounted on top of the engine to cut down on the length of the intake tubes but wonder if a Zenith at about 25% of the cost and mounted underneath the engine may be a better choice. Will have to make the intake manifold as Great Plains does not make one for the Type 4. Mark, what are you useing?? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: RE: Carb From: "Mark Langford" Date: Sun, 14 Mar 1999 16:01:00 -0600 X-Message-Number: 10 > Mark, what are you useing?? I was planning to use CIS fuel injection from an early rabbit, but the weight is fairly high, and the injectors stick out an awful lot from the intake manifolds, requiring a fairly wide cowling. Benefits would be automatic mixture compensation, no carb heat required, and no primer required. I may just slap a two barrel sidedraft Weber 40DCOE on it and take the easy way out at first, and make the injection work over the following winter. The Weber has a mixture enrichment device on the side that feeds extra fuel into the system, rather than using a butterfly choke. I'm pretty good with Webers, since all of my VWs have them, and I feel confident that I can make it work easily. I can't help but think that my 2.6 liter Type 4 running at 3800 rpm is going to need more fuel than something like a Posa can deliver. The new Ellison is pretty tempting too, and is what I'd use if I didn't already have a Weber in the basement calling me. Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama mailto:langford@hiwaay.net see KR2S N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: LangfordKosh VI From: "Mark Langford" Date: Sun, 14 Mar 1999 16:39:44 -0600 X-Message-Number: 11 Chris Gardiner is coming down to visit next Sunday morning, the 21st at about 10:00. There were some folks in South Alabama that were asking to come up at the end of last year, but I forgot who you are. If you still want to come, this would be a good time. My plane is still upside down and not much to look at, but we can talk KRs at least. Let me know... Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama mailto:langford@hiwaay.net see KR2S N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: RE: Carb From: "Robert H. Welfel" Date: Sun, 14 Mar 1999 16:00:06 -0800 X-Message-Number: 12 Hi I have a video on a posa carb and this tells me that a posa carb with a large venturi and a #4 needle will run a 0-320 lycoming (150 HP) with no problem. If your engine isn't any more HP then that it will work. Bob welfel Mark Langford wrote: > > Mark, what are you useing?? > > I was planning to use CIS fuel injection from an early rabbit, but the > weight is fairly high, and the injectors stick out an awful lot from the > intake manifolds, requiring a fairly wide cowling. Benefits would be > automatic mixture compensation, no carb heat required, and no primer > required. I may just slap a two barrel sidedraft Weber 40DCOE on it and > take the easy way out at first, and make the injection work over the > following winter. The Weber has a mixture enrichment device on the side > that feeds extra fuel into the system, rather than using a butterfly choke. > I'm pretty good with Webers, since all of my VWs have them, and I feel > confident that I can make it work easily. I can't help but think that my > 2.6 liter Type 4 running at 3800 rpm is going to need more fuel than > something like a Posa can deliver. The new Ellison is pretty tempting too, > and is what I'd use if I didn't already have a Weber in the basement calling > me. > > Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama > mailto:langford@hiwaay.net > see KR2S N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford > > --- > You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: welfel@open.org > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-17800J@telelists.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Epoxy Syringes From: "Dean Collette" Date: Sun, 14 Mar 1999 20:04:08 -0600 X-Message-Number: 13 Yeah, I know this is another advertisement, but that's how it goes. For all you guys that have emailed me in the past regarding how you get big syringes for mixing epoxy - Please go to http://www.execpc.com/~drdean/syringe.htm or http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/tet/ We'd be more then happy to help you out. Dean mailto:drdean@execpc.com Web Site at http://www.execpc.com/~drdean/home.htm ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Carb From: Great Plains Aircraft Date: Sun, 14 Mar 1999 20:15:13 +0000 X-Message-Number: 14 Great Plains does make the t4 intake head manifolds and the U if using an updraft or side draft carb mounted below the enigne. They can also supply the intake flanges if making your own intake system . Steve at gpasc. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Epoxy Syringes From: SkyHawk11@aol.com Date: Sun, 14 Mar 1999 21:27:42 EST X-Message-Number: 15 I HOPE THIS DOESNT MESS UP SOME ONES SIDELINE BUSINESS, THOSE LARGE SYRINGES ARE AVIALIABLE AT YOUR LOCAL AG MART OR ANY PLACES THAT CARRYS HORSE AND CATTLE SUPPLIES ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Carb From: MARVIN MCCOY Date: Sun, 14 Mar 1999 20:31:03 -0800 X-Message-Number: 16 RFG842@aol.com wrote: > > Have just mounted (tempory) my Type 4 bus engine, 2400 CC, > suggestions?? > > Also this model engine was originally a fuel injected engine with no > provisions for a mechanical pump. Could use two electrics but what happens if > I loose the electrical system?? ----------------- It may be to late for you now that you have the motor all together, But I took my Type IV to a machinist familiar with VWs and he drilled out the pad and installed a bushing and now I have a mechanical fuel pump. I did this while the motor was apart. Something for you to think about when you rebuild or have the motor torn apart. Marvin McCoy Seattle, WA. North end of Boeing field ----------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Epoxy Syringes From: "Dean Collette" Date: Sun, 14 Mar 1999 22:37:33 -0600 X-Message-Number: 17 >I HOPE THIS DOESNT MESS UP SOME ONES SIDELINE BUSINESS, THOSE LARGE SYRINGES >ARE AVIALIABLE AT YOUR LOCAL AG MART OR ANY PLACES THAT CARRYS HORSE AND >CATTLE SUPPLIES > Why yes they are. I checked prices very closely before getting into this. For the 60 cc syringe: Elder Care Supply $16.80 each Walgreens (must be special ordered) $13.22 each Wal-Mart Pharmacy (must be special ordered) $12.68 each Farm & Fleet (local vet supply) $18.99 for 3 (wrong tip style) VSI (Vet Supply, Inc.) $17.50 for 3 generic (fly-mart at Oshkosh) $4.50 each / 3 for $12.00 (wrong tip style) and the list goes on and on. You don't think I wouldn't have done my research now, would ya? Dean Trailing Edge Technologies, LLC mailto:drdean@execpc.com Web Site at http://www.execpc.com/~drdean/home.htm ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Fwd: Fw: Fw: Fw: Virus Warning From: Laheze@aol.com Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 00:05:04 EST X-Message-Number: 18 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --part0_921474305_boundary Content-ID: <0_921474305@inet_out.mail.aol.com.1> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII I just returned home from vacation and found this email and thought you guys might want to know. Larry Howell --part0_921474305_boundary Content-ID: <0_921474305@inet_out.mail.koyote.com.2> Content-type: message/rfc822 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline Return-Path: Received: from rly-zc01.mx.aol.com (rly-zc01.mail.aol.com [172.31.33.1]) by air-zc03.mail.aol.com (v56.26) with SMTP; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 17:18:42 -0500 Received: from ns1.koyote.com (ns1.koyote.com [207.48.50.2]) by rly-zc01.mx.aol.com (8.8.8/8.8.5/AOL-4.0.0) with ESMTP id RAA22425; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 17:18:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from ns1.koyote.com (208-152-106-94.koyote.net [208.152.106.94]) by ns1.koyote.com (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA485577; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 16:22:34 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199903112222.QAA485577@ns1.koyote.com> Reply-To: From: "brown" To: "John Poole" , "Brian Phillips" , "Debbie Hoffman" , "Mariah Henderson" , "Gina Carter" , "Saundra Rolf" , "Pam Webb" , "Matt Cantrell" , "Curtis Brown" , "Chrissy Brown" , "Don Yost" , "Jon Schroeder" , "Lynn Waters" , "Larry Perryman" , "Larry Howell" , "Jennifer Shepherd" , "James Shepherd" , "Charlie Brown" Subject: Fw: Fw: Fw: Virus Warning Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 16:19:06 -0600 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable ---------- > From: LWilmimi@aol.com > To: GBlks@flash.net; jlbowers@webtv.net; brown@koyote.com; Zlinbo@aol.com; dbobb@gte.net; maranatha@argontech.net; jeandrapeau@juno.com; ffarms@unicomp.net; Ouraybabe@aol.com; PhelpsFurnishings@worldnet.att.net; rmps@airmail.net; BABYBRIM@aol.com; Powlogging@aol.com; Mttopmins@aol.com; Boshirah@aol.com; EKIM@aol.com; patskauge@argontech.com; mytiger1@gte.net; JVan30@aol.com; mlvowell@juno.com; Bryan414@aol.com; lynn@koyote.com; odell@globeco.net > Subject: Fwd: Fw: Fw: Virus Warning > Date: Thursday, March 11, 1999 3:44 PM > > In a message dated 3/11/99 3:23:53 PM Central Standard Time, Eagle1446 writes: > > << > > >>>>>-----Original Message----- > >>>>>From: Murphy, Steve > >>>>>Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 1999 8:13 AM > >>>>>To: All TXI Employees > >>>>>Subject: FW: Virus Warning > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>> Subject: Virus Warning > >>>>>> > >>>>>> VIRUS WARNING !!!!!!! > >>>>>> > >>>>>> If you receive an email titled "It Takes Guts to Say 'Jesus'" DO= > >>NOT > >>>>>> open it. 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Gish" To: "Ted Weems" , "Ron Martin" , "Lometa Williams" , "Jeannie Marshall" , "George Beal" , "Bob Nauman" = , "Bart Green" Subject: Fw: Fw: Virus Warning Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 09:02:53 -0800 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=3DISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable -----Original Message----- From: jimmy stewart To: dgish@koyote.com Date: Wednesday, March 10, 1999 6:58 AM Subject: Fw: Fw: Virus Warning > >-----Original Message----- >From: Ernie Martinek >To: Julie_Lenz@mail.pillowtex.com >Date: Wednesday, March 10, 1999 7:43 AM >Subject: Fwd: Fw: Virus Warning > > >> >> >> >>>From: "Rick Hejny" >>>To: emarti99@hotmail.com >>>Subject: Fwd: Fw: Virus Warning >>>Date: Tue, 09 Mar 1999 22:36:37 PST >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>From: "nita needham" >>>>To: "Bob Hall" ,"Reva K. Harris" >>>, "Ed West" ,"Carol Merrick" >>>, "Rick Hejny" ,"Jane Caltrider"= =3D >>>,"Doug B Beauchamp" >>>>Subject: Fw: Virus Warning >>>>Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 21:11:13 -0600 >>>> >>>> >>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>From: Needham, Joani >>>>To: 'BRAD MILLER' ; 'DAVID MONDAY' >>>; >>>>'NITA NEEDHAM' ; 'TONYA COBURN' ; >>>'TRINA >>>>FREEMAN' >>>>Date: Tuesday, March 09, 1999 7:31 AM >>>>Subject: FW: Virus Warning >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>>From: Murphy, Steve >>>>>Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 1999 8:13 AM >>>>>To: All TXI Employees >>>>>Subject: FW: Virus Warning >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Subject: Virus Warning >>>>>> >>>>>> VIRUS WARNING !!!!!!! >>>>>> >>>>>> If you receive an email titled "It Takes Guts to Say 'Jesus'" DO >>NOT >>>>>> open it. It will erase everything on your hard drive. Forward >>this >>>>>> letter out to as many people as you can. This is a new, very >>>>>> malicious virus and not many people know about it. This information >>>>>> was announced yesterday morning from IBM; please share it with >>>everyone >>>>>> that might access the internet. Once again, pass this along to >>>EVERYONE >>>>in >>>>>> your address book so that this may be stopped. Also, do not open or= =3D >>>even >>>>>> look at any mail that says >>>>>> >>>>>> "RETURNED OR UNABLE TO DELIVER." >>>>>> >>>>>> This virus will attach itself to your computer components and >>render >>>>>> them useless. Immediately delete any mail items that say this. >>AOL >>>has >>>>>> said that this is a very dangerous virus and that there is NO >>remedy >>>for >>>>>> it at >>>>>> this time. >>>>>> >>>>>> Please practice cautionary measures and forward this to all your >>>>>> online friends ASAP. >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>>______________________________________________________ >>>Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com >> >>Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com >> >> --part1_921188679_boundary-- --part0_921474305_boundary-- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: "No electrical system. . . ." From: Michael Taglieri Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 00:31:17 EST X-Message-Number: 19 >If you have a light bulb, you've got power. You can buy a small >screw-in >adaptor which screws into a standard lightbulb socket. Actually, I'm pretty sure that when they say "no electricity" they mean lights, also.... Mike Taglieri ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Plywood gussets From: Michael Taglieri Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 00:31:17 EST X-Message-Number: 20 There was a long thread on this a year or so ago, which may be in the archives (?). I would expect the plywood gussets to be a bit stronger, if uglier, and using both would be overkill (and overweight). Mike Taglieri _____________________________________________ "Fundamentally the marksman aims at himself." - from Zen And the Art of Archery >Since the term Plywood Gussets has come up, I read in an old >newsletter or >two, that either 3/32 plywood or 5/8 spruce were acceptable - take >your pick. >Haven't heard it mentioned since. It seems the Plywood method would >be a >whole lot simpler. Let's hear it from anyone who knows from using >either or >both. I may start a "boat" soon. > >TL > >--- >You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: miket_nyc@juno.com >To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-17800J@telelists.com > ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: "No electrical system. . . ." From: Laheze@aol.com Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 00:38:33 EST X-Message-Number: 21 Michael, If there is no power, I would assume you will need a lot of flashlight batteries or a coleman lantern. If there is lights then you should have power ! Larry Howell ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: KR For Sale From: BSHADR@aol.com Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 02:20:06 EST X-Message-Number: 22 KRNetheads: Anybody looking for a finished and flying KR2? Rob sent this to me for posting to KRNet. He has flown this plane plenty of places on the Left Coast. He used it for some business travel and to visit a honey (or two) not close to his home. He flew a lot with the dog, computer and suitcase. If interseted, Email (and not KRNet) or call him direct. I have not seen his plane in over a year. None of his recent honey trips have been to SMO... ;-) Randy Stein Soviet Monica, CA ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ <> --- END OF DIGEST --- You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: johnbou@timberline.com To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-17800J@telelists.com