From: KR-net users group digest[SMTP:kr-net@telelists.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 1999 12:13 AM To: kr-net digest recipients Subject: kr-net digest: June 29, 1999 KR-net users group Digest for Tuesday, June 29, 1999. 1. Dog ear 2. the poop on strobes 3. Re: the poop on strobes 4. Re: Stupid question of the day. 5. Re: Sport Aviation magazine and the KR 6. Re: West System (fwd) 7. Re: Q Parabeam three dimentional glass fabric 8. Re: FAA Personal Minimums Checklist Program 9. Re: 3d modeling 10. Re: Arlington Air Show 11. Removing Staples 12. How to unsubscribe 13. Re: Non vertical stern post 14. Re: T-88 or E-Z Poxy to glue Aluminum to wood 15. Re: Arlington Air Show 16. Parts for Sale 17. Test 18. 150 hp Ea-81 19. Re: T-88 or E-Z Poxy to glue Aluminum to wood 20. Re: Revmaster... 21. Re: Revmaster... 22. Re: Terra's going away... 23. Re: Revmaster... 24. Re: Terra's going away... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Dog ear From: "John Martindale" Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 1:6:30 X-Message-Number: 1 Thanks Mark and Haris I'll try to unwind the twist using the stabilator braces first and if that fails its cut and stick the taper. It will depend on just where the twist originated, ie., fore or aft of the brace. Mark, I'm undecided about installing lights so I just glassed in a nylon tube in the wing and left a bit of fishing line in it. If I go with lights I'll just pull the wires through later. Yes, I know, its just deferring the decision!! Are you putting in landing lights, if so, where? Can't beat T88, even though it costs a fortune over here in Australia. Cheers John. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: the poop on strobes From: "Mark Langford" Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 06:45:28 -0500 X-Message-Number: 2 I got the poop on strobes (or at least his slant on it) from the guy at Kuntzleman. He said the FAA requires 400 effective candles (how bright it LOOKS to the eye, which has a lot to do with color, duration, and type of lense installed) and that 10 joules would get you there easily. His systems put out 14 joules. He also said (and several others echoed it) that the FAA has absolutely no way to measure light output, so that practically anything that looks like a strobe will get you past inspection. Having said that, I operate on Jeff Scott's principle that I'd like to be seen as far away as possible. For $228 his "streamlined" dual doubleflash strobes look like the best bang for the buck. The Kuntzleman power supply will also trigger two Whelen or Aeroflash heads, so there's a way to get nav lights and strobes too, using an inexpensive power box. He says they're not PMA'd because it's WAAY too much hassle and too expensive to do, and he's doing it for ultralights and experimentals anyway, who don't need them. Kuntzleman's dual strobes are located at http://www.kestrobes.com/page1/double12.htm Thanks for all the replies to my strobe problem. I too have a conduit thru my stub wing for the wires, but would rather not cut a shielded line to remove the connector (it won't fit thru my .5" ID conduit). Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama mailto:langford@hiwaay.net see KR2S N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: the poop on strobes From: HAshraf@aol.com Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 10:26:09 EDT X-Message-Number: 3 In a message dated 99-06-29 07:45:56 EDT, you write: << but would rather not cut a shielded line to remove the connector >> Use a Molex connector. They can be removed easilly. Infact, I helped Allan remove them when he was replacing his strobes on his D'Fly. Although I do not think they are 'aircraft grade' , as they are not gold plated or airtight, but I have seen them on some certificated airplanes. Use a good quality heatshrink over them tube for a professional finish. If you use high temp shielded wires, you will not have to worry about desoldering operation damaging the leads. Haris ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Stupid question of the day. From: Ross Youngblood Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 09:00:35 -0700 X-Message-Number: 4 John, I had the same experience with staples. I even tried wire under the darn things. On my spars, I had no problem with my foward spar, but the aft spar was mounted 1/2" off, so eventually I had to cut it out, repair the webbing with a scarfed patch, and re-install it correctly. This after I had already placed the 5/8" spruce blocks on the outside.... -- Ross John Weikel wrote: > > Man I hate those darned staples but used them anyway. There is no easy way > to pull the suckers either. I used a 1/4 wood chisel and a pair of > plyers.... lift and pull, lift and pull.. never ending. I have just > completed a RW-6 RagWing Parasol UL (wood & fabric) and used 4000 staples on > that little sucker. My hands still hurt and the blisters have almost > healed. Take care when you put the spars in place. Level and measure til > both sides are identical then mark everything and put the glue on..... don't > even allow the cat near it til the glue has set. > John W > -----Original Message----- > From: FLYKR2S@aol.com > To: KR-net users group > Date: Thursday, June 24, 1999 1:14 PM > Subject: [kr-net] Stupid question of the day. > > >Hi Tobin, > >Yes you need to glue the skins to the fuselage frame prior to installing > the > >center spars. Trim the plywood flush with the vertical members and you > should > >have no trouble inserting the spars. As far as the glue joint, if you don't > >have a tight fit, use shims glued on both sides. Also, you should glue 5/8 > x > >5/8 spruce strips in the joint corners on the outside of the fuselage. This > >makes a firm joint between the fuselage and spar. Then when you install the > >load transfer blocks on the top of the spars and between the vertical > >members, you will have a secure spar to fuselage joint. If you wish, you > can > >take this a step further by installing 5/8 x 5/8 spruce strips between > spars > >and fuselage floor lengthwise across interior of fuselage. > > > >As to using the staples on the fuselage skins, this is your discretion. I > >used many one gallon jugs filled with water as weight to press my skins to > >the fuselage frames as the glue cured. This gave me very good results. > >However, this was done on a flat table prior to assembling the fuselage > sides > >together. > > > >Remember, no question is a dumb question. > > > >Mark Jones (N886MJ) > >Waukesha, WI > >flykr2s@aol.com > > > >--- > >You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: jandd@maverickbbs.com > >To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-17800J@telelists.com > > > > --- > You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: rossy@teleport.com > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-17800J@telelists.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Sport Aviation magazine and the KR From: Ross Youngblood Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 09:01:56 -0700 X-Message-Number: 5 Don, This is terrific! I will check out the link. -- Ross Donald Reid wrote: > > Over the past several months, I have enjoyed searching through my copies > of Sport Aviation and loading them onto my web page. I especially > appreciate the number of private messages that I have received thanking > me for the effort and the information. It was my pleasure. > -- > Don Reid > Bumpass, Va. mailto:donreid@erols.com > KR2XL at http://www.erols.com/donreid/kr_page.htm > Ultralights at http://www.erols.com/donreid/usua250.html > > --- > You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: rossy@teleport.com > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-17800J@telelists.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: West System (fwd) From: Steven Eberhart Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 11:08:04 -0500 (CDT) X-Message-Number: 6 Ran across this on the Aircraft Builders mail list. Steve Eberhart ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 11:36:04 -0400 From: John DeYager Reply-To: Aircraft Builders Mailing List To: Aircraft Builders Mailing List Subject: Re: West System Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 08:15:00 -0500 From: John DeYager Subject: Re: West System Hey Dan, I've never built an all wood airplane, using metal now. But, when I was building competition hydroplanes, they were all wood. I've used West System and System Three (out of Washington) and never had a glued joint fail. At a 145mph across the water with a small block Chevy on its back, I had to pay close attention to all the joints and stress points. For wood protection I would thin out a mixture of epoxy with acetone or lacquer thinner to a consistency of a thin paint and just brush it on. (NEVER spray epoxy glue.) It was important to make sure it was thin so it would soak into the wood. Too thick, and it will adhere too close to the surface and flake off when flexed. I've seen boats after 15 years and the wood looks good as new. You may wish to consult with an EAA technical advisor for the best method. This may end up being an over-kill for aircraft use. Good Luck. John. Dan Hall wrote: > Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 20:45:11 -0700 (PDT) > From: Dan Hall > Subject: Introduction > > Greetings All: > Name here's Dan. I am building a Skybolt, though heaven knows you could > hardly tell by looking at the workshop. Got side tracked here of late > with Amateur Radio stuff. Tubes 'n electronical stuff everywhere. > > I have all my ribs built and the spar blanks are in the rack waiting to > be planed and cut to shape. Very worrisom business that, there's $500 > worth of spruce itching to be spoiled there....think that's why I have > been sidetracked. All the ribs were put together with T-88 though I > think I am going to change to the West System because of problems I see > comeing trying to assemble the wing and still get adequate moisture > protection EVERYWHERE. > > Does anyone on the list have experience with West System resins?? > > Thanks > Dan Hall > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > ***************************************************************************** > Builders Bookstore - for the builder, technician and pilot. > http://www.buildersbooks.com/1.htm ***************************************************************************** Please visit our Aircraft Builders Mailing List sponsor: Submit Wolf, automatic site submission software: http://www.trellian.com/cgi-bin/msw/entry?id=6382 ***************************************************************************** ABMList homepage: http://www.keskydee.com/aviation/list.html Help: Send message to list with "HELP" in the SUBJECT LINE. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Q Parabeam three dimentional glass fabric From: Ross Youngblood Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 09:12:57 -0700 X-Message-Number: 7 Sounds like marketing hype. The whole earth catalog back in the 80's had a material with fiberglass rods embedded in it for boatbuilding. A nifty material. I bought a sample and played with it. It is too heavy for airplane use, but makes nice covering for a boat hull. I don't know if it is the same as your 3D glass fabric, but it may be similar. -- Ross > Rick Hubka wrote: > > Q: What is Parabeam three dimentional glass fabric. > > Any one heard of or use this fiberglass? Supposedly it'd new! > > > Rick Hubka > Email: rick@hubka.com > Web Site: www.hubka.com > Calgary, Alberta, Canada ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: FAA Personal Minimums Checklist Program From: Ross Youngblood Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 09:10:54 -0700 X-Message-Number: 8 Rick, I can dup CD's here at home. I have time to make one or two copies then turn the CD around back to you. Otherwise, I am sure to loose it. I had my first experience flying in limited visibility last week on a VFR X-C flight from MFR to CVO. Medford Oregon to Corvallis Oregon, about 128NM. About 1/2 way north, a front was moving in (I had checked weather). I could see to either side but visability ahead was poor. Knowing that Flight following had no idea what I was seeing, I asked to leave the frequency to check weather. Both the EUG ATIS, and CVO AWOS indicated celing 8000 and 10 mile visability, but there was some small terrain ahead, and it was mostly forest. I went back to Flight following and told them I was leaving the airway to use the freeway. The visibility held to about 10 miles in rain till I got within 20NM of my home base, then I knew I would have no trouble. Although the visibility was 10 miles, it looked better sideways instead of ahead. I was fortunate to have practiced touch and goes in rainy weather so this didn't spook me, loosing sight of the ground or flying into a cloud was my main concern. I can now understand how this can happen to folks, it's hard to gauge. -- Regards Ross EagleGator@aol.com wrote: > > I just got a copy of the "Making Your Own Rules: Creating a Personnal > Minimums Checklist" CD from the FAA. It's a program that takes you through a > training session that results in generating a checklist of your personal > minimums for currency, weather, aircraft parameters, and a few other things. > You input your experience parameters, and it outputs suggested limits that > you can modify if you want. > > I've got a copy of the FAA form this program is based on on my web site, if > you want to take a look at it. It's at http://members.aol.com/eaglegator. > > I'd like to send this disk to someone who has a read/write CD ROM to be > duplicated if anyone is interested in getting a copy. Any takers? > > Cheers, > Rick Junkin > EagleGator@aol.com > St. Charles MO > KR-2S N415RJ 37% complete and progressing... more or less > > --- > You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: rossy@teleport.com > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-17800J@telelists.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: 3d modeling From: Ross Youngblood Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 09:15:33 -0700 X-Message-Number: 9 Toby, You can email stuff like this to either of the two email addresses, and there is a slight chance I will get time to post it on the website. mailto:krnet@krnet.org -- Admin email account (checked monthly?) mailto:rossy@teleport.com -- Admin personal email Tobin Dunham wrote: > > Hey guys, > > I just wanted to pass along an idea. Although I am the primary builder > (pronounced "fifty-one percent"), my brother will be helping me with my > KR-2. He happens to be a whiz on AutoCad, and he is constructing a 3d model > of the plane on the computer. I want to look at the model first and make > changes on the computer before screwing up a real plane. :) > > Anyway, I have a bitmap image that shows the progress so far on the 3d > model. I tried to send it to the kr-net but there's a limit of 40kb per > message. If you would like to view it, email me privately at > tobin_patrick@hotmail.com and I can send the image to you. It's just under > 300kb zipped and almost 800kb unzipped. It's preliminary and incomplete, > and he's been working on it for only a couple of days now in his spare time. > Look at it and let me know what you think so far. I'm thinking that this > could be a really valuable tool for building KRs, especially for design > changes. I want to know if this something that you guys think would be > worth paying for. Do you think Rand Robinson would consider paying to have > a 3d model available?? > > Toby Dunham > Houston, TX > > _______________________________________________________________ > Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com > > --- > You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: rossy@teleport.com > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-17800J@telelists.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Arlington Air Show From: Al Hawkins Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 09:17:12 -0700 X-Message-Number: 10 I will try to be there, I hope the weather improves as it seems it has been raining all of june. Alastair Hawkins Port Coquitlam, B.C. Canada ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Removing Staples From: Ross Youngblood Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 09:20:23 -0700 X-Message-Number: 11 After I tried wire, and still had problems removing staples, I came to the conclusion that those who had no problem removing staples, might not be using the same length or amount of pressure I was. I know that my webbing is not going anywhere based on the work with screwdrivers, and vise grips to remove staples. -- Ross > Don't foreget, Mooney used the tape idea. They were rebuilding their > wings a few years later. A fellow by the name of E. W. (Speed) > Gardenhire (A & P license # 59) worked for me for a couple of years and > one of his friends working for Mooney told him of the story. So from > that point they proceed with the tack strips. > > He's/they are all correct. You'll spend more time removing the staples > than putting them in. But It's the best way. > > Happy building and/or flying > > Greg Martin > Bakersfield, CA > > > >--- > >You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: idrawtobuild@juno.com > >To unsubscribe send a blank email to > >leave-kr-net-17800J@telelists.com > > > > --- > You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: rossy@teleport.com > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-17800J@telelists.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: How to unsubscribe From: Ross Youngblood Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 09:30:05 -0700 X-Message-Number: 12 Look at the bottom of this email for a message like the following: > --- > You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: rossy@teleport.com > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-17800J@telelists.com (The integer 17523 in leave-kr-net-17523 is unique to me, and will not work for you. Don't worry Lyris won't let you unsubscribe the admin by mistake.) -- Regards Ross ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Non vertical stern post From: Ross Youngblood Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 09:35:44 -0700 X-Message-Number: 13 John, I too believe I had a similar twist problem. I never measured it, thinking it was a slight optical illusion. Regarding the rudder hinge gap seal, I filled the joint with foam, and glassed the inside of the area. This took some work, as the first pass caused an interference problem. Another experiement would be to play with the diagonal cross members (this is easy to suggest as it's not my airplane). Remove a couple of them, and build a turnbuckle arrangment to tighten the bays until you get the stern post aligned, then fabricate new length diagnoal cross members. This would be for the top of the "boat" stage. In my case the EAA Tech counselor suggested adding some cross members in this area, as my KR-2 plans did not call for them and I have a removable aft deck. From what I have seen of the 2S, there is more diagonal bracing in the aft fuselage area than the -2. -- Ross John Martindale wrote: > > Boys, > I gotta small problem. I had my stern post vertical when it was glued to > the upside down fuselage flush on the table. After turning the fuse over > and adding the belly skin, the post is now very slightly out of plumb, ie., > the fuse has somehow developed a very slight "spiral twist" from front to > back. Its only about 1/16" (approx 1/2 of a degree)of twist when measured > around stern post glue joint but, over the 40 " length of post results in > the top being about 1/4" out of plumb. If I remove and reglue the post > vertical (done twice now)I can't get a parallel line between the side skins > (wind seal) and the rudder. If I warp the post, the rudder hinges won't > align. Does anyone know how to brace the the fuse to remove this slight > twist. It not a lot and would probably fly OK as is but it is just > discernable to the eye like a dog with one floppy ear. Could the forward > fin spar be stressed somehow to straighten it out? Am I making sense here? > See Ya John. > > --- > You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: rossy@teleport.com > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-17800J@telelists.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: T-88 or E-Z Poxy to glue Aluminum to wood From: Ross Youngblood Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 09:37:35 -0700 X-Message-Number: 14 This Floxing of the aluminum mounts is news to me. I have made FLOX from both Aeropoxy, and Hexcel Structural Adhesive (Similar to T-88). The T88, will be thicker, but will work. I found using the structural adhesive easier to use for small batches as it is a 50/50 mix. -- Regards Ross HAshraf@aol.com wrote: > > Hi, > > I need to flox 1/4 " Aluminum engine mounts to the fuselage. I almost did it > today by using EZ-Poxy but then thought that maybe T-88 is better for that > puropse. > > Which one should I use? > > Thanks > > Haris Ashraf > > --- > You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: rossy@teleport.com > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-17800J@telelists.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Arlington Air Show From: Ross Youngblood Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 09:44:54 -0700 X-Message-Number: 15 Mel, I'd like to, but I'm in the middle of changing jobs this month. I'm supposed to be in Boise ID the 8th and 9th, but I could sneek up for the 10th & 11th. I need some X-C time, but don't know if I can rent an airplane on short notice. I might talk my daughter into driving up with me so I will post again if I can make it. -- Regards Ross Mel Poradun wrote: > > Is anyone going to the Arlington Air Show???? > July 7-11 > > Mel Poradun > mporadun@wa.freei.net > Ferndale, Washington > > --- > You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: rossy@teleport.com > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-17800J@telelists.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Parts for Sale From: "Dean Collette" Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 12:10:41 -0500 X-Message-Number: 16 Back in October I had offered a few parts for sale that I had gotten form a project that I acquired as a 'donor." Most of the parts were sold at that time, but one guy who agreed to buy several of the parts, asked me to hold on to them for awhile while he arranged shipping. Then he asked me to hold on to them because his wife was having a baby, and then . . . Well, here we are almost 9 months later and I still have these parts. Since he won't return emails or phone calls, and I don't want these things in my basement, they are back up for sale. Here's what I have; - Premolded KR-2 Turtledeck - Engine Cowling. For Great Plains or other standard VW - Engine Mount. For Great Plains or Revmaster - Stainless firewall dimensioned to the standard KR-2 template - RR Control Stick assembly - 1 Set of Aileron Bellcranks. Built to specs. (see drawing 58, pg 63 of the manual) I didn't build them, but they look good. Please respond offline if you are interested. I can send pictures if you want. Best offer takes. For the bigger stuff that would normally need to go by truck, I will hold that until OSH if you are heading that way. O.K., maybe I could be convinced to bring something to the gathering - we'll talk. Dean Collette Milwaukee, Wisconsin mailto:drdean@execpc.com Web Page at http://www.execpc.com/~drdean/home.htm ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Test From: "Blandford, Carlton C" Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 12:48:27 +0200 X-Message-Number: 17 Hi Chaps, Just testing, not getting any mail. Carlton Blandford Standard Bank - Integrated Network Services Tel No: 027 11 636-8372 Fax No: 027 11 636-3074 *CBlandford@Mail.SBIC.co.za ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: 150 hp Ea-81 From: Richard Parker Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 13:07:13 PDT X-Message-Number: 18 Tom A. I just found out that my engine guy up here in NH makes parts for your imflyin guy in AZ. Rich P _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: T-88 or E-Z Poxy to glue Aluminum to wood From: Michael Taglieri Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 17:02:13 -0400 X-Message-Number: 19 >This Floxing of the aluminum mounts is news to me. I have made >FLOX from both Aeropoxy, and Hexcel Structural Adhesive (Similar >to T-88). The T88, will be thicker, but will work. I found using >the structural adhesive easier to use for small batches as it is If I remember correctly, the aluminum mounts were first suggested in an old Newsletter (perhaps by Lance Niebuhr??) following a firewall failure after a hard landing. That article recommended both bolting and epoxying. Eventually the idea made it into the plans but mentioned only bolting. This either means (A) Rand-Robinson did careful stress analysis and determined that epoxying was not needed, or (B) another slapdash error in the plans. Mike Taglieri ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Revmaster... From: marmet Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 18:56:06 -0400 X-Message-Number: 20 Thanks for the info. I tried the phone no. that I have (619) 244-3074, and cannot reach with this one. Maybe they have changed no.. If you have another one, I would appreciate. Thanks JC Quebec, Canada Austin and Connie Clark wrote: > Let me know if you need their > phone number. I would post it, but I don't have it handy right now. > > Austin Clark > KR2S 49% and holding > Pascagoula MS > www.datasync.com/~itac/ > www.clarklumber.com > > --- > You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: marmet2@videotron.ca > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-17800J@telelists.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Revmaster... From: DClarke351@aol.com Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 22:17:16 EDT X-Message-Number: 21 Their number is 760-244-3074 (Revmaster) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Terra's going away... From: jscott.pilot@juno.com Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 21:56:39 -0700 X-Message-Number: 22 On Mon, 28 Jun 1999 08:02:47 -0500 "Mark Langford" writes: >KRNetHeads, > >I've been thinking about avionics lately, and remembered hearing a vicious >rumor that Trimble (after buying Terra last year) has decided to focus on >commercial stuff and discontinue GA products. I've wondered if that meant >the tiny (half-size) lightweight radios and transponders were going to be >discontinued (surely not, I told myself). I called Gulf Coast Avionics this >morning and was told they have exactly three transponders left, if anybody >else is planning to use them. I ordered the com/transponder/encoder package >for $2395. These are too cool not to have one, even if I'm not flying for a >year or so. They said they'd extend the warranty to two years for me. >Besides, now I can listen to "aviation radio" while working in the basement. >That ought to be inspirational. > Actually, Trimble is trying to sell the Terra line. The guy that created Terra and built the business in Albuquerque before selling the line to Trimble is one of those that has expressed an interest in buying Terra. Anyone out there that wants to be in the aircraft avionics business. Here's your chance to own a good line that is popular with the homebuilt crowd. Unfortunately, the Terra line was supposed to be installed in a couple of new production planes including Mooney and Cirrus, and they both cancelled their orders once Trimble announced that they weren't very interested. Jeff Scott - Los Alamos, NM mailto:jscott.pilot@juno.com See N1213w construction and first flight at http://www.thuntek.net/~jeb/krjeff.htm ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Revmaster... From: David Moore Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 21:15:03 +0000 X-Message-Number: 23 Yea they have been changing area codes in Calif. again. Revmaster's number is 760-244-3074 Dave Moore At 06:56 PM 6/29/99 -0400, you wrote: >Thanks for the info. I tried the phone no. that I have (619) 244-3074, and >cannot reach with this one. >Maybe they have changed no.. >If you have another one, I would appreciate. Thanks >JC >Quebec, Canada > >Austin and Connie Clark wrote: > >> Let me know if you need their >> phone number. I would post it, but I don't have it handy right now. >> >> Austin Clark >> KR2S 49% and holding >> Pascagoula MS >> www.datasync.com/~itac/ >> www.clarklumber.com >> >> --- David G. Moore mailto:dgmoore1@gte.net Henderson, Nevada ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Terra's going away... From: David Moore Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 21:33:39 +0000 X-Message-Number: 24 When I was at F&S, the guy at Gulf Coast Avionics said they were buying up all the Terra avionics they could from Trimble. If anyone is interested, there small in size and are just right for a homebuilt panel that is small in space. I also read Mooney was quite upset because of Trimble pulling out of the GA market. Mooney had plans for Terra avionics in all their new aircraft. Dave Moore >Actually, Trimble is trying to sell the Terra line. The guy that created >Terra and built the business in Albuquerque before selling the line to >Trimble is one of those that has expressed an interest in buying Terra. >Anyone out there that wants to be in the aircraft avionics business. >Here's your chance to own a good line that is popular with the homebuilt >crowd. > >Unfortunately, the Terra line was supposed to be installed in a couple of >new production planes including Mooney and Cirrus, and they both >cancelled their orders once Trimble announced that they weren't very >interested. > >Jeff Scott - Los Alamos, NM >mailto:jscott.pilot@juno.com >See N1213w construction and first flight at >http://www.thuntek.net/~jeb/krjeff.htm > David G. Moore mailto:dgmoore1@gte.net Henderson, Nevada --- END OF DIGEST --- You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: johnbou@timberline.com To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-17800J@telelists.com