From: To: Subject: krnet Digest 4 May 2000 15:37:08 -0000 Issue 21 Date: Thursday, May 04, 2000 7:38 AM krnet Digest 4 May 2000 15:37:08 -0000 Issue 21 Topics (messages 388 through 415): Re: Lets Vote 388 by: Wolf Packs, Inc. 389 by: Florin L Pintea 392 by: Leonardo 396 by: cartera 399 by: Ted Fields 400 by: david barner 405 by: marmet let's vote - NOT!!!!! 390 by: Jon Sinon Voting 391 by: Jeff Scott The Vote Is Over 393 by: flykr2s.execpc.com Re: Flugausbildungs-Stipendium von Victorinox] 394 by: Ross Youngblood GPS 395 by: KR2616TJ.aol.com Progress 397 by: Mike Mims 415 by: Ross Youngblood Re: AI 398 by: JEHayward.aol.com Re: Aileron Balancing 401 by: david barner 402 by: Mark Langford Lets not vote 403 by: Cary Honeywell 404 by: Florin L Pintea aeropoxy for fuel tanks? 406 by: Bob Smith experimental endorsement 407 by: Oscar Zuniga Tailwheel endorsement 408 by: RONALD.FREIBERGER 410 by: Mike Mims Re: elevators 409 by: RONALD.FREIBERGER Sea Plane Rating, 411 by: Forrest Erickson Fun Friday?? OH, well:-) 412 by: KR2616TJ.aol.com 414 by: Jeff Scott Posa 413 by: david barner Administrivia: To subscribe to the digest, e-mail: To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail: To post to the list, e-mail: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 02 May 2000 08:47:19 -0700 To: Richard Selix , Cary Honeywell From: "Wolf Packs, Inc." Cc: krnet user group Subject: Re: KR> Lets Vote Message-Id: <4.3.1.2.20000502084641.00ace310@pop.mindspring.com> Yes, > The question being put to the net is "Should we keep the list as it is now > where you must reply to all manually for the list to see your message" > > A yes indicates agreement. Paul M. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 10:33:23 -0700 To: "Cary Honeywell" , "krnet user group" From: "Florin L Pintea" Subject: Re: KR> Lets Vote Message-ID: <002901bfb45c$846ead60$25194618@cgws1.ab.wave.home.com> I vote NO! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cary Honeywell" To: "krnet user group" Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2000 6:34 AM Subject: Re: KR> Lets Vote > Actually, voting is useless unless someone is keeping the tab. Is anyone? If > not, lets try it again and I will keep the tab. Say voting starts now > (without comments. Just a yes or no, and the voting ends on Friday night at > midnight. > > The question being put to the net is "Should we keep the list as it is now > where you must reply to all manually for the list to see your message" > > A yes indicates agreement. > > A no indicates that the member requests that the list be returned to its > former state where a simple reply, or any general reply defaults to the list > and members must manually reply to the author. > > If I am overstepping my bounds, please, someone slap me down. > > - Cary - > > -Cary Honeywell - > Ottawa Ontario Canada > caryh@home.com > ve3ev@rac.ca > Home page http://24.112.208.98/ > KR2 area http://24.112.208.98/kr2/kr2.shtml > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: "krnet user group" > Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2000 1:41 AM > Subject: Fwd: KR> Lets Vote > > > > I vote yes > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > ---- > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 14:11:50 -0300 To: "Richard Selix" , "Cary Honeywell" From: "Leonardo" Cc: "krnet user group" Subject: Re: KR> Lets Vote Message-ID: <000901bfb459$8230f9c0$4a5cfea9@estacao1> i vote no i dont mind pressing bottons . LEO . KR2S, BRAZIL ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 May 2000 12:09:55 -0600 To: "Wolf Packs, Inc." From: cartera CC: Richard Selix , Cary Honeywell , krnet user group Subject: Re: KR> Lets Vote Message-ID: <390F19F3.7AED713C@cuug.ab.ca> "Wolf Packs, Inc." wrote: > > Yes, > > > The question being put to the net is "Should we keep the list as it is now > > where you must reply to all manually for the list to see your message" > > > > A yes indicates agreement. > > Paul M. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org Yes for me, too. But I am pretty fast with CTL-A DELETE or reply all! Have a good day, all you flyers and dreamers. -- Adrian VE6AFY Calgary, Alberta Mailto:cartera@cuug.ab.ca http://www.cuug.ab.ca/~cartera ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 19:39:06 -0500 To: "cartera" , "Wolf Packs, Inc." From: "Ted Fields" Cc: "Richard Selix" , "Cary Honeywell" , "krnet user group" Subject: Re: KR> Lets Vote Message-ID: <002701bfb497$fdd7c160$2b0032cf@tbird> Leave it like it is Ted ----- Original Message ----- Subject: Re: KR> Lets Vote > "Wolf Packs, Inc." wrote: > > > > > > > > The question being put to the net is "Should we keep the list as it is now > > > where you must reply to all manually for the list to see your message" > > > > > > A yes indicates agreement. > > > > Paul M. > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > Yes for me, too. But I am pretty fast with CTL-A DELETE or reply all! > Have a good day, all you flyers and dreamers. > -- > Adrian VE6AFY > Calgary, Alberta > Mailto:cartera@cuug.ab.ca > http://www.cuug.ab.ca/~cartera > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 May 2000 21:07:49 -0400 To: Cary Honeywell From: david barner CC: krnet user group Subject: Re: KR> Lets Vote Message-ID: <390F7BE5.62564753@frognet.net> I like it this way as long as everyone that is answering a question replies to all,I'm new to experimental homebuilt aircraft from heavy ultralight. I've learned alot by listening to all you guys and don't want to miss anything, so i vote yes. Cary Honeywell wrote: > Actually, voting is useless unless someone is keeping the tab. Is anyone? If > not, lets try it again and I will keep the tab. Say voting starts now > (without comments. Just a yes or no, and the voting ends on Friday night at > midnight. > > The question being put to the net is "Should we keep the list as it is now > where you must reply to all manually for the list to see your message" > > A yes indicates agreement. > > A no indicates that the member requests that the list be returned to its > former state where a simple reply, or any general reply defaults to the list > and members must manually reply to the author. > > If I am overstepping my bounds, please, someone slap me down. > > - Cary - > > -Cary Honeywell - > Ottawa Ontario Canada > caryh@home.com > ve3ev@rac.ca > Home page http://24.112.208.98/ > KR2 area http://24.112.208.98/kr2/kr2.shtml > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: "krnet user group" > Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2000 1:41 AM > Subject: Fwd: KR> Lets Vote > > > I vote yes > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---- > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 May 2000 07:57:27 -0400 To: Cary Honeywell From: marmet Cc: krnet user group Subject: Re: KR> Lets Vote Message-id: <39101427.9B98B569@videotron.ca> --Boundary_(ID_geYUBaCeqtp0PQ6cWE0E3w) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit I vote YES.... J.C.Marcoux Cary Honeywell wrote: > Actually, voting is useless unless someone is keeping the tab. Is anyone? If > not, lets try it again and I will keep the tab. Say voting starts now > (without comments. Just a yes or no, and the voting ends on Friday night at > midnight. > > The question being put to the net is "Should we keep the list as it is now > where you must reply to all manually for the list to see your message" > > A yes indicates agreement. > > A no indicates that the member requests that the list be returned to its > former state where a simple reply, or any general reply defaults to the list > and members must manually reply to the author. > > If I am overstepping my bounds, please, someone slap me down. > > - Cary - > > -Cary Honeywell - > Ottawa Ontario Canada > caryh@home.com > ve3ev@rac.ca > Home page http://24.112.208.98/ > KR2 area http://24.112.208.98/kr2/kr2.shtml > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: "krnet user group" > Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2000 1:41 AM > Subject: Fwd: KR> Lets Vote > > > I vote yes > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---- > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org --Boundary_(ID_geYUBaCeqtp0PQ6cWE0E3w)-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 09:37:24 -0700 To: From: "Jon Sinon" Subject: let's vote - NOT!!!!! Message-ID: <01ad01bfb454$b6314cc0$b7c3efd1@jonsinon> ------=_NextPart_000_01A9_01BFB41A.05D41E00 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_01AA_01BFB41A.05D41E00" ------=_NextPart_001_01AA_01BFB41A.05D41E00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I think we've about beat this horse long enough, let's get into the = technical stuff, damn! ------=_NextPart_001_01AA_01BFB41A.05D41E00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I think we've about beat this horse long enough, let's get into the = technical stuff, damn!
------=_NextPart_001_01AA_01BFB41A.05D41E00-- ------=_NextPart_000_01A9_01BFB41A.05D41E00-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 12:49:32 -0400 (EDT) To: From: Jeff Scott Subject: Voting Message-ID: <383158088.957286172176.JavaMail.root@web127-wra.mail.com> From the Administrator: The fact that so many have managed to post a vote to the KRNet illustrates that you can indeed actually post. This is a pretty intelligent group of people that are capable of addressing their emails for delivery to the proper people or groups. The list will stay as it is. I haven't seen any loss of technical content of the KRNet, just a loss of overall noise level, which is what most folks wanted. We can't please everyone, so this is the way it is. Feel free to send me your hate mail regarding this subject, but before you hit that send button, keep in mind that this forum is essentually free for everyone to use and is operated by unpaid volunteers. "Net Mom" Jeff Scott mailto:jscott.pilot@juno.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 12:23:07 -0500 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: flykr2s@execpc.com Cc: Subject: The Vote Is Over Message-Id: <200005021723.MAA08837@mailgw02.execpc.com> Jeff Scott, a net administrator has spoken. THE VOTE IS OVER. The net will remain as it is!!! I apologise for ever posting "Lets Vote". Sorry! Now, lets move on to KR stuff again. Mark Jones (N886MJ) Waukesha, WI mailto:flykr2s@execpc.com http://sites.netscape.net/flykr2s/homepage ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 May 2000 10:36:19 -0700 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: Ross Youngblood Subject: [Fwd: Flugausbildungs-Stipendium von Victorinox] Message-ID: <390F1213.500FEB98@teleport.com> --------------68CBCD74A0338D029D1EBF37 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is possibly off topic, but perhaps you know someone who could benefit from this. -- Ross --------------68CBCD74A0338D029D1EBF37 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Received: by relay1 (mbox rossy) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Tue May 2 10:29:24 2000) X-From_: campdirector@ftacamp.com Tue May 02 15:47:50 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: rossy@teleport.com Received: (qmail 4162 invoked from network); 2 May 2000 15:47:48 -0000 Received: from aurora.balcab.ch (213.200.1.126) by smtp6.teleport.com with SMTP; 2 May 2000 15:47:48 -0000 Received: from sigma.balcab.ch (sigma.balcab.ch [213.200.1.125]) by aurora.balcab.ch (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA06598 for ; Tue, 2 May 2000 17:47:47 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from [213.200.23.235] by sigma.balcab.ch (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with ESMTP id AFZD8C for ; Tue, 2 May 2000 17:47:45 +0200 X-Sender: mail@ftacamp.com (Unverified) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 04:58:04 +0100 To: rossy@teleport.com (Ross Youngblood) From: FTAC Scholarship Office Subject: Flugausbildungs-Stipendium von Victorinox X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 Aviation Summer Camp Scholarships by Victorinox 10th Anniversary of Flight Training Adventure Camps ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Great news for all those interested in learning to fly. 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If you are receiving this message in duplicates, please indicate the duplicate addresses in the message body and write DUPLICATES in the subject line. This message meets the requirements of Bill s.1618 TITLE III passed by the 105th U.S. Congress. It is sent to you by: Flight Training Adventure Camps (Europe Office) PO Box 4321, Hochstrasse 55, CH-4002 Basel Sender: mail@ftacamp.com from mail.balcab.ch Reply to scholarships@ftacamp.com or campdirector@ftacamp.com --------------68CBCD74A0338D029D1EBF37-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 14:18:01 EDT To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: KR2616TJ@aol.com Subject: GPS Message-ID: <27.504e9d4.264075d9@aol.com> For those not aware of a change that just occurred, great news. The government removed the SA the GPS satellites. We now receive the same signal as the military. The SA degraded the signal we received and made our GPS's not as accurate as they were capable of being. The military did this as a means to protect troops in combat. They now have the ability to degrade the signal in specific areas if needed. My airmap 100 today got to within 18 feet vertically and about 20 feet horizontally of a "known" position. Considering your altimeter only has to be within 200 feet for IFR certification, this is pretty darn good. Another point, in IFR your OBS only has to be within 4 degrees......now 4 degrees at 60 miles is four miles off. That why you fly non precision approaches with precision. The GPS within 20 feet, would seem to be a little better.................. I can't get the image of 1000s of GPS owners wandering around in back yards this evening. Dana Overall 2000 KR Gathering host Richmond, KY mailto:kr2616tj@aol.com http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/hangar/7085/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 14:50:21 -0700 (PDT) To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: Mike Mims Subject: Progress Message-ID: <20000502215021.6115.qmail@web1406.mail.yahoo.com> Hey I worked on my KR for almost 8 hours this weekend. How about that?!?!? :o) The tops of the stub wings are finally repaired from the hack job that was required to install the landing gear. I hope to get the bottoms close to done this coming up weekend. Then its onto trying to get this thing painted. Oh yeah back to superfil and smoothprime! Woo Hoo. ===== ........| .......-^- ....-/_____\- ...(O\__o__/O) ...[#]oxxxo[#] -----Y2K Bug--- Yes I drive one! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 May 2000 08:41:06 -0700 To: Mike Mims From: Ross Youngblood CC: krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> Progress Message-ID: <39119A11.53852DCF@teleport.com> Mike, That's pretty good. My marathon idea has stalled due to a major "backyard project", my father-in-law helped us pour concrete so I can get my spa out of storage and complete my move from Oregon... this is a major distraction. However, I did find my ELT mounting strap last weekend! It was with my tool bucket! - Ross Mike Mims wrote: > Hey I worked on my KR for almost 8 hours this weekend. > How about that?!?!? :o) The tops of the stub wings > are finally repaired from the hack job that was > required to install the landing gear. I hope to get > the bottoms close to done this coming up weekend. Then > its onto trying to get this thing painted. Oh yeah > back to superfil and smoothprime! Woo Hoo. > > ===== > ........| > .......-^- > ....-/_____\- > ...(O\__o__/O) > ...[#]oxxxo[#] > -----Y2K Bug--- > Yes I drive one! > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. > http://im.yahoo.com/ > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 20:13:59 EDT To: GARYKR2@cs.com, richontheroad@hotmail.com, krnet@mailinglists.org From: JEHayward@aol.com Subject: Re: KR> AI Message-ID: <98.48361d3.2640c947@aol.com> In a message dated 05/01/00 7:32:38 PM Mountain Daylight Time, GARYKR2@cs.com writes: << Anyone know how to test if an Airspeed indicator is functional? it says not to blow in the tubes. (the first thing that came to my mind) >> I just placed the tube in my mouth and pushed my tongue forward as though I were squeezing water from my mouth. That way, I never took the chance of having too much air volume to peg the indicator. It worked just fine for me that way. Jim Hayward Rapid City, SD ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 May 2000 21:14:11 -0400 To: KR2616TJ@aol.com From: david barner CC: krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> Re: Aileron Balancing Message-ID: <390F7D63.F0820553@frognet.net> are there any symptoms that happens before a flutter starts, like the controls mush out just before a stall KR2616TJ@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 05/01/2000 10:01:43 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > langford@hiwaay.net writes: > > << Gary Hinkle [A/P] wrote: > > > First I have a question. Was this the EAA East Coast Fly In? And if it > was, > > Jerry and I were the only KRs there. > > No. It was the "East Coast KR Gathering" at Columbia Tennessee in '98, as > shown at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/columbia/columbia.html . >> > > The East Coast KR Gathering was something, Mark, Troy and myself put together > in 1998 apart from the regular gathering. This was to enable builders within > easy driving distance to meet in Columbia, TN to show up and "compare" ideas > in person. It is a great way for people in the same geographic area to get > together. > > As for balancing your ailerons....................for goodness sakes, balance > them. It's a no brainer. Flutter can occur at any speed, although it is > more likely to occur at higher speed. Recovery from a flutter occurrence is > to immediately change the airflow over the flying surfaces. This is usually > accomplished by rapid speed reduction by reducing power and increasing the > angle of attack. The increase in AOA naturally increases the load factor on > the wings. Couple this with the loads imposed with a fluttering surface, and > you are looking at catastrophic failure, makes for a bad day. The > instructions are pretty straight forward in how to balance. > > Dana Overall > 2000 KR Gathering host > Richmond, KY > mailto:kr2616tj@aol.com > http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/7085/ > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 20:10:33 -0500 To: From: "Mark Langford" Subject: Re: KR> Re: Aileron Balancing Message-ID: <003001bfb49c$620ed3e0$a5f780ce@300emachine> > are there any symptoms that happens before a flutter starts, like the controls > mush out just before a stall No advance notice at all. And if you don't do something within a second or two, the wings can depart the plane, or at the very least, the ailerons can... Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama mailto:langford@hiwaay.net see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 01:10:09 -0400 To: From: "Cary Honeywell" Subject: Lets not vote Message-ID: <04b901bfb4bd$da4002f0$0205a8c0@server1> Ok you can all stop sending me your votes. The admins have arbitrarily made the voting academic. - Cary - -Cary Honeywell - Ottawa Ontario Canada caryh@home.com ve3ev@rac.ca Home page http://24.112.208.98/ KR2 area http://24.112.208.98/kr2/kr2.shtml ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 01:31:53 -0700 To: "Cary Honeywell" , From: "Florin L Pintea" Subject: Re: KR> Lets not vote Message-ID: <006f01bfb4da$09380640$25194618@cgws1.ab.wave.home.com> It definitely looks like democracy prevailed out there after all! Ha! Florin! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cary Honeywell" To: Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2000 10:10 PM Subject: KR> Lets not vote > Ok you can all stop sending me your votes. The admins have arbitrarily made > the voting academic. > > - Cary - > > -Cary Honeywell - > Ottawa Ontario Canada > caryh@home.com > ve3ev@rac.ca > Home page http://24.112.208.98/ > KR2 area http://24.112.208.98/kr2/kr2.shtml > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 09:13:45 -0700 To: From: "Bob Smith" Subject: aeropoxy for fuel tanks? Message-ID: <003201bfb51a$8f04d920$cf9c1918@nycap.rr.com> ------=_NextPart_000_002F_01BFB4DF.E25B3C80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I know this has been discussed but I can't remember what the verdict = was.=20 Can aeropoxy be used for to layup fuel tanks? Is anyone right now = successfully using it for fuel tanks? What does the manufacturer say = about this? I do realize that vinylester resin seems to be most commonly used but I = hear that it is a pain to use and I like using aeropoxy. I have done = one test where I layed up clark urethane foam with aeropoxy/glass and = put it in a can of gasoline for several weeks and it appeared to be = unchanged. Bob Smith Albany, NY ------=_NextPart_000_002F_01BFB4DF.E25B3C80-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 May 2000 06:26:37 PDT To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: "Oscar Zuniga" Subject: experimental endorsement Message-ID: <20000503132637.74503.qmail@hotmail.com> Don wrote: >If you are flying the plane that you built, you do not need a >type rating of any sort. Tail wheel, turbine, floats, >high-performance, etc. Wait! Did you say floats? You mean you don't need a /sea rating to fly floats if you're flying your own homebuilt on floats? Way zany, but cool! I'm planning on building floats for my "KR Construction Trainer", the M-19... and after finding out that getting a /sea rating costs a bunch of money, the idea of maybe not needing it sounds interesting. I do know that my friend Jeff Sterling flies his highly-modified Pacer on amphib floats and he doesn't have a /sea rating. He modified the airplane an extreme amount, and I think he has it registered as a "Sterling" rather than a Pacer. You can see it at http://www.geocities.com/taildrags/sterling.html Oscar Zuniga Medford, Oregon mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.geocities.com/taildrags/ ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 20:52:08 -0500 To: "KRNET" From: "RONALD.FREIBERGER" Subject: Tailwheel endorsement Message-ID: All should be aware that to get a tailwheel endorsement, you have to be able to fly an airplane with a tailwheel. Hello! DUH?? Ron Freiberger...In Sunny Kokomo mailto:ron.martha@mindspring.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 May 2000 22:37:32 -0700 From: Mike Mims CC: KRNET Subject: Re: KR> Tailwheel endorsement Message-ID: <39110C9C.7CF22DC8@home.com> "RONALD.FREIBERGER" wrote: > > All should be aware that to get a tailwheel endorsement, you have to be able > to fly an airplane with a tailwheel. Hello! DUH?? > Are you sure? I know some pilots who have the endorsement but they still can not fly tail wheel aircraft! :o) Sorry couldn't resist! -- __________________ Micheal Mims Aliso Viejo Ca ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ........| .......-^- ....-/_____\- ...(O\__o__/O) ...[#]oxxxo[#] -----Y2K Bug--- Yes I drive one! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 20:52:18 -0500 To: "Donald Reid" , From: "RONALD.FREIBERGER" Subject: RE: KR> elevators Message-ID: Does anyone know what the resonant frequency was on the T-18 before the fixed 'em? Ron Freiberger...In Sunny Fort Myers mailto:ron.martha@mindspring.com -----Original Message----- From: Donald Reid [mailto:donreid@erols.com] Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2000 7:26 PM To: krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> elevators At 08:11 PM 4/30/00 -0400, david barner wrote: >Do the elevators and flaps have to be balanced also? Flaps are almost never balanced. If they retract against some kind of a stop, then flutter is limited. Most KR's do not balance the elevator, it is a "good feeling" kind of modification. Elevators can suffer from flutter, but due to shorter length, the natural frequency of vibration is generally higher than for a wing. Don Reid mailto:donreid@erols.com Bumpass, Va KR2XL at http://www.erols.com/donreid/kr_page.htm USUA Club 250 at http://www.erols.com/donreid/usua250.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 May 2000 05:50:24 -0400 To: Oscar Zuniga From: Forrest Erickson CC: krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Sea Plane Rating, Message-ID: <391147E0.3D663E4C@icx.net> --------------08EB9E9DBE81575E781B86A1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear Oscar, In 1998, I satisfied my biannual flight review by getting my sea plane rating Check out the pictures at my web page taken wile earning my sea plane rating. http://user.icx.net/~erickson/planes/sea/ses.htm The flying was fun and VERY instructive. I would say that, although I earned my rating, I would not yet fly with out an instructor. In my opinion, the minimums allow by the FAA are not adequate to be safe. Insurance companies will require you to have far more than the FAA minimum before they will cover you. I am sure they have statistics which demonstrate this need. This is an instance where their needs and yours coincide. At the risk of sounding preachy, you should not attempt float flying with out professional instruction. The control of a plane on floats requires MUCH more precision than that of a plane on wheels on land. There are also special techniques for different water conditions that are important to experience with an instructor. Budget your money and get instruction before you try it alone. Have fun, Forrest Erickson Oscar Zuniga wrote: > Don wrote: > >If you are flying the plane that you built, you do not need a > >type rating of any sort. Tail wheel, turbine, floats, > >high-performance, etc. > > Wait! Did you say floats? You mean you don't need a /sea rating to fly > floats if you're flying your own homebuilt on floats? Way zany, but cool! > I'm planning on building floats for my "KR Construction Trainer", the > M-19... and after finding out that getting a /sea rating costs a bunch of > money, the idea of maybe not needing it sounds interesting. > > I do know that my friend Jeff Sterling flies his highly-modified Pacer on > amphib floats and he doesn't have a /sea rating. He modified the airplane > an extreme amount, and I think he has it registered as a "Sterling" rather > than a Pacer. You can see it at > http://www.geocities.com/taildrags/sterling.html > > Oscar Zuniga > Medford, Oregon > mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com > website at http://www.geocities.com/taildrags/ > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org --------------08EB9E9DBE81575E781B86A1-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 07:53:11 EDT To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: KR2616TJ@aol.com Subject: Fun Friday?? OH, well:-) Message-ID: <4a.4eea0cb.2642bea7@aol.com> Check this out guys!!!!!!!!!! http://www.selfstorageguide.com/flyby.htm Dana Overall 2000 KR Gathering host Richmond, KY mailto:kr2616tj@aol.com http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/hangar/7085/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 09:35:38 -0400 (EDT) To: KR2616TJ@aol.com, krnet@mailinglists.org From: Jeff Scott Subject: RE: KR> Fun Friday?? OH, well:-) Message-ID: <384944650.957447338520.JavaMail.root@web25.pub01> That fly by supposedly cost the pilot 30 days of ground time (No flying). The picture was probably worth it. :o) Jeff Scott ------Original Message------ Check this out guys!!!!!!!!!! http://www.selfstorageguide.com/flyby.htm Dana Overall ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 May 2000 09:21:14 -0400 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: david barner Subject: Posa Message-ID: <3911794A.6651B401@frognet.net> does anyone have the manual for the posa carb? ------------------------------ End of krnet Digest ***********************************