From: To: Subject: krnet Digest 24 Jun 2000 18:06:52 -0000 Issue 48 Date: Saturday, June 24, 2000 10:07 AM krnet Digest 24 Jun 2000 18:06:52 -0000 Issue 48 Topics (messages 1045 through 1063): Re: Primer 1045 by: Ronald R. Eason spar dimensions 1046 by: dene collett 1047 by: Donald Reid 1049 by: w.g. kirkland good news, bad news... 1048 by: Mark Langford 1050 by: AviationMech.aol.com 1057 by: KR2616TJ.aol.com Revmaster for sale 1051 by: Oscar Zuniga Re: Nose gear assembly 1052 by: michael beck Re: nose gear 1053 by: michael beck Diehl gear casting height? 1054 by: Mark Langford test - disregard 1055 by: John another test 1056 by: John WAFs 1058 by: Mark Langford KR-1 Plans 1059 by: Dave Vieira 1060 by: DONAN5.aol.com KR2S PLANS 1061 by: Boyers Elevator hanger rash 1062 by: The House of D's Re: KR Gathering 1063 by: ROBERT COOPER Administrivia: To subscribe to the digest, e-mail: To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail: To post to the list, e-mail: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 13:29:10 -0500 To: , , From: "Ronald R. Eason" Subject: Re: KR> Primer Message-ID: <000a01bfdc77$c3b06700$797239ce@winbook> Terry, To help the paint to flow into pin holes add a little RETARDER to the paint before spraying. It will slow down the drying process without effecting workability. KRRon -----Original Message----- From: RFG842@aol.com To: Chitl@southwind.net ; krnet@mailinglists.org Date: Thursday, June 22, 2000 8:31 AM Subject: KR> Primer >Terry > >Stopped and talked to the owner of Auto Masters here in Derby. They are known >for the paint on show cars. They repaired a door on my 450SL after I came >back and found it dented in a parking lot. Beautiful repair job. > >Said they switched to Sherwin Williams paint several years ago. Better >consistant quality than Dupont and easier to use. > >April issue of Kitplanes had an article on finishing fibreglas and suggested >useing Sherwin Williams primer Ultra Fill P2A43. Fromulated for fibreglas. >Local store carries quarts for $24.70 and Gallons for 75.12. > >Article also mentioned a product from US Chemical & Plastics called Thin Ice. > Said to cover pin holes and minor problems, pours like motor oil and dries >in 20 minutes. Product number is 26030. Still looking for it. > >Thanks again for the chance to fly your KR2. Haven't had so much fun in an >airplane in years. > >Bob > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org >To unsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org >For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 20:58:03 +0200 To: krnet From: dene collett Subject: spar dimensions Message-id: <000501bfdbb2$c5b50620$538a19c4@denec> Hi there KR-heads I have run into a problem with constructing my wing centre main spar. My plane is not exactly as per KR plans but I do not considder myself competent enough to design my own spars so I managed to lay my hands on a very old KR manual to build my spars from. On page 10 there is a drawing of the centre main spar cap with a dimension of 83". Below it is a drawing of the whole spar with all the dimensions for the compression braces. I have built my spar as per this drawing only to find that if you add up the dimensions given, you don`t get 83". (7.5+7+5+10+10)*2 = 79". If you add in the .25" for half the thickness of the outer compression brace on each side, you get 79.5". My question is: 1: only one half of the spar has been built and the caps are not yet trimmed to length (was going to trim to length after closing up), will it make any difference if I add another compression brace outboard of the existing ones at the correct location to bring the spar to the correct dimension? 2: Even if I do the above, the other compression braces are now all out by a compounding error of roughly 0.5", will this have any negative effect on the strength of the spar? Any comments and suggestions would be appreciated. Dene Collett South Africa denec@netactive.co.za ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 17:25:53 -0400 To: dene collett ,krnet From: Donald Reid Subject: Re: KR> spar dimensions Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.20000622171841.0095b370@pop.erols.com> --=====================_1688670==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed The spacing of internal braces are not extremely critical; however, there may be a problem. If I understand the proposed setup, the upper and lower cap strips would not extend to the end of the spar, but I am not sure about your description. If this is your intention, this would be a mistake. Have you considered leaving the center section shorter by the four inches and then shortening the rear spar by a corresponding amount? The spar would be marginally stronger and four inches would not affect the performance. >On page 10 there is a drawing of the centre main spar cap with a dimension >of 83". Below it is a drawing of the whole spar with all the dimensions for >the compression braces. I have built my spar as per this drawing only to >find that if you add up the dimensions given, you don`t get 83". >(7.5+7+5+10+10)*2 = 79". If you add in the .25" for half the thickness of >the outer compression brace on each side, you get 79.5". >My question is: >1: only one half of the spar has been built and the caps are not yet trimmed >to length (was going to trim to length after closing up), will it make any >difference if I add another compression brace outboard of the existing ones >at the correct location to bring the spar to the correct dimension? >2: Even if I do the above, the other compression braces are now all out by a >compounding error of roughly 0.5", will this have any negative effect on the >strength of the spar? Don Reid mailto:donreid@erols.com Bumpass, Va KR2XL at http://www.erols.com/donreid/kr_page.htm USUA Club 250 at http://www.erols.com/donreid/usua250.html --=====================_1688670==_.ALT-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 01:00:02 -0400 To: "dene collett" , "krnet" From: "w.g. kirkland" Subject: Re: KR> spar dimensions Message-Id: <200006230458.AAA00124@dreams.vianet.on.ca> ------=_NextPart_000_01BFDCAE.5C773640 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dene; my book shows 7.5 7.5, 9, 9, 9, =42 x 2 =84. I think Rand just made a bit of a drafting error. The spacing won't matter if they are off by 1/2" or so but bear in mind that some of ur cables pass thru the centre part of the spar. The ends of the spar have to accept the landing gear but the bolts go thru the cap. It would be a good idea to have one of the compression braces where the spar goes thru the fuselage as this is where most of the load from the wing is transferred to the fuselage. If in doubt just add an extra brace. W.G.(Bill) KIRKLAND kirkland@vianet.on.ca ---------- > From: dene collett > To: krnet > Subject: KR> spar dimensions > Date: Wednesday, June 21, 2000 2:58 PM > > Hi there KR-heads > I have run into a problem with constructing my wing centre main spar. My > plane is not exactly as per KR plans but I do not considder myself competent > enough to design my own spars so I managed to lay my hands on a very old KR > manual to build my spars from. > On page 10 there is a drawing of the centre main spar cap with a dimension > of 83". Below it is a drawing of the whole spar with all the dimensions for > the compression braces. I have built my spar as per this drawing only to > find that if you add up the dimensions given, you don`t get 83". > (7.5+7+5+10+10)*2 = 79". If you add in the .25" for half the thickness of > the outer compression brace on each side, you get 79.5". > My question is: > 1: only one half of the spar has been built and the caps are not yet trimmed > to length (was going to trim to length after closing up), will it make any > difference if I add another compression brace outboard of the existing ones > at the correct location to bring the spar to the correct dimension? > 2: Even if I do the above, the other compression braces are now all out by a > compounding error of roughly 0.5", will this have any negative effect on the > strength of the spar? > > Any comments and suggestions would be appreciated. > Dene Collett > South Africa > denec@netactive.co.za > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org > To unsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org ------=_NextPart_000_01BFDCAE.5C773640-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 20:46:37 -0500 To: From: "Mark Langford" Subject: good news, bad news... Message-ID: <007301bfdcb4$deccc910$a5f780ce@300emachine> KRNetHeads, Well, I've got good news and bad news, and bad news and good news. First the good news is that the house is finally drying out after the big plumbing induced flood. Bad news is that at about the time it dried out, the icemaker line behind the refrigerator ruptured, and we did it all over again, but soaked a different part of the basement. And yes, we have a pressure regulator on our supply line. But then that's not really the bad news. The bad news is that while riding my mountain bike Sunday (to stay "healthy") a dog chased me, got ahead of me, and then did the old 90 degree turn in front of me, resulting in a trip over the handlebars at fairly high speed. The good news is that I had a helmet on and avoided a brain concussion, but the bad news is I broke my collarbone in two places. At the ER they found what appeared to be another fracture in my scapula on the X-ray, which a CT scan later showed to be a lesion. This was both good and bad news, as I now didn't have to have surgery to repair my shoulder, but what's with this lesion thing? The good news is that it's probably benign, but will require observation. Other good news is that I'm out of the sling and into this "butterfly" sling that will eventually allow me to use both hands (at least for typing and mouse clicking). Bottom line is 6 weeks of not using my right arm for much of anything. The other bad news is that TBE lost the USAF contract for the aircraft loader that I've been working on for 2 years. But as far as KR work goes, that's really GOOD news! Due to typical management shortsightedness I was expecting to have to work a whole bunch of overtime on the loader for the next year, effectively putting my KR on hold. In fact, I HAD planned to take much of the months of May and June off and work on the nothing but finish work on the KR, but stomping out fires on other contracts has kept me from it. Now, I'm pretty sure I'll finish my plane up by next summer. And I'll probably get to go back to my old job, which is more as TBE's CAD system administrator rather than mechanical design engineer. I've got a lot of catching up to do, as I've let the CAD system go to the dogs over the last two years. There's nothing quite like a job where you're expected to come to work and do whatever YOU think needs to be done, and everybody loves you for it! In other "good news", Jeanie took me and the other kids up to Troy's hangar in Columbia today so I could take a few pictures of his KR for the upcoming Contact! magazine article on the new airfoil. He is thrilled with it, and lacks only some finishing work on the cowling and a paint job before he's done. He took both of my kids for a ride and they were thoroughly impressed! One shot is at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/00062203s.jpg and others will follow. This cowling is what has to happen to a Revmaster cowling when you stuff a C-85 under it. These were all taken upside down and rotated later on the computer, since I had to frame and shoot them with my left hand. Troy swears by his smaller elevator, saying that he still has plenty of authority when landing and rotating out. He also reiterated that it slows down more quickly when landing (in ground effect) due to increased drag on the new wing at high incidences, and climbout is now at a more comfortable 100k. Liftoff is at about the same distance as before (even though he's 90 pounds heavier now), but he now runs it up to 100k to climb out rather than 80 as he did with the RAF48. He likes the climb out at the higher speed since it also increases cooling. The results were simliar even when he still had the VW but was using the new airfoil. Top speed is the big difference with the increase in power he gets from the C-85. As mentioned before, his power off stall speed has gone from 47k with the RAF48 to 49k with the AS5046, which makes sense considering his airplane's gained 90 pounds since then... Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama mailto:langford@hiwaay.net see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 10:15:56 EDT To: langford@hiwaay.net, krnet@mailinglists.org From: AviationMech@aol.com Subject: Re: KR> good news, bad news... Message-ID: <61.4c7f49f.2684cb1c@aol.com> In a message dated 6/22/00 9:49:20 PM Eastern Daylight Time, langford@hiwaay.net writes: > Troy's hangar > in Columbia today so I could take a few pictures of his KR for the upcoming Sorry to hear about your misfortunes. I guess it doesn't have to rain to pour. Here's wishing you a speedy recovery and return to your KR. Troy and the wing are of great interest. Do you have, or can you get other details like gross wt and ft/min climb. speeds and things like that. A&P with Inspection Authorization aviationmech@aol.com http://members.aol.com/aviationmech ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 22:28:19 EDT To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: KR2616TJ@aol.com Subject: Re: KR> good news, bad news... Message-ID: <5b.799ceed.268576c3@aol.com> In a message dated 6/22/00 9:49:02 PM Eastern Daylight Time, langford@hiwaay.net writes: << Bottom line is 6 weeks of not using my right arm for much of anything. >> OH, I can see it coming.....................maybe it's time for another Langfordkosh at Langford Manor:-). Seriously, guys if you haven't seen Mark's airplane in person it makes for a great weekend. Maybe we could invite Melody Mountains again (old timer joke:-). You up for some "helping hands" Mark? Guys, you must make your reservations at Lake Barkley for the gathering before the end of the third week in July to guarantee you have will have a room at the lodge. It's time to make you call. Another I really need to know (remember hit "reply all") are we going to put on any forums on Friday evening? It time to start putting together the forum data for Saturday. If someone, anyone is willing to stand up and share some of your personal knowledge, we all would appreciate it. Remember, it's your gathering and it's up to us all to have as great a time as possible. I know I had a great time putting it on last year. In light of the changing GPS environment, I am going to be putting a forum on regarding helpful hints in the use of handhelds in addition to the Smooth Prime forum. Time to hold some hands up and volunteer. You can check out the area at the following address or lets hear from some of the "satisfied customers" from last year:-) BTW, Mims that trailer park thing was a riot:-) http://www.state.ky.us/agencies/parks/lakebark.htm Dana Overall 2000 KR Gathering host Richmond, KY mailto:kr2616tj@aol.com http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/hangar/7085/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 08:27:14 PDT To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: "Oscar Zuniga" Subject: Revmaster for sale Message-ID: <20000623152714.5798.qmail@hotmail.com> G'day, group- I am helping a friend try to sell a complete, firewall-forward setup out of a Q2. It's a Revmaster 2100 with the forged crank, complete with every little thing from spinner back to firewall and more. Oil filter, oil cooler, carb, intake and exhaust manifolds, baffling, ignition, instrumentation, engine mount, everything. It also includes an unused/unfinished premolded cowling for the Q2, as well as the complete instrument panel with wiring and many flight and engine instruments and engine controls. What happened was that a nearly-completed Q2 project was being towed to the airport by the tailwheel for engine testing, hit some ruts or something, and broke the airframe in two in the middle, damaging the prop as well. The only engine time (I am told) is factory run-in of 1 hr.; I think the asking price for the whole thing is $2500, but not sure yet because I'm not the one selling it. I will be getting some photos in the next week or so. Anybody interested can call Jeff Sterling at (541)826-2294 or fax 826-3443; it's an Oregon number. I will post here when I have photos. In the meantime, if you want to see Jeff's awesome STOL Super Pacer, I have a page up at http://www.geocities.com/taildrags/sterling.html Oscar Zuniga Medford, Oregon mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.geocities.com/taildrags/ ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 10:08:36 -0700 (PDT) To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: michael beck Subject: Fwd: Re: Nose gear assembly Message-ID: <20000623170836.8107.qmail@web3105.mail.yahoo.com> --0-1189641421-961780116=:5900 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline After much thought, and not liking the bent snorkel look to the Deihl nosegear, I contacted Pulsar as was also suggested by another builder a couple of weeks ago. I received this reply. Note: forwarded message attached. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ --0-1189641421-961780116=:5900 Content-Type: message/rfc822 X-Apparently-To: kr2s2000@yahoo.com via web3102.mail.yahoo.com X-Track: 1: 40 Received: from maynard.mail.mindspring.net (207.69.200.243) by mta107.mail.yahoo.com with SMTP; 20 Jun 2000 23:10:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from server (user-2inism6.dialup.mindspring.com [165.121.114.198]) by maynard.mail.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with SMTP id CAA11055 for ; Wed, 21 Jun 2000 02:08:25 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <000601bfdb35$b012b970$016fa8c0@server> From: "Wil Chavez" To: "michael beck" References: <20000620231040.22674.qmail@web3103.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Nose gear assembly Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 23:03:02 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Content-Length: 1266 Mike, Are you speaking of the nose gear on the Super Pulsar 100, or the retrofit we are offer the original Pulsar builders, and was a standard item on the Pulsar III. We would be interested in seeing how this would attach to your aircraft. If possible send us some sketches or pictures of your aircraft and current nose gear. Thank You, Wil Chavez wil@pulsaraircraft.com ----- Original Message ----- From: michael beck To: pulsar Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2000 6:10 PM Subject: Nose gear assembly > Dear sirs > I am a KR2S builder, and I am very interested in > your nose gear assembly. In looking thru your company > website I noticed that you do not list anything less > than a complete kit. I have seen some interest in your > nosegear on the KRnet email system, and I think that > there is a market for this item. It will be some > months before I am ready to buy, but if you are > interested in selling this item separately I will let > the other 350 builders on the net know. > Thank You and Blue Skies > Mike Beck > Sedro Woolley, WA > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Send instant messages with Yahoo! Messenger. > http://im.yahoo.com/ > > --0-1189641421-961780116=:5900-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 10:09:17 -0700 (PDT) To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: michael beck Subject: Fwd: nose gear Message-ID: <20000623170917.20722.qmail@web3103.mail.yahoo.com> --0-719885386-961780157=:19339 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Note: forwarded message attached. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ --0-719885386-961780157=:19339 Content-Type: message/rfc822 X-Apparently-To: kr2s2000@yahoo.com via web3106.mail.yahoo.com Received: from smtp10.atl.mindspring.net (207.69.200.246) by mta109.mail.yahoo.com with SMTP; 23 Jun 2000 00:26:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from server (user-38ldnhf.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.222.47]) by smtp10.atl.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with SMTP id DAA01398 for ; Fri, 23 Jun 2000 03:26:27 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <008f01bfdcd2$e87cd040$016fa8c0@server> From: "Wil Chavez" To: Subject: nose gear Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 00:21:37 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_008C_01BFDCA8.FE735150" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Content-Length: 7223 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_008C_01BFDCA8.FE735150 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mike,=20 This evening I went to your builders web sites, I actually see what = your describing in your e-mail. I immediately went to our builders manual and you could actually install our landing gear without = having to weld anything. The nose gear on the Pulsar is a bolt on item and can possibly be for you and your fellow builders too. = I have talked about this with one of the owners. His initial thought was = that the gear might be to long or tall for the KR2.=20 I will try to briefly explain how the nose gear is attached, behind = the firewall are two aluminum angles, that have been lightened and machined. The builder will need to cut two slotted holes immediately = aft the firewall or firewall attach points, the purpose for the slotted holes is to allow the two aluminum angles to drop down through = these slotted holes, what I haven't mentioned is that the 2 angles have = had one leg machined off the part that is exposed below the fuse and = firewall, with the firewall installed it appears as if two flat bars are actually extending from behind the firewall. I = don't have much on the size of angles just yet, but I can give you the following info: The angles are exactly 7" apart the center of the fuse being 3.50" in = from either angle, this will also give you the dimension of the nose gear trunnion that is attached between these two angle = extensions.=20 Another dimensional reference point is from the top of the fuse at the = firewall to the center of the holes that will receive the shaft and nose gear trunnion is 23.125" Moving down from the above attach point, there is an attach point for = the nose gear shock strut, and at the top of the strut is=20 the engine mount weldment. which is a part of the engine mount. when = attached to theses two points and sitting on the main and nose gear a = level is put on the cabins side rail to verify proper installation. I = see this working for you and your fellow builders, if any welding needs = to be done it will be on your engine mount, where the shock strut meets = the engine mount weldment. I hope this makes sense to you, if not I will try again. I will put = together a list of items or kit that will come close to what you will = need to retrofit your nosegear, we actually sell retrofit kits to the older = Pulsar owners, they actually have to send their nose gear in to have it welded, we have worked out an exchange program with those builders in = Europe.=20 Get back to me, with your ideas and thoughts on this issue. Best Regards, wil@pulsaraircraft.com =20 ------=_NextPart_000_008C_01BFDCA8.FE735150 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Mike,
    This evening I went = to your=20 builders web sites, I actually see what your describing in your e-mail. = I=20 immediately went to our
builders manual and you could actually = install our=20 landing gear without having to weld anything. The nose gear on the = Pulsar=20 is
a bolt on item and can possibly be for = you and your=20 fellow builders too. I have talked about this with one of the owners. = His=20 initial thought was that the gear = might be to=20 long or tall for the KR2.
 
    I will try to = briefly explain=20 how the nose gear is attached, behind the firewall are two aluminum = angles, that=20 have been lightened
and machined. The builder will need to = cut two=20 slotted holes immediately aft the firewall or firewall attach points, = the=20 purpose for the
slotted holes is to allow the two = aluminum angles=20 to drop down through these slotted holes, what I haven't mentioned is = that the 2=20 angles have had one leg machined off the part that is exposed below the = fuse and=20 firewall, with the firewall installed it appears as
if two flat bars are actually extending = from behind=20 the firewall. I don't have much on the size of angles just yet, but I = can give=20 you
the following info:
 
The angles are exactly 7" apart the = center of the=20 fuse being 3.50" in from either angle, this will also give you the=20 dimension
of the nose gear trunnion that is = attached between=20 these two angle extensions.
Another dimensional reference point is = from the top=20 of the fuse at the firewall to the center of the holes that will receive = the=20 shaft
and nose gear trunnion is = 23.125"
 
Moving down from the above attach = point, there is=20 an attach point for the nose gear shock strut, and at the top of = the strut=20 is
the engine mount weldment. which is a = part of the=20 engine mount. when attached to theses two points and sitting=20 on the main  and nose gear = a level is=20 put on the cabins side rail to verify proper installation. I see = this=20 working for you and your fellow builders, if any welding needs to be = done it=20 will be on your engine mount, where the shock strut meets the = engine mount=20 weldment.
 
I hope this makes sense to you, if not = I will try=20 again. I will put together a list of items or kit that will come = close to=20 what you will need
to retrofit your nosegear, we actually = sell=20 retrofit kits to the older Pulsar owners, they actually have to send = their nose=20 gear in to have
it welded, we have worked out an = exchange program=20 with those builders in Europe.
 
Get back to me, with your ideas and = thoughts on=20 this issue.
 
Best Regards,
 
wil@pulsaraircraft.com<= /DIV>
 
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_008C_01BFDCA8.FE735150-- --0-719885386-961780157=:19339-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 16:36:26 -0500 To: From: "Mark Langford" Subject: Diehl gear casting height? Message-ID: <006701bfdd5b$16368f20$a5f780ce@300emachine> GearHeads, Can somebody (or better yet, several people) with a Diehl gear leg bracket laying around (the big one that bolts to the main spar) measure it and tell me how tall it is? And does it have mounting holes for the spar caps drilled in it already upon receipt? Dr. Dean designed a new gear leg bracket for his AS5048 installation, and we were considering offering it for sale, so I started looking at the Diehl castings, but I'm getting real confused between the hand sketches and RR "installation drawings" (Figure 1 of LM-1 Main Gear Installation) dimensions. I've been told that the casting is 6.625" tall, but the sketch shows 7" (but it's obviously a rough tracing). But if you drill the holes on 6" centers (per the RR drawing) with the 6.625 tall casting, you're out of edge distance, so can somebody shed some light on this? Email me privately, if you wish, but the thing I need most is several casting heights from different folks. I'd measure mine, but it's kinda buried inside the wing now, and I sawed some of mine off anyway for my particular variation. This is just one of many areas where the plans are completely nebulous, and where folks start to get the impression that "I can do whatever I want, since the plans show several different possible interpretations, and if any of them had been dangerous, they'd have been sure to have corrected it by now"... Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama mailto:langford@hiwaay.net see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 15:34:15 -0600 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: John Subject: test - disregard Message-Id: <00062315344400.03445@Y2krsoob> testing after upgrading to Mandrake linux.. test test -- John Los Alamos NM jeb@thuntek.net http://www.thuntek.net/~jeb/krpage.htm ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 17:06:32 -0600 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: John Subject: another test Message-Id: <00062317065901.04766@sf1-033> test test test I think it's working now. jeb@thuntek.net ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 21:50:36 -0500 To: From: "Mark Langford" Subject: WAFs Message-ID: <008001bfdd86$f95d2310$a5f780ce@300emachine> KRNetHeads, It's Friday, so maybe I can get away with a little TET announcement. We've been getting a lot of requests for wing attach fittings (WAFs) and we've decided it's time to do another set. So let me know (privately) if you want to get on the list. You don't have to send a check immediately but don't say you want them if you don't. Just keep in mind that we don't do these very often, we won't make many extra sets, and there's more information on them at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/tet/ . Don't expect much of a reply from me, as typing with one hand is kinda new to me... Thanks, Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama mailto:langford@hiwaay.net see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 08:33:31 -0700 (PDT) To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: Dave Vieira Subject: KR-1 Plans Message-ID: <20000624153331.15058.qmail@web1002.mail.yahoo.com> Hey, I'm looking for plans for KR-1? Thanks ===== Dave Vieira Ontario, Canada __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 12:01:42 EDT To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: DONAN5@aol.com Subject: Re: KR> KR-1 Plans Message-ID: <67.5e2e37c.26863566@aol.com> THOUGHT i MIGHT ASK YOU KR2 GUYS THIS QUESTION. HOPEFULLY SOMEONE HAS EXPERIENCE IN THIS. > I have someone working a heat tape trial for me for my posa. > With the posa in my sonerai facing down into the clear air there is no way to > put carb heat on it. > this worries me a little. > I saw that bing made a electric heater for their carbs... > So I contacted someone selling industrial heat tapes... > The battery in my sonerai is an 18 amp hr > and I think this might work if I am smart enought to turn it on in advance of > landing by a few seconds. > I also have a carb temp probe in the throat of my posa to let me know what is > going on. > > I intend to seal the heat tape over with a fiberglass wrap to keep the thing > water resistant. > If anybody has any interest or knowledge on this email back with your results. > the company that is working this for me is : > joehyndman@hyndmanheatingelements.com > > I am sure they would be interested in selling more if it infact works > > If anybody has any other ideas on this please let me know. > Thanks ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 11:36:37 -0500 To: From: "Boyers" Subject: KR2S PLANS Message-ID: <000a01bfddfa$5f9620a0$ada24ad1@ou812> ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01BFDDD0.74EBA6C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm looking for the supplement S plans,I have KR2 plans but I want to = build the S.Can anyone help Thanks Kenny ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01BFDDD0.74EBA6C0-- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 12:28:22 -0500 To: From: "The House of D's" Subject: Elevator hanger rash Message-ID: ------=_NextPart_000_0002_01BFDDD7.AFDD8260 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Two "chips" have occurred on the trailing edge of my elevator exposing the foam. I did not build my KR so I do not have the original instructions on sealing the foam like a couple of notes have been talking about lately. Anyone care to share advise on the sealing, filling and smoothing the wounds? ------=_NextPart_000_0002_01BFDDD7.AFDD8260-- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 14:05:33 -0400 To: , From: "ROBERT COOPER" Subject: Re: KR> KR Gathering Message-ID: <002801bfde06$ccbd6ec0$039b1c3f@pavilion> KR netters Last years KR Gathering was my first. I had a great time, enjoyed meeting a lot of people whom we hear from on the net, and learned a lot by looking at flying KR's and talking to the owners and builders, and attending the forums. Last year I hadn't even started building so this year I have even more questions and will be taking more pictures of different building techniques. The park is a beautiful setting which I videoed so my wife could see it. She is planning on coming with me this year even though she doesn't care to look at KR's, she enjoys being in beautiful serene settings. I can't imagine anyone building a KR or just thinking of building one not coming to the KR Gathering. Make a decision now to attend then you will find a way to be there. Jack Cooper kr2cooper@msn.com http://www.geocities.com/kr2cooper/ Fayetteville, NC. ------------------------------ End of krnet Digest ***********************************