From: "KR-net users group digest" To: "kr-net digest recipients" Subject: kr-net digest: February 24, 2000 Date: Friday, February 25, 2000 12:06 AM KR-NET Digest2 for Thursday, February 24, 2000. 1. Re: battery size? 2. T88 or West system 3. Re: lesson learned 4. Re: T88 or West system 5. Poly Fiber ...was T88 or West system 6. Re: battery size? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: battery size? From: "Leonardo" Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 09:25:30 -0300 X-Message-Number: 1 hello there !! here in brazil planes like the kr and others people use a jetsky 16 ah battery it works just fine if you dont have much eletrics. Leo, Brazil. KR2S -----Mensagem original----- De: Cary Honeywell Para: KR-net users group Data: Quarta-feira, 23 de Fevereiro de 2000 19:52 Assunto: [kr-net] Re: battery size? >I'm using a 12 volt 18ah Gel Cell battery. Works just fine. > >- Cary - > > -Cary Honeywell - >Ottawa Ontario Canada >caryh@home.com >ve3ev@rac.ca >Home page http://24.112.208.98/ >KR2 area http://24.112.208.98/kr2/kr2.shtml >-----Original Message----- >From: Mark Langford >To: KR-net users group >Date: Tuesday, February 22, 2000 9:58 AM >Subject: [kr-net] battery size? > > >>BatteryHeads, >> >>I'd like to hear from anybody flying with a tiny battery and getting away >>with it. Richard Mole is using an 8Ah in his 2.2L JPX powered Jodel, and >>I've even heard of folks using a motorcycle or lawn tractor battery in a >KR. >>I decided to go with a 16Ah, rather than the more common 25 or 35. It >>weighs 13.5 pounds, rather than the more usual 21 or 27. There are more >>details of my battery research (and twisted logic) at >>http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/kmarkl.html#update . Any comments are >>welcome... >> >>Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama >>mailto:langford@hiwaay.net >>see KR2S N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford >> >> >> >>--- >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: T88 or West system From: "Gaylon Fuller" Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 11:52:42 -0800 X-Message-Number: 2 I'm getting ready for my first epoxy order and read someone talking about using the west system for the boat. Is this the same epoxy as for layups? I have heard about the west system being the best as far as sanding goes. I have even heard of guys using it for everything including structual. Am I missing something? Or is it nessisary to buy T88 for the wood, Aeropoxy for the glass, and featherfill for the finish? Gaylon Fuller KR builder (were is my sticky stuff) Artesia NM ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: lesson learned From: "Edwin Blocher" Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 14:17:12 -0600 X-Message-Number: 3 We have had some good, warm weather for a couple of days. It's 80+ in my shop today and should be for a few more. After 2 days it is sanding a lot better. I'm useing Aeropoxy and will mix the 2nd and hopefully last coat thicker. I was thinking Smooth Prime, not for filling, but for a final finish just prior to painying. Ed Ed Blocher Moody, AL mailto: kr-n899eb@mindspring.com ----- Original Message ----- From: larry flesner To: KR-net users group Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2000 8:54 AM Subject: [kr-net] Re: lesson learned > At 06:59 PM 2/22/00 -0600, you wrote: > > Too late I found out that micro doesn't sand like I thought it would > >after filling staple holes. Ed Blocher > >Moody, AL > >mailto: kr-n899eb@mindspring.com > ============================================================================ > === > > Ed, > > What type of resin are you using and how "runny" was your micro mix? > I have used a considerable amount of "micro" on my project and find > that it sands just fine when the resin is cured. I used epoxy > resin and enough micro to give the consistancy of firm peanut > butter. I've also used the "Super Fil" and I think I like a good > micro mix better. I think the Micro applies better. I use 80 or > 100 grit paper for the first sanding of micro and have never > had a problem with it filling the grit IF the resin is cured. > If the micro is too resin rich you have two problems. It's > heavy and it doesn't sand for s&%# !!! I used the rubber squeege > from Wicks and tried not to over-fill on any one application but > did a couple sand and fill cycles to get the fill necessary. > I hope this doesn't start a week long debate of which is better. > It's just my opinion. Every builder needs to try some of each > to see which one they prefer. "Your results may differ"!!!! > > I've spoken with Jerome Hedinger (sp), the manager at Wicks, and > he thinks you can get a fill that's just as light with micro > as with the Super Fil. From my experience, I tend to agree > with him. After all, what is Super Fil but epoxy and micro > with a super mix job. > > Larry Flesner > KR builder, Tripacer driver, skydiver hauler > > > > > > > > > --- > You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: kr-n899eb@mindspring.com > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-167983L@telelists.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: T88 or West system From: Mike Mims Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 18:09:01 -0800 X-Message-Number: 4 Gaylon Fuller wrote: > > I'm getting ready for my first epoxy order and read someone talking about > using the west system for the boat. Is this the same epoxy as for layups? > I have heard about the west system being the best as far as sanding goes. > I have even heard of guys using it for everything including structual. Am > I missing something? Or is it nessisary to buy T88 for the wood, Aeropoxy > for the glass, and featherfill for the finish? > West system has been used for everything but I feel you will be happier using T88 for gluing your wood parts. West is also used on fiberglass lay-ups as well as mixing micro. Featherfill is a spray on primer/surfacer/filler. It would be kinda tough to spry west in this manor! :o) There are other options instead of featherfill when you get to that point. Personally I feel West cures to fast for big lay-ups but many have used it. I always recommend EZ-Poxy (Safe-T-Poxy) because it is so nice to work with, cures at a good rate and cures ROCK hard. Some like vynlester (sp?) some like DOW, some like Aeropoxy. I think you can use just about any resin system you want on the KR as the composite parts are not really structural say like in a Long-EZ. So its up to you. -- zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Micheal Mims Sanding and Filling AGAIN! :o( http://www.fortunecity.com/marina/anchor/270/ mirror @ http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/4136/ http://members.home.com/mikemims/ Aliso Viejo CA ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Poly Fiber ...was T88 or West system From: KR2616TJ@aol.com Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 18:25:23 EST X-Message-Number: 5 In a message dated 2/24/00 2:53:57 PM Eastern Standard Time, fuller@pvtnetworks.net writes: << and featherfill for the finish? >> If you've been around any length of time.........tune me out right now:-). John at Poly Fiber has been wonderful in supplying me with product to do seminars on Smooth Prime and Super Fil. I do it only because I personally haven't found anything better out there to fill spots like Ed was trying with the micro, than Super Fil. I have never clogged paper, the stuff absolutely turns to dust when you sand it. When you get to the point of applying primer, Smooth Prime now has it's own UV protection in it. Roll the stuff on, sand it and you have a finish ready for paint. No pin holes. I just gave an RV friend of mine some of the old non UV Smooth Prime I had left over. I got a phone call last night from him. He was beside himself how much better it worked than feather fill. I also sent over some Super Fil. He got the same results with it also. My own opinion here guys, if you use Super Fil once.......you will never, ever use micro again for the same kind of application. If there is enough interest, I'll go through the process again. Dana Overall 2000 KR Gathering host Richmond, KY mailto:kr2616tj@aol.com http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/hangar/7085/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: battery size? From: Michael Taglieri Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 00:19:09 -0500 X-Message-Number: 6 > I am not sure that I'm being of any help at all here, but have any of you >heard of or used a gel-cell battery? They use them for car adio >competetions. I'm not sure what the amps are on the batteries, but they >have a longer charge life. I'm sure that they push enough amps since they >are use to push these big stereo systems. Yuasa, the biggest name in motorcycle batteries, also makes gel cells in several sizes. I'm sure one of their larger gel motorcycle batteries would be adequate for KR use. Mike Taglieri ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. --- END OF DIGEST --- You are currently subscribed to kr-net as: johnbou@ipinc.net To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-kr-net-110995W@telelists.com