From: KR-net users group digest[SMTP:kr-net@telelists.com] Sent: Sunday, August 15, 1999 12:14 AM To: kr-net digest recipients Subject: kr-net digest: August 14, 1999 KR-net users group Digest for Saturday, August 14, 1999. 1. Engine CG and control rods 2. Re: Drain hole size 3. New Beetles for Old 4. Re: New Beetles for Old 5. Re: New Beetles for Old 6. Re: New Beetles for Old 7. Re: New Beetles for Old 8. Beetle components 9. oil breather 10. Re: New Beetles for Old 11. Re: radio license 12. Re: Beetle components 13. P lead question 14. Re: P lead question ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Engine CG and control rods From: "John Martindale" Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 4:18:30 X-Message-Number: 1 Hi folks Based on the principle that the C of G of an object hung below a rope is always directly below the rope attach point, couldn't an engine C of G be calculated by hanging it from one point, photographing it, then again at two other well spaced points. By extrapolating the rope by drawing a line on each photo would not the C of G be within the cocked hat. This method could give C of G in all three axes. There might be some paraellax error but I reckon it would come out pretty accurate. I tried this on the missus the other night and C of G turned out just right. O an another matter, has anyone experience with an elevator control rod going from the bottom of the stick, through the rear spar to the lower of an equal reversing arm mounted on its rear thence from the upper of the arm direct to a horn attached downwards from the elevator spar of a length the same as per the plans. This seems simpler, no pulleys or unequal cable tensions to worry about. See Ya John. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Drain hole size From: RFG842@aol.com Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 10:23:41 EDT X-Message-Number: 2 Takes a little extra cost and effort, but I used a few, (4) plastic, seaplane drain hole gromlets on the belly at the tail, with 1/4" holes. Looks a little more finished and I suppose you get a little venteri action from the gromlets. Building a tail dragger so just needed a few in the tail. Available from Aircraft Spruce but in your area, every dealer that services fabric seaplanes must have them. Bob ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: New Beetles for Old From: Michael Taglieri Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 03:06:50 -0400 X-Message-Number: 3 >> Could it be that the last Corvair engines were made more than 30 >> years ago? Yes, I know that the air-cooled VW engines aren't >> exactly new anymore, >> > >Oh contraire my friend. The VW Beetle with its aircooled motor is >still >in production. I saw a 1999 Beetle just the other day. It was up from >Mexico. You can buy BRAND NEW 1600 cc factory built aircooled VW >motors >here in California. Interesting how we Americans automatically assume >that it doesn't exist unless we can buy here in the good ole US. We can't buy it because it doesn't meet current EPA standards, but we can buy all the parts, including complete engines. Are there 1999 Beetle parts you're not allowed to buy, or could you get an old Beetle and replace every part but the VIN plate? (Or to do tjhe same thing a bit quicker, what would stop a person from riding his old '70 Beetle on a vacation to Tijuana, buying a 1999 Beetle there, then riding his brand-new '70 Beetle back to the US with no original parts on it except the VIN plate and the license plate?) Mike Taglieri ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: New Beetles for Old From: CHOCTAWCWR@aol.com Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 15:34:29 EDT X-Message-Number: 4 switching vin plates is illegal, is that how you live your life? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: New Beetles for Old From: "Bruce S. Campbell" Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 17:13:42 -0400 X-Message-Number: 5 He's a lawyer. CHOCTAWCWR@aol.com wrote: > switching vin plates is illegal, is that how you live your life? > > --- > You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: bmsi@ix.netcom.com > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-17800J@telelists.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: New Beetles for Old From: EveninBrz@aol.com Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 17:38:56 EDT X-Message-Number: 6 In a message dated 8/14/1999 2:08:27 PM Pacific Daylight Time, bmsi@ix.netcom.com writes: << He's a lawyer. CHOCTAWCWR@aol.com wrote: > switching vin plates is illegal, is that how you live your life? > >> Well that is pretty sure. What gave you your first clue that he was a lawyer???? Larry Shull ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: New Beetles for Old From: jscott.pilot@juno.com Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 18:44:23 -0700 X-Message-Number: 7 On Sat, 14 Aug 1999 17:38:56 EDT EveninBrz@aol.com writes: >In a message dated 8/14/1999 2:08:27 PM Pacific Daylight Time, >bmsi@ix.netcom.com writes: > ><< He's a lawyer. > > CHOCTAWCWR@aol.com wrote: > > > switching vin plates is illegal, is that how you live your life? > > >> >Well that is pretty sure. What gave you your first clue that he was a >lawyer???? > Larry Shull > This is verging on a personal attack, so I will ask that this sbuject line be dropped. Net Mom...... Jeff Scott - Los Alamos, NM mailto:jscott.pilot@juno.com See N1213w construction and first flight at http://www.thuntek.net/~jeb/krjeff.htm ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Beetle components From: "Tobin Dunham" Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 20:39:26 PDT X-Message-Number: 8 I have owned a couple of Beetles in my life, and I've always been aware of "new" Beetles being produced in Mexico (I believe they are based on the design for the last production year for VW, 1978?). I would hesitate to buy any of these to put in your aircraft unless you are certain of the quality of the components. I'm not trying to slam the Mexicans, but I know someone who bought some of their parts to install on his Beetle and it turned out to be poor quality. You're probably better off buying a Great Plains conversion or rebuilding an old VW engine yourself (as long as it's the original case). Maybe the Mexican Beetles are OK, but I am not 100% sure that they are holding the original German quality standards. You'd want to know what level of quality control they use for casting the case, etc. And an aircraft is the LAST place I'd want sub-standard equipment. And on that subject, I notice a lot of people in this group mentioning different ideas for building/operating aircraft. I think sometimes it's easy to lose sight of the fact that any component in your aircraft can literally be the difference between life and death. I know none of us wants to spend more money than we have to, but safety is NOT the place to scrimp. When building and/or buying components, it is your responsibility to make sure that every piece is up to par. Just food for thought. Toby Dunham Houston, TX homepage at http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Runway/7013 _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: oil breather From: mike cochran Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 00:20:13 -0400 X-Message-Number: 9 Has anyone used the new GP crankcase breather? If so does the metal gasket go down as in the stock breather or upwards. Thanks Mike C. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: New Beetles for Old From: HAshraf@aol.com Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 00:15:45 EDT X-Message-Number: 10 In a message dated 8/14/99 8:04:13 PM EST, jscott.pilot@juno.com writes: jscott.pilot@juno.com wrote << This is verging on a personal attack, so I will ask that this sbuject line be dropped. Net Mom...... >> Thank you. You guys need to chill. On the KR2S project front things have been a little slow. I am putting a lot of time (weekends only as my weekdays are spent in Tucson, AZ) in but did not get much accomplished. One reason I I deviated (for the first time) from plans a little and that consumed some time. I decided to run some steel cables from shoulder harness to rear of the fuselage. For that I had to build attach points. Then I decided to glass the area between the two spars. Allan (my hangar mate) keep saying that "there should be some thing between your rear end and the ground when you crash." So, I foamed the area up and tomorrow I should add a layer of 5.85 oz glass. That whole operation will also add about two lbs to the fuselage weight. I also added ply gussetts to the rear spar. Do not ask me why. I was able to put carbon fiber on one side of the elevator and today Mike (yes he is back working hard. I had the honor to loan him the nails he used to nail his fire-wall to the fuselage) helped me hotwire the other side. Tomorrow I should be able to put carbon on the second side. Then I can move to the front spars. The rear spars are done. I am thinking about moving the project to Tucson but have not been able to locate a good place to work there yet. It seems hangar space is hard to come by in Tucson International. Will keep you posted on any progress. Haris ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: radio license From: cartera Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 16:17:59 -0600 X-Message-Number: 11 Ross Youngblood wrote: > > Station License is only required for trips outside of the USA. > -- Ross > > Oscar Zuniga wrote: > > > > Hello again, netters > > > > I noticed an item on Rick Junkin's flight test pages (checklist) that lists > > station license as a checkoff item. Didn't the FCC remove the requirement > > for a station license for aircraft VHF comm installations? I do have a > > "Restricted Radiotelephone Operator Permit" (FCC Form 753) from back in > > 1981, but I don't think either this or the station license are required. > > Yes/no? > > > > Oscar Zuniga > > Medford, Oregon > > mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com > > website at http://www.geocities.com/Pipeline/Dropzone/5610/index.html > > > > _______________________________________________________________ > > Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com > > > > --- > > You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: rossy@teleport.com > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-17800J@telelists.com > > --- > You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: cartera@cuug.ab.ca > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-17800J@telelists.com Not to Canada! -- Adrian VE6AFY Mailto:cartera@cuug.ab.ca http://www.cuug.ab.ca/~cartera ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Beetle components From: Mike Mims Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 21:26:12 -0700 X-Message-Number: 12 Tobin Dunham wrote: > <<< You're probably better off buying a Great Plains conversion or rebuilding an old VW engine yourself (as long as it's the original case).>>>> I would think you would want the new production aluminum cases instead of those old magnesium piles of *&%$! <<>>> I think a lot of those parts come from German plants in Brazil and Mexico. Gee I wonder where those super duper VW parts come from that Great Planes come from? ;o) -- zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Micheal Mims Filling and Sanding again! http://www.fortunecity.com/marina/anchor/270/ http://members.home.com/mikemims/ Aliso Viejo CA ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: P lead question From: Mike Mims Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 21:37:14 -0700 X-Message-Number: 13 Hey I noticed in the Tony B book that his wiring diagrams show the P leads from the Mags to the kill switch shielded in separate pieces of shielding. I was wondering if its OK to run both P leads inside one piece of shielding or do they need to be kept separate? I mounted the fuel shut off valve today. Tony B said the fuel shut off should be convenient and easy to reach (JD must have skipped that chapter) so I mounted it so that my throttle hand has to move a whole 3 inches to actuate it. I also mounted the firewall today. I think that's one of those things that could be considered a mile stone eh? Tomorrow after my hockey game I plan to work on the fuel system some more and maybe finish it up. We shall see! -- zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Micheal Mims Filling and Sanding again! http://www.fortunecity.com/marina/anchor/270/ http://members.home.com/mikemims/ Aliso Viejo CA ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: P lead question From: "Steven & Anita Oliver" Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 01:24:45 -0600 X-Message-Number: 14 It would be ok to shield the p-lead in one piece of shilding Steve Oliver (A&P) -----Original Message----- From: Mike Mims To: KR-net users group Date: Saturday, August 14, 1999 10:41 PM Subject: [kr-net] P lead question > > >Hey I noticed in the Tony B book that his wiring diagrams show the P >leads from the Mags to the kill switch shielded in separate pieces of >shielding. I was wondering if its OK to run both P leads inside one >piece of shielding or do they need to be kept separate? > >I mounted the fuel shut off valve today. Tony B said the fuel shut off >should be convenient and easy to reach (JD must have skipped that >chapter) so I mounted it so that my throttle hand has to move a whole 3 >inches to actuate it. I also mounted the firewall today. I think >that's one of those things that could be considered a mile stone eh? >Tomorrow after my hockey game I plan to work on the fuel system some >more and maybe finish it up. We shall see! > > > >-- >zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz >Micheal Mims >Filling and Sanding again! >http://www.fortunecity.com/marina/anchor/270/ >http://members.home.com/mikemims/ >Aliso Viejo CA >^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > >--- >You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: saoliver@olp.net >To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-17800J@telelists.com > --- END OF DIGEST --- You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: johnbou@timberline.com To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-17800J@telelists.com