From: To: Subject: krnet Digest 17 Oct 2000 18:24:55 -0000 Issue 109 Date: Tuesday, October 17, 2000 10:25 AM krnet Digest 17 Oct 2000 18:24:55 -0000 Issue 109 Topics (messages 2553 through 2582): Re: Reply] Torque 2553 by: Mark Jones Cruddy fibreglass fuel tank 2554 by: MiloKetchum.aol.com 2557 by: Ted & Sarah Fields 2561 by: Mark Langford 2563 by: Garland, Norm F 2566 by: cartera Doubler on H Stab 2555 by: Dave and Tina Goodman ReENGINES ENGINES ENGINES! 2556 by: MiloKetchum.aol.com 2559 by: Mike Mims Re: UNSUBSCRIBE/unsubscribe/UNSUBSCRIBE 2558 by: Ted & Sarah Fields Re: which carb? 2560 by: Mike Mims 2567 by: GARYKR2.cs.com 2570 by: Kenneth L Wiltrout 2571 by: Phil Maynard 2573 by: JEAN VERON 2574 by: JEAN VERON 2576 by: Phil Maynard Re: Gear Springs 2562 by: Jerry Mahurin 2564 by: Tracy & Carol O'Brien Comments 2565 by: George Allen 2580 by: Robert Stone fuel/carbs 2568 by: Phil Maynard Doublers on the H Stab 2569 by: Dave and Tina Goodman 2572 by: Phil Maynard Re; Langford, Re;Ted Feilds 2575 by: rme114.juno.com 2579 by: KR2616TJ.aol.com Re: which carb?] 2577 by: Ross Youngblood Thanks for all the input on my cruddy fibreglass tank! 2578 by: MiloKetchum.aol.com V.W. voltage output 2581 by: GoFlySlow2.aol.com Fuel Tanks 2582 by: Carson J. Cassidy Administrivia: To subscribe to the digest, e-mail: To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail: To post to the list, e-mail: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2000 18:51:23 -0500 To: CorvAIRCRAFT , KR-Net From: Mark Jones Subject: [Fwd: Reply] Torque Message-ID: <39EA42FA.A11D4151@execpc.com> --------------D83ED3194FDB460C90F675A4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I thought I would put this up for comment. Thanks -- Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at mailto:flykr2s@execpc.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://sites.netscape.net/flykr2s/homepage --------------D83ED3194FDB460C90F675A4 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Received: from c.mx.execpc.com (c.mx.execpc.com [169.207.3.102]) by core0.mx.execpc.com (8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA25137 for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2000 09:08:21 -0500 (CDT) Return-Path: Received: from scaup.prod.itd.earthlink.net (scaup.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.121.49]) by c.mx.execpc.com (8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA13391 for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2000 09:08:18 -0500 (CDT) Received: from earthlink.net (sdn-ar-006mnminnP284.dialsprint.net [168.191.108.214]) by scaup.prod.itd.earthlink.net (EL-8_9_3_3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA18563 for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2000 07:08:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <39E9BB5C.7064429D@earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2000 09:12:45 -0500 From: Daniel Boehmer X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: flykr2s@execpc.com Subject: Reply Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------621B4FD83142AAC62A89238C" X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 --------------621B4FD83142AAC62A89238C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit As an A&P mechanic I am aware that in many aircraft installations there may be 2 torques given in a manufacturer's torque tables. One is if the hardware is installed dry and the other is for when the hardware is installed with some type of lubricant. I am wondering if there is an equivalent installation on a commercial type reciprocating engine that comparison could bemade to. Dan --------------621B4FD83142AAC62A89238C Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit As an A&P mechanic I am aware that in many aircraft installations there may be 2 torques given in
a manufacturer's torque tables. One is if the hardware is installed dry and the other is for when the
hardware is installed with some type of lubricant. I am wondering if there is an equivalent installation
on a commercial type reciprocating engine that comparison could bemade to.

Dan --------------621B4FD83142AAC62A89238C-- --------------D83ED3194FDB460C90F675A4-- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2000 21:18:01 EDT To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: MiloKetchum@aol.com Subject: Cruddy fibreglass fuel tank Message-ID: Fellow Fliers, Just purchased a KR-2 Hanger Queen. She needs some TLC but will hopefully respond to my loving care. Her fuel tank has sticky residue inside. Is there anything I can use to flush the crud out? Milo Ketchum Temporarily Grounded in Checotah Oklahoma ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 22:39:57 -0500 To: , From: "Ted & Sarah Fields" Subject: Re: KR> Cruddy fibreglass fuel tank Message-ID: <004101c03659$97b848c0$970232cf@default> Have a metal tank made for it. Ted -----Original Message----- From: MiloKetchum@aol.com To: krnet@mailinglists.org Date: October 15, 2000 8:19 PM Subject: KR> Cruddy fibreglass fuel tank >Fellow Fliers, > Just purchased a KR-2 Hanger Queen. She needs some TLC but will >hopefully respond to my loving care. Her fuel tank has sticky residue >inside. Is there anything I can use to flush the crud out? >Milo Ketchum >Temporarily Grounded in Checotah Oklahoma > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org >To unsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org >For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 07:53:09 -0500 To: From: "Mark Langford" Subject: Re: KR> Cruddy fibreglass fuel tank Message-ID: <003001c03770$0a133670$58e6a58c@tbe.com> Ted Fields wrote: >Have a metal tank made for it. And then about a minute later sent this privately to me: >I would like to be taken off the net PLEASE. >TED >From the flight deck of N8706D Although he's not bright enough to unsubscribe himself, he doesn't mind making smart remarks about people's choices in fuel tank construction methods. The metal tank comment was completely uncalled for, and did nothing whatsoever to help Milo with his problem. This is the kind of comment that does absolutely nothing for anybody on KRNet, other than waste bandwidth and tick people off! Whenever I see some stupid comment that somebody makes, I start wondering if they've EVER made any kind of contribution to the KR community throught their posts. Clicking on the "From" header arranges the email in chronological order from that sender, and strolling through looking at their "wisdom". Their past posting history usually falls right in line with my suspicions. I looked at one the other day who had done nothing but ask moronic questions on subjects that are easily answered in any number of published places, but being too lazy to actually look for himself, he pesters the list instead. Although I try my best to put as much stuff out on the web as I can, I often wonder if anybody actually looks at it. I'm not fishing for "attaboys" here, just wishing people would do a little research of their own, and then share it with the rest of us, rather than being a parasite. I particularly liked the private post I got last weekend, when I guy emailed me that he "needed all the information that I had on the KR2, including CAD drawings, ASAP"! Give me a break! I'm not trying to stiffle communication here at all, because there are a lot of things that only KR builders and pilots can help you with, but ask yourself "gee, can I find this info in the plans, or the Aircraft Spruce Catalog" before you ask some dumb question. I must confess that I'm quickly approaching that point where I'm getting burnt out here. I spent the entire day yesterday screwing around on the computer (see http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/corvair/dyno.html ), rather than working on my plane, despite the fact that it was a gorgeous day, and perfect for composite work It seems the more I post, the more "net" work I create for myself. It's my own fault, and I've brought it on myself, but I'm going to do my best to keep a lower "net" profile for a while, and get more done on my plane. I've got work to do... Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama "Friends don't give friends Posa carbs" mailto:langford@hiwaay.net see KR2S N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 09:35:11 -0400 To: "'Mark Langford'" , krnet@mailinglists.org From: "Garland, Norm F" Subject: RE: KR> Cruddy fibreglass fuel tank Message-id: <114EB1876E7BD411AC700008C7E65FB6010DEEC3@emss03m11.orl.lmco.com> As I have only been "lurking " on the net for a short time I must confess that without the work of Mark and others I would not know much about the KR. I for one appreciate the work that has been put into his and many other web pages. The ability to see and read about how others are building is invaluable. About the subjects of fuel tanks, I have worked on drag racing cars that have a foam filled plastic cases (Summit) and road race cars with foam filled aluminum (custom built for the car). Is either one better than the other? The governing racing bodies (IHRA, NHRA, SCCA) don't seem to have any particular preferences. Because auto racing governing bodies don't use fiberglass does that mean they are not as good? Who knows! If you cause a traumatic incident to any of the tanks they will at the very least split open and spray fuel all over the place. Just watch a crash during an automobile race. The purpose of the internal foam is to baffle the fuel during turns and acceleration / deceleration along with minimizing the splash area in case of rupture, thereby hopefully limiting the area of possible burn. My message is : if you have the time to spend you can find a lot of good materials in the market place that will work. Will it work better? That's another one of those "Opinion " questions. Each one of us needs to do some good research and share the results with others (via the net). This is what I understand the purpose of this net is. Thanks for Norman F. Garland Jr. > -----Original Message----- > From: Mark Langford [SMTP:langford@hiwaay.net] > Sent: Monday, October 16, 2000 8:53 AM > To: krnet@mailinglists.org > Subject: Re: KR> Cruddy fibreglass fuel tank > > Ted Fields wrote: > > >Have a metal tank made for it. > > And then about a minute later sent this privately to me: > > >I would like to be taken off the net PLEASE. > >TED > >From the flight deck of N8706D > > Although he's not bright enough to unsubscribe himself, he doesn't mind > making smart remarks about people's choices in fuel tank construction > methods. The metal tank comment was completely uncalled for, and did > nothing whatsoever to help Milo with his problem. This is the kind of > comment that does absolutely nothing for anybody on KRNet, other than > waste > bandwidth and tick people off! > > Whenever I see some stupid comment that somebody makes, I start wondering > if > they've EVER made any kind of contribution to the KR community throught > their posts. Clicking on the "From" header arranges the email in > chronological order from that sender, and strolling through looking at > their > "wisdom". Their past posting history usually falls right in line with my > suspicions. I looked at one the other day who had done nothing but ask > moronic questions on subjects that are easily answered in any number of > published places, but being too lazy to actually look for himself, he > pesters the list instead. Although I try my best to put as much stuff out > on > the web as I can, I often wonder if anybody actually looks at it. I'm not > fishing for "attaboys" here, just wishing people would do a little > research > of their own, and then share it with the rest of us, rather than being a > parasite. I particularly liked the private post I got last weekend, when > I > guy emailed me that he "needed all the information that I had on the KR2, > including CAD drawings, ASAP"! Give me a break! > > I'm not trying to stiffle communication here at all, because there are a > lot > of things that only KR builders and pilots can help you with, but ask > yourself "gee, can I find this info in the plans, or the Aircraft Spruce > Catalog" before you ask some dumb question. > > I must confess that I'm quickly approaching that point where I'm getting > burnt out here. I spent the entire day yesterday screwing around on the > computer (see http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/corvair/dyno.html ), rather > than working on my plane, despite the fact that it was a gorgeous day, and > perfect for composite work > It seems the more I post, the more "net" work I create for myself. It's > my > own fault, and I've brought it on myself, but I'm going to do my best to > keep a lower "net" profile for a while, and get more done on my plane. > I've > got work to do... > > Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama > "Friends don't give friends Posa carbs" > mailto:langford@hiwaay.net > see KR2S N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org > To unsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 13:37:27 -0600 To: Mark Langford From: cartera CC: krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> Cruddy fibreglass fuel tank Message-ID: <39EB58F7.174DB650@cuug.ab.ca> It's my > own fault, and I've brought it on myself, but I'm going to do my best to > keep a lower "net" profile for a while, and get more done on my plane. I've > got work to do... > > Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama Hello Gang, I just could not this go by Mark. You have contributed a wealth of information for the serious builders. Don't let idiots like the one you had on the weekend shake you, they are just tire kickers anyway. I for one have no reservation of giving you a healthy whack (pat) on the back for your unselfish contributions. We do not need arrogant or flaming people of such self importance that never build a KR. Yes, forget this net for a while and work on your sweetheart. Many of us built our KR's long before the KR net, we know who the serious ones are. Unsubscribing can't be any simpler, just see where it is coming from. Good Building everyone! -- Adrian VE6AFY Calgary, Alberta Mailto:cartera@cuug.ab.ca http://www.cuug.ab.ca/~cartera ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2000 20:03:29 -0700 To: From: "Dave and Tina Goodman" Subject: Doubler on H Stab Message-ID: <002801c0371d$b403c8a0$57780ccf@oemcomputer> ------=_NextPart_000_0025_01C036E2.FCC5BCA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I asked a few of the more knowledgeable folks off line this question and = will throw it out to the general KR-Net. Does anyone know why the KR-2S = plans have a 36-inch plywood doubler on the aft spar? The KR-2 plans do = not have this doubler. Have there been cracks found in the aft spars of = KRs? Is it just to stiffen the H Stab? Any thoughts on the subject = could generate a good engineering discussion and go a long way toward = helping me sleep at night. Dave "Zipper" Goodman zipperts@whidbey.net =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0025_01C036E2.FCC5BCA0-- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2000 23:05:22 EDT To: KRNET@mailinglists.org From: MiloKetchum@aol.com Subject: ReENGINES ENGINES ENGINES! Message-ID: In a message dated 10/15/00 9:44:18 PM Central Daylight Time, MAILER-DAEMON@mailinglists.org writes: << Fellow Fliers, I own 3 engines and would like some input concerning my KR-2 Hanger Queen, (the one with the crud in the fuel tank). The engines are as follows: (1) A Subaru EA-81 (2) A Subaru EA-82 (3) A VW 2100. I really don't know which way to go! What I would like from the gang is a breakdown of engine weights, HP ranges at max & cruise and some prop specs. I know it's allot to ask, but so far no one has scolded me for asking, maybe this will be the straw. Thanks in advance, Milo Ketchum, Temporally Grounded in Checotah, Oklahoma >> ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2000 22:47:31 -0700 (PDT) To: KRNET@mailinglists.org From: Mike Mims Subject: Re: KR> ReENGINES ENGINES ENGINES! Message-ID: <20001016054731.6972.qmail@web1402.mail.yahoo.com> --- MiloKetchum@aol.com wrote: I own 3 engines and would like some input > concerning my KR-2 Hanger > Queen, (the one with the crud in the fuel tank). > The engines are as > follows: > (1) A Subaru EA-81 (2) A Subaru EA-82 (3) A VW > 2100. Unless you plan to turbo the Subarus go with the VW. ===== ........| .......-^- ....-/_____\- ...(O\__o__/O) ...[#]oxxxo[#] -----Y2K Bug--- Yes I had one! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Messenger - Talk while you surf! It's FREE. http://im.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 22:48:31 -0500 To: "Livingstone, Danny (DJ)" , From: "Ted & Sarah Fields" Subject: Re: KR> UNSUBSCRIBE/unsubscribe/UNSUBSCRIBE Message-ID: <006c01c0365a$ca042640$970232cf@default> -----Original Message----- From: Livingstone, Danny (DJ) To: krnet@mailinglists.org Date: October 15, 2000 1:01 AM Subject: RE: KR> UNSUBSCRIBE/unsubscribe/UNSUBSCRIBE >And these Guys are building aircraft !!!!!!! > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Mark Langford [SMTP:langford@hiwaay.net] >> Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2000 1:32 AM >> To: krnet@mailinglists.org >> Subject: Re: KR> UNSUBSCRIBE/unsubscribe/UNSUBSCRIBE >> >> On Woodward wrote: >> >> > UNSUBSCRIBE/unsubscribe/UNSUBSCRIBE >> >> OK guys. this is really not that tough. First, read the message at the >> bottom of each and every email that you receive from KRNet, paying >> particular attention to the one in the middle, "To unsubscribe, e-mail: >> krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org ". This means that all you have to do >> is >> double-click on the highlighted (if it's blue) URL and hit "send" when the >> blank message appears on your screen. If it's not blue, cut and paste the >> address into your "To" box in a blank message and then "send" it. If you >> don't know how to cut and paste, key the address into the "To" box and >> then >> "send" it. No other action is required. >> >> Note that simply "replying" to a KRNet email doesn't get you anywhere, no >> matter how many times you type "unsubscribe", whether or not you >> capitalize >> it, and regardless of where you put it. >> >> Maybe that's why we have 600 members. Nobody can figure out how to >> unsubscribe. I'm sorry we made it so difficult for you guys. Well, >> here's >> your way out! >> >> Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama >> mailto:langford@hiwaay.net >> see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford >> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > >********************************************************************** >This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and >intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they >are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify >the system manager. All opinions expressed are the sender's >own and not necessarily that of the employer. >********************************************************************** > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org >To unsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org >For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2000 22:49:19 -0700 (PDT) To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: Mike Mims Subject: Re: KR> which carb? Message-ID: <20001016054919.7089.qmail@web1402.mail.yahoo.com> --- "Dr. No" wrote: > I have an entire1835 sitting next to that boat thing > with wing stubs. > Entire, except for a carburator. I'm looking for > opinions on different > types (Posa, Zenith, GP, Revmaster, whatever). Of > course I do have a > spare 34 PICT 3 around here somewhere... Revmaster Revflow seems to always work well and its cheap. Doesnt need a fuel pump and has a very good mixture control. ===== ........| .......-^- ....-/_____\- ...(O\__o__/O) ...[#]oxxxo[#] -----Y2K Bug--- Yes I had one! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Messenger - Talk while you surf! It's FREE. http://im.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 19:14:02 EDT To: kr2sflyer@yahoo.com, krnet@mailinglists.org From: GARYKR2@cs.com Subject: Re: KR> which carb? Message-ID: <5d.1f66c5b.271ce5ba@cs.com> In a message dated 10/16/00 1:49:37 AM Eastern Daylight Time, kr2sflyer@yahoo.com writes: << -- "Dr. No" wrote: > I have an entire1835 sitting next to that boat thing > with wing stubs. > Entire, except for a carburator. I'm looking for > opinions on different > types (Posa, Zenith, GP, Revmaster, whatever). Of > course I do have a > spare 34 PICT 3 around here somewhere... >> I am very happy with the Zenith on my 2180. Very few people have been able to make the POSA work properly. Gary Hinkle (A/P) Middletown, Pa. garykr2@cs.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 20:00:04 -0400 To: GARYKR2@cs.com From: Kenneth L Wiltrout Cc: kr2sflyer@yahoo.com, krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> which carb? Message-ID: <20001016.200005.-154651.0.klw1953@juno.com> I'm using the new Rev-Flow,one thing that bothers me is the fact that once you turn on the fuel it starts to leak. I called Revmaster and they said this was normal. You are supposed to open the fuel valve on the bottom of the tank first, then when you are turning over the engine push in the mixture control to full rich. It does work well and all that, but you do need to be sure that you don't have a cowl full of fuel prior to firing it up. N6399U hasn't flown yet, once the weather gets a little colder and I'm forced to put the Goldwing away I should have the weight and balance done.---------------Kenny ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 20:10:04 -0400 To: , "Kenneth L Wiltrout" From: "Phil Maynard" Cc: , Subject: Re: KR> which carb? Message-ID: <00ca01c037ce$9b473660$c801a8c0@wall1.pa.home.com> Thats the downside of not needing a fuel pump. The posa is the same. I would turn on the fuel line, count to 5 and hit the starter. It was reliable starting once I knew the timing and if it wouldn't start, turn off the tank or it will all end up on the ground eventually. Phil Maynard Ridley Park, PA ----- Original Message ----- From: Kenneth L Wiltrout To: Cc: ; Sent: Monday, October 16, 2000 8:00 PM Subject: Re: KR> which carb? > > > I'm using the new Rev-Flow,one thing that bothers me is the fact that > once you turn on the fuel it starts to leak. I called Revmaster and they > said this was normal. > You are supposed to open the fuel valve on the bottom of the tank first, > then when you are turning over the engine push in the mixture control to > full rich. > It does work well and all that, but you do need to be sure that you don't > have a cowl full of fuel prior to firing it up. > N6399U hasn't flown yet, once the weather gets a little colder and I'm > forced to put the Goldwing away I should have the weight and balance > done.---------------Kenny > ________________________________________________________________ > YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! > Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! > Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org > To unsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 19:35:19 -0500 To: , , From: "JEAN VERON" Subject: Re: KR> which carb? Message-ID: <002e01c037d2$22ed22c0$ead8193f@computer> I have had all three. Posa, Zenith and Revflow. My Preferance was the Revflow for its mixture control but the Zenith was good down low. Don Betcham had a real neat home made mixture cintrol on his Zenith that I would have copied had I not already bought the Revflow. Posa's are trotline weights.Just my opinion. Jean N4DD Broken Arrow, OK ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Sent: Monday, October 16, 2000 6:14 PM Subject: Re: KR> which carb? > In a message dated 10/16/00 1:49:37 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > kr2sflyer@yahoo.com writes: > > << -- "Dr. No" wrote: > > I have an entire1835 sitting next to that boat thing > > with wing stubs. > > Entire, except for a carburator. I'm looking for > > opinions on different > > types (Posa, Zenith, GP, Revmaster, whatever). Of > > course I do have a > > spare 34 PICT 3 around here somewhere... >> > > I am very happy with the Zenith on my 2180. Very few people have > been able to make the POSA work properly. > Gary Hinkle (A/P) Middletown, Pa. > garykr2@cs.com > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org > To unsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 19:47:42 -0500 To: "Phil Maynard" , , "Kenneth L Wiltrout" From: "JEAN VERON" Cc: , Subject: Re: KR> which carb? Message-ID: <003c01c037d3$ddf93da0$ead8193f@computer> One thing I forgot to say in an earlier post is that both the Posa and Revflow without a plenum chamber the cylinders tends to run richer on the side that the fuel is introduced from. A swirler from one of the early news letters will solve this problem. Jean N4DD ----- Original Message ----- From: Phil Maynard To: ; Kenneth L Wiltrout Cc: ; Sent: Monday, October 16, 2000 7:10 PM Subject: Re: KR> which carb? > Thats the downside of not needing a fuel pump. The posa is the same. I would > turn on the fuel line, count to 5 and hit the starter. It was reliable > starting once I knew the timing and if it wouldn't start, turn off the tank > or it will all end up on the ground eventually. > > Phil Maynard > Ridley Park, PA > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Kenneth L Wiltrout > To: > Cc: ; > Sent: Monday, October 16, 2000 8:00 PM > Subject: Re: KR> which carb? > > > > > > > > I'm using the new Rev-Flow,one thing that bothers me is the fact that > > once you turn on the fuel it starts to leak. I called Revmaster and they > > said this was normal. > > You are supposed to open the fuel valve on the bottom of the tank first, > > then when you are turning over the engine push in the mixture control to > > full rich. > > It does work well and all that, but you do need to be sure that you don't > > have a cowl full of fuel prior to firing it up. > > N6399U hasn't flown yet, once the weather gets a little colder and I'm > > forced to put the Goldwing away I should have the weight and balance > > done.---------------Kenny > > ________________________________________________________________ > > YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! > > Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! > > Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: > > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org > To unsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 22:06:29 -0400 To: , "Kenneth L Wiltrout" From: "Phil Maynard" Cc: , Subject: Re: KR> which carb? Message-ID: <012601c037de$de542de0$c801a8c0@wall1.pa.home.com> ----- Original Message ----- From: Phil Maynard To: ; Kenneth L Wiltrout Cc: ; Sent: Monday, October 16, 2000 8:10 PM Subject: Re: KR> which carb? > Thats the downside of not needing a fuel pump. Make that float bowl. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 13:06:28 GMT To: tracy@localaccess.com, Sonerai1@worldshare.net, krnet@mailinglists.org From: "Jerry Mahurin" Subject: Re: KR> Gear Springs Message-ID: Tell us more about the Summit Racing fuel cell.... Jerry Mahurin Lugoff, SC >From: Tracy & Carol O'Brien >To: "Tim Bellville" , >Subject: Re: KR> Gear Springs >Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2000 14:18:34 -0700 > >Netters, > >The Corby Starlet uses steel gear legs: You can contact them at > >CSN 1335 Robinhood Lane, S. Lakeland, FL 33813 > >I believe that Hammerhead aviation can also supply steel legs: >www.hammerhead-aviation.com > >Tracy O'Brien > >PS: re fuel filters and F/G tanks: My $100.00 twelve gallon racing fuel >cell from Summit Racing is looking better all the time! > >At 08:34 AM 10/14/2000 -0400, Tim Bellville wrote: > >I know this is off topic and a different Airplane but this list has been >so > >helpful in the past I thought I'd try. > >I am looking for a steel gear spring for my sonerai as I plan on doing >alot > >of flying from grass strips, and I want a stronger main gear then the > >aluminum. > >Does anyone have one that they would sell or trade? > >Thanks > >Tim > >Sonerai I > >N2206X > > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > >To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org > > > >To unsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > > > >For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > > > > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org >To unsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org >For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 10:48:14 -0700 To: myrddin@usa.net,Sonerai1@worldshare.net,krnet@mailinglists.org From: Tracy & Carol O'Brien Subject: Re: KR> Gear Springs Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.20001016104814.00733c8c@localaccess.com> At 01:06 PM 10/16/2000 GMT, Jerry Mahurin wrote: >Tell us more about the Summit Racing fuel cell.... The Summit racing fuel cell I purchased is going in a 2 place, high wing Subaru powered original design, so the particular tank I'm using might be a bit tall for KR's. (They ghave a variety of sizes and shapes, including an 8 gallon drag racing tank, 17" x 17" x 8" that might make a good header tank for KR's) My tank holds 12 gallons and measures 17" x 16" x 10" deep. It is designed for drag racing applications so it has a wedge shaped sump on the bottom with dual AN-8 outlet fittings facing outward from the sump. It also has an AN-6 vent fitting and a positive locking flush fill. The tank is made of seamless, rotomolded polyethylene and is foam filled. (The US Coast Guard loves rotomolded tanks and would rather see them in a boat than anything else, including welded aluminum and welded stainless steel). I paid $94.95 for my tank, plus $6.95 handling. You can contact Summit Racing at 800-230-3030 or www.summitracing.com Regards Tracy O'Brien ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 16:34:35 -0400 To: From: "George Allen" Subject: Comments Message-ID: <002c01c037b0$8b8e3b60$e2a7dcd8@george> ------=_NextPart_000_0029_01C0378E.F83E73A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable , From: "Robert Stone" Subject: Re: KR> Comments Message-ID: <000801c03838$745315a0$0101a8c0@pavilion> George: When you start building, Any comments you put on the net will be worth much more than two cents because you will be speaking from hands on experience. Don't under rate yourself. Bob Stone ----- Original Message ----- From: "George Allen" To: Sent: Monday, October 16, 2000 3:34 PM Subject: KR> Comments From: "Phil Maynard" Subject: fuel/carbs Message-ID: <00ac01c037c9$679efa00$c801a8c0@wall1.pa.home.com> ------=_NextPart_000_00A9_01C037A7.DF4FF800 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable A couple of more fuel/carb comments, I was talked out of taking the first flight in my KR2 by more = experienced pilots. It was test flown by a guy who liked it so much he = wanted to roll it on that first flight but he said it was starting to = run a little rough. He thought it was carb ice. I knew the posa wouldn't = ice up so I started to look for other things. I had read about = modifiying the mixture needle on the posa which I had already done. I = modified it some more and a week later took it up myself and after 20 = minutes/ to a half hour it did run slightly rough. After that flight and = test running it some more I came to the conclusion that it seemed like = fuel was accumulating in the induction downstream from the posa. I = modified my needle some more and I never had any trouble after that. I = also had the mixture control which I used. Since all of the fuel in the = posa comes out through 1 opening and in particular when the throtle is = open that opening is relatively large, (much larger I believe than a = venturi carb) it would seem harder for it to clog than other carbs. A = lot of people seem to hate the Posa and I'm not trying to talk anybody = into using one, my own experience was a little trouble at first and then = no problems. I'm neutral on the posa. The other thing was I built a 1" brass plumbing gate valve in the bottom = of my header tank that I could reach in flight. It ran to a short = plastic tube cut flush with the outside of the fulelage. It emptied a = full tank (12 gal) in 90 seconds. I only tested it with water before = putting the tank in the plane. This surely would have very limited use = and could well be a case of the cure being worse than the disease. The = valve itself could introduce a point of failure during normal use and = also during an impact. In particular I was concerned that this valve = sticking out of the bottom of my tank could be snapped off in the event = of a crash that broke up the fulelage. It wouldn't help except where you = had a complete engine failure at enough altitude to complete the dump = before impact, in an engine failure on takeoff you sure wouldn't want to = contact the ground with fuel pouring out the side of the fuselage. So I = don't know if it realistically is a good idea or not but I put it out = there to consider. I can't think of a way to put in a valve like that, = that doesn't weaken the tank or introduce some kind of vulnerability of = it's own. Phil Maynard Ridley Park, PA ------=_NextPart_000_00A9_01C037A7.DF4FF800-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 16:32:51 -0700 To: From: "Dave and Tina Goodman" Subject: Doublers on the H Stab Message-ID: <003701c037c9$6fce0220$99780ccf@oemcomputer> ------=_NextPart_000_0034_01C0378E.BA4D84A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Okay folks. I got the skinny from Rand Robinson today on my question of = yesterday. The bottom line is that the 1/4 inch doubler is not "needed" = but will stiffen the aft spar if installed. Part of the reason it was = added was in anticipation of people putting bigger motors on the = airframe (read 3100 Corvair, Continental, etc.) and/or flying the = airframe over 200 MPH. The 200 MPH Vne is a recommended number, picked = as a "safe" airspeed to not exceed (read this very conservative). The engineer who added the 1/4-inch plywood to the aft spar was using = his aircraft in pylon racing in Reno. He felt the added doubler was = needed for his aircraft, and added it to the plans when they were redone = in '92. There are no known (by RR) incidents where the aft spar of the H-Stab = was found to be weak or in need of additional stiffening based on the = engines that have been used in the past. Flying over 200 MPH, = aerobatics and large powerplants may cause that to change without the = doubler. Dave "Zipper" Goodman zipperts@whidbey.net =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0034_01C0378E.BA4D84A0-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 20:17:42 -0400 To: "Dave and Tina Goodman" , From: "Phil Maynard" Subject: Re: KR> Doublers on the H Stab Message-ID: <00d501c037cf$adeb2280$c801a8c0@wall1.pa.home.com> I believe the kr2 will get an elevator flutter at 235 if it's unbalanced. I would be VERY carefull about exceeding the VNE or not taking it seriously without knowing what it was based on and what the flight testing and or calculations showed. At some point the thing is going to come apart and you really want to know where that point is. Phil Maynard Ridley PArk, PA ----- Original Message ----- From: Dave and Tina Goodman To: Sent: Monday, October 16, 2000 7:32 PM Subject: KR> Doublers on the H Stab Okay folks. I got the skinny from Rand Robinson today on my question of yesterday. The bottom line is that the 1/4 inch doubler is not "needed" but will stiffen the aft spar if installed. Part of the reason it was added was in anticipation of people putting bigger motors on the airframe (read 3100 Corvair, Continental, etc.) and/or flying the airframe over 200 MPH. The 200 MPH Vne is a recommended number, picked as a "safe" airspeed to not exceed (read this very conservative). Dave "Zipper" Goodman zipperts@whidbey.net ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 18:58:34 -0700 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: rme114@juno.com Subject: Re; Langford, Re;Ted Feilds Message-ID: <20001016.185946.-435861.1.rme114@juno.com> Come on man, get out of the sand box !! My name is Steve and I'm the guy that bought a KR2 from Ted Feilds and guess what the main problem with it was ? That built in "plastic" fuel tank leaked. After a repair was attempted it still leaked. Being there, an obvious solution was to build a tank seperate of the airplane. Ted had even costructed a fuel tank of cardboard to fit perfectly, from that he drew up plans so that a metal tank would be built to fit perfectly. I was thankful to him for including all that with the airplane when I took it. .... Maybe a smarter man would just use a chain saw to remove his tank to flush out crud or bad or old gas or add a sender unit or , gee, fix a leak...... You know, with a hard enough rap in just the right spot , you could turn that pretty little bird into a flying bomb (coffin).. I'm glad to have met you, Ted. Steve in Bisbee ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 07:46:08 EDT To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: KR2616TJ@aol.com Subject: Re: KR> Re; Langford, Re;Ted Feilds Message-ID: <34.bc7d896.271d9600@aol.com> In a message dated 10/16/2000 9:56:26 PM Eastern Daylight Time, rme114@juno.com writes: << Come on man, get out of the sand box !! My name is Steve and I'm the guy that bought a KR2 from Ted Feilds >> Guys, not to start a fight but comments like this are not appreciated, or allowed, on the KRNet. Keep these to yourself, we do reserve the right, and ability, to make people disappear........................Trust me, I'll not jump into the foxhole on this one. Dana Overall 2000 KR Gathering host Richmond, KY mailto:kr2616tj@aol.com http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/7085/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 19:17:50 -0700 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: Ross Youngblood Subject: [Fwd: KR> which carb?] Message-ID: <39EBB6CE.F9EC79F8@teleport.com> --------------EBCF822C886EBE46AB205F07 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit When you email this guy, tell him to email or join krnet@mailinglists.org, not krnet@krnet.org.... Hmmm... perhaps I should forward mail from there Hmmm. -- Ross --------------EBCF822C886EBE46AB205F07 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Received: by relay1 (mbox rossy) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Mon Oct 16 19:10:54 2000) X-From_: krnet-return-2547-rossy=teleport.com@mailinglists.org Sun Oct 15 06:41:01 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: rossy@teleport.com Received: (qmail 5336 invoked from network); 15 Oct 2000 06:41:01 -0000 Received: from server1.mailinglists.org (HELO mailinglists.org) (63.160.175.18) by smtp8.teleport.com with SMTP; 15 Oct 2000 06:41:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 16003 invoked by alias); 15 Oct 2000 06:40:52 -0000 Mailing-List: contact krnet-help@mailinglists.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: Delivered-To: mailing list krnet@mailinglists.org Received: (qmail 15994 invoked from network); 15 Oct 2000 06:40:52 -0000 Message-ID: <39E9514B.2FCBE14A@pol.net> Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2000 01:40:21 -0500 From: "Dr. No" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en-US,fr-FR,es MIME-Version: 1.0 To: krnet Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: KR> which carb? X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 I have an entire1835 sitting next to that boat thing with wing stubs. Entire, except for a carburator. I'm looking for opinions on different types (Posa, Zenith, GP, Revmaster, whatever). Of course I do have a spare 34 PICT 3 around here somewhere... Scott 1/2 of KR2.5 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org To unsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org --------------EBCF822C886EBE46AB205F07-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 23:07:15 EDT To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: MiloKetchum@aol.com Subject: Thanks for all the input on my cruddy fibreglass tank! Message-ID: <4a.c34d53d.271d1c63@aol.com> Fellow Fliers, I never thought I would receive so much response on the cruddy tank dilemma! It must be a common problem! I have no desire now to attempt to revive this tank. I know some skilled metalworkers and will explore the aluminum tank. Also, thanks for the answer to the engines engines engines. Your combined experience has helped me narrow my search. Just out of curiosity, are there any KR-2 flying with the Subaru EJ-22? Thanks again! Milo Ketchum, Temporarily Grounded in Checotah Oklahoma ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 08:56:04 EDT To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: GoFlySlow2@aol.com Subject: V.W. voltage output Message-ID: KR guys, I don't seem to be adequately charging my 17AH battery. There a three (3) wires coming out of the V.W. case. 2 black and 1 red. I have the 2 black (A.C.? from the engine) wires going to the A.C. input of the Regulator/ Rectifier. I measured output and confirmed D.C. 12volt (variable with RPM changes) output from the Reg/Rectifier while disconnected from the battery. The on board electronics, Radio, Mode C, electric gyro, ect, easily over use the available output and end up depleting the battery. Am I missing something? The 3rd red wire from the case is not hooked up to anything. I'm fairly familiar with this type of electrical setup in Rotax and Hirth engines. Is output increased by attaching the third (red) wire to one of the black A.C. wires (ala 110 volt to 220volt in home wiring?) No engine manual came with plane. One other question, in your opinion(s), what's the best way to go to 2180cc +or- displacement utilizing my current 1835cc engine. Thanks, Chuck Scrivner http://www.angelfire.com/biz6/MFM (KR-2 pics) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 12:22:53 -0600 To: "krnet@mailinglists.org" From: "Carson J. Cassidy" Subject: Fuel Tanks Message-ID: <39EC98FD.99468BDC@home.com> Hi everyone, I completed a removeable fiberglass fuel tank for my KR2S project some time back and have been giving some consideration to coating the inside of the tank with a rubberized slosh coat. Has anyone tried this? Is there a downside to trying it? Thanks. Carson Cassidy Calgary, Alberta ------------------------------ End of krnet Digest ***********************************