From: To: Subject: krnet Digest 8 Apr 2000 12:10:34 -0000 Issue 8 Date: Saturday, April 08, 2000 4:11 AM krnet Digest 8 Apr 2000 12:10:34 -0000 Issue 8 Topics (messages 136 through 152): Re: Circuit breakers on Ebay 136 by: Donald Reid 137 by: Richard Parker Prop Hub? 138 by: USAUS.aol.com 142 by: Alessandro Pecorara planes for sale (s.a) 139 by: dene collett Fuel pump dilemma 140 by: Alessandro Pecorara 143 by: Mike Mims 144 by: Joe Beyer 145 by: RONALD.FREIBERGER 152 by: Richard Parker Sun & Fun 141 by: Tom Crawford EAA Fly-Ins 146 by: saunders 147 by: GARYKR2.cs.com Video Tape 148 by: Mark Jones hypothetical question... 149 by: Mark Langford 151 by: Michael Taglieri Prop Prep 150 by: Cary Honeywell Administrivia: To subscribe to the digest, e-mail: To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail: To post to the list, e-mail: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2000 08:28:42 -0400 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: Donald Reid Subject: Re: KR> Circuit breakers on Ebay Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.20000406082513.00951e30@pop.erols.com> --=====================_565529==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed > >Saw these for sale on Ebay > >under avionics > >http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=301174891 > > >====================================================================== > >Don't get too excited. Wick's has circuit breakers with push button >reset for 1/3 the cost of the current bid !!! Remember we're building >expermintal and you don't have to pay the big mark-up that goes with >certified aircraft parts. Know what you're buying and shop around.......... After I bought my breakers from Aircraft Spruce, I found the identical ones in a local electronics store. Your Radio Shack will not have any, but a store that specializes in high quality, diverse electronics probably will. Don Reid mailto:donreid@erols.com Bumpass, Va KR2XL at http://www.erols.com/donreid/kr_page.htm USUA Club 250 at http://www.erols.com/donreid/usua250.html --=====================_565529==_.ALT-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2000 06:33:56 PDT To: donreid@erols.com, krnet@mailinglists.org From: "Richard Parker" Subject: Re: KR> Circuit breakers on Ebay Message-ID: <20000406133356.80932.qmail@hotmail.com> You can also check out newark.com If you use your business address usually the rep will send some samples out free of charge. Rich Parker >From: Donald Reid >To: krnet@mailinglists.org >Subject: Re: KR> Circuit breakers on Ebay >Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2000 08:28:42 -0400 > > >> >Saw these for sale on Ebay >> >under avionics >> >http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=301174891 >> > >>====================================================================== >> >>Don't get too excited. Wick's has circuit breakers with push button >>reset for 1/3 the cost of the current bid !!! Remember we're building >>expermintal and you don't have to pay the big mark-up that goes with >>certified aircraft parts. Know what you're buying and shop >>around.......... > >After I bought my breakers from Aircraft Spruce, I found the identical ones >in a local electronics store. Your Radio Shack will not have any, but a >store that specializes in high quality, diverse electronics probably will. > >Don Reid mailto:donreid@erols.com >Bumpass, Va > >KR2XL at http://www.erols.com/donreid/kr_page.htm >USUA Club 250 at http://www.erols.com/donreid/usua250.html ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 21:46:35 EDT To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: USAUS@aol.com Subject: Prop Hub? Message-ID: <2b.401dd2c.261e97fb@aol.com> Does anyone know if an SAE#1 Flange is equivalent to a Great Pains force one prop hub ? Scott ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2000 14:29:12 +0200 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: Alessandro Pecorara Subject: Re: KR> Prop Hub? Message-ID: <38EDD497.2695139A@telecomitalia.it> JUST A TEST... USAUS@aol.com wrote: > Does anyone know if an SAE#1 Flange is equivalent to a Great Pains force one > prop hub ? > > Scott > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 21:43:00 +0200 To: "krnet" From: "dene collett" Subject: planes for sale (s.a) Message-ID: <000101bf9f83$38a17220$60b416c4@denec> Hi gang This being Friday I Have been asked to advertise the followinf two planes for sale on KRnet for the South African guys. 1) ZS-WEC KR2 with +/- 300 hours logged. Owned by Rob V.D Merwe.Full V.F.R panel, radio, headsets, transponder, intercom system, type4 VW. I have personally flown about seven hours in this plane and it is a real thrill. 2)ZU-BLJ--- This plane, based on the KR1 was built by the late Garth Kopke who was killed in a tragic accident while flying a water bomber fighting veld fires in Lesotho a while ago. I have not seen it in person, but I think it was at the E.A.A convention last year. The fuz is built like a kr but the wing is a fully removable one piece construction that attaches from underneath. Powered by a 1600 honda ballade motor with redrive. Both are going for around R50000-00 . For further info contact me direct . Dene Collett South Africa denec@netactive.co.za Laminating wing spar caps at last! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2000 11:06:03 +0200 To: jeb@thuntek.net From: Alessandro Pecorara CC: krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Fuel pump dilemma Message-ID: <38EDA4FA.73576049@telecomitalia.it> I'm trying to install the fuel lines on my KR. The carb is a Revflow, and I choose to use a fuel pump with by-pass line and check valve: quite a lot of fittings and tubing. As the firewall is already crowded (nosewheel leg, battery, etc.) I'm thinking about plancing the pump and valve in the cabin, between the tank and the gascolator, rather than between gascolator and carb., as commonly done. Anyone can tell me if this layout will not work properly? Thanks in advance. Alessandro Torino Italy ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 07:58:36 -0700 (PDT) To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: Mike Mims Subject: Re: KR> Fuel pump dilemma Message-ID: <20000407145836.22295.qmail@web1406.mail.yahoo.com> Actually the way you are thinking of doing it is "more common" in homebuilts. I would say 90% of all KRs are plumbed just this way. The Revflow does very well without a pump, in fact it might not work with a pump. It has a very large fuel inlet because it is setup for gravity feed. I bet you run into excessively rich conditions with the pump on. You may want to call Revmaster and ask them about it. Anyone out there run a Revflow or POSA with a pump? --- Alessandro Pecorara wrote: I choose to use a fuel pump with by-pass line and > check valve: quite a lot of fittings and tubing. As the firewall is already crowded (nosewheel leg, battery, etc.) I'm thinking about plancing the pump and > valve in the cabin, between the tank and the > gascolator, rather than between gascolator and carb., as commonly done. ===== ........| .......-^- ....-/_____\- ...(O\__o__/O) ...[#]oxxxo[#] -----Y2K Bug--- Yes I drive one! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 22:03:23 -0700 To: "Mike Mims" , From: "Joe Beyer" Subject: Re: KR> Fuel pump dilemma Message-ID: <002101bfa04e$d82415c0$8d850a3f@joebeyer> I run a POSA and it works fine, only because it is gravity fed. It's sensitive to head pressure, that is the more fuel in the tank the richer it runs. It's also sensitive to air temperature. In the summer it runs rich. In the winter it's lean. I have to drop the idle screw all the way down so it will idle below 900rpm. so I can land. These type of carburetors were never intended for fuel pumps. mailto:joejbeyer@earthlink.net Portland, Ore. ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike Mims To: Sent: Friday, April 07, 2000 7:58 AM Subject: Re: KR> Fuel pump dilemma > Actually the way you are thinking of doing it is "more > common" in homebuilts. I would say 90% of all KRs are > plumbed just this way. The Revflow does very well > without a pump, in fact it might not work with a pump. > It has a very large fuel inlet because it is setup for > gravity feed. I bet you run into excessively rich > conditions with the pump on. You may want to call > Revmaster and ask them about it. Anyone out there run > a Revflow or POSA with a pump? > > --- Alessandro Pecorara > wrote: > I choose to use a fuel pump with by-pass line and > > check valve: quite a lot of fittings and tubing. As > the firewall is already crowded (nosewheel leg, > battery, etc.) I'm thinking about plancing the pump > and > > valve in the cabin, between the tank and the > > gascolator, rather than between gascolator and > carb., as commonly done. > > ===== > ........| > .......-^- > ....-/_____\- > ...(O\__o__/O) > ...[#]oxxxo[#] > -----Y2K Bug--- > Yes I drive one! > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. > http://im.yahoo.com > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 18:28:32 -0400 To: "Joe Beyer" , "Mike Mims" , From: "RONALD.FREIBERGER" Subject: RE: KR> Fuel pump dilemma Message-ID: re Posa Carburetors; More correctly, they ought never be used on airplanes. Only a n opinion, but somewhat well founded. Ron Freiberger...In Sunny Fort Myers mailto:ron.martha@mindspring.com -----Original Message----- From: Joe Beyer [mailto:joejbeyer@earthlink.net] Sent: Friday, April 07, 2000 12:03 AM To: Mike Mims; krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> Fuel pump dilemma I run a POSA and it works fine, only because it is gravity fed. It's sensitive to head pressure, that is the more fuel in the tank the richer it runs. It's also sensitive to air temperature. In the summer it runs rich. In the winter it's lean. I have to drop the idle screw all the way down so it will idle below 900rpm. so I can land. These type of carburetors were never intended for fuel pumps. mailto:joejbeyer@earthlink.net Portland, Ore. ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike Mims To: Sent: Friday, April 07, 2000 7:58 AM Subject: Re: KR> Fuel pump dilemma > Actually the way you are thinking of doing it is "more > common" in homebuilts. I would say 90% of all KRs are > plumbed just this way. The Revflow does very well > without a pump, in fact it might not work with a pump. > It has a very large fuel inlet because it is setup for > gravity feed. I bet you run into excessively rich > conditions with the pump on. You may want to call > Revmaster and ask them about it. Anyone out there run > a Revflow or POSA with a pump? > > --- Alessandro Pecorara > wrote: > I choose to use a fuel pump with by-pass line and > > check valve: quite a lot of fittings and tubing. As > the firewall is already crowded (nosewheel leg, > battery, etc.) I'm thinking about plancing the pump > and > > valve in the cabin, between the tank and the > > gascolator, rather than between gascolator and > carb., as commonly done. > > ===== > ........| > .......-^- > ....-/_____\- > ...(O\__o__/O) > ...[#]oxxxo[#] > -----Y2K Bug--- > Yes I drive one! > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. > http://im.yahoo.com > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2000 05:10:00 PDT To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: "Richard Parker" Subject: Re: KR> Fuel pump dilemma Message-ID: <20000408121000.7487.qmail@hotmail.com> The posa documentation says not to use a pump. you'll just flood the engine and make a mess. I've got 2 posa's (best offer gets the one without the mixture control)I even take trades. Rich Parker >From: Mike Mims >To: krnet@mailinglists.org >Subject: Re: KR> Fuel pump dilemma >Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 07:58:36 -0700 (PDT) > >Actually the way you are thinking of doing it is "more >common" in homebuilts. I would say 90% of all KRs are >plumbed just this way. The Revflow does very well >without a pump, in fact it might not work with a pump. >It has a very large fuel inlet because it is setup for >gravity feed. I bet you run into excessively rich >conditions with the pump on. You may want to call >Revmaster and ask them about it. Anyone out there run >a Revflow or POSA with a pump? > >--- Alessandro Pecorara > wrote: >I choose to use a fuel pump with by-pass line and > > check valve: quite a lot of fittings and tubing. As >the firewall is already crowded (nosewheel leg, >battery, etc.) I'm thinking about plancing the pump >and > > valve in the cabin, between the tank and the > > gascolator, rather than between gascolator and >carb., as commonly done. > >===== >........| >.......-^- >....-/_____\- >...(O\__o__/O) >...[#]oxxxo[#] >-----Y2K Bug--- >Yes I drive one! > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. >http://im.yahoo.com > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org >For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2000 08:13:43 -0400 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: Tom Crawford Subject: Sun & Fun Message-ID: <38EDD0F7.66D4@atlantic.net> I'm off to Lakeland. Hope to see some KR people at Steve and Linda's cookout on Monday nite. Big time, be there. -- Tom Crawford Gainesville, FL N262TC Mailto:toys@atlantic.net http://www.tomshardwoodtoys.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 20:30:00 -0400 To: "KR-net users group" From: "saunders" Subject: EAA Fly-Ins Message-ID: <001701bfa0f1$9437a360$4260c4cf@oemcomputer> As this is Friday, I'm going to throw in this advertisement The local EAA chapter has a Fly-In/Drive-In Breakfast on the last Sunday of each month April through October. Our Annual Fly-In is the last Sunday in August. Everyone is invited to attend. The schedule is listed below: E.A.A. Chapter 426 Greater Cumberland Regional Airport - CBE Cumberland, Maryland AWOS 128.62 CTAF 122.8 http://www.cbeairport.allconet.org/ Fly-In/Drive-In Breakfast 7:00 AM until 12 Noon All You Can Eat $4.50 Sausage, Eggs, Hotcakes, Home Fries Coffee & Orange Juice Year 2000 Schedule April 30 May 28 June 10 - Young Eagles Day June 25 July 30 August 27 - Annual Fly-In September 24 October 29 Mike Saunders Cumberland, MD 301-759-2710 saunders@hereintown.net ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 21:54:58 EDT To: saunders@hereintown.net, krnet@mailinglists.org From: GARYKR2@cs.com Subject: Re: KR> EAA Fly-Ins Message-ID: I will be there for at least one of the meals. Started last Saturday loading up the calendar for this years flyin's, and will fit you folks in. I'll bring the KR and see if I can get Jerry to fly his down also. For those of you on the East Coast, I will post a couple of days in advance as to where I will be flying to, in hopes of trying to meet some of you. Also this will give you a chance to touch and sit in a live KR. The other thing that may get you pumped to keep building is, I normally do a fly by at 180mph when I depart. Gary Hinkle[A/P] Middletown, Pa. garykr2@cs.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2000 21:34:32 -0500 To: CorvAIRCRAFT , KR-Net From: Mark Jones Subject: Video Tape Message-ID: <38EE9AB8.799F1AF9@execpc.com> Hello CorvAIRCRAFT Heads, Recently I posted that I have a video tape showing a converted Corvair engine being test run by William Wynne which last about 14 minutes plus his discussion at the 1999 KR gathering which is about one hour long. I have 5 tapes left which I never received payment for. These 5 tapes are now being offered at a first come first serve basis for $10 each (postage included). E-mail me at mailto:flykr2s@execpc.com if you would like one of these. -- Mark Jones (N886MJ) Waukesha, WI USA mailto:flykr2s@execpc.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://sites.netscape.net/flykr2s/homepage ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 21:45:59 -0500 To: "KR-Net" From: "Mark Langford" Subject: hypothetical question... Message-ID: <005b01bfa104$923c4df0$a5f780ce@300EMACHINE> Got a question for you guys (I'm asking for somebody else). If you had a spam can that had been boogered up in an accident, could you replace the wings with composite ones, replace the cowling, maybe tail surfaces, and the engine, and register it as Experimental? I wish I had lots of progress to report, but have spent the last two weeks halfway dismantling my Scirocco for some crank work and rebalancing the rotating stuff. I DID get my EIS (Engine Information System) today, and it is one awesome piece of computer toy. I'm off to read the manual in a minute. Doug Steen's dropping by tomorrow on his way to SNF for an "inspection". He left early this afternoon and due to "ferocious" headwinds, managed only 48 knots (in his father's Luscombe) on his first leg before having to stop for fuel. He said it was so bumpy he was afraid the stick might break. Since everybody was gone home for the day, he's doing the tent thing until tomorrow, which sounds like a good thing. I'm not going to make SNF this year, due to a 2 week CAD class that some manager at work managed to schedule me for. Next year, I"M FLYING! Don't forget my original question about licensing former spam can carcasses as experimental... Thanks a lot, Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama mailto:langford@hiwaay.net see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2000 02:26:27 -0400 To: langford@hiwaay.net From: Michael Taglieri Cc: krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> hypothetical question... Message-ID: <20000408.023726.10630.4.MikeT_NYC@juno.com> >Got a question for you guys (I'm asking for somebody else). If you had a >spam can that had been boogered up in an accident, could you replace the >wings with composite ones, replace the cowling, maybe tail surfaces, and the >engine, and register it as Experimental? Maybe yes. Some experimentals have been made out of parts of larger, war-surplus planes. If 51% of the work was done by the homebuilder, I think you could register it as a homebuilt, but the guy should get approval first. Mike Taglieri ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 23:11:37 -0400 To: "KR-Net" From: "Cary Honeywell" Subject: Prop Prep Message-ID: <003201bfa108$274f6c30$0205a8c0@server1> Seems like every small job turns into a marathon over here. By the way, it is snowing at the moment so my normally cheery disposition is being tested. While prepping my (used) prop, I discovered that the supplier must have glassed the blades before finishing it. (Its supposed to be wood) Any advice from the gang here as to an angle of attack here? (pun. sorry) Should I just finish it with the glossy stuff, or do I need to glass it again then finish? If I glass, what should I be using. The old stuff is very fine and hard to identify. -Cary Honeywell - Ottawa Ontario Canada caryh@home.com ve3ev@rac.ca Home page http://24.112.208.98/ KR2 area http://24.112.208.98/kr2/kr2.shtml ------------------------------ End of krnet Digest ***********************************