From: KR-net users group digest[SMTP:kr-net@telelists.com] Sent: Saturday, July 17, 1999 12:23 AM To: kr-net digest recipients Subject: kr-net digest: July 16, 1999 KR-net users group Digest for Friday, July 16, 1999. 1. Re: Any Aviation Weather Services on the web?? 2. Re: Any Aviation Weather Services on the web?? 3. Re: new co-pilot 4. Re: Filling/ Priming 5. Fwd: Re: Any Aviation Weather Services on the web?? 6. Re: counteracting left-yaw 7. Re: new co-pilot 8. Re: Weights 9. Re: Any Aviation Weather Services on the web?? 10. Re: Bug in system,/ ret. gear 11. Re: Any Aviation Weather Services on the web?? 12. Dumb carb question 13. Re: new co-pilot 14. Filling/priming 15. RE: new co-pilot 16. RE: Fuel tank 17. RE: Dynel 18. Question - Non KR related 19. Re: Any Aviation Weather Services on the web?? 20. Re: new co-pilot 21. Re: Any Aviation Weather Services on the web?? 22. Re: Any Aviation Weather Services on the web?? 23. Re: Cockpit Fires 24. Re: KR: Heads-up Display and Fuel Management Board 25. Re: Fuel tank 26. Re: Any Aviation Weather Services on the web?? 27. carburators 28. Re: new co-pilot 29. Weight and Balance, C.G. Display Gauge 30. Re: Bug in system,/ ret. gear 31. Emergency Proceedures (in light of how not to get out) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Any Aviation Weather Services on the web?? From: Tim Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 01:33:20 -0600 X-Message-Number: 1 Tom, keep the faith and it's never too early to start a homebuilt project. I bought an Ultralight in the early 80's and did the self thing because of my location. Then bought an ercoupe, until one day after about 75hrs, the CFI at the new location said 'Timmy Boy' your joy riding is over! So I was dam near forced to be legal. Did my PPL in a spam 150 and PA-28 Warrior and that was 15yrs ago. Time flies 'Dude' don't waste a minute. God I love flying, you know I told him that, one day when I was up ;-) Tim Cool Pool aka Cold Lake ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Any Aviation Weather Services on the web?? From: R5t0ut1@aol.com Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 09:33:35 EDT X-Message-Number: 2 In a message dated 7/16/99 7:18:47 AM !!!First Boot!!!, tomkr2s@t-three.com writes: << Anyone know if METARS, TAF's, FA's or any other aviation services are available on the internet? >> Tom Go to http://www.duats.com/ and register as a new user. You'll need your medical certificate available as this is also your student pilots license. Then you'll need to go to http://www.duats.com/cirrus.html to download the program needed to get the weather. I think it's a neat program. You can check weather, NOTAMS, see graphic weather maps, plan cross country trips and use the information to file your flight plans. Randy Stout - KR2S Las Vegas NV ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: new co-pilot From: "w.g. kirkland" Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 11:38:37 -0400 X-Message-Number: 3 Congratulations Tom! What were you doing last Oct.? W.G. KIRKLAND kirkland@vianet.on.ca ---------- > From: cartera > To: KR-net users group > Subject: [kr-net] Re: new co-pilot > Date: Thursday, July 15, 1999 6:18 PM > > tom wrote: > > > > All, > > > > We have a new co-pilot in our family! Alana Lee Crawford was born at > > 1300 ET today- 7-15-99. 7 lbs., 18.5" long. Coincidently born on my > > son's second birthday. > > Man, I need a nap! > > > > Tom Crawford > > toys@atlantic.net > > Gainesville, FL > > N262TC > > > > --- > > You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: cartera@cuug.ab.ca > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-17800J@telelists.com > > Congratulations DAD! > -- > Adrian VE6AFY > Mailto:cartera@cuug.ab.ca > http://www.cuug.ab.ca/~cartera > > --- > You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: kirkland@vianet.on.ca > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-17800J@telelists.com > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Filling/ Priming From: KR2616TJ@aol.com Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 07:55:09 EDT X-Message-Number: 4 In a message dated 7/15/99 10:06:27 PM Eastern Daylight Time, klw1953@juno.com writes: << I'm working on my left wing using UV Smooth Prime. I rolled on the required 6 coats and sanded the top of the wing. My question is: after all that work I still have lots of weave depressions that didn't fill properly, so I guess now it's back to the primer. I was thinking that on my right wing maybe I should have squeeged the first coat coat on to fill in the weave first. What do you guys think? Thanks, Kenny >> I guess the question here is did you use peel ply or a deck cloth to get a good final surface? Smooth Prime is used primarily as a primer that has properties to fill pin holes. You are going to have to put a lot of material on to fill weave. I believe Mike Mims experimented with adding a little micro to a batch of Smooth Prime to fill in some weave areas with success. Just remember this stuff is water based and you apply it in thin coats so the layers are extremely thin. In all of the applications I've done, including the forum, I've never squeeged it on. I talked with Jon at Poly Fiber two days ago. He is sending material for the forum at the gathering along with materials for door prizes. When I get it, I'll try and thicken some up and see what happens. Dana Overall 1999 KR Gathering host Richmond, KY mailto:kr2616tj@aol.com http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/7085/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Fwd: Re: Any Aviation Weather Services on the web?? From: FLYKR2S@aol.com Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 15:29:09 EDT X-Message-Number: 5 --part1_12a3aca.24c0e205_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --part1_12a3aca.24c0e205_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-path: FLYKR2S@aol.com From: FLYKR2S@aol.com Full-name: FLY KR2S Message-ID: <12a3aca.24c06fb8@aol.com> Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 07:21:28 EDT Subject: Re: [kr-net] Any Aviation Weather Services on the web?? To: kr-net@telelists.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 In a message dated 7/16/99 2:19:19 AM Central Daylight Time, tomkr2s@t-three.com writes: << Anyone know if METARS, TAF's, FA's or any other aviation services are available on the internet? >> Try www.duats.com Mark Jones (N886MJ) Waukesha, WI flykr2s@aol.com http://sites.netscape.net/flykr2s/homepage --part1_12a3aca.24c0e205_boundary-- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: counteracting left-yaw From: R5t0ut1@aol.com Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 09:35:37 EDT X-Message-Number: 6 In a message dated 7/15/99 10:40:01 PM !!!First Boot!!!, richontheroad@hotmail.com writes: << If you never spun with your instructors I'd recommend it. The first one scares the snot out of you but after that they get addictive. >> That didn't look like snot comming out of my drawers! Randy Stout - KR2S Las Vegas NV ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: new co-pilot From: tom Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 09:38:46 -0400 X-Message-Number: 7 FLYKR2S@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 7/15/99 4:59:58 PM Central Daylight Time, > toys@atlantic.net writes: > > << We have a new co-pilot in our family! Alana Lee Crawford was born at > 1300 ET today- 7-15-99. 7 lbs., 18.5" long >> > > Congratulations Tom!!! Be glad your plane is finished, I have not put in > more than five hours on mine since our second son was born April 13. The time > just flies by now and there aren't enough hours in the day. > > Will we see you at Oshkosh again this year? > > Mark Jones (N886MJ) > Waukesha, WI > flykr2s@aol.com > http://sites.netscape.net/flykr2s/homepage > > I think Bob Muse Sr. said it best. At Sun and Fun last year, I was talking to him and asked if he had ever flown his plane to OSH. He said yes, once. Then he said, "When you fly to OSH, you have never seen so many strangers. When you fly to S&F, you have never seen so many friends." Tom Crawford toys@atlantic.net Gainesville, FL N262TC ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Weights From: KR2616TJ@aol.com Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 07:42:10 EDT X-Message-Number: 8 In a message dated 7/15/99 3:25:06 PM Eastern Daylight Time, henning_kr2@hotmail.com writes: << Great, how about if everyone just weigh stuff, give a full description of what the weight is of, and post it. I will build a database/spreadsheet and every once in a while send it to krnet >> Mike Mims has a weight web page already out there somewhere, that would probably be the best place to post something. Dana Overall 1999 KR Gathering host Richmond, KY mailto:kr2616tj@aol.com http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/7085/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Any Aviation Weather Services on the web?? From: "Richard Parker" Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 02:57:51 PDT X-Message-Number: 9 You can check by going to my link listed below and downloading GTE duats. I think you need a private license number to get Duats, I cant remember, When you connect to duats you can have it translated into english and cross referrence the metar's I'd recommend the King Metar video. Rich Parker http://top.monad.net/~theparkers/mpa.htm >Anyone know if METARS, TAF's, FA's or any other aviation services are >available on the internet? I'm studying for my Private ticket and access >to >real data would be helpful to me. >-Tom Andersen >Orlando FL >KR-2S, spar installations. > > >--- >You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: richontheroad@hotmail.com >To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-17800J@telelists.com > _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Bug in system,/ ret. gear From: "Mark Langford" Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 06:39:52 -0500 X-Message-Number: 10 > Hi everyone, I just want to let all of you know that I received a bug, or > some kind of contamination from this KR-net. It was not a virous, but > something. Welcome to the world of Microsoft, where things disappear or become corrupt overnight. It happens all the time, so don't take it personally, or blame it on KRNet... Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama mailto:langford@hiwaay.net see KR2S N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Any Aviation Weather Services on the web?? From: Aubrey Dunham Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 07:57:32 -0400 (EDT) X-Message-Number: 11 Tom, There are several places to get this info. Try http://www.duat.com or http://www.duats.com. Those are the two government-sponsored duat systems. You have to have a password, and there are instructions to get one on those websites. Also, if you're a member of AOPA, you can get weather briefing from the members-only portion of their website (http://www.aopa.org). Have fun...... -Aubrey Dunham San Antonio, TX --- Tom Andersen wrote: > Anyone know if METARS, TAF's, FA's or any other > aviation services are > available on the internet? I'm studying for my > Private ticket and access to > real data would be helpful to me. I just found that > my flight school traded > in 10 C-152's for 10 Katana's. The Katana has got > to be the closest > production trainer airplane to a KR-2, and looks > like it was borne from > experimental roots. I'm very excited about > finishing out my ticket with > them (20hrs more), then having them available for > rent afterwards. I've > done three solo flights in cans, but can't stand > them. Yokes are for > blokes. My KR dream flight is a long way off, with > many hurdles in between, > but I'll get there someday. (It's better than never > getting there.) > -Tom Andersen > Orlando FL > KR-2S, spar installations. > > > --- > You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: > aldunham@yahoo.com > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > leave-kr-net-17800J@telelists.com > > _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Dumb carb question From: "Oscar Zuniga" Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 07:12:09 PDT X-Message-Number: 12 Hello, Netters Here is a carb question which might be simple... I just haven't seen a simple answer. Is there an easy way to determine what carb CFM rating to be looking for based on engine size, RPM, or-? I guess you could get the engine displacement and RPM and calculate theoretical CFM, but this doesn't seem to work based on carb recommendations I've seen. Oscar Zuniga Medford, Oregon website at http://www.geocities.com/Pipeline/Dropzone/5610/ _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: new co-pilot From: "Bruce S. Campbell" Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 08:56:52 -0400 X-Message-Number: 13 Congratulations Pop! Bruce S. Campbell Tampa tom wrote: > All, > > We have a new co-pilot in our family! Alana Lee Crawford was born at > 1300 ET today- 7-15-99. 7 lbs., 18.5" long. Coincidently born on my > son's second birthday. > Man, I need a nap! > > Tom Crawford > toys@atlantic.net > Gainesville, FL > N262TC > > --- > You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: bmsi@ix.netcom.com > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-17800J@telelists.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Filling/priming From: "Oscar Zuniga" Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 17:17:22 PDT X-Message-Number: 14 Kenneth wrote: >after all that work I still have lots of weave depressions >that didn't fill properly I don't think the Smooth Prime was intended as a filler per se, but rather a primer which also happens to fill minor imperfections like pinholes. I wouldn't think it would do as a weave filler or as a low spot filler. The recommended procedure (from Poly Fiber) is to use the SuperFil first to fill and smooth, then use the Smooth Prime to finish up. Or to use Smooth Prime as a final finish after filling and sanding whatever other glassing method you've used. But I've not used Smooth Prime yet, so don't know just how much of a 'filler' it is. Oscar Zuniga Medford, Oregon website at http://www.geocities.com/Pipeline/Dropzone/5610/ _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: RE: new co-pilot From: "Eduardo Iglesias" Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 01:49:56 -0300 X-Message-Number: 15 Tom Congratulations!!! I have 3 girls and they are charming. And about "Coincidently born on my son's second birthday." Would you please tell me how do you make that ? Eduardo -----Mensaje original----- De: tom Para: KR-net users group Fecha: Jueves, 15 de Julio de 1999 06:59 p.m. Asunto: [kr-net] new co-pilot >All, > >We have a new co-pilot in our family! Alana Lee Crawford was born at >1300 ET today- 7-15-99. 7 lbs., 18.5" long. Coincidently born on my >son's second birthday. >Man, I need a nap! > >Tom Crawford >toys@atlantic.net >Gainesville, FL >N262TC > >--- >You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: emiglesias@cpenet.com.ar >To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-17800J@telelists.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: RE: Fuel tank From: "Eduardo Iglesias" Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 20:00:53 -0300 X-Message-Number: 16 Gary If you really have intention to make fiberglass gearlegs, I can look for an old article in french and translate it for you. Eduardo -----Mensaje original----- De: g hamilton Para: KR-net users group Fecha: Martes, 13 de Julio de 1999 11:51 p.m. Asunto: [kr-net] Fuel tank Anybody out there fabricate their own fuel tank? What epoxy, glass and foam core would you recommend? Did you use a mold type or glass/foam/glass sandwich type? Has anybody fabricated their own fiberglass gear legs? Any recommendations for this? Thanks, Gary Hamilton Georgetown, TX --- You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: emiglesias@cpenet.com.ar To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-17800J@telelists.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: RE: Dynel From: "Eduardo Iglesias" Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 02:25:43 -0300 X-Message-Number: 17 Hennings My boat ( I add + 50 cm) , less bottom plywood, with both central spars = 29 Kg Outer Wings, with wingtanks, without final primmer = 20 Kg each (2,70 mt long each) Empennage = 8 Kg (4 pieces) It´s all I have till now. Eduardo -----Mensaje original----- De: Henning Mortensen Para: KR-net users group Fecha: Miércoles, 14 de Julio de 1999 11:16 a.m. Asunto: [kr-net] Dynel >Last year I bought a partial kr2. One thing I noticed is that the wings have >the glass not laid on bias. This concerns me and I am thinking I should >rebuild the wings. > >I have two sets of plans, one new, one 1977 vintage. This plane was built >under the 77 plans and I was reading those last night. There is no mention >of laying stuff on bias and there is even a picture of Ken and Stu laying >cloth on straight. But of course they were using Dynel. > >What I am wondering is, was the weave of Dynel such that there was no need >to lay it on bias? Any one with historical perspective? > >Also, just an idea. I have this fuse, and these wings and I don't know if >they are heavy or light. We should start getting a database of component >weights so that a builder can compare parts rather then the final weight of >the entire airplane. I would rather rebuild a wing then have a heavy >airplane. I would be willing to compile such a list if there is interest and >people were willing to weigh projects as they are being built. > >Henning Mortensen >Regina Sk. Canada > >ps. I notice there are getting to be a lot of us western canadians here. Any >interest in a regional get together at some point? We could plan on meeting >in Calgary or such > > > >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > >--- >You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: emiglesias@cpenet.com.ar >To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-17800J@telelists.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Question - Non KR related From: "Dean Collette" Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 11:15:09 -0500 X-Message-Number: 18 Netters, I know this isn't really KR related, but it is Friday, and I'm stuck. I am looking for any information on a Beech 19A. Size, shape, what did they call this, etc. Please respond off-net, as I have wasted too much bandwidth already. Dean Collette Milwaukee, Wisconsin mailto:drdean@execpc.com Web Page at http://www.execpc.com/~drdean/home.htm ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Any Aviation Weather Services on the web?? From: FLYKR2S@aol.com Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 07:21:28 EDT X-Message-Number: 19 In a message dated 7/16/99 2:19:19 AM Central Daylight Time, tomkr2s@t-three.com writes: << Anyone know if METARS, TAF's, FA's or any other aviation services are available on the internet? >> Try www.duats.com Mark Jones (N886MJ) Waukesha, WI flykr2s@aol.com http://sites.netscape.net/flykr2s/homepage ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: new co-pilot From: FLYKR2S@aol.com Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 21:13:26 EDT X-Message-Number: 20 In a message dated 7/16/99 7:50:24 PM Central Daylight Time, toys@atlantic.net writes: << > Will we see you at Oshkosh again this year? > > I think Bob Muse Sr. said it best. At Sun and Fun last year, I was talking to him and asked if he had ever flown his plane to OSH. He said yes, once. Then he said, "When you fly to OSH, you have never seen so many strangers. When you fly to S&F, you have never seen so many friends." >> Hi Tom, Sure will miss seeing you there. Enjoyed our conversation last year. Hope to see you at the gathering in Sept.! Maybe next S&F I can get down to Florida and see the difference for myself. Being originally from Georgia, I am sure there is a lot of "Southern Hospitality" there. Mark Jones (N886MJ) Waukesha, WI flykr2s@aol.com http://sites.netscape.net/flykr2s/homepage ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Any Aviation Weather Services on the web?? From: SClay10106@aol.com Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 03:56:38 EDT X-Message-Number: 21 Try www.gteduates.com and download cirrus you can check your weather there if this is incorrect let me know ill get the address from my flight school again ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Any Aviation Weather Services on the web?? From: tom Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 22:09:39 -0400 X-Message-Number: 22 R5t0ut1@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 7/16/99 7:18:47 AM !!!First Boot!!!, tomkr2s@t-three.com > writes: > > << Anyone know if METARS, TAF's, FA's or any other aviation services are > available on the internet? >> > > Tom > > Go to http://www.duats.com/ and register > as a new user. You'll need your medical certificate available as this is also > your student pilots license. > Then you'll need to go to HREF="http://www.duats.com/cirrus.html">http://www.duats.com/cirrus.html > to download the program needed to get the weather. I think it's a neat > program. You can check weather, NOTAMS, see graphic weather maps, plan cross > country trips and use the information to file your flight plans. > > Randy Stout - KR2S > Las Vegas NV > > --- > By far, the best I have found is www.earthwatch.com/SKYWATCH/skywatch.html Try it, you will like it. Tom Crawford Toys@atlantic.net Gainesville, FL N262TC ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Cockpit Fires From: Bobby Muse Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 21:11:46 -0500 X-Message-Number: 23 At 10:03 PM 07/13/1999 -0700, you wrote: > >One comment I want to make about these two RV's burning and the >unfortunate end for the pilots. For those that are adamant about not >having fuel tanks in the cockpit due to fear of fires like this, please >note that the RV designs have the fuel in the wings. On the other hand, >I watched a friend spin his Pitts into the ground hard enough to break >the plane apart into many pieces, but no fire from the fuel tank which >was in the cockpit and had the landing gear driven up through it. > >Jeff Scott - Los Alamos, NM > I've kept my mouth shut about this but... To start with, there is no perfect solution to flying with a gas tank somewhere in the aircraft. It would seem to me that a simple gravity flow system would be best. There something that I don't like about fuel being pumped to the engine all the time with full dependence on the electrical system and pump. Bobby Muse mailto:bmuse@mindspring.com Wimberly, TX ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: KR: Heads-up Display and Fuel Management Board From: "Ronald R. Eason" Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 21:40:08 -0700 X-Message-Number: 24 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01BECFD3.C6635400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----Original Message----- From: Ronald R. 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I used a wire brush to "eat" the foam out >from between the two layers of glass about 1/4" deep along the edges, >then floxed the corners together. Once the tank was shaped, I did a lay >up of glass on the inside of the tank with an extra layup of 6.6 oz glass >on the inside and outside of each joint. Next I floxed and glassed in >the tank baffles to stop the fuel from sloshing and to add some rigidity >and strength to the tanks. The wing tanks I built in place right side up >in the wings then built a top that I floxed and glassed in place. The >header tank I built upside down on the top deck, then built a separate >bottom and floxed and glassed it onto the tank. Mine were built with >Safe-T-Poxy, which is no longer available. If I was doing it today, I >would build them of VinylEster. >So far I have 185 hours on the plane and just over two years of age since >it was finished. I have had one leak so far and that turned out to be a >bad gasket under a fuel probe and that was in the first 40 hours. > >Building the tanks of foam and glass was pretty simple compared to much >of the rest of the construction. > >Jeff Scott - Los Alamos, NM > My removeable fuel tank(Header only) holds 18gal was made using foam as a male mold(no sandwich construction) except for the top. The forward deck is the top of the tank was made first using free-form sandwich contruction. After the mechanicism was complete to make the forward deck removeable, blocks of foam were glued to the bottom of the forward deck and shaped to fit behind the instrument panel and etc.. After protecting the forward deck from bonding to the tank layup, I glassed two layers of 9oz cloth to the tank mold. After drying, I removed the tank, removed the foam, sanded the inside and outside, installed baffles and fuel lines drain adapter plate, wiped epoxy(I used Safe-T-Poxy and I would use VinylEster today, also), expoxied the tank to the forward deck and appled two layers of 6oz glass to outside of the tank overlapping the bottom of the forward deck. After six years, I have never had a fuel leak what-so-ever.. Of course since I said that, I had better go out to the airport and check for fuel leaks... By the way, my Dad's(N28BM) Kr header tank hols 22.5gal and he used the same exact method that Jeff Scott used and he been flying with it since 1984. Bobby Muse mailto:bmuse@mindspring.com Wimberly, TX ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Any Aviation Weather Services on the web?? From: "Tom Andersen" Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 22:43:13 -0400 X-Message-Number: 26 Thanks Randy, that was the jackpot of text-based aviation weather info. I was able to register with my student pilot certificate. I accessed it using Procomm Plus 4.7, via a telnet session. How about Weather Depiction Charts, Radar Charts, and Significant Weather Prognostic charts? Is there any place they can be viewed? -Tom -----Original Message----- From: R5t0ut1@aol.com To: KR-net users group Date: Friday, July 16, 1999 8:20 PM Subject: [kr-net] Re: Any Aviation Weather Services on the web?? >In a message dated 7/16/99 7:18:47 AM !!!First Boot!!!, tomkr2s@t-three.com >writes: > ><< Anyone know if METARS, TAF's, FA's or any other aviation services are > available on the internet? >> > >Tom > >Go to http://www.duats.com/ and register >as a new user. You'll need your medical certificate available as this is also >your student pilots license. >Then you'll need to go to HREF="http://www.duats.com/cirrus.html">http://www.duats.com/cirrus.html > to download the program needed to get the weather. I think it's a neat >program. You can check weather, NOTAMS, see graphic weather maps, plan cross >country trips and use the information to file your flight plans. > >Randy Stout - KR2S >Las Vegas NV > >--- >You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: tomkr2s@t-three.com >To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-17800J@telelists.com > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: carburators From: mike cochran Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 22:55:03 -0400 X-Message-Number: 27 Can someone tell me about zenith carbs. I have 2. One has a bore of 1.295. The other is 1.410 in. Which one would be best for 1968 CC VW. Thanks Mike Cochran ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: new co-pilot From: Bobby Muse Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 21:50:57 -0500 X-Message-Number: 28 At 03:33 PM 07/15/1999 -0400, you wrote: >All, > >We have a new co-pilot in our family! Alana Lee Crawford was born at >1300 ET today- 7-15-99. 7 lbs., 18.5" long. Coincidently born on my >son's second birthday. >Man, I need a nap! > >Tom Crawford > Tom, You're a lucky, lucky guy! Bobby Muse mailto:bmuse@mindspring.com Wimberly, TX ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Weight and Balance, C.G. Display Gauge From: "Ronald R. Eason" Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 23:14:34 -0700 X-Message-Number: 29 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01BECFE0.F7EA3D60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I would like to know how some of you would react if a product was offered that would measure the weight on each landing gear and calculate the C.G. and display it on a Display. Also this same device would measure the Propeller Thrust and Display it on the same Gauge? I am thinking about engineering such a product. KRRon ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01BECFE0.F7EA3D60 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; name="Ronald R. 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Happy building and/or flying Greg Martin Bakersfield, CA On Fri, 16 Jul 1999 06:39:52 -0500 "Mark Langford" writes: >> Hi everyone, I just want to let all of you know that I received a >bug, or >> some kind of contamination from this KR-net. It was not a virous, >but >> something. > >Welcome to the world of Microsoft, where things disappear or become >corrupt >overnight. It happens all the time, so don't take it personally, or >blame >it on KRNet... > >Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama >mailto:langford@hiwaay.net >see KR2S N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford > > >--- >You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: idrawtobuild@juno.com >To unsubscribe send a blank email to >leave-kr-net-17800J@telelists.com > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Emergency Proceedures (in light of how not to get out) From: "Wendell Hinman" Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 22:13:6 X-Message-Number: 31 After reading about the aviators that died in emergencies recently, I have to admit that I wonder just how prepaired we are for the unmentionable stuff. When I flew F4's I used to think that all the emergency practice was silly untill I had my first radar screen catch on fire in flight. Then the fusilage fuel leak and a few other major problems. Then, emergency training took on an entirly different meaning. I would like to see the KR Net start generating real emergency proceedures. We could spend time generating some what if sinario's and solutions. Ground egress is a good place to start. If the gentleman mentioned in the groud fire had practiced getting out maybe, he would have been able to get out of the shoulder harness. We talk about having paracutes, but has anyone thought about opening a canopy in flight? I suspect that if it hinges in the front, it may be real heavy to open at 120kts. How do you avoid the tail section? We civilians don't have Life Support Officers and Stan-Eval Officers to force us to think about and practice emergency proceedures. So it must be up to us. Now that's a lot of stuff from this soap box. Where do we go from here, learn to be better and safe? To much serious stuff Wendy Hinman Ontario, Ca --- END OF DIGEST --- You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: johnbou@timberline.com To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-17800J@telelists.com