From: To: Subject: krnet Digest 14 May 2000 06:17:56 -0000 Issue 26 Date: Saturday, May 13, 2000 10:18 PM krnet Digest 14 May 2000 06:17:56 -0000 Issue 26 Topics (messages 513 through 536): Re: stall 513 by: Ted Fields 515 by: Ed Janssen 521 by: Ross Youngblood 524 by: AviationMech.aol.com Re: alternator 514 by: KR2616TJ.aol.com Re: krnet Digest 12 May 2000 03:37:22 -0000 Issue 25 516 by: Bob Sauer 528 by: w.g. kirkland Aileron cable routing 517 by: Robert7721.aol.com 518 by: Joe Beyer 519 by: flykr2s.execpc.com 523 by: Kenneth L Wiltrout Cleaners 520 by: Kr2dream.aol.com Re: 2000 KR Gathering 522 by: Edwin Blocher posa 525 by: david barner 526 by: Mike Mims 527 by: Joe Beyer 529 by: w.g. kirkland 533 by: The Muses 534 by: Joe Beyer R: KR> R: KR> O-200 530 by: FLAMINIA PATERNO Test 531 by: Bob Sauer 532 by: Mark Jones dfly for sale 535 by: FRED SMITH -2S Project for sale 536 by: Randy Stout Administrivia: To subscribe to the digest, e-mail: To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail: To post to the list, e-mail: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 23:17:08 -0500 To: "cartera" , From: "Ted Fields" Cc: Subject: Re: KR> stall Message-ID: <000c01bfbbc8$f0f7fae0$c76467ce@tbird> HI Adrain: I enjoyed your home page. I am retired and have flown most of my life I have owned 3 Piper Tri Pacers and still own one. I recently bought a KR 2. I am the fourth owner and it still hasn't flown. It need a lot of work, for one thing it need a gas tank. The fiberglass tank has been patched and still leaks. I need to make a metal tank. It does not have a elevator trim like yours. I rigged one up using springs and a lever I hope it works. I have read a lot about aleron balancing. How is this accomplished? Where will the balance weights go on the alerons and not bind on the wings? Mine has a 1600 engine with alternator. I also have a 1837 engine set up for a KR with Mag with about 10 hrs taxie time on it. I might sell it after I get mine flyin to see how I like the 1600 engine. Ted Fields Guymon OK > > Gad, I wish these rumors would go away. My KR with the the throttle > closed would just mush, no wing drop, just a comfortable slow mush, > until you added 1500 rpm and got that nose up at about a 30 degree angle > on the nose, should not say snapped over because it will start another > rumor, the nose had a definite break which is not too fast and fully > controllable. That is both with flap and clean, except the speeds were > different. Want the speed go to my web site? Hope that puts it to rest. > -- > Adrian VE6AFY > Calgary, Alberta > Mailto:cartera@cuug.ab.ca > http://www.cuug.ab.ca/~cartera > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 07:31:35 -0500 To: , "Joe Beyer" From: ejanssen@chipsnet.com (Ed Janssen) Cc: , Subject: Re: KR> stall Message-ID: <002e01bfbc0e$03c269e0$930e2bd8@fasteddie> My KR-1 is also pretty gentle in stalls except for the power on stall. It takes effort to get it to stall power on, but when it does break clean, watch out! It swaps ends fast enough to be very uncomfortable , to me at least. Ed Janssen > > > > > how does the KR2 handle in a stall, I was told it would be squirrly > > You need to listen to Joe. Whomever told you that it was squirrly, doesn't > know what they were talking about. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 14:47:32 -0700 To: Ted Fields From: Ross Youngblood CC: cartera , skypilot@frognet.net, krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> stall Message-ID: <391C7BF4.98BECF1E@teleport.com> Ted, The plans call for a "L" bracket that is mounted to the aileron spar and it extends into the slipstream, but when the aileron is deflected downwards a portion of it retracts into the wing. I need to photograph this and put it on my website. I guess there was a lot of talk about this as it is somthing I have been fussing over for a while now. -- Ross Ted Fields wrote: > HI Adrain: I enjoyed your home page. I am retired and have flown most of > my life I have owned 3 Piper Tri Pacers and still own one. I recently > bought a KR 2. I am the fourth owner and it still hasn't flown. It need a > lot of work, for one thing it need a gas tank. The fiberglass tank has been > patched and still leaks. I need to make a metal tank. It does not have a > elevator trim like yours. I rigged one up using springs and a lever I hope > it works. I have read a lot about aleron balancing. How is this > accomplished? Where will the balance weights go on the alerons and not > bind on the wings? Mine has a 1600 engine with alternator. I also have a > 1837 engine set up for a KR with Mag with about 10 hrs taxie time on it. I > might sell it after I get mine flyin to see how I like the 1600 engine. > > Ted Fields > Guymon OK > > > > > Gad, I wish these rumors would go away. My KR with the the throttle > > closed would just mush, no wing drop, just a comfortable slow mush, > > until you added 1500 rpm and got that nose up at about a 30 degree angle > > on the nose, should not say snapped over because it will start another > > rumor, the nose had a definite break which is not too fast and fully > > controllable. That is both with flap and clean, except the speeds were > > different. Want the speed go to my web site? Hope that puts it to rest. > > -- > > Adrian VE6AFY > > Calgary, Alberta > > Mailto:cartera@cuug.ab.ca > > http://www.cuug.ab.ca/~cartera > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 21:26:16 EDT To: skypilot@frognet.net, krnet@mailinglists.org From: AviationMech@aol.com Subject: Re: KR> stall Message-ID: <7d.4d0cdd0.264e0938@aol.com> The stall is gentle, fun, like a roller coaster going over the top. If you have a climb prop and enough power, you can hang it on the prop. People say the KR is squirrelly, because mostly their point of reference is from a sloppy airplane like the 152. Precision aircraft like the pitts, military fighters and such don't have slop in the controls. The KR flys more like these aircraft. If you wiggle the stick, the aircraft reacts quickly. Initially most new pilots tend to over control the KR instead of lightly controlling the plane. When you fasten your seat belt its like connecting yourself to your machine, like the imaginary robot, you wear the KR, you put on your plane and go flying. Last year I got to fly a King air from the left seat. It felt like operating a bus. Orma FAA A&P with Inspection Authorization aviationmech@aol.com http:/members.aol.com/aviationmech ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 07:35:51 EDT To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: KR2616TJ@aol.com Subject: Re: KR> alternator Message-ID: In a message dated 05/11/2000 5:46:17 PM Eastern Daylight Time, skypilot@frognet.net writes: << what alternator is everyone using and how much does it weigh >> What engine are you using? Dana Overall 2000 KR Gathering host Richmond, KY mailto:kr2616tj@aol.com http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/7085/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 10:51:15 -0700 To: , From: "Bob Sauer" Subject: Re: krnet Digest 12 May 2000 03:37:22 -0000 Issue 25 Message-ID: <000e01bfbc3a$ad60f1c0$2b70a1d0@home> I need some help on what latches could be used for securing gullwing doors on the canopy of my KR2S. Anyone used something similar? Thank Bob Sauer ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 May 2000 11:21:55 -0400 To: "Bob Sauer" , , From: "w.g. kirkland" Subject: Re: KR> Re: krnet Digest 12 May 2000 03:37:22 -0000 Issue 25 Message-Id: <200005131522.LAA28913@vianet.on.ca> ------=_NextPart_000_01BFBCCD.71E4C980 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Request I be included in the answers to Bob's question. obrigado W.G.(Bill) KIRKLAND kirkland@vianet.on.ca ---------- > From: Bob Sauer > To: krnet-digest-help@mailinglists.org; krnet@mailinglists.org > Subject: KR> Re: krnet Digest 12 May 2000 03:37:22 -0000 Issue 25 > Date: Friday, May 12, 2000 1:51 PM > > I need some help on what latches could be used for securing gullwing doors > on the canopy of my KR2S. Anyone used something similar? Thank Bob Sauer > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org ------=_NextPart_000_01BFBCCD.71E4C980-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 14:11:43 EDT To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: Robert7721@aol.com Subject: Aileron cable routing Message-ID: Aileron cable routing. I have a question for those who have the tri-gear, and have made the Diehl modification to the aileron cable routing at the fuselage side. I have a center control stick I made very similar to the plans. The bell crank for the ailerons at the bottom to the stick is fixed with a bolt so that the bellcrank can not rotate (per plans). I routed the cable for the ailerons per the Diehl modifications so that the cable goes through the side of the fuselage (through a nylon tube floxed in the fuselage side), behind the main gear casting, to the pulley mounted on the main spar, and back to the bellcrank behind the aft spar. Problem is I am getting some tensioning of the cable at the aft spar from neutral stick position to the full right or left stick position. I have had a EAA technical counselor inspect the plane recently and suggested I find out how other people have solved the problem. My solution is to use a bolt with castle nut and flange bearings at the bottom of the stick. This will allow the bellcrank to rotate and eliminate some of the tension when the fixed ends of the crank rotate at the bottom of the stick. Any other suggestions? Rob Schmitt Lee’s Summit MO Robert7721@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 23:36:21 -0700 To: , From: "Joe Beyer" Subject: Re: KR> Aileron cable routing Message-ID: <002d01bfbbdc$64eb3a80$de41b23f@earthlink.net> This is how I did my rigging. Where the two cables join at the lower stick, they fasten to an aluminum tab with a 3/16 hole in the center. This is the pivot point for the ailerons. In my case it's an eye bolt facing aft. The aileron tab is on the front of the stick, and the eye end of the bolt is on the back side of the stick where the up elevator cable attaches. Everything is assembled loosely with grease and safetied with castle nuts and cotter pins. mailto:joejbeyer@earthlink.net Portland, Ore. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, May 12, 2000 11:11 AM Subject: KR> Aileron cable routing > Aileron cable routing. > > I have a question for those who have the tri-gear, and have made the Diehl modification to the aileron cable routing at the fuselage side. I have a center control stick I made very similar to the plans. The bell crank for the ailerons at the bottom to the stick is fixed with a bolt so that the bellcrank can not rotate (per plans). I routed the cable for the ailerons per the Diehl modifications so that the cable goes through the side of the fuselage (through a nylon tube floxed in the fuselage side), behind the main gear casting, to the pulley mounted on the main spar, and back to the bellcrank behind the aft spar. > > Problem is I am getting some tensioning of the cable at the aft spar from neutral stick position to the full right or left stick position. I have had a EAA technical counselor inspect the plane recently and suggested I find out how other people have solved the problem. > > My solution is to use a bolt with castle nut and flange bearings at the bottom of the stick. This will allow the bellcrank to rotate and eliminate some of the tension when the fixed ends of the crank rotate at the bottom of the stick. > > Any other suggestions? > > Rob Schmitt > Lee’s Summit MO > Robert7721@aol.com > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 13:40:01 -0500 To: Robert7721@aol.com From: flykr2s@execpc.com Cc: krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> Aileron cable routing Message-Id: <200005121840.NAA20413@mailgw00.execpc.com> Robert, I experienced the same problem and even noticed the aft spar would flex forward about 3/32" when the stick was deflected. You must modify the cable attachment at the bottom of the stick to allow for rotation with the cable. Also go to my web site http://sites.netscape.net/flykr2s/homepage and you can view my modifications on the cable routing. Mark Jones (N886MJ) Waukesha, WI > Aileron cable routing. > > I have a question for those who have the tri-gear, and have made the Diehl modification to the aileron cable routing at the fuselage side. I have a center control stick I made very similar to the plans. The bell crank for the ailerons at the bottom to the stick is fixed with a bolt so that the bellcrank can not rotate (per plans). I routed the cable for the ailerons per the Diehl modifications so that the cable goes through the side of the fuselage (through a nylon tube floxed in the fuselage side), behind the main gear casting, to the pulley mounted on the main spar, and back to the bellcrank behind the aft spar. > > Problem is I am getting some tensioning of the cable at the aft spar from neutral stick position to the full right or left stick position. I have had a EAA technical counselor inspect the plane recently and suggested I find out how other people have solved the problem. > > My solution is to use a bolt with castle nut and flange bearings at the bottom of the stick. This will allow the bellcrank to rotate and eliminate some of the tension when the fixed ends of the crank rotate at the bottom of the stick. > > Any other suggestions? > > Rob Schmitt > Lee’s Summit MO > Robert7721@aol.com > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 21:22:33 -0400 To: Robert7721@aol.com From: Kenneth L Wiltrout Cc: krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> Aileron cable routing Message-ID: <20000512.212234.-259683.0.klw1953@juno.com> All I did was drill a small hole through the gear and casting, this allows the cable to run in a straight line rather than doing an end run behind the gear. If you ever have to re rig your bird it should be possible with out starting the chain saw. Kenny. ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 17:25:21 EDT To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: Kr2dream@aol.com Subject: Cleaners Message-ID: <9b.4e5f246.264dd0c1@aol.com> A short time ago there was discussion regarding solvents and someone mentioned methyl chloroform. I have been using this with excellent results for a long time but went to get more today and was told that the EPA has blocked all production of methyl chloroform under the name of trichloroethelyne. Is there another name I could be looking under? Thanks Bob Lasecki Chicago ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 18:18:16 -0500 To: "Mark Jones" From: "Edwin Blocher" Cc: Subject: Re: KR> 2000 KR Gathering Message-ID: <003a01bfbc68$5c67f240$5589aec7@preinstalledcom> IF YOU ARE NOT INTERESTED IN ANYTHING ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS HIT DELETE. IT RELLY WORKS. I wpold suggest reading some of it though. You might be like me and learn something. ED Ed Blocher Moody, AL mailto: kr-n899eb@mindspring.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark Jones Cc: Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2000 5:02 PM Subject: Re: KR> 2000 KR Gathering > Hi Richard, > Glad to see I am not the only person on the KR-Net who likes to help others > find needed parts. This morning I posted an Ebay ad about a Corvair engine > crankshaft which is a needed part by several KR builders. Well, I received a > personal e-mail from &#%&%#($@aol.com (won't disclose who it is, don't want > to embarrass them) and was slammed by this person and told not to make such > post again. He stated if people on the Net need parts they will find them!!! > Even stated on a second post that I must have a vested interest in this. We > are here to help each other. Just hope you don't get slammed too!!! > Mark Jones > > Richard Parker wrote: > > > I saw this item for sale at eBay, the world's largest personal > > trading community, and thought that you might be interested. > > > > Title of item: 2 Bing Carburetors > > Price: Starts at $5.00 > > To bid on the item, go to: > > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=329479350 > > > > Item Description: > > 2 Bing Carburetors with progressive linkage. Floatless, can be > > mounted in any position. Never used. Great for VW, Subaru, > > Corvair, powered experimentals etc. > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > -- > Mark Jones (N886MJ) > Waukesha, WI USA > mailto:flykr2s@execpc.com > Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at > http://sites.netscape.net/flykr2s/homepage > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 22:24:13 -0400 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: david barner Subject: posa Message-ID: <391CBCCD.10026715@frognet.net> Is there any to run the overflow back to the tank. I really hate to have fuel run out of the carb before starting or will it just run into the air cleaner. I've heard of people running an electric fuel pump, wouldn't it run out the overflow also? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 21:12:26 -0700 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: Mike Mims Subject: Re: KR> posa Message-ID: <391CD62A.CF837604@home.com> david barner wrote: > > Is there any to run the overflow back to the tank. I really hate to have > fuel run out of the carb before starting or will it just run into the > air cleaner. I've heard of people running an electric fuel pump, > wouldn't it run out the overflow also? POSAs and Revflows are gravity feed only, no fuel pumps. -- __________________ Micheal Mims Trying to get this thing done! http://www.fortunecity.com/marina/anchor/270/ http://explanes.com/ Aliso Viejo Ca ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 09:25:48 -0700 To: , From: "Joe Beyer" Subject: Re: KR> posa Message-ID: <000701bfbc2e$bc53f6c0$3741b23f@earthlink.net> Hi Dave: Use the fuel shut off valve during you start up sequence. Turn the valve on (with the throttle full open) for three seconds, then shut it off. Close the throttle. Next crack the throttle open about 1/8", switch on and start. My experience with the Posa is that it will never start with the fuel on. It floods every time. mailto:joejbeyer@earthlink.net Portland, Ore. ----- Original Message ----- From: david barner To: Sent: Friday, May 12, 2000 7:24 PM Subject: KR> posa > Is there any to run the overflow back to the tank. I really hate to have > fuel run out of the carb before starting or will it just run into the > air cleaner. I've heard of people running an electric fuel pump, > wouldn't it run out the overflow also? > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 May 2000 11:27:20 -0400 To: , From: "w.g. kirkland" Subject: Re: KR> posa Message-Id: <200005131528.LAA00097@vianet.on.ca> ------=_NextPart_000_01BFBCCE.3392B240 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dave; with most fuel injected systems there is a return line to the tank from the pressure regulator. I've made provision for a return line built into my tank because I expect to be running a MPFI EA 81. W.G.(Bill) KIRKLAND kirkland@vianet.on.ca ---------- > From: david barner > To: krnet@mailinglists.org > Subject: KR> posa > Date: Friday, May 12, 2000 10:24 PM > > Is there any to run the overflow back to the tank. I really hate to have > fuel run out of the carb before starting or will it just run into the > air cleaner. I've heard of people running an electric fuel pump, > wouldn't it run out the overflow also? > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org ------=_NextPart_000_01BFBCCE.3392B240-- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 May 2000 19:22:58 -0500 To: Joe Beyer From: The Muses CC: skypilot@frognet.net, krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> posa Message-ID: <391DF1E1.3C2ED4AA@ev1.net> Joe Beyer wrote: > Hi Dave: Use the fuel shut off valve during you start up sequence. Turn the > valve on (with the throttle full open) for three seconds, then shut it off. > Close the throttle. Next crack the throttle open about 1/8", switch on and > start. My experience with the Posa is that it will never start with the fuel > on. It floods every time. > mailto:joejbeyer@earthlink.net Portland, Ore. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: david barner > To: > Sent: Friday, May 12, 2000 7:24 PM > Subject: KR> posa > > > Is there any to run the overflow back to the tank. I really hate to have > > fuel run out of the carb before starting or will it just run into the > > air cleaner. I've heard of people running an electric fuel pump, > > wouldn't it run out the overflow also? Joe, Since I changed to a Subaru gear-drived starter on my 2100D VW w/a POSA Supercarb, I don't have that problem of flooding. It starts every time with no problems and no flooding. I been flying for six years and never had a flooding problem. I did have problems before the Subaru starter. Bobby Muse ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 May 2000 07:16:59 -0700 To: From: "Joe Beyer" Cc: , Subject: Re: KR> posa Message-ID: <000901bfbce5$f58aa4e0$fd40b23f@earthlink.net> Hi Bobby: I still do things the old fashioned way, ie. handprop. Mine always starts up on the first or second pull as long as I don't deviate from my procedures. It's always hard starting right after shutdown. When it cools down then it starts easily. I've got a Bendix mag. with an impluse coupeling. mailto:joejbeyer@earthlink.net Portland, Ore. ----- Original Message ----- From: The Muses To: Joe Beyer Cc: ; Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2000 5:22 PM Subject: Re: KR> posa > Joe Beyer wrote: > > > Hi Dave: Use the fuel shut off valve during you start up sequence. Turn the > > valve on (with the throttle full open) for three seconds, then shut it off. > > Close the throttle. Next crack the throttle open about 1/8", switch on and > > start. My experience with the Posa is that it will never start with the fuel > > on. It floods every time. > > mailto:joejbeyer@earthlink.net Portland, Ore. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: david barner > > To: > > Sent: Friday, May 12, 2000 7:24 PM > > Subject: KR> posa > > > > > Is there any to run the overflow back to the tank. I really hate to have > > > fuel run out of the carb before starting or will it just run into the > > > air cleaner. I've heard of people running an electric fuel pump, > > > wouldn't it run out the overflow also? > > Joe, Since I changed to a Subaru gear-drived starter on my 2100D VW w/a POSA > Supercarb, I don't have that problem of flooding. It starts every time with no > problems and no flooding. I been flying for six years and never had a flooding > problem. I did have problems before the Subaru starter. > > Bobby Muse > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 May 2000 20:58:29 +0200 To: "Leonardo" From: "FLAMINIA PATERNO" Cc: Subject: R: KR> R: KR> O-200 Message-ID: <001901bfbd0d$3b087de0$8ccbabd4@oemcomputer> Ciao Leonardo my propeller is 152 cm but do not know the pitch yet: I am having a new one made and it should be ready within days. To have all the informations you need you can look at the site of the manufacturer and ask them directly. Ask for Giancarlo he is building a KR2 too. www.GT-propellers.com Camillo KR2-S Italy ----- Original Message ----- From: Leonardo To: FLAMINIA PATERNO Sent: Monday, May 08, 2000 2:07 PM Subject: Re: KR> R: KR> O-200 > hello there . > ive forgothem to ask .what prop you guys are using . this info is very > important for me . > thanks. > Leo,Brazil , kr2s > -----Mensagem original----- > De: FLAMINIA PATERNO > Para: Leonardo > Cc: krnet@mailinglists.org > Data: Sábado, 6 de Maio de 2000 18:35 > Assunto: KR> R: KR> O-200 > > > >Ciao Leonardo > >i fly with some friends om mine in Tuscany KR2S with continental O200 > >engine: the weight of the planes (3 up to now) varies between 320 and 340 > >kilos, which would not allow two people to fly with a single drop of fuel. > >We have asked Rand Robinson if the MTOW could have been higher and the > >answer was basically no; 1050 lbs should be the real gross with limited > >g-forces (4,5 g if my memory works well). > >Regarding engine mount we have all bought it directly from Rand Robinson. > >CG is within the limits, but very close to the front. I have a prop > >extension and that does not help; to keep the tail on the ground I had to > >add 2 kg of lead over the tailweel mount. Having such a light tailweel > >caused me some serious problems landing on a wet field, few weeks ago, > while > >stall characteristics were allways very good. > >I hope this few notes can be helpfull, and me too would like to hear about > >other builders experiences > >Camillo KR2S Italy > > > > > > > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Leonardo > >To: Ross Youngblood ; > >Cc: KRNET > >Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2000 10:31 PM > >Subject: Re: KR> O-200 > > > > > >> hello kr people > >> > >> After searching for a long time for a engine to my kr2s i,ve decided to > >> change the vw the was already installed in my beauty , to a continental > >> o-200 . the engine is in my garage and now comes the most dificult part > . > >> engine mount, cg location , nose heavy , new cowl and lots of things. > well > >> ,what i really need is help from you guys. > >> topics: > >> 1)- will i need to put weigth on the tail ? > >> 2) - what prop to use ,since i had a 54x52 on 75 hp and now 100 hp and no > >> more than 60" of clearence? 2 blades, 3 blades ? > >> 3)- with 75 lbs more will the plane be good only for one person? (NOW IT > >> WEIGTH IS 660 LBS) > >> > >> if someone knows somebody that flyes this configuration please let know . > >> any coments good or bad are wellcome . > >> thank you all for this kr great comunit. > >> LEO ,KR2S,BRAZIL. > >> > >> > >> > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > >> For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > >> > > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > >For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 May 2000 14:12:46 -0700 To: From: "Bob Sauer" Subject: Test Message-ID: <009701bfbd1f$fd642da0$2a70a1d0@home> ------=_NextPart_000_0094_01BFBCE5.501BE000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Test ------=_NextPart_000_0094_01BFBCE5.501BE000-- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 May 2000 16:21:26 -0500 To: Bob Sauer From: Mark Jones CC: krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> Test Message-ID: <391DC756.DD129B86@execpc.com> Hey Bob, Looks like you got it working now! you should get this reply twice. One direct and one through the Net. Bob Sauer wrote: > Test -- Mark Jones (N886MJ) Waukesha, WI USA (soon to be Wales, WI) mailto:flykr2s@execpc.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://sites.netscape.net/flykr2s/homepage ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 May 2000 21:36:24 -0500 To: bmuse@ev1.net From: FRED SMITH CC: Joe Beyer , skypilot@frognet.net, krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: dfly for sale Message-ID: <391E1128.7B568CF1@bushnell.net> Am building KR2S with corvair. Flying Dragonfly with E-81 Soob motor. Got hot because of broken alternator bracket. had to rebuild. Ran great- 42/4400 rpm with no loss of power. had to try out in spite of high winds and not having flown it much for 2 months. coming in at 70/80knts encountered wind shear close to ground with power reduced and was slammed into ground 50/100 ft short of runway. cracked bone in thumb on throttle and pulled some lower back muscles. Thank goodness for seat belt and shoulder harness. this is second time landed short of runway. Wife is insisting that I sell and wait until my KR2S is built with corvair. Guess she doesn't think I will finish.Only problem I have had is more vibration than I like on reduction drive. Motor is E-81 planed aprox..035 with water-heated manifold and soob carb. probably about 80hp. Don't think motor hurt. From what I can tell, simply lost fiberglass legs again, landing in grass. Want to part out. If I don't get any takers will probably fix and sell as unit. I am located in central Ill. Please contact me off the list direct at if you have an interest. thanks, fred smith ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 May 2000 23:07:02 -0700 To: From: "Randy Stout" Subject: -2S Project for sale Message-ID: <002201bfbd6a$a08de4e0$05f5fed1@randysto> ------=_NextPart_000_001F_01BFBD2F.F2E88320 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable After nearly 3 years, I have decided to give up on my KR-2S. Anyone = interested in buying it can check it out at = http://www.geocities.com/r5t0ut21/ . I would prefer to sell the entire = project, but may be persuaded to part it out if it doesn't sell in a = reasonable amount of time. Randy Stout Las Vegas NV mailto:r5t0ut@nv.freei.net ------=_NextPart_000_001F_01BFBD2F.F2E88320-- ------------------------------ End of krnet Digest ***********************************