From: "KR-net users group digest" To: "kr-net digest recipients" Subject: kr-net digest: January 25, 2000 Date: Wednesday, January 26, 2000 1:22 AM KR-NET Digest2 for Tuesday, January 25, 2000. 1. Re: Wing spar sanding 2. Re: aileron travel 3. FUEL PUMP 4. Re: Wing spar sanding 5. Mile High Club 6. Re: Bob Hoover and VDubs 7. Re: Wing spar sanding 8. Re: NTSB REPORT 9. Re: [Fwd: -009's and VW aircraft engines] 10. Re: aileron travel 11. Re: FUEL PUMP 12. Re: update and dragonfly canaopy 13. Revflow Carbs 14. Corvair prop hub 15. Re: FUEL PUMP 16. one for the club 17. Control surface deflection measurements 18. Re: Revflow Carbs 19. Re: FUEL PUMP 20. Na Martha 21. Re: Fuel Pump 22. Re: update and dragonfly canaopy 23. Re: FUEL PUMP 24. Re: FUEL PUMP 25. Engine Mount Bushings 26. Re: one for the club 27. FUEL Filters 28. Folding Wings and Vacuum Pump 29. Stromberg Photos 30. Motorcycle Carbs 31. Re: one for the club 32. Jokes and such 33. Calling all builders 34. Re: FUEL PUMP 35. Re: one for the club 36. Re: [Fwd: -009's and VW aircraft engines] 37. Re: FUEL Filters 38. Re: NTSB REPORT ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Wing spar sanding From: "Mark Langford" Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 07:11:17 -0600 X-Message-Number: 1 > I would like some advice on the sanding of the spars to fit the contour of > the airfoil, what is the best way to get this contour ? > By sanding, hand plaining ,machine plaining ,.....? I used a table saw to do the tapering, and changed the angle of the blade as I tapered. I marked the spar every foot or so, divided the total number of degrees of change by number of feet, figured out how many degrees of blade tilt corresponded to one turn of the wheel, and told me wife "every time one of these marks goes by the edge of the table, I want this wheel to have gone around a half a turn", or whatever it was. The result was a spar that I didn't have to touch with a sander or planer. Just went on to foam and glass. There are a bunch of pictures of this process at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/kspars.html . The whole process of tapering (the height) and tapering (the airfoil) took maybe 2 minutes while I ran the spar thru the saw. I did spend about 15 minutes dividing number of degrees per turn by number of feet, and making sure that I knew what was going to get cut, but you can't beat this method for speed or accuracy of the final cuts. Having said this, you better be pretty sure of your work, and take into consideration where the top of the blade is going as the angle changes. Perhaps slicing up a 2x8 would be good practive to see if you've got the methodology down right. Maybe a planer or sander would be safer in this regard, but it's just as easy to take out a nick with a sander or planer, I guess. Note that there are several places on my web site where there are a zillion spring clamps. Most of the time these are holding the spar cap to an aluminum angle to keep them straight, not squeezing all the glue out of the joint. In some places there are Jorgensen clamps shown holding spar caps together while "scabbing", but they are lightly tightened, just enough to make sure there's contact, and to squeeze out the enormous amount of T-88 that I applied to each side to "soak" into the wood a few minutes before joining the two pieces. Having said this, I HAVE presoaked two pieces of wood, clamped the crap out of them, let them cure, and broke them days later, and the joint failed elsewhere. When the epoxy is 10 times stronger than the wood it doesn't take much epoxy to get the job done, especially when there is no possiblitiy of voids. I'm not saying you should over clamp T-88 joints (I know you're not supposed to), but I wouldn't throw away my spars if I'd already built them that way. Why do I say that? Well it just so happens that I have an extra set of spars that I built, and didn't think that I had put enough epoxy between the "scabbed" spar caps, because I didn't have any "squeeze-out" in several places. After my new ones were built (they were lighter anyway because of a little design change) I started wondering how strong the old ones were, and tested them to failure. The glue joint isn't where the caps separated... Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama mailto:langford@hiwaay.net see KR2S N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: aileron travel From: larry flesner Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 06:01:35 -0600 X-Message-Number: 2 At 11:24 PM 1/24/00 -0000, you wrote: >Larry, Don't know if you got my previous mail, it's not showing on my >screen- The critical dimension to get your aileron range ,is the distance >from the hinge centre line to the pin centre , this should be 2.1/2". This >wasn't shown on my drawings , All the >best, Mac Wood ---- Original Message ----- >=========================================================================== ======= Mac, I assume you are talking about the aileron hinge line to aileron pushrod attach point. My plans are dated 5/83. Check out page 88, drawing #71, "aileron & control horn assembly". That drawing should give the correct distance. I seem to recall having trouble getting my +20,-10 and ended up changing the arm length (read drill another hole closer to the pivot ) on the bellcrank or somewhere. I may have shortened the length of the dimension we are discussing here. When you stretch a project out ten years it almost seems like someone else built it !!!! Larry Flesner ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: FUEL PUMP From: "Seifert, Richard E" Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 07:38:39 -0800 X-Message-Number: 3 Ken, Its my opinion that many KR builders over complicate their planes in the name of safety and end up with an unsafe condition. Start with the minimum required components in your fuel system, (fuel valve and gascolator). Add to that only when you find it necessary. Prior to flight testing you must make a fuel flow check in both take off and landing configurations, (tail level & tail down). You must have a fuel flow at least three times your maximum fuel usage. On a VW powered aircraft you will need at least 14 gallons per hour flow. If you fail to get that flow check your tank vent to verify it isn't restricting your flow. Adding a boost pump only improves your flow while it functions, and depending on how its plumbed, may even stop the flow when it fails. It may also screw up your mixture depending on your carburetor type. My KR-2 uses a float bowel carburetor so I checked the fuel flow by removing the float bowel and timing how long it took to fill a gallon can. This method measured the flow through all the components including the carburetor needle and seat. It is probable that the needle and seat is the major restriction. Even this can be corrected by installing a "Gross" high flow needle and seat. Remember KISS usually equates to SAFE. Subject: Re: Fuel Pump From: Kenneth L Wiltrout Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 08:06:30 -0500 X-Message-Number: 1 Netters, How many of you guys have a booster pump in line as well? All I have is a 13 gallon header tank and was wondering if there was any reason to add one. Also is it necessary to add a fuel filter since the gascolator has a very fine mesh screen in it? Thanks, Kenny ________________________________________________________________ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Wing spar sanding From: larry flesner Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 06:14:12 -0600 X-Message-Number: 4 At 08:45 AM 1/24/00 +0200, you wrote: >Hello KR worshipers > >I would like some advice on the sanding of the spars to fit the contour of >the airfoil, what is the best way to get this contour ? >By sanding, hand plaining ,machine plaining ,.....? > >Danny ============================================================================ ==== Danny, I cut the top rear center spar cap to shape before installing in fuselage with my radial arm saw. The rest of the top spar caps I used a "surform" hand tool. After I had my ply ribs in place, I used a straight edge resting on top of ribs and marked a pencil line on the spar ( both sides ). I started to shape them with a power sander but felt like I didn't have the control I wanted so I switched to the hand tool. It did not take long at all with the hand tool and the comfort level was much better. Just take off the material down to the line. Larry Flesner ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Mile High Club From: KR2616TJ@aol.com Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 07:54:22 EST X-Message-Number: 5 Sorry guys, but I couldn't resist:-) Fifteen minutes into the flight from New York to Phoenix, the captain announced, "Ladies and gentlemen, one of our engines has failed. There is nothing to worry about. Our flight will take an hour longer than scheduled, but we still have three engines left." Thirty minutes later the captain announced, "One more engine has failed and the flight will take an additional two hours. But don't worry . . .we can fly just fine on two engines." An hour later the captain announced, "One more engine has failed and our arrival will be delayed another hour. But don't worry... we still have one engine left." Sherry, a young blonde passenger turned to the man in the next seat and sighed, ......."If we lose one more engine, we'll be up here all day!" Dana Overall 2000 KR Gathering host Richmond, KY mailto:kr2616tj@aol.com http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/hangar/7085/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Bob Hoover and VDubs From: Donald Reid Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 08:47:37 -0500 X-Message-Number: 6 Michael Taglieri wrote: > > >Here's a little forward from the VW group from Bob Hoover > Is this the same Bob Hoover who's the famous aerobatic pilot? I didn't > know he was a homebuilder at all, let alone an expert on VW engines. The famous Bob Hoover is R.A. Hoover. The one who wrote the thesis on VW's was R.S. Hoover. -- Don Reid Bumpass, Va. mailto:donreid@erols.com KR2XL at http://www.erols.com/donreid/kr_page.htm Ultralights at http://www.erols.com/donreid/usua250.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Wing spar sanding From: Donald Reid Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 08:55:41 -0500 X-Message-Number: 7 Livingstone, Danny (DJ) wrote: > I would like some advice on the sanding of the spars to fit the contour of > the airfoil, what is the best way to get this contour ? > By sanding, hand plaining ,machine plaining ,.....? I used a straight edge to mark the final line on the narrow face, then a plane to rough to the line, then a light rasp, then a long sanding block with very coarse paper. I tried a belt sander but I was not happy with it. I could remove more material, faster and easier with the plane. -- Don Reid Bumpass, Va. mailto:donreid@erols.com KR2XL at http://www.erols.com/donreid/kr_page.htm Ultralights at http://www.erols.com/donreid/usua250.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: NTSB REPORT From: Donald Reid Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 08:52:05 -0500 X-Message-Number: 8 > I would be very interested in seeing the actual breakdown of causal factors > identified by the NTSB which resulted in aircraft crashes. > > I would bet that pilot error would dominate the list. In the total list of KR accidents, the major initiating event was fuel related. It was a factor on the order of 25 percent of all accidents and incidents. Pilot reaction to the fuel problem then led to other stuff. The moral of that story is to test the fuel system every possible way that you can, and then make sure that you always have enough. -- Don Reid Bumpass, Va. mailto:donreid@erols.com KR2XL at http://www.erols.com/donreid/kr_page.htm Ultralights at http://www.erols.com/donreid/usua250.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: [Fwd: -009's and VW aircraft engines] From: Horn2004@aol.com Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 10:52:48 EST X-Message-Number: 9 In a message dated 1/25/00 4:06:23 AM, miket_nyc@juno.com writes: <> No. This is Bob Hoover the VW Guru who used to have a terrific VW engine web site, but pulled it off after way too many people felt he wasn't as smart as they were, and sent him nasty e-mails stating that fact. There were some other mitigating factors which also prompted the sites demise. If you ever had seen his site you would know that it was a big loss of information when he brought his site down. Steve Horn horn2004@aol.com Dallas, TX ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: aileron travel From: Mike Mims Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 08:32:51 -0800 (PST) X-Message-Number: 10 You guys have completely lost me on this one. What's wrong with the amount of travel specified in the plans? If your not getting the travel specified in the plans then FIX it! This reminds me of the pilot sitting at the end of the runway doing a run-up and the engine is backfiring and belching smoke. He says to himself "maybe it will clear up on take off". Wrong! Just go back and FIX it. The guy in this story died by the way, engine quit at 200' AGl and he stall-spun it into the ground. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Ken Jordan > To: KR-net users group > Sent: Monday, January 24, 2000 7:29 PM > Subject: [kr-net] Re: aileron travel > > > > Have you considered using trigonometry to > calculate the correct distance up/down, given the angles and average width of the elevator? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: FUEL PUMP From: "Timothy Bellville" Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 14:23:36 -0500 X-Message-Number: 11 Has Anyone ever used motorcycle carbs directly off the cylinder heads? If so what kind? and what were the results. I believe that this would solve a few problems that I am having, one being lack of carb heat , but mainly due to lack of space available. If anyone has any specs. on this type of installation I would greatly appreciate it. Tim ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: update and dragonfly canaopy From: FRED SMITH Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 13:40:24 -0600 X-Message-Number: 12 have gear attached and top of wings glassed working on vert stab. will be needing a dragonfly canopy. Wish i had bought when everyone else did. Is there anyone putting another order together. Does anyone have one for sale that they don't need. I am going into archives to find where the last were ordered. Will not order until I get feedback on any for sell on net. thanks. Fred Smith ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Revflow Carbs From: Mike Mims Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 13:45:37 -0800 (PST) X-Message-Number: 13 I got a letter from Revmaster today and they said the larger Revflow carb can and has been used on larger engines (O-200 , O-290). The price is $280. This is a decent looking carb (I used to own one but sold it) and is ready to mount for aircraft use (mixture control installed, works inverted, etc.) I am planning on using one because I have heard good reports from people that use them. The price is right (about $650 less than an Ellison) and its a VERY simple carb! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Corvair prop hub From: David Mullins Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 17:55:40 -0500 X-Message-Number: 14 KRNetters, For those using a Corvair engine, My prop hubs are almost complete. Rich Parker was kind enough to post my pictures on the web so that you guys could look at them. The address is: http://www.pneutronics.com/dave/ The hubs were made by: Dan Woodward Night Hawke Experimental Aircraft 1217 Suncook Valley Hwy. Epsom. New Hampshire 03234 (603) 798-3136 These are his first hubs for a corvair so they are taking a little longer to complete. Afterwards he will be offering these for sale. They are made from a billet of 6061-T651. The starter is from a 1985 Subaru. The Flywheel/ring gear is a Subaru mounted on a custom aluminum flywheel which is bolted directly to the prop hub. Dan makes direct drive hubs for VWs and Subarus. He also makes a redrive unit that can be mated to a VW size engine thru a small block Chevy and he even put one on a turbine powered gyrocopter. If you want the full size pics Email me privately and I will send them to you. Dave Mullins Nashua, New Hampshire Mailto:dmullins@ici.net ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: FUEL PUMP From: Kenneth L Wiltrout Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 18:28:17 -0500 X-Message-Number: 15 Thanks for the advice guys, Think I'll try going with an inline filter first and nix the fuel pump. I' m using the new Rev-Flow from the boys at Revmaster. I think I read somewhere that with the Rev-Flow you have to be careful not to damage the fuel head with a pump that puts out to much preassure? By the way when I test ran the 2100 this summer I noticed that gas drips out of the carb when I shut it down. Does anyone else use this carb and how does yours act ? It seems ok when running though. .Kenny ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: one for the club From: WA7YXF@aol.com Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 19:32:25 EST X-Message-Number: 16 Subject: Plane Crash From the News Wires: Poland's worst air disaster occurred today, when a two-seat light plane, a Cessna Model 152, crashed into a cemetery early this afternoon in central Poland. Polish search and rescue workers have recovered 826 bodies so far, and expect that number to climb as digging continues into the night. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Control surface deflection measurements From: Bryce Guenther Date: 25 Jan 00 16:40:58 PST X-Message-Number: 17 Aeronautical Design Engineers use a simple aid 1 inch radius with 1 degr= ee of deflection equals 0.017 inch of total travel. Thus a 7 inch chord aileron inboard end deflected 20 degrees equals 7 x 20 x 0.017 =3D 2.48 inch trailing edge travel.Its a K>I>S>S> formula. ____________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webm= ail.netscape.com. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Revflow Carbs From: "BillStarrs" Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 18:54:48 -0700 X-Message-Number: 18 I have one and it is good. It takes a little getting use to. The mixture control is very sensitive. A little too much and it floods . A little too lean and it quits. The Field elevation here is 5,000 ft. that could explain the sensitivity Bill Starrs Prescott, AZ -----Original Message----- From: Mike Mims To: KR-net users group Date: Tuesday, January 25, 2000 4:58 PM Subject: [kr-net] Revflow Carbs >I got a letter from Revmaster today and they said the >larger Revflow carb can and has been used on larger >engines (O-200 , O-290). The price is $280. This is a >decent looking carb (I used to own one but sold it) >and is ready to mount for aircraft use (mixture >control installed, works inverted, etc.) I am planning >on using one because I have heard good reports from >people that use them. The price is right (about $650 >less than an Ellison) and its a VERY simple carb! >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. >http://im.yahoo.com > >--- >You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: bstarrs@cybertrails.com >To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-103503G@telelists.com > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: FUEL PUMP From: "BillStarrs" Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 18:59:44 -0700 X-Message-Number: 19 I looked at a lot of Motorcycle carbs. None of them were satisfactory an none had mixture control. Revmaster seems to have the best deal. -----Original Message----- From: Timothy Bellville To: KR-net users group Date: Tuesday, January 25, 2000 3:19 PM Subject: [kr-net] Re: FUEL PUMP > >Has Anyone ever used motorcycle carbs directly off the cylinder heads? If so >what kind? and what were the results. >I believe that this would solve a few problems that I am having, one being >lack of carb heat , but mainly due to lack of space available. >If anyone has any specs. on this type of installation I would greatly >appreciate it. >Tim > > >--- >You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: bstarrs@cybertrails.com >To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-103503G@telelists.com > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Na Martha From: "fuller" Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 17:58:27 -0700 X-Message-Number: 20 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01BF675D.C8475240 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Na Martha would have bought a new refrigerator, backed in to it with her = car, hired slave labor to gut it out, painted with a nice fusha = fleckstone then after placing her new paint/epoxy armwa in service would = call it a GOOD THING! ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01BF675D.C8475240 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Na Martha would have bought a new = refrigerator,=20 backed in to it with her car, hired slave labor to gut it out, painted = with a=20 nice fusha fleckstone then after placing her new paint/epoxy armwa in = service=20 would call it a GOOD THING!
------=_NextPart_000_0015_01BF675D.C8475240-- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Fuel Pump From: GARYKR2@cs.com Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 20:04:42 EST X-Message-Number: 21 The only pump I have is to transfer fuel from the wings to the header. I have not had any fuel flow problems, no vapor lock in the summer either. Gary Hinkle Middletown, Pa. garykr2@cs.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: update and dragonfly canaopy From: "The LeTempt Family" Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 19:10:07 -0600 X-Message-Number: 22 SlipStream Industries now owns the Dragonfly. Mike Puhl is the owner and he can be reached at FlyGenesis@aol.com or phone (920)787-5886 or write SlipStream Industries, W8407 Cottonville Drive, Wautoma, WI 54982. Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: FRED SMITH To: KR-net users group Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2000 1:40 PM Subject: [kr-net] Re: update and dragonfly canaopy > have gear attached and top of wings glassed working on vert stab. will be needing a dragonfly canopy. > Wish i had bought when everyone else did. Is there anyone putting another order together. Does anyone > have one for sale that they don't need. I am going into archives to find where the last were ordered. > Will not order until I get feedback on any for sell on net. thanks. Fred Smith > > > --- > You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: texasquadj@prodigy.net > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-166831R@telelists.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: FUEL PUMP From: DClarke351@aol.com Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 20:15:22 EST X-Message-Number: 23 When you are using the Revflow Carb you need to shut the fuel valve off first. This will keep the carb from dripping and if you leave it on long enough, it will drain the tank! Also it will make it hard to start. Don Clarke ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: FUEL PUMP From: Mike Mims Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 17:28:54 -0800 X-Message-Number: 24 Kenneth L Wiltrout wrote: > > By the way when I test ran the 2100 this summer I noticed that gas drips > out of the carb when I shut it down. Does anyone else use this carb and > how does yours act ? It seems ok when running though. .Kenny If your mixture control is set so that it shuts completely off this will minimize this but it is normal. You are supposed to turn the fuel off when you shut down. Kinda like the old POSA carbs. -- zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Micheal Mims Sanding and Filling AGAIN! :o( http://www.fortunecity.com/marina/anchor/270/ mirror @ http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/4136/ http://members.home.com/mikemims/ Aliso Viejo CA ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Engine Mount Bushings From: GARYKR2@cs.com Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 20:48:55 EST X-Message-Number: 25 Does anybody know what rubber bushings were used with the "Volks Power" accessory case? Gary Hinkle Middletown, Pa. garykr2@cs.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: one for the club From: Mike Mims Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 18:05:26 -0800 X-Message-Number: 26 OK guys its not Friday and someone is gonna get their shorts in a wad with the jokes! I posted info about the Revflow earlier and I just wanted to pass along that it is a 42 mm carb. -- zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Micheal Mims Sanding and Filling AGAIN! :o( http://www.fortunecity.com/marina/anchor/270/ mirror @ http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/4136/ http://members.home.com/mikemims/ Aliso Viejo CA ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: FUEL Filters From: jscott.pilot@juno.com Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 19:01:52 -0700 X-Message-Number: 27 On Tue, 25 Jan 2000 18:28:17 -0500 Kenneth L Wiltrout writes: > Thanks for the advice guys, Think I'll try going with an inline filter > first and nix the fuel pump. I' m using the new Rev-Flow from the boys at > Revmaster. I think I read somewhere that with the Rev-Flow you have to be > careful not to damage the fuel head with a pump that puts out to much > pressure? Just out of curiosity, is there some reason why folks seem to want to use the in line fuel filters rather than a standard old mount on the firewall gascolator? The gascolator can (and should) be drained before every flight, has a large capacity for holding the gunk that would plug a filter and can hold alot of water that may have creeped into your fuel system from a loose cap or faulty cap seal as opposed to having it block off your filter or go through it to the carb. I can see using an in line element filter for finer filtration after the gascolator if needed for specific types of carburators, but not in place of it. Jeff Scott - Los Alamos, NM mailto:jscott.pilot@juno.com See N1213w construction and first flight at http://www.thuntek.net/~jeb/krjeff.htm ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Folding Wings and Vacuum Pump From: Mike Mims Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 18:14:51 -0800 X-Message-Number: 28 I uploaded some pictures as well as contact information for the folding wing kit to: http://www.fortunecity.com/marina/anchor/270/rwmoore/rwmoore.htm check it out. -- zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Micheal Mims Sanding and Filling AGAIN! :o( http://www.fortunecity.com/marina/anchor/270/ mirror @ http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/4136/ http://members.home.com/mikemims/ Aliso Viejo CA ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Stromberg Photos From: Mike Mims Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 18:36:22 -0800 X-Message-Number: 29 Here are some photos of the Stromberg carbs on Kobus de Wet's KR. http://members.home.net/mikemims/stromberg.htm -- zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Micheal Mims Sanding and Filling AGAIN! :o( http://www.fortunecity.com/marina/anchor/270/ mirror @ http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/4136/ http://members.home.com/mikemims/ Aliso Viejo CA ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Motorcycle Carbs From: RFG842@aol.com Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 22:15:18 EST X-Message-Number: 30 Tim Irv Furman, Kmarine@gis.net, is useing a Mikuni HRS 42 carb on his VW which I believe is mounted in a WW1 replica. He said he has spent a year perfecting the installation. This carb is available only through Harley Davidson dealers and sells here for 368.95. Irv mounts the carb on top of the engine and it uses a choke and is a slide type carb. Irv is an attorney for the Vets Adms in Maryland and for $5.00 (reproduction costs) will send four pages of instructions plus pictures, of his installation. I sent for them and while I wish they were more explicit, I'm probably pretty dense about these. I'm still trying to solve the carb problem for my Type 4. I just believe there must be a better and newer carb than a Zenith that was used on the Model A Ford and is still being used on tractors. And one that doesn't cost some 900.00 like the Ellison. I understand that you can pick up some 200 rpm by keeping the intake manifold short and mounting the carb on top but I still wonder about gas leaks on top of a hot engine. Got to be a solution! Bob ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: one for the club From: "George Majewski" Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 22:32:46 -0500 X-Message-Number: 31 >OK guys its not Friday and someone is gonna get their shorts in a wad >with the jokes! Thank you Mike George Majewski - The Polack. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Jokes and such From: HAshraf@aol.com Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 22:44:04 EST X-Message-Number: 32 Ok guys read twice before posting what you write about the recent jokes (I did not get the Martha's one). Lets make this a good exercise in showing restraint. Net Granny for the month Haris ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Calling all builders From: SClay10106@aol.com Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 23:55:13 EST X-Message-Number: 33 Any builders out there wanna complete a Kr and be paid to do it? email me direct ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: FUEL PUMP From: "Cary Honeywell" Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 00:00:13 -0500 X-Message-Number: 34 My carb did the same thing until I started to cut the fuel instead of leaning the fuel flow. When the engine starts to quit, I pull out the mixture and down she goes. The same sort of thing happens on startup as well. I push in the mixture, then I open the fuel valve. I wait about 10 seconds then I crank on the starter. Comes up really nice. By the way, if you use the ram-air tube on that carb, and your tail sits low to the ground, put a cork in the open end when you aren't going to fly it until next time. If you get a rain storm you may find that the lower manifold, just behind the carb, fills up with water. Makes it kinda hard to start that way. I have taken to picking up the tail as high as I can without dinging the prop. Once I'm satisfied that any H2O is purged, I am ready to go. (at least in my case, to taxi.) - Cary - -Cary Honeywell - Ottawa Ontario Canada caryh@home.com ve3ev@rac.ca Home page http://24.112.208.98/ KR2 area http://24.112.208.98/kr2/kr2.shtml -----Original Message----- From: Kenneth L Wiltrout To: KR-net users group Cc: kr-net@telelists.com Date: Tuesday, January 25, 2000 8:14 PM Subject: [kr-net] Re: FUEL PUMP >Thanks for the advice guys, Think I'll try going with an inline filter >first and nix the fuel pump. I' m using the new Rev-Flow from the boys at >Revmaster. I think I read somewhere that with the Rev-Flow you have to be >careful not to damage the fuel head with a pump that puts out to much >preassure? >By the way when I test ran the 2100 this summer I noticed that gas drips >out of the carb when I shut it down. Does anyone else use this carb and >how does yours act ? It seems ok when running though. .Kenny >________________________________________________________________ >YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! >Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! >Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: >http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. > >--- >You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: caryh@home.com >To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-62695J@telelists.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: one for the club From: "w.g. kirkland" Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 00:23:09 -0500 X-Message-Number: 35 Please George ; have some respect for the English language. The proper term is "Get their testicles in a termoil" W.G. KIRKLAND kirkland@vianet.on.ca ---------- > From: George Majewski > To: KR-net users group > Subject: [kr-net] Re: one for the club > Date: Tuesday, January 25, 2000 10:32 PM > > > > >OK guys its not Friday and someone is gonna get their shorts in a wad > >with the jokes! > > > Thank you Mike > > George Majewski - The Polack. > > > > --- > You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: kirkland@vianet.on.ca > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-39277K@telelists.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: [Fwd: -009's and VW aircraft engines] From: "Ross R. Youngblood" Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 00:02:06 +0000 X-Message-Number: 36 No it is a DIFFERENT Bob Hoover. He used to have a VW website but took it off cause people would send flaming emails to his site. He has a weath of information on VW's. Search the Web for Bob Hoovers Sermons, perhaps they have returned the information to the web. Helped me find TDC and time my VW. -- Ross Michael Taglieri wrote: > >Here's a little forward from the VW group from Bob Hoover that may > >answer some of the recent questions on the 009 distributer, total > >advance, etc. > > Is this the same Bob Hoover who's the famous aerobatic pilot? I didn't > know he was a homebuilder at all, let alone an expert on VW engines. > > Mike Taglieri > > ________________________________________________________________ > YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! > Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! > Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. > > --- > You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: rossy@teleport.com > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-17523X@telelists.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: FUEL Filters From: "Ross R. Youngblood" Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 00:23:04 +0000 X-Message-Number: 37 In the case of the Ellison, the gascollator is not a fine enough mesh screen. So I grabbed a couple of see through filters for the wing tanks, and an automotive flow through filter for the header, these then feed the gascolator. The Ellison has an additional fine mesh screen at the carb inlet, but they say if you get stuff in it... you have problems upstream with dirty fuel, it's just a last chance screen to keep the carb from getting damaged. -- Ross jscott.pilot@juno.com wrote: > On Tue, 25 Jan 2000 18:28:17 -0500 Kenneth L Wiltrout > writes: > > Thanks for the advice guys, Think I'll try going with an inline filter > > first and nix the fuel pump. I' m using the new Rev-Flow from the boys > at > > Revmaster. I think I read somewhere that with the Rev-Flow you have to > be > > careful not to damage the fuel head with a pump that puts out to much > > pressure? > > Just out of curiosity, is there some reason why folks seem to want to use > the in line fuel filters rather than a standard old mount on the firewall > gascolator? > > The gascolator can (and should) be drained before every flight, has a > large capacity for holding the gunk that would plug a filter and can hold > alot of water that may have creeped into your fuel system from a loose > cap or faulty cap seal as opposed to having it block off your filter or > go through it to the carb. > > I can see using an in line element filter for finer filtration after the > gascolator if needed for specific types of carburators, but not in place > of it. > > Jeff Scott - Los Alamos, NM > mailto:jscott.pilot@juno.com > See N1213w construction and first flight at > http://www.thuntek.net/~jeb/krjeff.htm > > --- > You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: rossy@teleport.com > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-17523X@telelists.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: NTSB REPORT From: Michael Taglieri Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 03:15:04 -0500 X-Message-Number: 38 Speaking of NTSB reports, the latest edition of Aviation Safety has an article on yet another fatal design defect in the Piper Tomahawk. Apparently the mechanism of the control wheel can cause the elevator to lock in the full-up position under certain conditions if the wheel is pulled all the way back during a stall. Two Service Bulletins were issued in the past for this problem but it apparently is not solved, and last November the plane killed two more people: a student pilot and a designated examiner during the applicant's test for his private pilot license. As in the past, the FAA does not admit any problems and no AD's have been issued. As anyone knows who reads Aviation Safety, the Tomahawk has an astoundingly bad safety record, such that the company's chief engineering test pilot once recommended that Piper buy all of them back and destroy them. The FAA has for years refused to look into other problems of this plane, and the Aviation Safety article suggests that "the investigations have become politicized to the point where useful safety data is being compromised." I know there are Tomahawk owners on this list who have often defended its virtues. There may be some, but I hope you never try any stalls or spins in one. Mike Taglieri ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. --- END OF DIGEST --- You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: johnbou@ipinc.net To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-110995W@telelists.com