From: To: Subject: krnet Digest 4 Aug 2000 01:48:51 -0000 Issue 68 Date: Thursday, August 03, 2000 5:49 PM krnet Digest 4 Aug 2000 01:48:51 -0000 Issue 68 Topics (messages 1485 through 1498): Re: Retract locks. 1485 by: GARYKR2.cs.com 1491 by: GARYKR2.cs.com 1492 by: Steven Vitrella Re: Polimeric materials for KR 1486 by: Eduardo Iglesias 1488 by: Mark Langford e-bay Corvair engine 1487 by: Frank Ross Web Page Update 1489 by: Mark Jones KR2S PLANS FOR SALE 1490 by: Neal Hinson Lycoming 0-290 fr sale 1493 by: Mike Mims Will it fly 1494 by: AviationMech.aol.com 1495 by: Kenneth L Wiltrout 1498 by: AviationMech.aol.com thrust line? 1496 by: Mark Langford Dynel 1497 by: Robert Stone Administrivia: To subscribe to the digest, e-mail: To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail: To post to the list, e-mail: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 21:31:50 EDT To: kr2cooper@email.msn.com, jfdewet@intekom.co.za, krnet@mailinglists.org From: GARYKR2@cs.com Subject: Re: KR> Retract locks. Message-ID: <9a.7dfdf95.26b8d406@cs.com> In a message dated 7/31/00 2:35:09 PM Eastern Daylight Time, kr2cooper@email.msn.com writes: << Sounds like you have joined the other group of pilots, "Those who have made a gear up landing." Well at least your gear was down for the landing. Easy repairs, even the ego. >> The only time that my gear failed was when I forgot to lower it. That ranks in the top 10 dumbest things I ever did. There are those that have, and those that will. The problem was that my head was "UP AND LOCKED." Other than that, my down locks (standard type) work fine. Gary Hinkle(A&P) Middletown, Pa. garykr2@cs.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 20:25:52 EDT To: svitrella@hotmail.com, krnet@mailinglists.org From: GARYKR2@cs.com Subject: Re: KR> Retract locks. Message-ID: In a message dated 8/1/00 4:26:19 PM Eastern Daylight Time, svitrella@hotmail.com writes: << Sorry to hear your misfortune Kobus. Here's a simple retract gear locking mechanism that I installed in my KR2 to prevent the collapse of the gear in the even that the primary locks jumped or failed. http://kr2gear.homestead.com/gear.html Steve Gainesville, FL >> At the risk of getting someone cheesed off, do you really mess around with this pin in flight? I see nothing but an accident waiting to happen with this set up. Just after takeoff,low,slow, fumbling around with a lock pin. This is how people fly into trees, wires, or better yet, the ground. I do not understand how the locks are popping up on there own if you are putting good springs on then. My latches have never moved from there place. And I have been in some Damn Rough fields. If you are at Lake Barkley you will see where I have had to install "dent plates" above the gear on the wing stubs because of the gear punching thru the glass from rough runways. Gary Hinkle (A/P) Middletown, Pa. garykr2@cs.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2000 02:40:21 GMT To: GARYKR2@cs.com, krnet@mailinglists.org From: "Steven Vitrella" Subject: Re: KR> Retract locks. Message-ID: Gary- I don't see how much more effort it would be to search for your landing gear lever tham to search for a pin that is an inch from the lever. Nevertheless, a pilot who is focused and alert is a pilot who is alive. What wasn't shown on the diagram is a guide made of aluminum tubing, just larger than the clevis pin, that has a stop so that the pin will simply slide into place without having to search for the hole. It is a very simple and effective device that takes very little effort. I'm glad you have no fear of your gear failing, but I would rather spend a few seconds on my downwind to insert the pin and save my life and my plane. Steve FL >From: GARYKR2@cs.com >To: svitrella@hotmail.com, krnet@mailinglists.org >Subject: Re: KR> Retract locks. >Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 20:25:52 EDT > >In a message dated 8/1/00 4:26:19 PM Eastern Daylight Time, >svitrella@hotmail.com writes: > ><< Sorry to hear your misfortune Kobus. Here's a simple retract gear >locking > mechanism that I installed in my KR2 to prevent the collapse of the gear >in > the even that the primary locks jumped or failed. > > http://kr2gear.homestead.com/gear.html > > Steve > Gainesville, FL >> > > At the risk of getting someone cheesed off, do you really mess around >with this pin in flight? > I see nothing but an accident waiting to happen with this set up. >Just >after takeoff,low,slow, fumbling around with a lock pin. This is how people >fly into trees, wires, or better yet, the ground. > I do not understand how the locks are popping up on there own if you >are >putting good springs on then. My latches have never moved from there place. >And I have been in some Damn Rough fields. If you are at Lake Barkley you >will see where I have had to install "dent plates" above the gear on the >wing >stubs because of the gear punching thru the glass from rough runways. > Gary Hinkle (A/P) Middletown, Pa. > garykr2@cs.com ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 22:59:15 -0300 To: "KR-net" From: "Eduardo Iglesias" Subject: RE: KR> Polimeric materials for KR Message-ID: <000401bffc28$6c8f8660$471c33c8@EduardoIglesias> >I skipped the part about using a dusk mask. Ross The whole powder that enters into the lung comes out never more! It is necessary to take care of all activity that generates powder and to use mask, to air the enclosures, always. The health goes first. Be carefull. Let us be careful. Enjoy the work Regards Eduardo ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 21:27:57 -0500 To: "KR-net" From: "Mark Langford" Subject: Re: KR> Polimeric materials for KR Message-ID: <004201bffc29$4757d360$a5f780ce@300emachine> > >I skipped the part about using a dusk mask. Eduardo wrote: > mask, to air the enclosures, always. The health goes first. Be carefull. Let > us be careful. Eduardo, I think what Ross meant is that he was going to "skip" the typing involved in reproducing the dust mask warnings on the label. Ross is the only guy I know whose picture was published in the KR Newsletter wearing a dust mask... Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama mailto:langford@hiwaay.net see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 19:22:45 -0700 (PDT) To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: Frank Ross Subject: e-bay Corvair engine Message-ID: <20000802022245.1294.qmail@web4701.mail.yahoo.com> Folks, Someone in Douglas, Maine selling what looks like a good Corvair (95hp)engine, must be picked up by 4 Aug or I'd get it. Good luck. Top bid right now is $11.50 NOT A TYPO! "1966 chevy corvair 95 hp engine 28k miles,with rebuilt carbs,distributor,alternator. resealed. was for an automatic,selling because of moving. quick auction need to be able to pick up before the end of friday aug 4th" Item #396844006. ===== Frank Ross, San Antonio, TX, __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 23:19:02 -0500 To: CorvAIRCRAFT , KR-Net From: Mark Jones Subject: Web Page Update Message-ID: <3987A136.B95F95BF@execpc.com> Hello Friends, I have updated my web page with a few new and clearer photos. Please click on the link below if you would like to visit. Be patient, there are a lot of photos to load up, so it can be slow depending on your system. -- Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at mailto:flykr2s@execpc.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://sites.netscape.net/flykr2s/homepage ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 08:58:55 -0600 To: From: "Neal Hinson" Cc: Subject: KR2S PLANS FOR SALE Message-ID: <001f01bffc92$2f0a6b60$8b5329c0@pavilion> KR2S PLANS FOR SALE, unused, great shape (KR2 W/ Sup) $170 email me at nhh@email.byu.edu neal ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 20:49:15 -0700 To: Steven Vitrella From: Mike Mims CC: krnet@mailinglists.org, Brad Hale , Allan , Adrian , Haris , Jeff Scott , Mark Lougheed , Stan Subject: Lycoming 0-290 fr sale Message-ID: <3988EBBB.BFAF705E@home.com> Thought I would throw this out there one more time. I plan to put it up on Ebay soon but if someone one the list wants it or knows someone who might want it contact me. Please no criticism about the engine. I have a lycoming O-290G that has been converted to aircraft use. 125HP, Prop flange beef up has been added, camshaft has been changed, flange has been machined off front of case, dual bendix mags with new harnesses, light weight alternator, and brand new Ed Sterba 65 X 71 prop. Picture's can be seen at: http://www.fortunecity.com/marina/anchor/270/e16.jpg http://www.fortunecity.com/marina/anchor/270/e19.jpg http://www.fortunecity.com/marina/anchor/270/sterba.jpg I am asking $3000 for everything, buyer is responsable for shipping. Thanks. -- __________________ Micheal Mims Aliso Viejo Ca ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 17:04:35 EDT To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: AviationMech@aol.com Subject: Will it fly Message-ID: The net seems quite today, so I'll take advantage and make an Update for My KR-2, N110LR. The bird has been trying to recover from an engine change and 2 years 7 months of not flying. I have completed the engine change, the carb adjustments, brake changes, fiberglass repairs to this and that and then encountered a weeks worth of bad weather. If the good weather holds tomorrow, I will calibrate the fuel gauge. I also need to do an empty weight check(1984 weight 578, 1994 weight 615) over the years it has gotten heavyer, and may need to go on a diet. How much do you other KR2's weigh??? If all goes well, I should be able take to the runway for some practice and perhaps a few laps around the patch. I expect a little more power as my 2.0 type 4 engine now has 300cc or more displacement. My original top speed was 146MPH. I'm hoping for a bit more speed, and a bit more climb. Holding the brakes, the tail lifts off at around 2500 rpm and should lift really quick on the take off roll. Full static RPM is 3000. I increased the size of the elevator trim tab, and tweaked the shape of the right wing, so I have a few things to flight check. Orma A&P /IA KR builder/driver N110LR aviationmech@aol.com http://members.aol.com/aviationmech ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 20:14:48 -0400 To: AviationMech@aol.com From: Kenneth L Wiltrout Cc: krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> Will it fly Message-ID: <20000803.201450.-259877.0.klw1953@juno.com> Orma: Just curious, What is the pitch and dia. of your prop. I have a 54X50 on my 2100 Revmaster and I also turn 3k static. Haven't flown it yet, Sept. maybe. Kenny On Thu, 3 Aug 2000 17:04:35 EDT AviationMech@aol.com writes: > The net seems quite today, so I'll take advantage and make an Update > for My > KR-2, N110LR. The bird has been trying to recover from an engine > change and > 2 years 7 months of not flying. I have completed the engine change, > the carb > adjustments, brake changes, fiberglass repairs to this and that and > then > encountered a weeks worth of bad weather. If the good weather holds > > tomorrow, I will calibrate the fuel gauge. I also need to do an > empty weight > check(1984 weight 578, 1994 weight 615) over the years it has gotten > heavyer, > and may need to go on a diet. How much do you other KR2's weigh??? > If all > goes well, I should be able take to the runway for some practice and > perhaps > a few laps around the patch. I expect a little more power as my 2.0 > type 4 > engine now has 300cc or more displacement. My original top speed > was 146MPH. > I'm hoping for a bit more speed, and a bit more climb. Holding > the brakes, > the tail lifts off at around 2500 rpm and should lift really quick > on the > take off roll. Full static RPM is 3000. I increased the size of > the > elevator trim tab, and tweaked the shape of the right wing, so I > have a few > things to flight check. > > Orma > A&P /IA KR builder/driver N110LR > aviationmech@aol.com > http://members.aol.com/aviationmech > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org > To unsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 21:48:12 EDT To: klw1953@juno.com From: AviationMech@aol.com CC: krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> Will it fly Message-ID: In a message dated 8/3/00 8:14:29 PM Eastern Daylight Time, klw1953@juno.com writes: > I have a 54X50 on my 2100 Revmaster and I also turn 3k static. I have a 54X42 Sterba Full blade Orma A&P /IA KR builder/driver N110LR aviationmech@aol.com http://members.aol.com/aviationmech ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 19:30:17 -0500 To: From: "Mark Langford" Subject: thrust line? Message-ID: <002b01bffdab$2a890140$a5f780ce@300emachine> KRNetHeads, It's still quiet today, so let me throw this one out. Anybody every actually SEEN a published thrust line location for the KR2 or 2S? If there is, I sure couldn't find it in the "plans" anywhere. Looking at the engine mount drawing, I'd think that the thrust line coincides with the top of the longeron. But looking at the KR2S side view (on the C size promotional drawing) you'd think it was about 2" lower than the longeron. Depending on which drawing you look at you can come up with just about any number you want. Any idea what happens if you fasten a Revmaster cowling to the firewall? Where does the center of the prop spinner end up vertically? The bottom line of all of this is how much room for a prop am I going to have with my Corvair engine? Nobody knows the answer to that one (as far as I know), but it's apparent to me that my "missile" nose depicted at the top of http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/kmarkl.html isn't going to happen, especially with any kind of long prop. That drawing has about 4.5" between crank centerline and top of longeron. I might have room for a 52" prop, but I need more. The starter in this drawing can be shortened by another inch using a different setup, so I can raise it probably 2" from where it is now without any heroic efforts. I realize that this is your basic design problem that I'm just going to have to wrestle with, but knowing how big a prop others have used and where their thrust lines are would be helpful. I know that there are other considerations for where the thrust line goes, but the only one driving me right now is prop clearance. Knowing what is "typical" would be a big help... Thanks a lot, Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama mailto:langford@hiwaay.net see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 19:52:02 -0500 To: "KRNet" From: "Robert Stone" Subject: Dynel Message-ID: <001701bffe77$5eb448e0$7aeb18d0@pavilion> ------=_NextPart_000_0014_01BFFE4D.751DFE20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Netters: Does anyone know if dynel cloth is still available. If so = where. For those of you who don't know, the original KR-1 on display at = Oshkosh and also the original KR-2 (the one Ken was killed in) were both = covered with dyne. Bob = Stone ------=_NextPart_000_0014_01BFFE4D.751DFE20-- ------------------------------ End of krnet Digest ***********************************