From: To: Subject: krnet Digest 20 Aug 2000 21:53:15 -0000 Issue 77 Date: Sunday, August 20, 2000 1:53 PM krnet Digest 20 Aug 2000 21:53:15 -0000 Issue 77 Topics (messages 1695 through 1723): Re: WAF 1695 by: Steven Eberhart 1697 by: Jeff LeTempt 1698 by: Mark Langford Re: Safety 1696 by: Kobus de Wet Re: Engine Isolators 1699 by: David Mullins 1709 by: David Mullins 1713 by: virgnvs.juno.com Re: corvaircraft: Engine Isolators 1700 by: Frank Ross 1705 by: Ross Youngblood 1706 by: Mark Langford 1707 by: Ross Youngblood 1712 by: virgnvs.juno.com Re: ] 1701 by: Mark Jones 1702 by: Robert Stone 1704 by: Mark Jones Safety and performance 1703 by: Robert E. Moser The 18% airfoil flies too! 1708 by: Mark Langford 1714 by: EagleGator.aol.com 1715 by: Mark Langford 1717 by: AviationMech.aol.com KR1 1710 by: Winston Brown 1719 by: Frank Ross KR2 Wanted 1711 by: Patrick Krause stick time 1716 by: William J. Starrs Mag timing 1718 by: AviationMech.aol.com Shop Vac? 1720 by: Mark Langford Brakes on Ebay toe brakes ready to go 1721 by: DONAN5.aol.com Stick grip to give your KR the fighter aircraft look 1722 by: DONAN5.aol.com Tailwheel 1723 by: Donald Reid Administrivia: To subscribe to the digest, e-mail: To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail: To post to the list, e-mail: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 14:04:39 -0500 (CDT) To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: Steven Eberhart Subject: RE: KR> WAF Message-ID: [snip] One of the advantages of building a KR as well as one of the disadvantages is that the plans leave a lot up to the imagination of the builder. Just go tto the annual Gathering and look at all of the 20+ KR's there. No two are alike. We all have pet ideas of how things should be done. We all also have access to different technologies at work or know people who do and are able to help out. There are a number of high dollar items that go into the construction of an airplane like the KR. The WAF's are just one. Wire EDM, if you have access to it at work or have a friend that can make the parts for you is one way of reducing costs. Just remember that the material isn't the only thing that has a spec. on it. THe heat treating is another critical area. With wire EDM you will have to thread the wire through each of the holes. I haven't counted the number of holes but there are 32 WAF's times some big number of holes. THe wire is going to have to be threaded through each hole before the hole can be cut :-( Laser cuttinw, water jet cutting and plasma cutting are other ways that the parts can be made. If you or a friend have access to any of this equipment then great. And, by the way, do you need another friend, I have a lot of parts to make :-) THe last time this thread came up Dr. Dean Collette and Mark Langford stepped up to the plate and said "hey, these parts don't have to cost what RR charges for them." Dean researched the requirements, material, heat treating, etc. and found an aerospace supplier that is experienced in making aircraft parts to make up a batch of WAF's for the KR crowd. Track him down at the Gathering this year and have a look at his WAF's. Hell, the man is a doctor. He isn't trying to get rich on the backs of the KR builders. He is just trying to help all of us get some quality parts and save a few bucks. All of you thet need WAF's either make sure that you make quality parts that meet the specifications, using what ever manufacturing methods that you have access to or give Dean or RR a call and pay them for their expertice in making the critical parts. Steve Eberhart mailto:newtech@newtech.com THE WING FLIES! - http://www.newtech.com/nlf for info on the new, flight tested, KRnet/UIUC airfoils. Good job KRnet, you can be proud of your contribution to Sport Aviation. Special thanks to Dr. Ashok Gopalarathnam and Dr. Michael Selig for some great Sport Aviation airfoils. One test is worth a thousand expert opinions but a thousand opinions are easier to get. --plagiarized from an unknown author All information, in any of my aircraft related correspondence, is strictly food for thought requiring additional, qualified, engineering analysis. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 16:27:54 -0500 To: , , From: "Jeff LeTempt" Subject: Re: KR> WAF Message-ID: <005601c0095b$383a6980$73a3fe3f@default> MSC also has a web site located at http://www.mscdirect.com/ that allows you to request their catalog and CR-ROM. Great stuff!! Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: Jerry Mahurin To: ; Sent: Friday, August 18, 2000 11:40 AM Subject: Re: KR> WAF > Greetings, > > Call MSC Industrial Supply at 800-645-7270. Ask and they will send you a > catalog. That sucker is 6" thick and a CD-ROM will come with it also. It's > full of all kinds of goodies and makes a better 'wish book' than a Sears > catalog..... > > Jerry Mahurin > Lugoff, SC > > > >From: "Schmidt, Curtis" > >Reply-To: "Schmidt, Curtis" > >To: "krnet@mailinglists.org" > >Subject: KR> WAF > >Date: 18 Aug 2000 07:41:00 -0700 > > > >Hello all: > >Some say that there having a hard time getting 4130 for there WAF. If you > >have access to a catalog called "MSC industrial supply " (most larger > >machine shops have them) > >They have 4142 hardened, ground and tempered (to a machinable state) 1/8 > >flat stock from 1/2 inch wide to 6 inches in 18 and 36 inch lengths. The > >1/8 x .500 x 18 piece is $11.97 and the > >1/8 x 1.500 x 18 piece is $22.15. > >If you cant find one of there catalogs you can call them at 800-645-7270 > >the part numbers are 06271043(1/8 x .500) and (1/8 x 1.500) 06271126. > >Someone there should be able to > >get them out to you in a couple days ! > > While I am a tool maker I would still have to recommend that you buy > >these fittings from either RR or one of the guys that set up and build > >several at one time. The special tooling > >That it takes to machine this type of metal (the hardened 4142) is both > >expensive and hard to find (sometimes) so do yourself a BIG favor, buy them > >and get on with the building process! > >CURTIS R SCHMIDT > >CNC TOOLING & PROGRAMMING > >LARNED KANSAS USA > > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > >To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org > >To unsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > >For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org > To unsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 18:19:06 -0500 To: From: "Mark Langford" Subject: Re: KR> WAF Message-ID: <001301c0096a$b49e23e0$a5f780ce@300emachine> Ed Blocher wrote: > Since this is Friday maybe TET will tell you what they have > and how much. You really need to see their WAF's to appreciate what you are > getting. If you insist. They're shown at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/tet/ (about half way down) and cost $275. We are in the process of making a batch, and it's probably not too late to get in on it... Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama mailto:langford@hiwaay.net see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 23:22:05 +0200 To: "Mike Mims" From: "Kobus de Wet" Cc: Subject: Re: KR> Safety Message-ID: <002401c0095a$5c712740$ae8aef9b@kobusdewet> Hi Guys Here is my 10c worth regarding SAFETY After my Gear collapse of three weeks ago I had the material of the gear locks analysed. It turned out to be, yes you are right, soft commercial grade stuff. No I did not build the KR myself. Yes the WAF's are 4130 So I think the answer is "Be very carefull" Kobus de Wet Cape Town South Africa GMT +2.00 +27 21 988 3671 Home +27 82 424 0194 Cell www.home.intekom.com/kobusdw ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike Mims Cc: Sent: 18 August 2000 18:43 Subject: Re: KR> Safety Robert Stone wrote: > > Your right, but unfortunately there is always some jackass who thinks that > anyone who has an opinion that is not the same as his is on crack or crazy. [OPINION a : belief stronger than impression and less strong than positive knowledge b : a generally held view] So someone throws and opinion (a dangerous one) out there that just may influence someone with lesser knowledge and its OK? Give me a break! In the case of opinions concerning the way something looks (paint job, designed shape, etc.), you are completely correct but lets say an opinion about the way a WAF is constructed, materials, size etc. can be dangerous and if someone doesn't point that out we could have a problem here. I have had the benefit of seeing hundreds of homebuilts in the "construction phase" and I am here to tell you some of the builders out there ARE crazy, IE On Crack. Sorry if that offending someone, it was just an opinion of an opinion and those on the list that know me, realize that I like to toss in a little humor now and then. -- __________________ Micheal Mims Not on crack http://explanes.com/ Aliso Viejo Ca ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org To unsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 22:11:34 -0400 To: virgnvs@juno.com From: David Mullins CC: krnet Subject: Re: KR> Engine Isolators Message-ID: <399DECD6.7D318A1B@ici.net> virgnvs@juno.com wrote: > > What are these used for and what do they look like. > Virg > Virg, They are used for front sway bar bushings on most cars. _____ | | / \ | | | | | | ----------- ADDCO End Link Bushing Conical Top _____ | | O O | | | | | | ----------- Energy Suspension End Link Bushing Rounded Top Dave M Nashua, New Hampshire > On Fri, 18 Aug 2000 11:25:14 -0400 David Mullins > writes: > > I found a set of just the urethane end link bushings at my local Pep > > Boys for $8. > > > > Addco part #609D (Deep ruby red color) Addco Industries, Lake park, > > Florida > > > > My local Speed Shop ordered me a set of Energy Suspension End Link > > Bushings > > For about the same price. I believe these are the correct part > > numbers. > > I don't have them right in front of me at this moment. > > > > Part #8130B Blue > > #8130Y Yellow > > > > They also come in red, orange and black > > > > All are sized for a 3/8" bolt, a 5/8" nipple, and a 1" OD. The Addco > > ones have a > > cone shape to the top of them and the Energy Suspension ones have a > > rounded top. > > > > http://www.energysuspension.com/ > > > > http://www.addco.net/ > > > > Dave M > > Nashua, New Hampshire > > > > > > David Stroud wrote: > > > > > > > > > ===============================CorvAIRCRAFT============================== > = > > > Subject: Re: corvaircraft: Engine Isolators > > > > > > >Dave, Do you have a UAP Automotive store near by. If so I can > > give you > > > >a part number for some very cheap (shock bushings) like less than > > a dollar. > > > >But you will have to ream them out a lithe, which is no problem > > with a > > > small > > > >die grinder. > > > > > > > >Wayne Grimes > > > > > > Yup..what's the number please..thanks. > > > > > > Dave Stroud > > > L 16 B replica (Christavia) > > > C-FDWS Ottawa, Canada > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > > > ________________________________________________________________ > YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! > Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! > Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 17:32:34 -0400 To: virgnvs@juno.com From: David Mullins CC: krnet Subject: Re: KR> Engine Isolators Message-ID: <399EFCF2.37AC949F@ici.net> Virg, If you are using a corvair with a bed type mount. Drill the four engine mount tabs on the corvair block to 5/8". Put one bushing on top of the mounting tap and the other below. Get some 3/8" AN970 washers and a 4 AN6 bolts the correct length. Sandwich the bushings with the washers and run the bolt through everything and the engine mount. Put another washer on the bolt and finish with a AN310 castle nut and cotter pin. Repeat for the other three mounting tabs. Dave M Nashua, New Hampshire virgnvs@juno.com wrote: > > How ddo you use them on a KR ? Virg > ______ | | | | AN6 Bolt | | | | --|--|-- ============= AN970 washer ----------- | | | | Bushing | | \ / | | |--- _____ ---| | _____ | Engine Tab |---| |---| / \ | | | | Bushing | | ----------- ============= AN970 Washer ________________________________________________ Engine mount tube ________________________________________________ ============= AN970 Washer ________ | | \ || || / AN310 Castle nut \||_||/ ADDCO End Link Bushing Conical Top _____ | | O O | | | | | | ----------- Energy Suspension End Link Bushing Rounded Top > > Dave M > > Nashua, New Hampshire > > > > > > > On Fri, 18 Aug 2000 11:25:14 -0400 David Mullins > > > > > writes: > > > > I found a set of just the urethane end link bushings at my local > > Pep > > > > Boys for $8. > > > > > > > > Addco part #609D (Deep ruby red color) Addco Industries, Lake > > park, > > > > Florida > > > > > > > > My local Speed Shop ordered me a set of Energy Suspension End > > Link > > > > Bushings > > > > For about the same price. I believe these are the correct part > > > > numbers. > > > > I don't have them right in front of me at this moment. > > > > > > > > Part #8130B Blue > > > > #8130Y Yellow > > > > > > > > They also come in red, orange and black > > > > > > > > All are sized for a 3/8" bolt, a 5/8" nipple, and a 1" OD. The > > Addco > > > > ones have a > > > > cone shape to the top of them and the Energy Suspension ones > > have a > > > > rounded top. > > > > > > > > http://www.energysuspension.com/ > > > > > > > > http://www.addco.net/ > > > > > > > > Dave M > > > > Nashua, New Hampshire > > > > > > > > > > > > David Stroud wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ===============================CorvAIRCRAFT============================== > > > = > > > > > Subject: Re: corvaircraft: Engine Isolators > > > > > > > > > > >Dave, Do you have a UAP Automotive store near by. If so I > > can > > > > give you > > > > > >a part number for some very cheap (shock bushings) like less > > than > > > > a dollar. > > > > > >But you will have to ream them out a lithe, which is no > > problem > > > > with a > > > > > small > > > > > >die grinder. > > > > > > > > > > > >Wayne Grimes > > > > > > > > > > Yup..what's the number please..thanks. > > > > > > > > > > Dave Stroud > > > > > L 16 B replica (Christavia) > > > > > C-FDWS Ottawa, Canada > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________ > > > YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! > > > Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! > > > Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: > > > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. > > ________________________________________________________________ > YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! > Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! > Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 21:36:56 -0700 To: dmullins@ici.net From: virgnvs@juno.com Cc: virgnvs@juno.com, krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> Engine Isolators Message-ID: <20000819.214450.-355611.3.virgnvs@juno.com> O K !! Thanks for the reply, Virg On Sat, 19 Aug 2000 17:32:34 -0400 David Mullins writes: > Virg, > > If you are using a corvair with a bed type mount. Drill the four > engine mount tabs on the corvair block to 5/8". Put one bushing on > top of the mounting tap and the other below. Get some 3/8" AN970 > washers and a 4 AN6 bolts the correct length. Sandwich the bushings > with the washers and run the bolt through everything and the engine > mount. Put another washer on the bolt and finish with a AN310 > castle nut and cotter pin. Repeat for the other three mounting tabs. > > Dave M > Nashua, New Hampshire > > virgnvs@juno.com wrote: > > > > How ddo you use them on a KR ? Virg > > > ______ > | | | | AN6 Bolt > | | | | > --|--|-- > ============= AN970 washer > ----------- > | | > | | Bushing > | | > \ / > | | > |--- _____ ---| > | _____ | Engine Tab > |---| |---| > / \ > | | > | | Bushing > | | > ----------- > ============= AN970 Washer > ________________________________________________ > > > Engine mount tube > > ________________________________________________ > ============= AN970 Washer > ________ > | | > \ || || / AN310 Castle nut > \||_||/ > > > > ADDCO End Link Bushing > Conical Top > > > > > _____ > | | > O O > | | > | | > | | > ----------- > > Energy Suspension End Link Bushing > Rounded Top > > > > > > Dave M > > > Nashua, New Hampshire > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 18 Aug 2000 11:25:14 -0400 David Mullins > > > > > > > writes: > > > > > I found a set of just the urethane end link bushings at my > local > > > Pep > > > > > Boys for $8. > > > > > > > > > > Addco part #609D (Deep ruby red color) Addco Industries, > Lake > > > park, > > > > > Florida > > > > > > > > > > My local Speed Shop ordered me a set of Energy Suspension > End > > > Link > > > > > Bushings > > > > > For about the same price. I believe these are the correct > part > > > > > numbers. > > > > > I don't have them right in front of me at this moment. > > > > > > > > > > Part #8130B Blue > > > > > #8130Y Yellow > > > > > > > > > > They also come in red, orange and black > > > > > > > > > > All are sized for a 3/8" bolt, a 5/8" nipple, and a 1" OD. > The > > > Addco > > > > > ones have a > > > > > cone shape to the top of them and the Energy Suspension ones > > > have a > > > > > rounded top. > > > > > > > > > > http://www.energysuspension.com/ > > > > > > > > > > http://www.addco.net/ > > > > > > > > > > Dave M > > > > > Nashua, New Hampshire > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > David Stroud wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ===============================CorvAIRCRAFT============================== > > > > = > > > > > > Subject: Re: corvaircraft: Engine Isolators > > > > > > > > > > > > >Dave, Do you have a UAP Automotive store near by. If > so I > > > can > > > > > give you > > > > > > >a part number for some very cheap (shock bushings) like > less > > > than > > > > > a dollar. > > > > > > >But you will have to ream them out a lithe, which is no > > > problem > > > > > with a > > > > > > small > > > > > > >die grinder. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Wayne Grimes > > > > > > > > > > > > Yup..what's the number please..thanks. > > > > > > > > > > > > Dave Stroud > > > > > > L 16 B replica (Christavia) > > > > > > C-FDWS Ottawa, Canada > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org > > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________ > > > > YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! > > > > Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! > > > > Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, > visit: > > > > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. > > > > ________________________________________________________________ > > YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! > > Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! > > Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: > > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 22:10:26 -0700 (PDT) To: Richard Parker , krnet@mailinglists.org From: Frank Ross Subject: Re: KR> Re: corvaircraft: Engine Isolators Message-ID: <20000819051026.6125.qmail@web4704.mail.yahoo.com> Phat Dude, too totally phat! --- Richard Parker wrote: > I picked up some nice little urethane bushings for > $2 a pair at my local > skateboard shop. Ask for "truck bushings" They come > in various durometers > and "groooovy" colors. When you tell them you are > using them in an airplane > they'll tell you that your are "Rad" or "Fat" or > whatever the cool term is. > > Rich Parker > (skateboardless for many years now) ===== Frank Ross, San Antonio, TX, __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 12:50:17 -0700 To: Richard Parker From: Ross Youngblood CC: krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> Re: corvaircraft: Engine Isolators Message-ID: <399EE4F9.53F2A426@teleport.com> Richard, Hey this sounds like a really terrific idea! I had purchased a new set of urethane CAB mount bushings for my old S10 pickup and they seemed to work well. So it kinda makes the idea of urethane bushings sound credible for Aircraft use to me. You need to take some photos of this, it sounds like a terrific application of them. I'm thinking they may be a bit more rigid than rubber bushings, but on the other hand, they may outlast the lord type. Plus the price is right. Can anyone comment on the application of urethane as an engine isolator... sounds like one of those nugget ideas just waiting to be tried out. -- Regards Ross Richard Parker wrote: > I picked up some nice little urethane bushings for $2 a pair at my local > skateboard shop. Ask for "truck bushings" They come in various durometers > and "groooovy" colors. When you tell them you are using them in an airplane > they'll tell you that your are "Rad" or "Fat" or whatever the cool term is. > > Rich Parker > (skateboardless for many years now) > > >I found a set of just the urethane end link bushings at my local Pep > >Boys for $8. > > > >Addco part #609D (Deep ruby red color) Addco Industries, Lake park, > >Florida > > > >My local Speed Shop ordered me a set of Energy Suspension End Link > >Bushings > >For about the same price. I believe these are the correct part numbers. > >I don't have them right in front of me at this moment. > > > >Part #8130B Blue > > #8130Y Yellow > > > >They also come in red, orange and black > > > >All are sized for a 3/8" bolt, a 5/8" nipple, and a 1" OD. The Addco > >ones have a > >cone shape to the top of them and the Energy Suspension ones have a > >rounded top. > > > >http://www.energysuspension.com/ > > > >http://www.addco.net/ > > > >Dave M > >Nashua, New Hampshire > > > > > >David Stroud wrote: > > > > > > > >===============================CorvAIRCRAFT=============================== > > > Subject: Re: corvaircraft: Engine Isolators > > > > > > >Dave, Do you have a UAP Automotive store near by. If so I can give > >you > > > >a part number for some very cheap (shock bushings) like less than a > >dollar. > > > >But you will have to ream them out a lithe, which is no problem with a > > > small > > > >die grinder. > > > > > > > >Wayne Grimes > > > > > > Yup..what's the number please..thanks. > > > > > > Dave Stroud > > > L 16 B replica (Christavia) > > > C-FDWS Ottawa, Canada > > > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > >To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org > >To unsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > >For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 14:39:29 -0500 From: "Mark Langford" Cc: Subject: Re: KR> Re: corvaircraft: Engine Isolators Message-ID: <005601c00a15$30d106d0$a5f780ce@300emachine> Ross wrote: > Can anyone comment > on the application of urethane as an engine isolator... sounds like one of > those nugget ideas just waiting to be tried out. William Wynne uses them on his Corvair installation, and I'm sure there are others as well. That's exactly what I'll use. I've been using them on my Ghia sway bars for 25 years now, and I'm still on the originals... Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama mailto:langford@hiwaay.net see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 12:59:23 -0700 To: Richard Parker From: Ross Youngblood CC: krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> Re: corvaircraft: Engine Isolators Message-ID: <399EE71B.510D9038@teleport.com> Richard Parker wrote: > I picked up some nice little urethane bushings for $2 a pair at my local > skateboard shop. Ask for "truck bushings" They come in various durometers > and "groooovy" colors. When you tell them you are using them in an airplane > they'll tell you that your are "Rad" or "Fat" or whatever the cool term is. > > Rich Parker > (skateboardless for many years now) > > >I found a set of just the urethane end link bushings at my local Pep > >Boys for $8. > > > >Addco part #609D (Deep ruby red color) Addco Industries, Lake park, > >Florida > > > >My local Speed Shop ordered me a set of Energy Suspension End Link > >Bushings > >For about the same price. I believe these are the correct part numbers. > >I don't have them right in front of me at this moment. > > > >Part #8130B Blue > > #8130Y Yellow > > > >They also come in red, orange and black > > > >All are sized for a 3/8" bolt, a 5/8" nipple, and a 1" OD. The Addco > >ones have a > >cone shape to the top of them and the Energy Suspension ones have a > >rounded top. > > > >http://www.energysuspension.com/ > > > >http://www.addco.net/ > > > >Dave M > >Nashua, New Hampshire > > > > > >David Stroud wrote: > > > > > > > >===============================CorvAIRCRAFT=============================== > > > Subject: Re: corvaircraft: Engine Isolators > > > > > > >Dave, Do you have a UAP Automotive store near by. If so I can give > >you > > > >a part number for some very cheap (shock bushings) like less than a > >dollar. > > > >But you will have to ream them out a lithe, which is no problem with a > > > small > > > >die grinder. > > > > > > > >Wayne Grimes > > > > > > Yup..what's the number please..thanks. > > > > > > Dave Stroud > > > L 16 B replica (Christavia) > > > C-FDWS Ottawa, Canada > > > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > >To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org > >To unsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > >For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 21:31:53 -0700 To: rossy@teleport.com From: virgnvs@juno.com Cc: richontheroad@hotmail.com, krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> Re: corvaircraft: Engine Isolators Message-ID: <20000819.214450.-355611.1.virgnvs@juno.com> I used the NAPA bushings as per RR. Real cheap, Virg On Sat, 19 Aug 2000 12:50:17 -0700 Ross Youngblood writes: > Richard, > Hey this sounds like a really terrific idea! I had purchased a > new set of > urethane > CAB mount bushings for my old S10 pickup and they seemed to work > well. So > it kinda makes the idea of urethane bushings sound credible for > Aircraft use > to me. > You need to take some photos of this, it sounds like a terrific > application of > them. > > I'm thinking they may be a bit more rigid than rubber bushings, but > on the > other > hand, they may outlast the lord type. Plus the price is right. Can > anyone > comment > on the application of urethane as an engine isolator... sounds like > one of > those nugget > ideas just waiting to be tried out. > > -- Regards > Ross > > > Richard Parker wrote: > > > I picked up some nice little urethane bushings for $2 a pair at my > local > > skateboard shop. Ask for "truck bushings" They come in various > durometers > > and "groooovy" colors. When you tell them you are using them in an > airplane > > they'll tell you that your are "Rad" or "Fat" or whatever the cool > term is. > > > > Rich Parker > > (skateboardless for many years now) > > > > >I found a set of just the urethane end link bushings at my local > Pep > > >Boys for $8. > > > > > >Addco part #609D (Deep ruby red color) Addco Industries, Lake > park, > > >Florida > > > > > >My local Speed Shop ordered me a set of Energy Suspension End > Link > > >Bushings > > >For about the same price. I believe these are the correct part > numbers. > > >I don't have them right in front of me at this moment. > > > > > >Part #8130B Blue > > > #8130Y Yellow > > > > > >They also come in red, orange and black > > > > > >All are sized for a 3/8" bolt, a 5/8" nipple, and a 1" OD. The > Addco > > >ones have a > > >cone shape to the top of them and the Energy Suspension ones have > a > > >rounded top. > > > > > >http://www.energysuspension.com/ > > > > > >http://www.addco.net/ > > > > > >Dave M > > >Nashua, New Hampshire > > > > > > > > >David Stroud wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > >===============================CorvAIRCRAFT============================= == > > > > Subject: Re: corvaircraft: Engine Isolators > > > > > > > > >Dave, Do you have a UAP Automotive store near by. If so I > can give > > >you > > > > >a part number for some very cheap (shock bushings) like less > than a > > >dollar. > > > > >But you will have to ream them out a lithe, which is no > problem with a > > > > small > > > > >die grinder. > > > > > > > > > >Wayne Grimes > > > > > > > > Yup..what's the number please..thanks. > > > > > > > > Dave Stroud > > > > L 16 B replica (Christavia) > > > > C-FDWS Ottawa, Canada > > > > > > > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org > > >To unsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > > >For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at > http://www.hotmail.com > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org > To unsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! 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For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagh. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 09:01:44 -0500 To: KR-Net From: Mark Jones Subject: [Fwd: ] Message-ID: <399E9348.75A76359@execpc.com> --------------D95A5B41E5FA269138BCA440 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Netters, Bob Sauer asked me to forward this for what it is worth. -- Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at mailto:flykr2s@execpc.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://sites.netscape.net/flykr2s/homepage --------------D95A5B41E5FA269138BCA440 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Received: from c.mx.execpc.com (c.mx.execpc.com [169.207.3.102]) by core0.mx.execpc.com (8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA00726 for ; Fri, 18 Aug 2000 17:31:10 -0500 (CDT) Return-Path: Received: from sm0101.promedia.net (root@sm0101.promedia.net [208.131.40.4]) by c.mx.execpc.com (8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA15487 for ; Fri, 18 Aug 2000 17:31:07 -0500 (CDT) Received: from home (ppp-208-161-112-59.15.softcom.net [208.161.112.59]) by sm0101.promedia.net (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id e7IMV4A08529 for ; Fri, 18 Aug 2000 15:31:05 -0700 Message-ID: <009e01c00963$804e47c0$1870a1d0@home> From: "Bob Sauer" To: "Mark Jones" Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 15:27:30 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_009A_01C00928.D2B08720"; type="multipart/alternative" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_009A_01C00928.D2B08720 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_009B_01C00928.D2B08720" ------=_NextPart_001_009B_01C00928.D2B08720 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable August 18, 2000 Mark: Please forward to the net, I'm off now. ALERT ALERT ALERT My most recent order with Aircraft Spruce was incomplete and had back = =3D order items. They charged $55 for oversize on 24 x 96 x 3/4 foam. They = =3D never have charged over $30 for an entire shipment.=3D20 They are providing poor customer service, overcharging and backordering, = =3D causing additional charges due to their inability to have product on =3D hand. Be careful of dealing with them. I have never had a problem with Wicks, = =3D just thought I would try Aircraft Spruce because they were closer. What = =3D a mistake! From: resauer@softcom.net ------=_NextPart_001_009B_01C00928.D2B08720 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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Why don't you send them a E-Mail outlining your complaint and further advise them that we are a group of builders/pilots of composite aircraft 600 strong and if this kind of treatment continues all 600+ will be so advised. Send it direct, (for the personal attention of) Jim and Nanci Irwin, they are the current owners. If they have any sense at all, they will look into the situation and correct it because a bad reputation could ruin their business in a very short time. Bob Stone ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Jones" To: "KR-Net" Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2000 9:01 AM Subject: KR> [Fwd: ] > Hi Netters, > Bob Sauer asked me to forward this for what it is worth. > > -- > Mark Jones (N886MJ) > Wales, WI USA > E-mail me at mailto:flykr2s@execpc.com > Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at > http://sites.netscape.net/flykr2s/homepage > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org > To unsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 14:30:37 -0500 To: Robert Stone From: Mark Jones CC: KR-Net Subject: Re: KR> [Fwd: ] Message-ID: <399EE05D.9D90741@execpc.com> Hello Friends, The information I posted to the net concerning Aircraft Spruce poor service was not an experience of mine. Bob Sauer, who was formerly on the net sent me this information and asked the I pass it along for what it was worth. Personally, I have never had a bad experience with ASS (AS&S). Maybe I should have not posted the email from Bob Sauer. If it was taken wrong or offended anyone, you have my deepest apologies. Thanks Mark Jones Robert Stone wrote: > Mark: I have not done much business with Aircraft Spruce since I built two > KR's years ago but at that time they never did anything like you describe. > Why don't you send them a E-Mail outlining your complaint and further advise > them that we are a group of builders/pilots of composite aircraft 600 > strong and if this kind of treatment continues all 600+ will be so advised. > Send it direct, (for the personal attention of) Jim and Nanci > Irwin, they are the current owners. If they have any sense at all, they > will look into the situation and correct it because a bad reputation could > ruin their business in a very short time. > > Bob Stone > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mark Jones" > To: "KR-Net" > Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2000 9:01 AM > Subject: KR> [Fwd: ] > > > Hi Netters, > > Bob Sauer asked me to forward this for what it is worth. > > > > -- > > Mark Jones (N886MJ) > > Wales, WI USA > > E-mail me at mailto:flykr2s@execpc.com > > Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at > > http://sites.netscape.net/flykr2s/homepage > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---- > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org -- Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at mailto:flykr2s@execpc.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://sites.netscape.net/flykr2s/homepage ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 13:10:13 -0400 To: "KR Network" From: "Robert E. Moser" Subject: Safety and performance Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20000819130531.00ae3100@viper> Greetings everyone, I've narrowed down my search for a homebuilt to try to the KR-2 or KR-2S. I've heard concerns about the safety record of the KR-2. I also have been unable to get real performance figures from anywhere. When I looked at the Dragonfly, it was commonly said the published performance figures were quite optimistic. That said, anyone know where I can find information on the safety of the KR-series aircraft? What about real performance figures? Finally, what is the design G-loading of the aircraft and what type of maneuvers can it be safely expected to perform? Thanks! Robert ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 16:10:21 -0500 To: From: "Mark Langford" Subject: The 18% airfoil flies too! Message-ID: <008101c00a21$e27c2840$a5f780ce@300emachine> WingNuts, Dean Selby just called with some great news...he flew his plane for the first time today! It was a day of many firsts. First left seat in a KR, first time he flew his new plane, first time the AS5048/15 wing was flown, first time he'd ever had an engine failure, and first forced landing! Plane and pilot are fine, and the landing was on the runway. He's running Troy's old 75 hp 1915cc HAPI engine, as well as the same Zenith carb that put Troy down on a farm road a few years ago. Apparently the carb was the culprit this time too, although it had run fine on the ground and for the first few minutes of flight. It comes apart tomorrow to see what he can find. He flew for about 20 minutes, and CHTs never exceeded 305 degrees, and oil temp never exceeded 205. He's using a 52x48 Tennessee Props prop and the plane weighs 674 pounds (just about where I hope to come in). Climbout was lackluster, until Troy radioed to let it "spool up" to 100mph so it would climbout better. He didn't do any wide open runs, so top speed is still unknown. He's running wing tanks, a mechanical fuel pump, and an electric backup pump. Looks like he'll make the Gathering if he can iron out the carb problem. We'll have to wait a little while for speed and handling assessments. Congratulations Dean! Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama mailto:langford@hiwaay.net see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 23:23:12 EDT To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: EagleGator@aol.com Subject: Re: KR> The 18% airfoil flies too! Message-ID: In a message dated 8/19/00 4:16:22 PM Central Daylight Time, langford@hiwaay.net writes: > He didn't do any wide open runs, so top > speed is still unknown. Great to hear that the wing has flown! I've been lurking on the list and keeping my mouth shut as of late, but I've seen a few comments about first flights that talk about "high speed low pass" and "wide open runs"... which is a cause for concern. To be brief -- Don't do this, guys. It doesn't matter if you've flown 100 KRs, looking for "top end" on a first flight is a really bad idea. That particular data point shouldn't be approached until much later in the flight test process, after you have demonstrated the integrity of the airframe, flight controls, engine and propeller. You can't do that in one flight, and shouldn't attempt it. There are some excellent books out there that will help you approach your first flight and the rest of your test period with safety and discipline. If you are getting near that point in your project, please take advantage of the resouces available to you through the EAA Flight Advisor and Technical Counselor programs to get yourself, as well as your airplane, ready for success. Cheers, Rick Junkin, St. Charles MO EagleGator@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 23:32:53 -0500 To: From: "Mark Langford" Subject: Re: KR> The 18% airfoil flies too! Message-ID: <00fa01c00a5f$b5286c30$a5f780ce@300emachine> "Flight Test" Rick Junkin wrote: > seen a few comments about first flights that talk about "high speed low pass" > and "wide open runs"... which is a cause for concern. Yep, I shoulda prefaced that with "wisely". I was explaining, not complaining. I wouldn't have expected a high WOT expedition on the first flight either. I thought you'd nail him for the "first time in the left seat of a KR" though I'm gonna be one major chicken when it comes to flight testing, myself, but Troy's volunteered to get me ready for it in his KR2. I'm thinking Huntsville International, with two 10,000 foot runways, and a multi-talented fire department... Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama mailto:langford@hiwaay.net see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 03:04:45 EDT To: EagleGator@aol.com, krnet@mailinglists.org From: AviationMech@aol.com Subject: Re: KR> The 18% airfoil flies too! Message-ID: <73.629ea59.26d0dd0d@aol.com> In a message dated 8/19/00 11:24:16 PM Eastern Daylight Time, EagleGator@aol.com writes: > "high speed low pass" > and "wide open runs"... which is a cause for concern. Hi Rick. Your comments are very appropriate. A week or so past I posted to the net "Airplane noises", and I made the comment that I made a speed pass on one of my flights. I want to make this clairfication in case others got the wrong impression. KR-2 N110LR that made that pass was completed and first flown by me in 1984 and has about 500 hours all by me. The pass that I made reached a speed of 160 MPH at an engine speed of only 2600 rpm prevent stressing that component(which by the way had nearly 10 hours of ground run time). Your cautions are very valid for both new pilots as well as new or strange airplanes. Also your Tech Counselor comment is great. Orma A&P /IA KR builder/driver N110LR aviationmech@aol.com http://members.aol.com/aviationmech ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 15:48:10 -0600 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: Winston Brown Subject: KR1 Message-Id: <4.3.1.0.20000819154157.00aa1a30@mail.cadvision.com> Hi gang Could anybody tell me were I could pick up the Honda 125 alternator they show in the work book for the KR1 with a VW 1835 engine. Winston Brown Calgary Alberta brownww@cadvision.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 04:08:40 -0700 (PDT) To: Winston Brown , krnet@mailinglists.org From: Frank Ross Subject: Re: KR> KR1 Message-ID: <20000820110840.11431.qmail@web4701.mail.yahoo.com> I am also interested in this. It would be nice if the KR-1 plans would state what year(s) Honda 125cc and if others would work. Without exception, when you go to the motorcycle junk yard or parts dealer the first question out of the guy's mouth is "What year and model are you looking for?" Thanks --- Winston Brown wrote: > Hi gang > > Could anybody tell me were I could pick up the > Honda 125 alternator they show in the work book > for the KR1 with a VW 1835 engine. > > > > Winston Brown > Calgary Alberta > brownww@cadvision.com > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: > krnet-help@mailinglists.org > ===== Frank Ross, San Antonio, TX, __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail – Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 17:46:57 -0700 To: From: "Patrick Krause" Subject: KR2 Wanted Message-ID: <002901c00a40$25058f80$0c5c6cc7@itconvergence.com> ------=_NextPart_000_0026_01C00A05.785D5270 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ....I've seen the KR-2 fly a number of times ....I've had the plans for years ....I've finally decided it would be better for me to buy one if I can = rather than build one. My preference would be the KR2-S If anyone is considering selling, please contact me via email or phone. PS. Are there any owners/club around the SF Bay area... or within a = short flight of here? Patrick Krause San Francisco, California 415-675-7935 x101 patrick_krause@itconvergence.com ------=_NextPart_000_0026_01C00A05.785D5270-- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 21:48:52 -0700 To: "KR-net" From: "William J. Starrs" Subject: stick time Message-ID: <003e01c00a61$f15d4160$140b2aa2@starrs> ------=_NextPart_000_003B_01C00A27.43EA3A40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Help! I completed my KR-1 passed inspection etc. but there is no one = here with a KR-2. We live in Prescott,AZ about 100 miles North of Phoenix and = about the same South of Flagstaff. Will be happy to pay for some stick = time , Bill Starrs Visit the Arizona Catholic Evidence Guild at = www.cybertrails.com/~bstarrs Find out for yourself exactly what the = Catholic Church teaches. ------=_NextPart_000_003B_01C00A27.43EA3A40-- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 03:44:19 EDT To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: AviationMech@aol.com Subject: Mag timing Message-ID: <63.a0a0cdc.26d0e653@aol.com> Hi Netters. When the impact of what had happened hit me, I did not get angry, or start shaking, rather I said a special Thank You, to my Heavenly copilot for bringing me home without the need to handle the knowledge that my mag would not work again. My Mag, a Slick 4316 only has about 250 hours since new. It failed after my Airplane noises flight and was not detected until yesterday when I went to start the plane after trimming the prop. With the mag switched to the start position, the mag is still grounded. I Disconnected the "P" lead, and the mag is still grounded. I opened the mag, disconnected the internal wire on the back of the condenser, and the "P" lead post (tip of the condenser) is no longer grounded to the mag case. The terminal that the condenser connects to is grounded to the case, and should not be. That wire goes to one side of the coil. The other coil wire is connected to the case (ground), and the high tension connection is to the distributor block. It appears that the coil is shot. I have a set of heads drilled for dual plugs. I started to polish the ports a year or so ago and have not finished the job. I just found new motivation to get that job done. I doubt that the mag was working at 100 present up until failure. The funny thing is that I removed my last mag because I suspected that it was not giving 100 percent and I replaced it with a VW distributor and gained 400 RPM (proof). Yesterday I went to the hanger and trimmed 1 inch off the prop to try to get the engine to reach its Max HP at around 3400 rpm. How I will not know the effects of my efforts. I was told to expect a 200 rpm increase. If the mag was limiting the rpm because it was already defective, I could get a larger increase due to the combined effect. Today (Sunday) I will setup a distributor and see what kind of performance I get. Orma A&P /IA KR builder/driver N110LR aviationmech@aol.com http://members.aol.com/aviationmech ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 09:41:55 -0500 To: From: "Mark Langford" Subject: Shop Vac? Message-ID: <013d01c00ab4$ca0414b0$a5f780ce@300emachine> VacuumHeads, I've had it with my present shop vac. Although I've managed to live with it for 12 years, it's finally gotten the best of me. Every time I vacuum after doing body work, it just seems to redistribute the dust and debris all over the shop. Each time, I go outside and clean the little filter sock and foam thing, but I shouldn't have to do that constantly, and it clogs up and falls off the next time I use it anyway. Does anybody have a shop vac that they'd just plain SWEAR BY (not swear at)? I'm going to buy one next week, and I'd rather not make the same mistake again. Mine's a Genie, and it stinks! I'll check Consumer Reports, but I have a feeling they don't test them on urethane foam and micro dust. Email me privately so I don't waste everybody's time, and I'll report back on the winner. In other news, I'm working on my wing root fairings. One of those things that I've stared at and been afraid to deal with for years! I have finally adopted a new motto: "Just DO SOMETHING!". I decided to do exactly that yesterday, and 3 hours later I had both of the top sides done. It's sitting out in the sun curing at the moment. One thing I'd do differently next time is mount the inner root airfoil template about an inch away from the fuselage, and run the stub wing all the way to the fuselage, and then just put a 1" micro fillet between stub wing and fuselage. It would look great, and be no problem at all to do. And Nemesis is done that way. If I'm really 75% done, and I've done 3000 hours so far, if I put in 20 hours a week then I should be done in time for next year's Gathering. This business of everybody else flying is starting to get to me... Thanks a lot, Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama mailto:langford@hiwaay.net see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 13:52:23 EDT To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: DONAN5@aol.com Subject: Brakes on Ebay toe brakes ready to go Message-ID: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=406435597 This auction ends today these should work good for toe brakes in a KR ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 13:55:46 EDT To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: DONAN5@aol.com Subject: Stick grip to give your KR the fighter aircraft look Message-ID: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=406453657 This ends today on Ebay Stick grip with switch ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 17:55:38 -0400 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: Donald Reid Subject: Tailwheel Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.20000820175245.0095f100@pop.erols.com> I had a request from one of our net members for details on my tailwheel. I volunteered to send him some photos, but I decided that I may as well load them on the web site. Someone else may want to see them as well. Go to either http://users.erols.com/donreid/kr_tailwheel.htm or the homepage and follow the link. Don Reid mailto:donreid@erols.com Bumpass, Va KR2XL at http://www.erols.com/donreid/kr_page.htm USUA Club 250 at http://www.erols.com/donreid/usua250.html ------------------------------ End of krnet Digest ***********************************