From: KR-net users group digest[SMTP:kr-net@telelists.com] Sent: Monday, September 13, 1999 12:31 AM To: kr-net digest recipients Subject: kr-net digest: September 12, 1999 KR-net users group Digest for Sunday, September 12, 1999. 1. Re: paint weight? 2. Re: paint weight? 3. A simple question 4. Re: A simple question 5. Updated Website 6. Re: [Fwd: KR2 Help please?] 7. Re: Updated Website 8. Re: Updated Website 9. Rod end bearings for hinges. 10. Re: [kr-net]Urethane vs Others 11. Re: first flight 12. Re: Rod end bearings for hinges. 13. anyone help? 14. Re: aircraft review and search for comments 15. Re: Hand actuated brakes 16. Re: flying characteristics 17. Re: Stick time 18. Sunday Flyin Breakfast 19. Re: first flight 20. Re: Find your fellow builders & ???? 21. Re: Find your fellow builders & ???? 22. Re: A simple question 23. Find your fellow builders & ???? (SORRY) 24. Re: Gear Brackets 25. Re: Rod end bearings for hinges. 26. Re: Rod end bearings for hinges. 27. Diehl Gear brackets help. 28. Re: A simple question 29. New KRnet page experiment 30. Re: 98 Gathering video 31. Re: Diehl Gear brackets help. 32. FW: Volkspares - Suppliers of New & Used VW Parts & Accessories - Aviation Engines ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: paint weight? From: Donald Reid Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 05:45:30 -0400 X-Message-Number: 1 Mark Langford wrote: > > Anybody have any numbers on how much painting their plane added to the > weight? I'm starting to think about weight and balance calculations, ... Back when John Denver augered in, there was a lot of discussion on his plane. One thing that I remember was about the re-paint. Burt was quoted as saying Long-Ez paint was approximately 30 pounds and did not significantly affect the CG. -- Don Reid Bumpass, Va. mailto:donreid@erols.com KR2XL at http://www.erols.com/donreid/kr_page.htm Ultralights at http://www.erols.com/donreid/usua250.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: paint weight? From: Richard Selix Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 08:19:14 -0700 X-Message-Number: 2 Mark: A good estimate is .0875 pounds per wetted area. Of course there are paint jobs, and there are paint jobs. Sounds like Y2K is close. Good luck, Richard Selix San Diego, Ca. Mark Langford wrote: > Anybody have any numbers on how much painting their plane added to the > weight? I'm starting to think about weight and balance calculations, since > I'll have my wings done soon. Before I take them off I can do a little > rough guestimate as to engine mount length with the Corvair. I carbon > fibered one wing last weekend, except for one lower panel, which I'll have > done shortly. Web page update is in the works... > > Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama > mailto:langford@hiwaay.net > see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford > > --- > You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: rselix@earthlink.net > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-17800J@telelists.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: A simple question From: "Larry Jacks" Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 09:49:58 -0600 X-Message-Number: 3 In two weeks, I'll be moving into a new home. One of the best features of the house is the 23 X 28 foot workshop in the basement. To allow easy access to large items, I've put in 6 foot wide doors for both the shop and the basement. Now, I need to know how wide a KR-2S is with the outer panels removed? Which is wider, the wings (including attach fittings) or the horizontal stabilizer? If necessary, I could take the engine off and try to get the project out of doors by turning it sideways. It'd be a pain but hopefully I wouldn't have to do that too many times. I'll be promoted from lurker to builder soon and need to know if I can get the thing out of the basement when finished. If it's going to be too much trouble, I'll have to consider another project. My heart's set on a KR though. Larry Jacks ljacks@codenet.net Never stand between a man and his toys ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: A simple question From: HAshraf@aol.com Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 12:37:45 EDT X-Message-Number: 4 In a message dated 9/12/99 10:51:51 AM EST, ljacks@codenet.net writes: << Now, I need to know how wide a KR-2S is with the outer panels removed? Which is wider, the wings (including attach fittings) or the horizontal stabilizer? >> Stock stab is 72" wide. Rear spar is 84" + add another 3" for WAF. front spar is 83" but WAF's are little larger. Haris Haris ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Updated Website From: Mark Jones Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 12:15:15 -0500 X-Message-Number: 5 Hey Guys & Gals, I have updated my web site with new photos and info. You will also see how I modified the aileron belcrank assembly location for more clearance. This is a must if you are planning to use the AS504X airfoil. View my site at: http://sites.netscape.net/flykr2s/homepage See ya in Kentucky, Mark Jones (N886MJ) Waukesha, WI. flykr2s@execpc.com http://sites.netscape.net/flykr2s/homepage ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: [Fwd: KR2 Help please?] From: WGLIDE78@aol.com Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 13:57:43 EDT X-Message-Number: 6 re a&p mech . you could ck with Glen Peterson that works out of crest airfield south of seattle.I don't have his number at hand but can get it if you decide to go that route ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Updated Website From: "Mark Langford" Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 13:36:32 -0500 X-Message-Number: 7 Mark Jones wrote: >... how I modified the aileron belcrank assembly location for more > clearance. This is a must if you are planning to use the AS504X airfoil. Actually, I think it's only necessary for the 16% AS5046. There's more room on the 18% AS5048. Fantastic progress, as usual! I'll bet you'll be flying before I will. Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama mailto:langford@hiwaay.net see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Updated Website From: Mark Jones Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 15:18:28 -0500 X-Message-Number: 8 Mark Langford wrote: > Mark Jones wrote: > > >... how I modified the aileron belcrank assembly location for more > > clearance. This is a must if you are planning to use the AS504X airfoil. > > Actually, I think it's only necessary for the 16% AS5046. There's more room > on the 18% AS5048. Correction, Thanks Mark L. for pointing out the correction. This mod I spoke of is for the AS5046 only. Also, the relocation modification was my solution to my problem. I am sure there are many other ways to mount/modify the aileron belcrank assembly to adequately accept the new AS5046 airfoil. I wanted to install the AS5046 on my bird and went as far as cutting all the templates. The problem I ran into was I built my incidence to plans which would be easy to change. The reason I decided to stay with the RAF48 was all the seat construction attached to the spars, the wing walk area was already finished, a 5/8 x 5/8 strip of spruce was laminated completely across the fuselage floor and the aft spar, and I also installed load transition blocks above the aft spar as was done on the main spar. This would have caused excessive rework plus I would have had to redo a $185.00 upholstery job. My recommendation to all of you is if you can possibly convert or install the new AS504X airfoil - do so!!! Mark Jones (N886MJ) Waukesha, WI flykr2s@execpc.com http://sites.netscape.net/flykr2s/homepage ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Rod end bearings for hinges. From: Mike Mims Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 14:09:23 -0700 X-Message-Number: 9 Hey those rod end bearing are defiantly the hot setup. One thing you might run into with the inspector will be his concern that there is nothing to keep the bearing from rotating in the spar. For some reason they like to see something mechanical to keep this type of hinge from turning. Obviously if it were to turn in the spar the control would bind. Would it ever happen? I seriously doubt it but I am not the guy who will be inspecting your plane. -- zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Micheal Mims Building New Gear Legs http://www.fortunecity.com/marina/anchor/270/ http://members.home.com/mikemims/ Aliso Viejo CA ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: [kr-net]Urethane vs Others From: "J.R.L. Engineering Consortium Ltd." Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 17:00:22 -0700 X-Message-Number: 10 -----Original Message----- From: Michael Taglieri To: KR-net users group Cc: kr-net@telelists.com Date: Saturday, September 11, 1999 1:56 PM Subject: [kr-net] Re: [kr-net]Urethane vs Others >I read in an old article on the KR (I believe in Popular Mechanics) that >he changed the recommendation to urethane because otherwise you could >lose the foam structure maintaining the shape of the airfoil because of a >leak in a wing tank.. > >Mike Taglieri > >On Fri, 10 Sep 1999 14:37:15 -0700 Ross Youngblood >writes: >>Ron, >> This is nifty information. Ken Rand used Styrofoam on the prototype >>KR, but Urethane on the kits. I have used both, and like shaping >>Urethane better. However you can't hot-wire Urethane, unless you like >>to breathe cyanide gas. >> You don't Hot Wire urethane foam you sand it with a long sanding board bridging between the foil ribs, then fill and cover with glass. Ron ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: first flight From: "J.R.L. Engineering Consortium Ltd." Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 17:09:23 -0700 X-Message-Number: 11 -----Original Message----- From: JEAN To: KR-net users group Date: Saturday, September 11, 1999 4:50 PM Subject: [kr-net] Re: first flight >John Shaffer flew his new KR-2 ( stretched and widened ) today. He trucked >it down from Ohio 4 weeks ago to finish it up in our hangar and do his first >flight where his original KR first flew. Dan Diehl videoed this one just >like his first flight. Those old time KR people will remember John as the >one who set the record for spins in a KR and living ( after a lengthy >hospital stay ). John is a great guy and it was good to see him back in a >KR. >Jean >N4DD Broken Arrow, OK > >I am glad for John. We discussed his experience at last years flyin and its something to rhink about. He like the Idea of my hears-up display. Tell him Hi for me. Ron Ron >--- >You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: jrlkc@mindspring.com >To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-17800J@telelists.com > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Rod end bearings for hinges. From: Steven Eberhart Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 18:12:22 -0500 (CDT) X-Message-Number: 12 On Sun, 12 Sep 1999, Mike Mims wrote: > Hey those rod end bearing are defiantly the hot setup. One thing you > might run into with the inspector will be his concern that there is > nothing to keep the bearing from rotating in the spar. For some reason > they like to see something mechanical to keep this type of hinge from > turning. Obviously if it were to turn in the spar the control would > bind. Would it ever happen? I seriously doubt it but I am not the guy > who will be inspecting your plane. Tell him to go and look at the DC-3 ailerons. It is how they are hinged. Steve Eberhart mailto:newtech@newtech.com THE WING FLIES! - http://www.newtech.com/nlf for info on the new, flight tested, KRnet/UIUC airfoils. Good job KRnet, you can be proud of your contribution to Sport Aviation. Special thanks to Dr. Ashok Gopalarathnam and Dr. Michael Selig for some great Sport Aviation airfoils. One test is worth a thousand expert opinions but a thousand opinions are easier to get. --plagiarized from an unknown author All information, in any of my aircraft related correspondence, is strictly food for thought requiring additional, qualified, engineering analysis. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: anyone help? From: John Bryhan Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 17:27:05 -0600 X-Message-Number: 13 Last year someone posted a really cheap place to subscribe to Kitplanes. Like about $6 or $7 per year. I did. Now it's time to renew and I can't find the ph# and I've deleted all that old mail (upgraded to Linux) Anyone out there have that ole 800# ?? jeb@thuntek.net http://www.thuntek.net/~jeb/krpage.htm ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: aircraft review and search for comments From: GARYKR2@cs.com Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 21:20:22 EDT X-Message-Number: 14 I will have to agree with mike. Gary Hinkle Middletown, Pa. garykr2@cs.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Hand actuated brakes From: GARYKR2@cs.com Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 21:26:49 EDT X-Message-Number: 15 Thank You Very Much! I rest my case for foot brakes. I couldn't have said it better . Gary Hinkle Middletown, Pa. garykr2@cs.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: flying characteristics From: GARYKR2@cs.com Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 21:37:50 EDT X-Message-Number: 16 Mike, I'm realy bad at remembering names, did I talk to you at Pottstown Sunday? Gary Hinkle Middletown, Pa. garykr2@cs.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Stick time From: Larry Shull Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 18:58:25 -0700 X-Message-Number: 17 SClay10106@aol.com wrote: > These are the kinds of stories I like to hear I think they inspire everyone. > Thanks for sharing it with us. I have decided not to sell the KR-1 thanks to > some of the other members in the West valley (you know who you are) and i > will definately be giving you a call this week so we can get together and see > if we can get another bird in the air I keep coming to points where I have to > chose between flight school and putting the money into building and i get > frustrated and wanna sell it. When i hear the stories and see progress i > wanna keep it and get it flying. Thanks everyone. > > Clay > Clay, Glad to hear it! I know how you feel, Linux has been kicking my butt for more than a week now, if it wasn't for Patti's encouragement I would have given it up. Call anytime, I'll be glad to help you, in any way that I can. Larry > > --- > You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: LarryShu@PacBell.net > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-17800J@telelists.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Sunday Flyin Breakfast From: GARYKR2@cs.com Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 22:08:29 EDT X-Message-Number: 18 Had a great time at the 45th Pottstown- Linerick Flyin as usual. This is one of my yearly make or break trips. I spent about 2 1/2 hrs of nonstop questions from people, letting kids sit in my "2" for photos and "flying" ( I have more fun than the kids, the smiles are worth a million ). Met a couple of folks that have , had, or flew in KRs. So I pushed the net at them. Did my normal " low approch " at 180mph, with a pullup at the end. Then went over to Jerry's airport, and we went buzzing around for an hour and a half. Then to finish the day off, a good friend of mine gave me his new ultralite to fly for an hour. I'M BEAT, I can't take too many days like this. I'M ALL FUNED OUT!!!!!!!!! Gary Hinkle Middletown, Pa. garykr2@cs.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: first flight From: Bobby Muse Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 21:53:20 -0500 X-Message-Number: 19 At 06:41 PM 09/11/1999 -0500, you wrote: >John Shaffer flew his new KR-2 ( stretched and widened ) today. He trucked >it down from Ohio 4 weeks ago to finish it up in our hangar and do his first >flight where his original KR first flew. Dan Diehl videoed this one just >like his first flight. Those old time KR people will remember John as the >one who set the record for spins in a KR and living ( after a lengthy >hospital stay ). John is a great guy and it was good to see him back in a >KR. >Jean >N4DD Broken Arrow, OK It will be GREAT to have John back in the air. I knew John could do it. John is the type of builder that makes me proud just to be around other builders like John. This is a good day! Bobby Muse N122B - Wimberley, TX mailto:bmuse@mindspring.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Find your fellow builders & ???? From: "Peter Johnson" Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 22:52:55 -0000 X-Message-Number: 20 Hi Mike. Please add me to the 'Find A Builder' listing. Peter Johnson - KR2S 109 Mascott Avenue, Kenora, Ontario P9N 3A2 807-468-4764 ---------- > From: Mike Mims > To: KR-net users group > Subject: [kr-net] Find your fellow builders & ???? > Date: Friday, September 03, 1999 4:15 AM > > Don't forget about the "Find a Builder Near You Page" that's at: > > http://www.fortunecity.com/marina/anchor/270/mapframe.html > > also if your not on this page send me your info and I will add you. Even > if you just have plans and want to build feel free to add yourself as a > KR nutt! :o) Yes that's right, even if you want-a-be's cant get rides > at the gathering you can still have yourself listed on this site. OK > guys I am only kidding. Have a nice long labor day weekend (Americans). > The rest of you have a nice weekend too! > > PS if you info needs updated please advise. > > > -- > zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz > Micheal Mims > Filling and Sanding again! > http://www.fortunecity.com/marina/anchor/270/ > http://members.home.com/mikemims/ > Aliso Viejo CA > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > --- > You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: pjohnson@voyageur.ca > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-17800J@telelists.com > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Find your fellow builders & ???? From: Mike Mims Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 21:02:05 -0700 X-Message-Number: 21 Peter Johnson wrote: > > Hi Mike. Please add me to the 'Find A Builder' listing. > > Peter Johnson - KR2S > 109 Mascott Avenue, > Kenora, Ontario > P9N 3A2 > 807-468-4764 Done -- zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Micheal Mims Building New Gear Legs http://www.fortunecity.com/marina/anchor/270/ http://members.home.com/mikemims/ Aliso Viejo CA ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: A simple question From: flyakr2 Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 21:12:14 -0700 X-Message-Number: 22 Larry If your heart is set on a KR, no 6 ft. door would stop me. Where there's a will there's a way. Actually, all I think you would have to do is just put a twist on the plane by turning it kind of kitty corner if you know what I mean, but at the same time leaving it flat on the main wheels. I don't think the S model is any wider from stub wing to stub wing (outside of attach fittings) than a regular KR-2, just longer from nose to tail, but I would find out for sure. The width of my KR-2 is 7' 2" at the stub wings. I can't remember the width of the horizontal stab, but the S model might be wider. No guarantee it will work, but like I said, if it was me I would find a way. You only have to take it in once and out once if that makes you feel any better. By the way, I have a nice little KR-2 for sale if you know anyone who is interested. I really don't want to sell it, but financial difficulties are beginning to take their toll. It can be viewed at the following website. http://www.rainbowaviation.com Pass the word along if you don't mind. This one is equipped for a tall pilot because of the canopy. If it doesn't sell soon, I'm contemplating utilizing my lower living room (use to be a garage) for finishing the plane. Fortunately, I have a den I can use while the plane is under construction. I only wish my situation was as promising as yours. My door way straight across is 4' 9 1/2", and I already have it figured out how to get it through the door. If I go corner to corner it is 95", which gives me 9" to spare. I'm going to have an engineer friend of mine build a very small cart, probably doesn't need to be more than a couple feet wide with small caster wheels on it. It will have an upright support, which will be premeasured for the proper height to cradle the prop hub on the end of the engine. I will simply put the cart in the middle of the door way on the inside just over the threshhold, hire Arnold Schwarzenegger to lift it up into the cradle, one guy on the light end (the tail), and twist it and guide it through the hole. No reason it shouldn't work. Good luck to you. Dave Larry Jacks wrote: > In two weeks, I'll be moving into a new home. One of the best features of > the house is the 23 X 28 foot workshop in the basement. To allow easy access > to large items, I've put in 6 foot wide doors for both the shop and the > basement. > > Now, I need to know how wide a KR-2S is with the outer panels removed? > Which is wider, the wings (including attach fittings) or the horizontal > stabilizer? If necessary, I could take the engine off and try to get the > project out of doors by turning it sideways. It'd be a pain but hopefully I > wouldn't have to do that too many times. > > I'll be promoted from lurker to builder soon and need to know if I can > get the thing out of the basement when finished. If it's going to be too > much trouble, I'll have to consider another project. My heart's set on a KR > though. > > Larry Jacks ljacks@codenet.net > Never stand between a man and his toys > > --- > You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: flyakr2@tco.net > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-17800J@telelists.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Find your fellow builders & ???? (SORRY) From: Mike Mims Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 21:07:54 -0700 X-Message-Number: 23 Mike Mims wrote: > > Peter Johnson wrote: > > > > Hi Mike. Please add me to the 'Find A Builder' listing. > > > > Peter Johnson - KR2S > > 109 Mascott Avenue, > > Kenora, Ontario > > P9N 3A2 > > 807-468-4764 > > Done Obviously that was supposed to go directly to Peter and not the list. Sorry about that but while i am here I wanted to let everyone know the cowling hinge is coming out just fine. Looks good and I am sure it will work just the same. The layups on the new gearlegs are finally done. They look good as well. I cant wait until I get my brackets from Dan so I can re-mount the gear. While we are on the subject of Dan Diehl landing gear does anyone out there know how much the upper and lower brackets weigh? I have heard someone say they are heavy, what is heavy? -- zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Micheal Mims Building New Gear Legs http://www.fortunecity.com/marina/anchor/270/ http://members.home.com/mikemims/ Aliso Viejo CA ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Gear Brackets From: "Dean Collette" Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 23:42:23 -0500 X-Message-Number: 24 ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike Mims > While we are on the subject of Dan Diehl > landing gear does anyone out there know how much the upper and lower > brackets weigh? I have heard someone say they are heavy, what is heavy? Mike, The Dan Diehl spar mounting brackets that I had weighed in at roughly 1850g each (4.1 lbs.) I know I weighed the lower brackets at one point, but I don't recall what the weight was. The Diehl lower bracket is made from 1/4" steel plate with a 1/4" gusset in the middle. I have never put the numbers to it, but 1/4" seems to be a bit much then what is actually needed there. Dean Collette Milwaukee, Wisconsin mailto:drdean@execpc.com Web Page at http://www.execpc.com/~drdean/home.htm ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Rod end bearings for hinges. From: "Dean Collette" Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 23:50:15 -0500 X-Message-Number: 25 ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike Mims > Hey those rod end bearing are defiantly the hot setup. One thing you > might run into with the inspector will be his concern that there is > nothing to keep the bearing from rotating in the spar. Mike, Glad you like the hinges. When I built mine, I put a little red lockt*te on the bolt before threading it into the bearing. With everything tightened down, it's pretty tough to get them to turn, but if they do, the deflecting action will automatically re-align them. I built a small test hinge and have tried everything I can think of to get them to bind - so far, they just won't do it. Even if I leave the bolt into the back of the bearing very loose and attempt to turn it, the act of deflecting the elevator will turn the bearing back to the correct position and the action fails to bind. This is not to say that binding can never happen, I just haven't found a way to do it yet. More then what I hoped for . . . Dean Collette Milwaukee, Wisconsin mailto:drdean@execpc.com Web Page at http://www.execpc.com/~drdean/home.htm ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Rod end bearings for hinges. From: Mike Mims Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 22:00:37 -0700 X-Message-Number: 26 Dean Collette wrote: > Even if I leave the bolt into the back of the bearing very loose and attempt to turn it, > the act of deflecting the elevator will turn the bearing back to the > correct position and the action fails to bind. This is not to say that > binding can never happen, I just haven't found a way to do it yet. > The tie rod type bearing must aid in the re-alignment when the elevator is deflected. That's pretty cool! Haris and I noticed that the RV6 in our hanger has the exact same setup on the rudder. Great minds must think alike! :o) -- zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Micheal Mims Building New Gear Legs http://www.fortunecity.com/marina/anchor/270/ http://members.home.com/mikemims/ Aliso Viejo CA ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Diehl Gear brackets help. From: HAshraf@aol.com Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 02:26:28 EDT X-Message-Number: 27 Hi Guys, Both Mike and I are seriously thinking of making our own brackets to mount the Diehl legs to our planes. Could someone tell us the angle the legs make with the spar and the angle the wheel mounting bracket makes with the vertical line. I would guess the two angle do not add up to 90 degrees as the legs would flex a little once the weight of the airplane is put on it. Any other suggestions (desigh info) will also be appriciated. We plan to use 1/8" 4130 steel plate. Haris ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: A simple question From: Michael Taglieri Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 01:39:09 -0400 X-Message-Number: 28 I only wish my situation was as promising as yours. My door way straight across is 4' 9 1/2", >and I already have it figured out how to get it through the door. If I go >corner to corner it is 95", which gives me 9" to spare. I'm going to have an >engineer friend of mine build a very small cart, probably doesn't need to be >more than a couple feet wide with small caster wheels on it. It will have an >upright support, which will be premeasured for the proper height to cradle the >prop hub on the end of the engine. I will simply put the cart in the middle of >the door way on the inside just over the threshhold, hire Arnold Schwarzenegger >to lift it up into the cradle, one guy on the light end (the tail), and twist it >and guide it through the hole. No reason it shouldn't work. Good >luck to you. So how narrow a door would THIS go through? I always thought that moving the plane vertically would be the best way for a narrow door, but how tall is a KR-2 assuming you take off the canopy and gear. Would the tailfeathers be the tightest squeeze? Mike Taglieri ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: New KRnet page experiment From: Ross Youngblood Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 23:57:24 -0700 X-Message-Number: 29 Instead of working on my KR, I have been playing with the website. I know, I should be making a new set of molds to pour lead, but I cooked steaks on the grill today instead. I took some digitized shots of an Apollo GPS and made a table of links out of it. The stuff is at: http://www.krnet.org/KRnew.html The .wav file you hear is my VW when I had it running on only 2 cylinders. If anyone has some good .wav files of a KR in flight, that would be better. The sites inside Boxes are not hosted on the KRnet host at teleport, so they might break. I added a link to the "project_viking" KR tips site. Comment off line to me at krnet@krnet.org. Also any new links you want posted send them there too. -- Regards Ross ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: 98 Gathering video From: Ross Youngblood Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 21:24:38 -0700 X-Message-Number: 30 Thanks Mark, I am updating the KR web site. I clobbered the old Video Bob web page several months ago, so I need to build a new link. -- Ross Mark Langford wrote: > > KRNetHeads, > > I just finished watching Video Bob's 1998 KR Gathering video. I guess this > means they're now shipping (KRSaintHood has its benefits). It's nothing > short of awesome! Video of all the KR's there, interviews with the builders > and pilots, lots of flybys (don't show this to the FAA), and some really > nice formation flying with Jeff Scott and Jim Faughn. We even get to sing > along with Jim in "The KR Song" (or was that "I hate sanding"?). If you > need a little inspiration (and even if you don't) you NEED this video. Info > is available on my web site, but since I know some of you are lazy, I pasted > it below... > > -------------------------------- > > The 1998 KR Gathering is now available from Omega Productions for $25.00 > from: > > Bob Vermeulen > Omega Productions > 304 Cedar St, NE > Grand Rapids, MI 49503 > > Or you can call at (616)774-3913. Bob accepts check, MC, and Visa. > > -------------------------------- > > Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama > mailto:langford@hiwaay.net > see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford > > --- > You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: rossy@teleport.com > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-17800J@telelists.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Diehl Gear brackets help. From: "Martin Mulvey" Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 00:10:37 -0700 X-Message-Number: 31 Hi Haris, Mike and all, I made my gear attach fittings using the basic "Diehl" design but using 5/8"x8" 6061-T6 stock cut to the basic dimensions. The leg attach fitting was welded to the wing mount plate at 90 degrees. The fitting was lightened as appropriate. I did not lay up the gear leg like you guys did but continued with the 6061 material for the leg. The axle and back plate though were made from 4130 steel and all has fitted fine. The gear has a 6 foot width as installed. If you can bear with me a day or so, I'll get you my angles and send them off. Have Fun!! Marty ----- Original Message ----- From: To: KR-net users group Sent: 12 September, 1999 23:26 Subject: [kr-net] Diehl Gear brackets help. > Hi Guys, > > Both Mike and I are seriously thinking of making our own brackets to mount > the Diehl legs to our planes. Could someone tell us the angle the legs make > with the spar and the angle the wheel mounting bracket makes with the > vertical line. I would guess the two angle do not add up to 90 degrees as the > legs would flex a little once the weight of the airplane is put on it. > > Any other suggestions (desigh info) will also be appriciated. We plan to use > 1/8" 4130 steel plate. > > Haris > > --- > You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: kr2smm@email.msn.com > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-17800J@telelists.com > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: FW: Volkspares - Suppliers of New & Used VW Parts & Accessories - Aviation Engines From: "Blandford, Carlton C" Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 09:08:54 +0200 X-Message-Number: 32 Hi All, check this 70HP BMW engine conversion, http://shopsite.mweb.co.za/e1000116/Aviation.html or http://volkspares.co.za under aviation engines. Carlton Blandford --- END OF DIGEST --- You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: johnbou@timberline.com To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-17800J@telelists.com