From: To: Subject: krnet Digest 17 Nov 2000 01:04:40 -0000 Issue 125 Date: Thursday, November 16, 2000 5:05 PM krnet Digest 17 Nov 2000 01:04:40 -0000 Issue 125 Topics (messages 2958 through 2984): NEWSLETTERs 2958 by: Phil Visconti 2962 by: Phil Visconti 2965 by: Mark Langford 2969 by: Peter Nauta 2973 by: David Mullins 2979 by: virgnvs.juno.com Special Sale 2959 by: DClarke351.aol.com Re: Teflon Tape 2960 by: Florin L Pintea 2961 by: Florin L Pintea 2970 by: Robert E. Moser 2978 by: virgnvs.juno.com ? 2963 by: Al Friesen Re: rudder pedal return spring 2964 by: AviationMech.aol.com attachments 2966 by: Mark Langford Re: Finish Paint techniques 2967 by: Michael Meyer 2968 by: Ned Thomas 2980 by: Albert Pecoraro 2981 by: Ned Thomas pants 2971 by: Boyers Interesting item on eBay web site item#499575721: TRW FORGED CORVAIR PISTONS (6) 2972 by: flykr2s.execpc.com rotax conversion 2974 by: Αβραμίδης Πέτρος 2975 by: Αβραμίδης Πέτρος 2976 by: Ned Thomas 2977 by: Ned Thomas 2983 by: Robert E. Moser subaru engine for sale 2982 by: w.g. kirkland fuel tanks 2984 by: Carter Pond Administrivia: To subscribe to the digest, e-mail: To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail: To post to the list, e-mail: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 16:45:38 -0500 To: KRNET@mailinglists.org From: Phil Visconti Subject: NEWSLETTERs Message-ID: <3A11B282.8EB9209C@gis.net> --------------B575A4BD704A1556A92056E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have gone thru my Newsletters and I can not find any statement that info in letters is proprietary. Except for about 20 issues (originally I had said only 3) I have issues one thru 195. The original Editor was Ernest Koppe and then published by John Forrester and then Judy and Earl Teporten. I have not been able to get Mark's site for the letters either. The attachment with this E-mail is my Index for articles I found interesting. It is a TIF file and 1,086KB. Phil Visconti Marlboro, MA --------------B575A4BD704A1556A92056E0-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 17:17:32 -0500 To: KRNET@mailinglists.org From: Phil Visconti Subject: NEWSLETTERs Message-ID: <3A11B9FC.39DFD698@gis.net> --------------8BF3AC202C4D931E243EC71C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit SORRY>>>>I can't send TIF file because mailinglists will not accept large files. I'll see if I can send it to Mark so he can post on http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford. Phil --------------8BF3AC202C4D931E243EC71C-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 19:24:02 -0600 To: From: "Mark Langford" Subject: Re: KR> NEWSLETTERs Message-ID: <003501c04ea2$bd516330$f2de8e18@300emachine> "Phil Visconti" wrote: > The attachment with this E-mail is my Index for articles I found > interesting. It is a TIF file and 1,086KB. I shrunk that file considerably (30k) and posted it to http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/nl_index_1.gif . I also posted a more detailed index (that I think came out of a newsletter) that covers the first 56 issues to http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/nl_index_2.gif . There's another very comprehensive one for all issues up to April of 95 (five pages long), but I'd probably be in hot water for copyright infringement since it appeared in the May 1995 issue, and I have this project I should be working on anyway. If somebody feels like it, it would be a great learning/helping experience to create a text file index of ALL the newsletters, which could then be posted to the web, and would be the private work of an individual, rather than plagiarized from the newsletter. Reading every one of the posted newsletters (and whatever others you can get ahold of) should be considered mandatory before ever cutting a piece of spruce. The copyright notice ("any reproduction in print or electronic of this newsletter without written permission will be considered copyright infringement and subject to aggressive legal action") first appeared in the KR Newsletter in the September-October issue of 1996. This is about the time at which us very early KRNetters were discussing the very issue of collecting, scanning, and posting the newsletters online. Don't get me started on this story, but suffice it to say that Earl got wind of it and added this threatening verbage at that time. You know, Monte, I'll bet if you scanned every one of the Newsletters and put them all on a CD (which would cost you 20 cents each) you could sell them for $50 and we'd ALL be happy! The first 84 have been done for you, and with the advent of copier/scanners in which you just feed them in and they get scanned automatically, it'd be a piece of cake to scan them all. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if several KRNetters wouldn't volunteer to do it for free, in exchange for the opportunity to read them. You'd sell a lot of CDs, the information would be out there, and we'd all be building safer airplanes... Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama mailto:langford@hiwaay.net see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 08:02:32 +0100 To: "Krnet@Mailinglists. Org" From: "Peter Nauta" Subject: RE: KR> NEWSLETTERs Message-ID: Mark, Enlighten us new ones: who are those "owners" of kr newsletters, why don't they want to release valuable info submitted for free by other builders, do they want to be paid for it, can one order back copies? This is highly frustrating, and looks stupid to me. I have all the public newsletters, which Mark Loughleed has on his site at fortunecity.com, which I find valuable in the whole building pprocess. Sorry if you've been up this road many times before. When something like this happens to be, I feel getting the real reason and maybe pursuading the owners can't be done often enough. Regards, Peter Nauta PS Any votes on this one? > -----Original Message----- > From: Mark Langford [mailto:langford@hiwaay.net] > Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2000 2:24 AM > To: KRNET@mailinglists.org > Subject: Re: KR> NEWSLETTERs > > > "Phil Visconti" wrote: > > > The attachment with this E-mail is my Index for articles I found > > interesting. It is a TIF file and 1,086KB. > > I shrunk that file considerably (30k) and posted it to > http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/nl_index_1.gif . > > I also posted a more detailed index (that I think came out of a > newsletter) > that covers the first 56 issues to > http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/nl_index_2.gif . There's another very > comprehensive one for all issues up to April of 95 (five pages long), but > I'd probably be in hot water for copyright infringement since it > appeared in > the May 1995 issue, and I have this project I should be working on anyway. > If somebody feels like it, it would be a great learning/helping experience > to create a text file index of ALL the newsletters, which could then be > posted to the web, and would be the private work of an individual, rather > than plagiarized from the newsletter. Reading every one of the posted > newsletters (and whatever others you can get ahold of) should be > considered > mandatory before ever cutting a piece of spruce. > > The copyright notice ("any reproduction in print or electronic of this > newsletter without written permission will be considered copyright > infringement and subject to aggressive legal action") first > appeared in the > KR Newsletter in the September-October issue of 1996. This is about the > time at which us very early KRNetters were discussing the very issue of > collecting, scanning, and posting the newsletters online. Don't get me > started on this story, but suffice it to say that Earl got wind of it and > added this threatening verbage at that time. > > You know, Monte, I'll bet if you scanned every one of the Newsletters and > put them all on a CD (which would cost you 20 cents each) you could sell > them for $50 and we'd ALL be happy! The first 84 have been done for you, > and with the advent of copier/scanners in which you just feed them in and > they get scanned automatically, it'd be a piece of cake to scan them all. > In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if several KRNetters wouldn't > volunteer to > do it for free, in exchange for the opportunity to read them. > You'd sell a > lot of CDs, the information would be out there, and we'd all be building > safer airplanes... > > Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama > mailto:langford@hiwaay.net > see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org > To unsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 11:31:11 -0500 From: David Mullins CC: KRNET@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> NEWSLETTERs Message-ID: <3A12BA4F.6CB19EE0@ici.net> Mark and KRNetters My work has in its plans to purchase a large scale document scanner. It scans 65 pages a minute. so, doing this would not be such a large proposition after we acquire this scanner. I will keep the net informed about it. Dave M Nashua, New Hampshire Mark Langford wrote: > > "Phil Visconti" wrote: > > > The attachment with this E-mail is my Index for articles I found > > interesting. It is a TIF file and 1,086KB. > > I shrunk that file considerably (30k) and posted it to > http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/nl_index_1.gif . > > I also posted a more detailed index (that I think came out of a newsletter) > that covers the first 56 issues to > http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/nl_index_2.gif . There's another very > comprehensive one for all issues up to April of 95 (five pages long), but > I'd probably be in hot water for copyright infringement since it appeared in > the May 1995 issue, and I have this project I should be working on anyway. > If somebody feels like it, it would be a great learning/helping experience > to create a text file index of ALL the newsletters, which could then be > posted to the web, and would be the private work of an individual, rather > than plagiarized from the newsletter. Reading every one of the posted > newsletters (and whatever others you can get ahold of) should be considered > mandatory before ever cutting a piece of spruce. > > The copyright notice ("any reproduction in print or electronic of this > newsletter without written permission will be considered copyright > infringement and subject to aggressive legal action") first appeared in the > KR Newsletter in the September-October issue of 1996. This is about the > time at which us very early KRNetters were discussing the very issue of > collecting, scanning, and posting the newsletters online. Don't get me > started on this story, but suffice it to say that Earl got wind of it and > added this threatening verbage at that time. > > You know, Monte, I'll bet if you scanned every one of the Newsletters and > put them all on a CD (which would cost you 20 cents each) you could sell > them for $50 and we'd ALL be happy! The first 84 have been done for you, > and with the advent of copier/scanners in which you just feed them in and > they get scanned automatically, it'd be a piece of cake to scan them all. > In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if several KRNetters wouldn't volunteer to > do it for free, in exchange for the opportunity to read them. You'd sell a > lot of CDs, the information would be out there, and we'd all be building > safer airplanes... > > Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama > mailto:langford@hiwaay.net > see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org > To unsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 22:10:52 -0500 To: langford@hiwaay.net From: virgnvs@juno.com Cc: KRNET@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> NEWSLETTERs Message-ID: <20001115.224147.-334741.0.virgnvs@juno.com> Have ALL KR Newsletters and KR Quarterlies, Virg On Tue, 14 Nov 2000 19:24:02 -0600 "Mark Langford" writes: > "Phil Visconti" wrote: > > > The attachment with this E-mail is my Index for articles I found > > interesting. It is a TIF file and 1,086KB. > > I shrunk that file considerably (30k) and posted it to > http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/nl_index_1.gif . > > I also posted a more detailed index (that I think came out of a > newsletter) > that covers the first 56 issues to > http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/nl_index_2.gif . There's another > very > comprehensive one for all issues up to April of 95 (five pages > long), but > I'd probably be in hot water for copyright infringement since it > appeared in > the May 1995 issue, and I have this project I should be working on > anyway. > If somebody feels like it, it would be a great learning/helping > experience > to create a text file index of ALL the newsletters, which could then > be > posted to the web, and would be the private work of an individual, > rather > than plagiarized from the newsletter. Reading every one of the > posted > newsletters (and whatever others you can get ahold of) should be > considered > mandatory before ever cutting a piece of spruce. > > The copyright notice ("any reproduction in print or electronic of > this > newsletter without written permission will be considered copyright > infringement and subject to aggressive legal action") first > appeared in the > KR Newsletter in the September-October issue of 1996. This is about > the > time at which us very early KRNetters were discussing the very issue > of > collecting, scanning, and posting the newsletters online. Don't get > me > started on this story, but suffice it to say that Earl got wind of > it and > added this threatening verbage at that time. > > You know, Monte, I'll bet if you scanned every one of the > Newsletters and > put them all on a CD (which would cost you 20 cents each) you could > sell > them for $50 and we'd ALL be happy! The first 84 have been done for > you, > and with the advent of copier/scanners in which you just feed them > in and > they get scanned automatically, it'd be a piece of cake to scan them > all. > In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if several KRNetters wouldn't > volunteer to > do it for free, in exchange for the opportunity to read them. You'd > sell a > lot of CDs, the information would be out there, and we'd all be > building > safer airplanes... > > Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama > mailto:langford@hiwaay.net > see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org > To unsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 16:51:40 EST To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: DClarke351@aol.com Subject: Special Sale Message-ID: Sale, Sale, Sale! My 1984 EA81 Subaru Engine is on sale for $350.00 + shipping. You wil need to supply the redrive. Don Clarke 915-755-0588 or E-Mail. Have pictures. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 15:04:06 -0700 To: , From: "Florin L Pintea" Cc: Subject: RE: KR> Teflon Tape Message-ID: I.M.H.O. if the threads didn't cut through the Teflon tape, the sending unit is probably too lose anyway and chances are you'd have a leak. Pressure sending unit reads pressure through the hole in the tip of the probe that is screwed into the oil gallery, hopefully one doesn't have tape wound on it that far anyway. Pipe threads are self sealing by nature, so theoretically one shouldn't need any pipe sealing compound especially because the block and the sending unit are made of dissimilar metal, one is softer than the other and one will conform to the other. If you do use it, use common sense and you will be fine. I would personally prefer "Leak-Lock" or the paste version of Teflon sealant also providing you don't use too much of it so that it will not get oozing into the engine. Same thing could happen with silicone (gasket maker) if you used too much of it on any other part of the engine. I saw a number of engines that had silicone squished on the inside and outside because the "technician" thought that a lot of it would seal better, which is not true; if you have two good mating surfaces a thin film of sealant will do. It's kind of like putting too much oil into your engine....doesn't help a bit, on the contrary it may create problems. The rest of the sealant will just clog the system. Again, just use common sense and you'll be fine. Happy engine building. About finished the canoe!.... :) Web site coming soon FLORIN L. PINTEA KR-2S SKUNK WORKS @ CALGARY, ALBERTA, CANADA mailto: florinpi@home.com -----Original Message----- From: virgnvs@juno.com [mailto:virgnvs@juno.com] Sent: November 14, 2000 6:55 AM To: KR2616TJ@aol.com Cc: krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> Teflon Tape Could be that the pressure sender uses the threads to complete the ground circuit. If not tightened properly you would not complete that circuit, no pressure reading, Virg Huff Puff On Tue, 14 Nov 2000 07:41:38 EST KR2616TJ@aol.com writes: > Who posted the thread about you not using teflon tape because it's > insulating > properties. Could you expound on this? > > > > Dana Overall > 2000 KR Gathering host > Richmond, KY > mailto:kr2616tj@aol.com > http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/hangar/7085/ > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org > To unsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org To unsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 15:07:02 -0700 To: , From: "Florin L Pintea" Cc: Subject: RE: KR> Teflon Tape Message-ID: I.M.H.O. if the threads didn't cut through the Teflon tape, the sending unit is probably too lose anyway and chances are you'd have a leak. Pressure sending unit reads pressure through the hole in the tip of the probe that is screwed into the oil gallery, hopefully one doesn't have tape wound on it that far anyway. Pipe threads are self sealing by nature, so theoretically one shouldn't need any pipe sealing compound especially because the block and the sending unit are made of dissimilar metal, one is softer than the other and one will conform to the other. If you do use it, use common sense and you will be fine. I would personally prefer "Leak-Lock" or the paste version of Teflon sealant also providing you don't use too much of it so that it will not get oozing into the engine. Same thing could happen with silicone (gasket maker) if you used too much of it on any other part of the engine. I saw a number of engines that had silicone squished on the inside and outside because the "technician" thought that a lot of it would seal better, which is not true; if you have two good mating surfaces a thin film of sealant will do. It's kind of like putting too much oil into your engine....doesn't help a bit, on the contrary it may create problems. The rest of the sealant will just clog the system. Again, just use common sense and you'll be fine. Happy engine building. About finished the canoe!.... :) Web site coming soon FLORIN L. PINTEA KR-2S SKUNK WORKS @ CALGARY, ALBERTA, CANADA mailto: florinpi@home.com -----Original Message----- From: virgnvs@juno.com [mailto:virgnvs@juno.com] Sent: November 14, 2000 6:55 AM To: KR2616TJ@aol.com Cc: krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> Teflon Tape Could be that the pressure sender uses the threads to complete the ground circuit. If not tightened properly you would not complete that circuit, no pressure reading, Virg Huff Puff On Tue, 14 Nov 2000 07:41:38 EST KR2616TJ@aol.com writes: > Who posted the thread about you not using teflon tape because it's > insulating > properties. Could you expound on this? > > > > Dana Overall > 2000 KR Gathering host > Richmond, KY > mailto:kr2616tj@aol.com > http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/hangar/7085/ > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org > To unsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org To unsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 21:43:44 -0500 To: "KR Network" From: "Robert E. Moser" Subject: Re: KR> Teflon Tape Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20001114214113.00b04b20@viper> In automotive work, you don't use teflon tape on oil senders for two reasons: 1) it will eventually deteriorate and flake off into the lubricant, causing problems when it stops up oil passages, 2) it is an insulator, which affects electrical oil senders (you don't have a ground). #2 does not apply, of course, to mechanical gauges. Robert At 07:41 AM 11/14/00 -0500, you wrote: >Who posted the thread about you not using teflon tape because it's insulating >properties. Could you expound on this? > > > >Dana Overall >2000 KR Gathering host >Richmond, KY >mailto:kr2616tj@aol.com >http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/hangar/7085/ > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org >To unsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org >For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 22:26:47 -0500 To: araw@dicomsolutions.com From: virgnvs@juno.com Cc: krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> Teflon Tape Message-ID: <20001115.224147.-334741.3.virgnvs@juno.com> #1, Wrong. If applied properly it will NEVER get into the lubricant, Virg On Tue, 14 Nov 2000 21:43:44 -0500 "Robert E. Moser" writes: > In automotive work, you don't use teflon tape on oil senders for two > reasons: > > 1) it will eventually deteriorate and flake off into the lubricant, > > causing problems when it stops up oil passages, > 2) it is an insulator, which affects electrical oil senders (you > don't > have a ground). > > #2 does not apply, of course, to mechanical gauges. > > Robert > > At 07:41 AM 11/14/00 -0500, you wrote: > >Who posted the thread about you not using teflon tape because it's > insulating > >properties. Could you expound on this? > > > > > > > >Dana Overall > >2000 KR Gathering host > >Richmond, KY > >mailto:kr2616tj@aol.com > >http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/hangar/7085/ > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > >To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org > >To unsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > >For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org > To unsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 17:19:49 -0800 To: From: "Al Friesen" Subject: ? Message-ID: <009b01c04ea2$2a9a5600$60cb6cce@s8z8i0> ------=_NextPart_000_0098_01C04E5F.18359BC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi netters, Does anyone know of Mark Eder? He started my KR2S project, with the last = inspection done in 1996. He used to live near Calgary, Alberta, was = transfered so he sold to the person I bought it from. Any help would be = appreciated as I would like to let him know that his baby is about a = month from testing if all goes well with the detail stuff yet to be = done. Al Friesen To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org To unsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org ------=_NextPart_000_0098_01C04E5F.18359BC0-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 19:40:57 EST To: KR2616TJ@aol.com, krnet@mailinglists.org From: AviationMech@aol.com Subject: Re: KR> rudder pedal return spring Message-ID: In a message dated 11/13/00 8:16:19 AM Eastern Standard Time, KR2616TJ@aol.com writes: << I just like the spring system better. It's my decision. >> Well Dana, you got my vote and according to my spring count you're elected. My hardware store springs are attached to the firewall and only keep tension on the cables to keep them from flopping around. They have done a good job for 16 years. Orma Aviationmech@AOL.com Builder and Pilot, KR-2 N110LR, 1984-2000 AP with Inspection Authorization ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 19:45:49 -0600 To: From: "Mark Langford" Subject: attachments Message-ID: <004501c04ea5$cd75be70$f2de8e18@300emachine> In case ya'll are wondering about what attachments "make it" and which ones don't, it's done in a fairly bizarre manner, by which files are EXCLUDED by extension. That's a long list, but it did not include .jpg until I noticed it's absence and added it. If I ever find a way, I'll make sure that NO files are allowed as attachments, in the interest of virus prevention, but that luxury doesn't exist at this point. I know some people would be pretty hacked at getting unsolicited 1 meg files, so that's another reason not to do it. When I was in Wales and my hotel modem connection was costing something like a dollar a minute, I'd have been fit to be tied! Oh, and if the votes aren't counted yet, I have a closed rudder cable system, but I think springs would be just fine, but then I might have just been confused... Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama mailto:langford@hiwaay.net see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 23:04:48 -0600 To: "Mike Mims" , From: "Michael Meyer" Subject: Re: KR> Finish Paint techniques Message-ID: <001601c04ec1$95a75500$4201193f@o0c8u6> U.S. Paint has an outstanding website at www.uspaint.com - I am definitely going to explore this option when I get close... Mike Meyer -----Original Message----- From: Mike Mims To: krnet@mailinglists.org Date: Sunday, November 12, 2000 11:14 AM Subject: KR> Finish Paint techniques >Have any of you ever watched Ship Shape TV on >Speedvision? The guy on there just applied the finish >coat on his boat project using a foam roller and a >fine hair paint brush. I am here to tell you that the >finish was better than 75% of the homebuilt airplanes >I have ever seen! Does anyone know what this product >is? I didn't catch the name but I highly recommend >this stuff for those of you who may be spray paint >impaired! It just seemed to he the best option for >someone like myself. No special equipment needed, no >overspray issues, and very durable. > >===== >........| >.......-^- >....-/_____\- >...(O\__o__/O) >...[#]oxxxo[#] >-----Y2K Bug--- > Yes I had one! > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Yahoo! Calendar - Get organized for the holidays! >http://calendar.yahoo.com/ > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org >To unsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org >For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 23:12:47 -0600 To: Michael Meyer From: Ned Thomas CC: Mike Mims , krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> Finish Paint techniques Message-ID: <3A121B4E.9A67D724@mmcable.com> Mike, Thanks for the tip. It is a gfreat site! Ned Michael Meyer wrote: > U.S. Paint has an outstanding website at www.uspaint.com - I am definitely > going to explore this option when I get close... > > Mike Meyer > -----Original Message----- > From: Mike Mims > To: krnet@mailinglists.org > Date: Sunday, November 12, 2000 11:14 AM > Subject: KR> Finish Paint techniques > > >Have any of you ever watched Ship Shape TV on > >Speedvision? The guy on there just applied the finish > >coat on his boat project using a foam roller and a > >fine hair paint brush. I am here to tell you that the > >finish was better than 75% of the homebuilt airplanes > >I have ever seen! Does anyone know what this product > >is? I didn't catch the name but I highly recommend > >this stuff for those of you who may be spray paint > >impaired! It just seemed to he the best option for > >someone like myself. No special equipment needed, no > >overspray issues, and very durable. > > > >===== > >........| > >.......-^- > >....-/_____\- > >...(O\__o__/O) > >...[#]oxxxo[#] > >-----Y2K Bug--- > > Yes I had one! > > > >__________________________________________________ > >Do You Yahoo!? > >Yahoo! Calendar - Get organized for the holidays! > >http://calendar.yahoo.com/ > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > >To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org > >To unsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > >For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 23:41:14 -0500 To: From: "Albert Pecoraro" Subject: Re: KR> Finish Paint techniques Message-ID: <004301c04f87$765c17a0$c5d1b23f@steelcase.com> Michael, I visited the US Paint website - very nice. I did some browsing around the General Aviation section and I decided to read a few of the MSDS (Material Safety Data Sheets) for some of the products. Product K8032 - this one's interesting (as are others, such as Awlcraft2000): SECTION 16 - OTHER INFORMATION FOR INDUSTRIAL USE ONLY: This product is for use by professional, trained personnel using proper equipment, and is not intended for sale to, or use by, the general public. I guess that excludes me right from the word "professional"! ;-) Other sections that provided some interesting information: SECTION 3 - HAZARDS IDENTIFICATION POTENTIAL ACUTE HEALTH EFFECTS SECTION 6 - ACCIDENTAL RELEASE MEASURES SECTION 7 - HANDLING AND STORAGE SECTION 8 - EXPOSURE CONTROLS, PERSONAL PROTECTION After reading the MSDS sheets for the products used in "General Aviation - Non-Alodine - High Solids", it would be wise for a person like me to find another product to cover my plane. (I have asthma and sinusitis). Mike Mims: On the TV program you watched, was the demonstrator wearing a special respirator or just the NIOSH/MSHA type? Did he mention any precautions about the product? Do you recall which product/system he was using? ... Thanks. Albert Pecoraro ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Meyer" To: "Mike Mims" ; Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2000 12:04 AM Subject: Re: KR> Finish Paint techniques > U.S. Paint has an outstanding website at www.uspaint.com - I am definitely > going to explore this option when I get close... > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 23:08:13 -0600 To: Albert Pecoraro From: Ned Thomas CC: krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> Finish Paint techniques Message-ID: <3A136BBC.9320E3BA@mmcable.com> Albert, I would encourage you to look into the PolyFiber paints. Several Pulsar builders are using Polyfiber products with excellent results. John Goldenbaum the Poly fiber guy, is extremely helpful and the best to work with. They stand behind their products. Many of us that have taken so long to finish our painting have received free upgrades as Polyfiber makes advances intheir primers. The biggest issue for you is that they have a water based polyurethane paint tha has no CDC's or hazardous vapors. Their site is: http://www.polyfiber.com/ Regards, Ned Albert Pecoraro wrote: > Michael, > > I visited the US Paint website - very nice. > > I did some browsing around the General Aviation section and I decided to > read a few of the MSDS (Material Safety Data Sheets) for some of the > products. Product K8032 - this one's interesting (as are others, such as > Awlcraft2000): > > SECTION 16 - OTHER INFORMATION > > FOR INDUSTRIAL USE ONLY: This product is for use by professional, trained > personnel using proper equipment, and is not intended for sale to, or use > by, the general public. > > I guess that excludes me right from the word "professional"! ;-) > > Other sections that provided some interesting information: > > SECTION 3 - HAZARDS IDENTIFICATION > POTENTIAL ACUTE HEALTH EFFECTS > SECTION 6 - ACCIDENTAL RELEASE MEASURES > SECTION 7 - HANDLING AND STORAGE > SECTION 8 - EXPOSURE CONTROLS, PERSONAL PROTECTION > > After reading the MSDS sheets for the products used in "General Aviation - > Non-Alodine - High Solids", it would be wise for a person like me to find > another product to cover my plane. (I have asthma and sinusitis). > > Mike Mims: On the TV program you watched, was the demonstrator wearing a > special respirator or just the NIOSH/MSHA type? Did he mention any > precautions about the product? Do you recall which product/system he was > using? ... > > Thanks. > > Albert Pecoraro > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Michael Meyer" > To: "Mike Mims" ; > Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2000 12:04 AM > Subject: Re: KR> Finish Paint techniques > > > U.S. Paint has an outstanding website at www.uspaint.com - I am > definitely > > going to explore this option when I get close... > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 06:19:53 -0600 To: From: "Boyers" Subject: pants Message-ID: <001401c04efe$5d9242a0$842be6cf@ou812> ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01C04ECC.112B01E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Just wondering if any one was interested in a set of wheel = pants,($100.),or a revmaster engine cowl ($200.) for the KR-2????? Let = me know, . Ken B ou812@brick.net ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01C04ECC.112B01E0-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 07:35:42 PST To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: flykr2s@execpc.com Subject: Interesting item on eBay web site item#499575721: TRW FORGED CORVAIR PISTONS (6) Message-Id: <200011151535.eAFFZgl12652@nog.ebay.com> I saw this item for sale at eBayMotors, here is your chance to get a great deal on forged pistons for your Corvair engine. Mark Jones Title of item: TRW FORGED CORVAIR PISTONS (6) Seller: vairparts Starts: Nov-14-00 20:23:03 PST Ends: Nov-21-00 20:23:03 PST Price: Starts at $189.00 To bid on the item, go to: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=499575721 Item Description: TRW FORGED CORVAIR PISTONS (6) You are bidding on a set of (6) brand new TRW FORGED PISTONS. These are great pistons and are a must fot that performance engine. Retail for $299.00 and these can be had for much less. Choose either Std.,020,030,040,or .060 oversize. Please visit our new online catalog at www.larryscorvair.com. Please note that all our items ship via UPS. Click below to... View My Other Auctions Visit My Homepage Email: Created w/Virtual AdPro On Nov-14-00 at 20:25:53 PST, seller added the following information: Visit eBay, the world's largest Personal Trading Community at http://www.ebay.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 12:12:56 +0200 To: From: =?iso-8859-7?B?weLx4ezf5OfyINDd9PHv8g==?= Subject: rotax conversion Message-ID: <025201c4cbc4$d930d060$ec6ba7c3@h5v0r5> ------=_NextPart_000_024F_01C4CBD5.9B5AACA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-7" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello neters I have a rotax 912 UL 80hp,that I d like to convert it to 912 S = 100hp.Can eny body help giving me any information about upgrade kit,price, suppliers? I am = living in=20 Greece. Some comments about my kr2.During fast taxi test my plane took off = without to be prepared. Scared, I tried to land it immediately(first = mistake) pulling the stick=20 back violent (second mistake ) It deeds little movement. The plane = started to impact on the runway and bounce in the air. After two or = three bounce I push=20 the brakes with force enough but, the right pedal broke.Result, I went = out of the runway twiddling with 60miles. I was not injured but the = undercarriage was absolutely destroyed. I am now struggling to repair my = plane 200hr of total 300 about.excuse me for my=20 english. Avramidis peter=20 kozani=20 Greece ------=_NextPart_000_024F_01C4CBD5.9B5AACA0-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 12:17:08 +0200 To: From: =?iso-8859-7?B?weLx4ezf5OfyINDd9PHv8g==?= Subject: rotax conversion Message-ID: <026101c4cbc5$7e9e0ea0$ec6ba7c3@h5v0r5> ------=_NextPart_000_025E_01C4CBD6.3131BE80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-7" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ------=_NextPart_000_025E_01C4CBD6.3131BE80-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 17:01:00 -0600 To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=C1=E2=F1=E1=EC=DF=E4=E7=F2=20=D0=DD=F4=F1=EF=F2?= From: Ned Thomas CC: krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> rotax conversion Message-ID: <3A1315AB.67F8A0FD@mmcable.com> Avramidis Greetings from the USA, I am acquainted with a man who owns a business that sells an upgrade kit for the 912. His name is Jerry Eastman and his kits are quite popular. Yu can get more information fro the following web site: http://www.masterkraft.com/912XTRA.htm Best wishes, Ned Thomas Αβραμίδης Πέτρος wrote: > Hello neters > I have a rotax 912 UL 80hp,that I d like to convert it to 912 S 100hp.Can eny body > help giving me any information about upgrade kit,price, suppliers? I am living in > Greece. > Some comments about my kr2.During fast taxi test my plane took off without to be prepared. Scared, I tried to land it immediately(first mistake) pulling the stick > back violent (second mistake ) It deeds little movement. The plane started to impact on the runway and bounce in the air. After two or three bounce I push > the brakes with force enough but, the right pedal broke.Result, I went out of the runway twiddling with 60miles. I was not injured but the undercarriage was absolutely destroyed. I am now struggling to repair my plane 200hr of total 300 about.excuse me for my > english. > Avramidis peter > kozani > Greece ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 17:03:25 -0600 To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=C1=E2=F1=E1=EC=DF=E4=E7=F2=20=D0=DD=F4=F1=EF=F2?= , krnet@mailinglists.org From: Ned Thomas Subject: Re: KR> rotax conversion Message-ID: <3A13163D.ED2FA71A@mmcable.com> Avramidis, The home page for the 912 upgrade is: http://www.masterkraft.com/ Ned Thomas wrote: > Avramidis Greetings from the USA, > > I am acquainted with a man who owns a business that sells an upgrade kit for the 912. His name is Jerry Eastman and his kits are quite popular. Yu can get more information fro the following web site: > > http://www.masterkraft.com/912XTRA.htm > > Best wishes, > Ned Thomas > > Αβραμίδης Πέτρος wrote: > > > Hello neters > > I have a rotax 912 UL 80hp,that I d like to convert it to 912 S 100hp.Can eny body > > help giving me any information about upgrade kit,price, suppliers? I am living in > > Greece. > > Some comments about my kr2.During fast taxi test my plane took off without to be prepared. Scared, I tried to land it immediately(first mistake) pulling the stick > > back violent (second mistake ) It deeds little movement. The plane started to impact on the runway and bounce in the air. After two or three bounce I push > > the brakes with force enough but, the right pedal broke.Result, I went out of the runway twiddling with 60miles. I was not injured but the undercarriage was absolutely destroyed. I am now struggling to repair my plane 200hr of total 300 about.excuse me for my > > english. > > Avramidis peter > > kozani > > Greece > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 22:49:27 -0500 To: "KR Network" From: "Robert E. Moser" Subject: Re: KR> rotax conversion Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20001115224616.00ae58c0@viper> Hi, Allow me to suggest this excellent book on the subject of test flights: _Flight Testing Homebuilt Aircraft_, by Vaughn Askue. I thought it was good, brought up excellent points, and gives you somewhat of a cookbook to follow. I don't know if it would have helped you, but I feel I will be better off when it's my turn for having read it. Robert At 12:12 PM 11/16/04 +0200, you wrote: > Some comments about my kr2.During fast taxi test my plane took off > without to be prepared. Scared, I tried to land it immediately(first > mistake) pulling the stick >back violent (second mistake ) It deeds little movement. The plane >started to impact on the runway and bounce in the air. After two or three >bounce I push >the brakes with force enough but, the right pedal broke.Result, I went out >of the runway twiddling with 60miles. I was not injured but the >undercarriage was absolutely destroyed. I am now struggling to repair my >plane 200hr of total 300 about.excuse me for my >english. >Avramidis peter >kozani >Greece ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 00:26:13 -0500 To: "krnet" From: "w.g. kirkland" Subject: subaru engine for sale Message-ID: <00cb01c04f8d$bd5018e0$b5905bd1@kirkland> ------=_NextPart_000_00C8_01C04F63.D3B9CE20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Tue there was a post about a subaru engine for sale for $ 350. I may be = interested but I deleted the msg. Could you come back? W.G.(Bill) KIRKLAND kirkland@vianet.on.ca ------=_NextPart_000_00C8_01C04F63.D3B9CE20-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 20:11:08 -0800 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: Carter Pond Subject: fuel tanks Message-ID: <3A14AFDC.CDEA0EDE@home.com> Just considering my fuel tanks needs here. Is there a reason why people seem to favour fiberglass tanks instead of aluminum welded tanks. Would any one have suggestions on a fuel tank lay out for a my KR2-S. I need long range capability. Not that I want to stay up more than Four hours but if I need to make 180 deg to avoid the unforeseen. My ideal would be close to 30-40gallon capability. I looking at a 1100 gross weight build. Thanks gang ------------------------------ End of krnet Digest ***********************************