From: KR-net users group digest[SMTP:kr-net@telelists.com] Sent: Thursday, July 15, 1999 12:32 AM To: kr-net digest recipients Subject: kr-net digest: July 14, 1999 KR-net users group Digest for Wednesday, July 14, 1999. 1. Re: [kr-net]Hot wire....foam...epoxy 2. Re: Fuel tank 3. Re: Stupid question of the day 4. Dynel 5. Re: Carry Insurance 6. Re: Dynel 7. Re: Fuel tank 8. Re: Dynel 9. Re: Weights 10. Heads-Up Display and Automatic Header Tank and Wing Tank Controller. 11. Air Speed Heads-up Display and Fuel Tank Controller 12. Re: Stupid question of the day 13. Oshkosh 14. Re: Oshkosh 15. Re: Oshkosh 16. Re: Fuel tank 17. Fibreglas on fuselage skins 18. Re: Fibreglas on fuselage skins 19. Pannel PlannerCD 20. Re: Fuel tank 21. Re: Stupid question of the day 22. Re: Pannel PlannerCD 23. Re: KR: Heads-up Display and Fuel Management Board 24. Re: Weights 25. Tillotson float bowl carb. 26. Kr-1 27. counteracting left-yaw 28. Couneracting yaw 29. Re: Fuel tank 30. Re: counteracting left-yaw ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: [kr-net]Hot wire....foam...epoxy From: "Richard Parker" Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 02:38:45 PDT X-Message-Number: 1 I've never seen any documentation from West Systems indicating there products can be used for fuel tanks. Have you seen anything from them? Rich Parker NH >From: Tim > I'll be using West System 105, for my fuel tanks. Been used in the >boat industry for differnt fuels over many years and has a good track >record. _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Fuel tank From: Donald Reid Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 09:18:31 -0400 X-Message-Number: 2 g hamilton wrote: > Has anybody fabricated their own fiberglass gear legs? Any recommendations for this? > I made my own gear. It is similar in design to the Dan Diehl version. The legs are uni-directional glass, layed up in a mold. The mounts are fabricated from 0.125" thick 4130 steel. There are few pictures on my web site. E'mail me directly and we can talk. BTW, unless you are doing something special like the size or weight, get the Diehl legs, it is a whole lot easier. -- Don Reid Bumpass, Va. mailto:donreid@erols.com KR2XL at http://www.erols.com/donreid/kr_page.htm Ultralights at http://www.erols.com/donreid/usua250.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Stupid question of the day From: GARYKR2@cs.com Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 09:56:30 EDT X-Message-Number: 3 After spending time as an aircraft maintance instructor, corp. pilot, and a quality control inspector for aircraft overhauls, and being an A&P, I learned there are no stupid questions. If you doen't know something, that's what we are here for. Just Ask, Gary ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Dynel From: "Henning Mortensen" Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 07:15:50 PDT X-Message-Number: 4 Last year I bought a partial kr2. One thing I noticed is that the wings have the glass not laid on bias. This concerns me and I am thinking I should rebuild the wings. I have two sets of plans, one new, one 1977 vintage. This plane was built under the 77 plans and I was reading those last night. There is no mention of laying stuff on bias and there is even a picture of Ken and Stu laying cloth on straight. But of course they were using Dynel. What I am wondering is, was the weave of Dynel such that there was no need to lay it on bias? Any one with historical perspective? Also, just an idea. I have this fuse, and these wings and I don't know if they are heavy or light. We should start getting a database of component weights so that a builder can compare parts rather then the final weight of the entire airplane. I would rather rebuild a wing then have a heavy airplane. I would be willing to compile such a list if there is interest and people were willing to weigh projects as they are being built. Henning Mortensen Regina Sk. Canada ps. I notice there are getting to be a lot of us western canadians here. Any interest in a regional get together at some point? We could plan on meeting in Calgary or such ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Carry Insurance From: "w.g. kirkland" Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 10:19:22 -0400 X-Message-Number: 5 W.G. KIRKLAND kirkland@vianet.on.ca ---------- > From: KR2616TJ@aol.com > To: KR-net users group > Subject: [kr-net] Carry Insurance > Date: Sunday, July 11, 1999 11:37 AM > > I've been "like Mike" and been on vacation for the last 10 days or so. I got > an e-mail while in the Virgin Islands that there had been a "little" mishap > with the 172. The following is a discription of what I found on this > mornings trip to the airport. This is a forward of an e-mail I sent earlier > with the jpg attachments, sorry Dean, Doug and Mark, I didn't know if I would > get the web page set up this quickly. > > Well, these are the pictures from this morning when I went out to the > airport. The accident happened at about 4AM last Monday morning during a > party at a trailer just off the airport property, which is rented from the > airport FBO by two pilots. The one driving is a CFII who is/was looking for > a commercial job. He was arrested for DUI. The FBO said that they were > having a party when two guys and a girl (the owner of the Cavalier > convertible) decided to go for a drive down the airport road. On the way > back, the CFII lost control just at the top of the hill, skidded 65 before > leaving the roadway, skidded 65.42 feet through the grass, went airborne 40.5 > feet across an adjoining road, landed sideways, skidded an additional 62.17 > feet through more grass and the chain link fence, when airborne again for > 57.5 feet and landed just in front of the hangar door. The car went through > the hangar door, hit the prop on the pilot side, over the landing gear, > through a 6X6 treated post behind the wing, and came to rest at the rear wall > of the hangar. It very nearing came out of the rear of the hangar. Both of > the guys were unhurt. The girl was ejected and thrown under the plane and > was nearly scalped. She underwent surgery and was released. They are lucky > that the prop, wing strut or the door brace didn't decapitate them all. > > The airplane is going to be a total loss for the insurance. Starting at the > front.......the spinner was hit along with the prop. The prop is bent and > split. The case would have to cracked open to inspect the crank. The engine > mount was bent and pushed through the firewall on the pilot bottom side. The > firewall is a total loss. The instrument panel is crooked. The seats were > out of the airplane for it's annual and were run over by the car. Headliner > has wrinkles in it indicating a twist in the fuselage in the cabin area. The > floor on the pilots side has waves in it. The airplane was pushed up against > the 6X6 posts on the T part of the hangar on both sides. Both flaps were > destroyed along with both ailerons and all linkages. The rear spar on both > wings was destroyed with waves in the skin all the way to the front spar. > The vertical stab was pushed through the top of the hangar bending both the > VS and the rudder. The elevator attachment rivots were sheared so you can > push one side of the elevator up, and the other side down. > > He also took out my roller tool box, some chairs, shelving, radio, speakers > and misc. junk. > > I'm sure the driver will not get that "cherry" pilot job that he has been > looking for. > > In the market for another spam can. > > Pictures at http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/7085/kr00007.htm > > They are full size pictures so it will take a minute to download but ol 7460T > is going to be history. > > Dana Overall > 1999 KR Gathering host > Richmond, KY > mailto:kr2616tj@aol.com > http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/7085/ > > --- > You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: kirkland@vianet.on.ca > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-17800J@telelists.com > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Dynel From: HAshraf@aol.com Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 11:09:37 EDT X-Message-Number: 6 In a message dated 99-07-14 10:16:54 EDT, you write: << I have this fuse, and these wings and I don't know if they are heavy or light >> The drawing A of KR-2 plans specify the weight of the boat. If ours do not have that number, I'll look it up for you. People have posted boat weights but some people include spars and tail in the boat. Haris ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Fuel tank From: Tlongcrier@aol.com Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 13:31:33 EDT X-Message-Number: 7 Sometime ago there was some discussion on using Grumman two seater gear legs to make main gear legs for the KR. Thiis was dividing one Grumman leg down the center and making two legs for the KR. Has any one done this? How did it work out? What type spar and wheel (axle) atachments did you come up with? TLongcrier@aol.com Florence, AL ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Dynel From: "Rick Hubka" Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 10:54:37 X-Message-Number: 8 Hi Henning Some weights are listed in Area 51 at http://a51.wetworks.org/Weights.html So you've finally gotten started with that old bird. Great! A Western Canuck get together in Calgary? Sure! Count me in and I'll even volunteer to host it at my house and garage(heated with bar fridge). Another new Alberta KRNetter (Eugene Lukin) from Cochrane Alberta (20 min west of Calgary) has his KR plans and will be starting this fall, Eugene's coming over to see my unfinished boat this weekend. That's when I'll ask him be my test pilot some day. He's retired airforce with 6000 hours in fighters. Are you listening Eugene? Hey... I just ordered my DF canopy through Dean!! Ya Hoo!!! Take care... Rick Hubka rick@hubka.com Calgary, Alberta, Canada ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Weights From: "Henning Mortensen" Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 11:00:03 PDT X-Message-Number: 9 ><< I have this fuse, and these wings and I don't know if > they are heavy or light >> >The drawing A of KR-2 plans specify the weight of the boat. If ours do not >have that number, I'll look it up for you. People have posted boat weights >but some people include spars and tail in the boat. > >Haris I was thinking that we get a bunch of weights in all kinds of different combinations. That way at what ever stage a person is at they can look up and see what other's planes weighed at that point. With a little math we should be able to figure out what each piece should weigh. Henning ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Heads-Up Display and Automatic Header Tank and Wing Tank Controller. From: "Ron / Dana" Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 13:39:35 -0700 X-Message-Number: 10 To see information go to http://www.kitplanes.com/ for details on this and other products for home builders. Click on the small jegs for engagement to read. KRRon ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Air Speed Heads-up Display and Fuel Tank Controller From: "Ron / Dana" Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 14:20:49 -0700 X-Message-Number: 11 To see information go to http://www.kitplanes.com/ click on Classifieds then on Aviation Products for details on this and other products for home builders. the contact info is wrong use www.jrl-engineering.com Click on the small jegs for engagement to read. KRRon ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Stupid question of the day From: GARYKR2@cs.com Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 15:42:07 EDT X-Message-Number: 12 From a design standpoint the KR would have to be redesigned. The plywood is acting the same as the skin on any aluminum airplane. A quick look at the old pre'30's aircraft will show you what is required as far as extra support. The use of plywood for skin gives the best cost, weight, strength, and ease of constrution you can get. The only drawbacks are protection from mother nature, harder to repair, and next to imposible to do compound curves. There is a lot more, but my typing is not the fastest. I will do my best to answer any other questions. Gary ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Oshkosh From: Aubrey Dunham Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 13:02:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Message-Number: 13 Hi everybody, I'm planning to go to Oshkosh at the end of the month, and was wondering if any of y'all were planning to come. I'd like to see some KR's and talk to some people about the process. Another question: Are any of the workshops worth the time? I was thinking of attending a composite class and a woodworking class. Any suggestions or comments? -Aubrey Dunham San Antonio, TX _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Oshkosh From: "Ron / Dana" Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 15:25:38 -0700 X-Message-Number: 14 I am going and hope to see KR builders their. KRRon >Hi everybody, >I'm planning to go to Oshkosh at the end of the month, and was >wondering if any of y'all were planning to come. I'd like to see some >KR's and talk to some people about the process. >Another question: Are any of the workshops worth the time? I was >thinking of attending a composite class and a woodworking class. Any >suggestions or comments? >-Aubrey Dunham >San Antonio, TX > >_________________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > >--- >You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: jrlkc@mindspring.com >To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-17800J@telelists.com > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Oshkosh From: ejanssen@chipsnet.com (Ed Janssen) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 15:40:07 -0500 X-Message-Number: 15 Aubrey, By all means take in everything you can in the way of applicable workshops. They're great! Steve Bennett, GPASC, will probably have his booth in one of the display buildings. In the past there has been a KR dinner and in more recent years a KR/Sonerai get-together at John Monnett's (Sonex designer) hanger on the field. To the other guys - Have we heard from Steve whether a similar bash is being held this year? Haven't seen or heard much from Steve on the KRNet since around Sun N Fun (or not so fun) time. Of course there has always been a KR Forum in one of the tents as well. You'll probably see some KRs on the flight line. However, if it's KRs in particular that you want to learn more about, I would suggest you might rather make plans to go to the KR Gathering in Kentucky. Ed Janssen -----Original Message----- From: Aubrey Dunham To: KR-net users group Date: Wednesday, July 14, 1999 3:25 PM Subject: [kr-net] Oshkosh >Hi everybody, >I'm planning to go to Oshkosh at the end of the month, and was >wondering if any of y'all were planning to come. I'd like to see some >KR's and talk to some people about the process. >Another question: Are any of the workshops worth the time? I was >thinking of attending a composite class and a woodworking class. Any >suggestions or comments? >-Aubrey Dunham ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Fuel tank From: WGLIDE78@aol.com Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 16:59:40 EDT X-Message-Number: 16 Personally I wouldn't fly in an aircraft with a glass tank in my lap--there has been to many fracture on impact if I remember right there was a nice guy I met out of Arizona Chris Beechner??? that bellied in straight ahead on an engine failure on take off years ago. He survived landing but not the bath of fuel when it cooked off.The technology for safer tanks are out there. No reason not to use an aluminum tank w explosafe in it with not much of a weight penalty ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Fibreglas on fuselage skins From: RFG842@aol.com Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 17:48:05 EDT X-Message-Number: 17 One thing that no one has mentioned is cloth weight. Fibreglasing the fuselage skins is mainly for appearance although you do gain some strength. I used 1 1/2 oz cloth from Wicks on my skins. Also used it in some areas as a final covering on the KR cloth to reduce filling. Just a guess but believe it will weigh less than the resin nexessary to smooth the glas. Also, did Dr Dean list a source for the Aero lite?? Tnks, Bob ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Fibreglas on fuselage skins From: "Dean Collette" Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 17:26:22 -0500 X-Message-Number: 18 Aero lite?? I take it you mean Aeropoxy Light - the filler. You can get this from Wicks or AS&S. Dean Collette Milwaukee, Wisconsin mailto:drdean@execpc.com Web Page at http://www.execpc.com/~drdean/home.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: To: KR-net users group Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 1999 4:48 PM Subject: [kr-net] Fibreglas on fuselage skins > One thing that no one has mentioned is cloth weight. Fibreglasing the > fuselage skins is mainly for appearance although you do gain some strength. > > I used 1 1/2 oz cloth from Wicks on my skins. Also used it in some areas as > a final covering on the KR cloth to reduce filling. Just a guess but believe > it will weigh less than the resin nexessary to smooth the glas. > > Also, did Dr Dean list a source for the Aero lite?? > > Tnks, Bob > > --- > You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: drdean@execpc.com > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-17800J@telelists.com > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Pannel PlannerCD From: Kip Anderson Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 18:30:00 -0400 X-Message-Number: 19 I will be sending out the Panel Planner CD and including a list of the people who requested it, in the order of the requests received, so it can be forward to them. The list is: Tim Stone, Wayne DeLisle, Larry Shull, Mike Cochran and Donald Clarke. Kip ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Fuel tank From: GARYKR2@cs.com Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 19:03:22 EDT X-Message-Number: 20 I made my header and wing tanks from polyurethane foam, polyester resin (type "B". This is a laminating type.) and 6 oz. glass cloth. Have had no problems. Auto fuel with alcohol in it will attack the resin. Conducted some tests trying differant brands, and found Super AMOCO to be the best. Check in the Aircraft Spruce Catalog . Thats where I get most of my supplies. Gary Hinkle Middletown, Pa. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Stupid question of the day From: GARYKR2@cs.com Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 19:12:33 EDT X-Message-Number: 21 Use 1oz cloth ( used on R/C models ) , just enough resin to wet out, and you will have a finish that will out last you. I'll be back later ,going flying for a bit. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Pannel PlannerCD From: EveninBrz@aol.com Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 20:18:38 EDT X-Message-Number: 22 In a message dated 7/14/99 3:29:53 PM Pacific Daylight Time, kipapilot@gnc.net writes: << I will be sending out the Panel Planner CD and including a list of the people who requested it, in the order of the requests received, so it can be forward to them. The list is: Tim Stone, Wayne DeLisle, Larry Shull, Mike Cochran and Donald Clarke. Kip >> Thanks, Larry Shull ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: KR: Heads-up Display and Fuel Management Board From: "Ronald R. 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From: WA7YXF@aol.com Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 21:42:39 EDT X-Message-Number: 25 Adrian Carter VE6AFY ------- recently at a car swap had a chance to look at the zenith ford model "A" carburetor. Laying beside it was a Tillotson model XF I sure liked it much better. In the KR newsletter February 1990 you mentioned using a tillotson float bowl carburetor on your engine. I was wondering if it might be the same and how it has worked out for you? Lynn Hyder WA7YXF ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Kr-1 From: SClay10106@aol.com Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 22:20:48 EDT X-Message-Number: 26 I have been looking over the plans to the kr-1 and i am having a hard time understanding how the rear deck and canopy are constructed. Are they styrofoam cut into the shape and covered in fiberglass? Or is there wood frames under all this ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: counteracting left-yaw From: "Tobin Dunham" Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 20:21:05 PDT X-Message-Number: 27 Ok, fellas. Here's a good one for you to chew on... Most production model planes are designed to counteract the left-yaw at the design cruise speed. This is usually accomplished by building the left wing with a slightly larger angle of attack (angle of incidence), and by slightly turning the tail. I don't see anything in the plans about this. So I'm assuming Ken Rand didn't take this into account, and just used trim. Has anyone actually done this? If so, do you have any idea of how to do it? What should the difference in incidence angle be? How much should the vertical fin be "twisted"? Am I the only one who has questioned this? Toby Dunham Houston, TX _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Couneracting yaw From: "Tobin Dunham" Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 20:22:51 PDT X-Message-Number: 28 Ok, when I hit the 'send' button, I realized that it may not always be left yaw. I guess it depends on what engine you're using. But the question still stands. I've used up my share of bandwidth for the day.... Toby Dunham Houston, TX _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Fuel tank From: Ron Freiberger Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 22:12:44 -0500 X-Message-Number: 29 Clearly, this is not a Fuel tank issue. Anyway, it seems clear to me. -----Original Message----- From: bounce-kr-net-19348@telelists.com [mailto:bounce-kr-net-19348@telelists.com]On Behalf Of Tlongcrier@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 1999 12:32 PM To: KR-net users group Subject: [kr-net] Re: Fuel tank Sometime ago there was some discussion on using Grumman two seater gear legs to make main gear legs for the KR. Thiis was dividing one Grumman leg down the center and making two legs for the KR. Has any one done this? How did it work out? What type spar and wheel (axle) atachments did you come up with? TLongcrier@aol.com Florence, AL --- You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: ronald.freiberger@cwix.com To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-17800J@telelists.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: counteracting left-yaw From: cartera Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 22:35:40 -0600 X-Message-Number: 30 Tobin Dunham wrote: > > Ok, fellas. Here's a good one for you to chew on... > > Most production model planes are designed to counteract the left-yaw at the > design cruise speed. This is usually accomplished by building the left wing > with a slightly larger angle of attack (angle of incidence), and by slightly > turning the tail. > > I don't see anything in the plans about this. So I'm assuming Ken Rand > didn't take this into account, and just used trim. Has anyone actually done > this? If so, do you have any idea of how to do it? What should the > difference in incidence angle be? How much should the vertical fin be > "twisted"? Am I the only one who has questioned this? > > Toby Dunham > Houston, TX > > _______________________________________________________________ > Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com > > --- > You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: cartera@cuug.ab.ca > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-17800J@telelists.com Hi Gang, Sure I did, but remember it's not left yaw, because if your using a VW it's the opposite prop rotation. Just offset my motor mount, lot easier then doing anything structural and you can adjust this with a few washers and fine tune it with a rudder tab. Good Luck and Happy Flying! -- Adrian VE6AFY Mailto:cartera@cuug.ab.ca http://www.cuug.ab.ca/~cartera --- END OF DIGEST --- You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: johnbou@timberline.com To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-17800J@telelists.com