From: To: Subject: krnet Digest 23 Mar 2001 03:09:34 -0000 Issue 196 Date: Thursday, March 22, 2001 7:09 PM krnet Digest 23 Mar 2001 03:09:34 -0000 Issue 196 Topics (messages 4743 through 4770): Project update 4743 by: Mark Langford 4744 by: Dave and Tina Goodman 4745 by: Albert Pecoraro 4746 by: Rick Human 4752 by: Payne, Scott 4753 by: Austin Clark 4756 by: Mark Langford B-17 and webpage update 4747 by: John Bryhan 4749 by: flykr2s.execpc.com 4751 by: Edwin Blocher Re: Brake Cylinders 4748 by: macwood Langford's Project update 4750 by: Frank Ross proof load 4754 by: Christian Kogelmann Flying Photos 4755 by: GARYKR2.cs.com FAA Website 4757 by: Rick Human Starting out! 4758 by: Patrick Wright 4759 by: flykr2s.execpc.com 4761 by: Frank Ross origin of KR2; 51% 4760 by: Oscar Zuniga Re: Transciever 4762 by: Frank Ross Project update and shaving weight 4763 by: Dave and Tina Goodman About wheels and undercarriage 4764 by: spannie 4765 by: Frank Ross Polo Shirts 4766 by: flykr2s.execpc.com Hexcel EPOLITE 2427 2/3gal Resin for sale $30 4767 by: Tom Andersen Re: About wheels 4768 by: George Allen Re: Bill Kirkland 4769 by: Patrick Driscoll How to clean a plane 4770 by: rme114.juno.com Administrivia: To subscribe to the digest, e-mail: To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail: To post to the list, e-mail: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 21:48:14 -0600 To: From: "Mark Langford" Subject: Project update Message-ID: <00aa01c0b1b9$c24064c0$561cf618@600athlon> KRNetHeads, Well, I've seen a miracle! No, not the virgin Mary in a Pine tree...but I somehow managed to "weld" enough steel together to hold my engine up long enough to do a preliminary weight and balance. With the wings installed and airplane leveled, the pilot's side was 304.5 pounds, passenger's was 307.5, tailwheel was 16.5. I used "stand-in" weights for much of what's missing, but will add a 15 pound exhaust system to the front, counteracted by 8 pounds of aileron counterweights and maybe 3 pounds of rudder counterbalance. My battery is mounted to the rear of the firewall, and could easily be moved rearward (like in front of the spar) but I don't think that'll be necessary at all. Any other weight gains (like paint and wingtips) will probably be close to the CG, so I think all is well. Grand total is now 628.5, so I'm confident that I'll still be under 700 pounds. That sounds like a real porker, until you consider that I expect at least 135 hp at 3500 rpm. Photos of what a Corvair engine looks like with a KR2S strapped onto it are at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/corvair/mount_fit.html . These pictures were taken without all of the "standin" stuff piled on top of the engine, like spark plug wires, oil cooler, filter, etc. The chain represents the cowling... Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama mailto:langford@hiwaay.net see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 20:00:28 -0800 To: "Mark Langford" , From: "Dave and Tina Goodman" Subject: Re: KR> Project update Message-ID: <000b01c0b1bb$7cd97280$5b44a6d1@oemcomputer> Mark, Congratulations! I envy you. Hope to be where you are in about one year or so. Respectfully, Dave "Zipper" Goodman zipperts@whidbey.net ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 23:19:19 -0500 To: From: "Albert Pecoraro" Subject: Re: KR> Project update Message-ID: <001201c0b1be$1a92ba20$65d4b23f@steelcase.com> > Grand total is now 628.5, so I'm confident that I'll still be under 700 pounds. That sounds like a real porker, until you consider that I expect at least 135 hp at 3500 rpm.< Mark, Speaking of porker, are you going to name your plane "Sky Pig II"?! ;-) Seriously, the engine looks great - nice and solid. When do you expect to give it its first test run? ... Congrats! ;-) Albert ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 22:29:26 -0600 To: Mark Langford , krnet@mailinglists.org From: Rick Human Subject: Re: KR> Project update Message-id: <003401c0b1bf$842597e0$010ec1cf@compaq> Mark - 629 lbs. is excellent - the carbon fiber really must have helped out - about that propeller - isn't that a pusher prop? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Langford" To: Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2001 9:48 PM Subject: KR> Project update > KRNetHeads, > > Well, I've seen a miracle! No, not the virgin Mary in a Pine tree...but I > somehow managed to "weld" enough steel together to hold my engine up long > enough to do a preliminary weight and balance. With the wings installed > and airplane leveled, the pilot's side was 304.5 pounds, passenger's was > 307.5, tailwheel was 16.5. I used "stand-in" weights for much of what's > missing, but will add a 15 pound exhaust system to the front, counteracted > by 8 pounds of aileron counterweights and maybe 3 pounds of rudder > counterbalance. My battery is mounted to the rear of the firewall, and > could easily be moved rearward (like in front of the spar) but I don't think > that'll be necessary at all. Any other weight gains (like paint and > wingtips) will probably be close to the CG, so I think all is well. Grand > total is now 628.5, so I'm confident that I'll still be under 700 pounds. > That sounds like a real porker, until you consider that I expect at least > 135 hp at 3500 rpm. > > Photos of what a Corvair engine looks like with a KR2S strapped onto it are > at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/corvair/mount_fit.html . These pictures > were taken without all of the "standin" stuff piled on top of the engine, > like spark plug wires, oil cooler, filter, etc. The chain represents the > cowling... > > Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama > mailto:langford@hiwaay.net > see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org > > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 14:05:25 -0500 To: 'Mark Langford' , krnet@mailinglists.org From: "Payne, Scott" Subject: RE: KR> Project update Message-ID: Mark: Wow! Nice fit, almost as if it were designed for a Corvair (but shouldn't it go in the back?) Thanks for keeping me inspired to build a corvair powered KR2S. D. Scott Payne, Network Administrator Children's Healtcare of Atlanta 975 Johnson Ferry Rd, Ste 350 Atlanta, GA 30342 -----Original Message----- From: Mark Langford [mailto:langford@hiwaay.net] Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2001 10:48 PM To: krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: KR> Project update KRNetHeads, Well, I've seen a miracle! No, not the virgin Mary in a Pine tree...but I somehow managed to "weld" enough steel together to hold my engine up long enough to do a preliminary weight and balance ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 15:19:07 -0600 To: From: "Austin Clark" Subject: Re: KR> Project update Message-ID: <001f01c0b24c$9188e3a0$0100a8c0@mshome.net> Looks great Mark! Man!, I may have to re-think about my Revmaster. Or maybe a future upgrade after I get mine flying. Austin Clark KR2S Moss Point MS www.datasync.com/~itac/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Langford" To: Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2001 9:48 PM Subject: KR> Project update > KRNetHeads, > > Well, I've seen a miracle! No, not the virgin Mary in a Pine tree...but I > somehow managed to "weld" enough steel together to hold my engine up long > enough to do a preliminary weight and balance. With the wings installed > and airplane leveled, the pilot's side was 304.5 pounds, passenger's was > 307.5, tailwheel was 16.5. I used "stand-in" weights for much of what's > missing, but will add a 15 pound exhaust system to the front, counteracted > by 8 pounds of aileron counterweights and maybe 3 pounds of rudder > counterbalance. My battery is mounted to the rear of the firewall, and > could easily be moved rearward (like in front of the spar) but I don't think > that'll be necessary at all. Any other weight gains (like paint and > wingtips) will probably be close to the CG, so I think all is well. Grand > total is now 628.5, so I'm confident that I'll still be under 700 pounds. > That sounds like a real porker, until you consider that I expect at least > 135 hp at 3500 rpm. > > Photos of what a Corvair engine looks like with a KR2S strapped onto it are > at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/corvair/mount_fit.html . These pictures > were taken without all of the "standin" stuff piled on top of the engine, > like spark plug wires, oil cooler, filter, etc. The chain represents the > cowling... > > Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama > mailto:langford@hiwaay.net > see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org > > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 21:33:45 -0600 To: From: "Mark Langford" Subject: Re: KR> Project update Message-ID: <00a401c0b280$e8b1d360$561cf618@600athlon> Rick Human wrote: > Mark - 629 lbs. is excellent - the carbon fiber really must have helped > out - about that propeller - isn't that a pusher prop? If I'd known what I know now, I could shave 50 pounds off of it easily. The CF really didn't help much, since it's the same weight and applied in the same layer schedule as glass would have been in most places. But it IS a whole lot stronger and less susceptible to the skin bubbling and flapping in the breeze. Yep, it's a pusher. I'm told that I can flip it over and counterbore it a tad and call it a tractor... Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama mailto:langford@hiwaay.net see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 00:50:33 -0700 To: KRnet From: John Bryhan CC: Kevin Subject: B-17 and webpage update EAA chapter 671 hosted the EAA's 'Aluminum Overcast' on their visit to Santa Fe. I took a bunch of pictures and updated my webpage. The 'main' photo is new and there's a new button labeled 'Aluminum Overcast' to take you to the new page. click on: http://www.users.qwest.net/~bje25 John Bryhan Los Alamos NM mailto:krjeb@qwest.net http://www.users.qwest.net/~bje25/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 07:32:11 -0600 (CST) To: John Bryhan From: flykr2s@execpc.com Cc: KRnet , Kevin Subject: Re: KR> B-17 and webpage update Message-Id: <200103211332.HAA66437@nm0.nwbl.wi.voyager.net> John, Those are some excellent photos. I envy you being able to get a ride in the B-17. In the ski hill photo, I think you actually captured a fleet of extraterrestrial (UFO) ships invading the area. Or posssibly from Area 51. Mark Jones > EAA chapter 671 hosted the EAA's 'Aluminum Overcast' on their > visit to Santa Fe. I took a bunch of pictures and updated my webpage. > The 'main' photo is new and there's a new button labeled 'Aluminum Overcast' > to take you to the new page. > click on: > http://www.users.qwest.net/~bje25 > > John Bryhan > Los Alamos NM > mailto:krjeb@qwest.net > http://www.users.qwest.net/~bje25/ > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org > > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 10:45:40 -0600 To: , "KRnet" From: "Edwin Blocher" Cc: "Kevin" Subject: Re: KR> B-17 and webpage update Message-ID: <001f01c0b226$5e4a4180$cee879a5@computer> Great pictores John. The KR/Nose art one makes a great wallpaper. Ed Blocher Moody, Alabama kr-n899eb@mindspring.com ----- Original Message ----- From: John Bryhan To: KRnet Cc: Kevin Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 1:50 AM Subject: KR> B-17 and webpage update > EAA chapter 671 hosted the EAA's 'Aluminum Overcast' on their > visit to Santa Fe. I took a bunch of pictures and updated my webpage. > The 'main' photo is new and there's a new button labeled 'Aluminum Overcast' > to take you to the new page. > click on: > http://www.users.qwest.net/~bje25 > > John Bryhan > Los Alamos NM > mailto:krjeb@qwest.net > http://www.users.qwest.net/~bje25/ > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org > > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 09:39:59 -0000 To: "Timothy Bellville" , "Austin Clark" , From: "macwood" Subject: Re: KR> Brake Cylinders Message-ID: <003101c0b1eb$0220aa60$64443c3e@tinypc> I seem to remember ,when I was a lad (about 60yrs ago!), that you had to be careful when using hydraulic oil ,to make sure that the oil was compatible with the type of seals used in the system. For example ,most Brit aircraft used Dowty hydraulics -with synthetic oil and seals, whereas Lockheed used natural rubber and seals. Don't know if this still applies,but it's worth thinking about ,as synthetic oil melts rubber seals! Cheers Mac Wood ----- Original Message ----- From: Timothy Bellville To: Austin Clark ; Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2001 11:17 AM Subject: Re: KR> Brake Cylinders > I USE Hagar WHEELS And brakes, with a pair of motorcycle rear brake master > cyclenders, and Hagar brake line( with aircraft fluid). > They are heavy duty and cheep, easy to mount. > most of all the work great. > Don't be afraid to experiment with parts off ground vehicles,you may be > amazed what you'll come up with. > I invented an electric carb heater from car parts along with a few other > things. > Take a walk threw a salvage yard find different parts that might work for > you project, take them home , test them, and if they work, buy the part new > for your plane. > You would not believe how much money I have saved that way. > Plus, it is allot of fun. > Tim > Sonerai I > N2206X > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Austin Clark" > To: > Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 7:15 PM > Subject: KR> Brake Cylinders > > > Could someone tell me what brand / model brake cylinders are shown in this > photo? The photo is on Mark Langford's web site and the plane was at the 98 > Columbia 'East Coast Gathering' > > http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/columbia/26jul98w.jpg > > Thanks, > > Austin Clark > KR2S > Moss Point MS > www.datasync.com/~itac/ > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org > > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 08:30:37 -0800 (PST) To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: Frank Ross Subject: Langford's Project update Message-ID: <20010321163037.16740.qmail@web4702.mail.yahoo.com> Mark, Just got back from out of town, clearing out a lot of messages. Nice work on the KoRvair. You have been making excellent progress. Keep up the good work. ===== Frank Ross, San Antonio, TX, __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 22:07:45 +0100 To: "Manager Bill" From: "Christian Kogelmann" Cc: "Krnet" Subject: proof load Message-ID: <00e901c0b24b$418fac40$651b2e3e@aptivacomputer> ------=_NextPart_000_00DF_01C0B253.5B781540 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Bill, it is quiet hard to follow the written instructions of your e-mail. I = went over it on the weekend. I had a chance to talk to my Inspector from = the CAA. He would like me to turn over the plane (conservative = approach). I am sorry but thats the way he read your e-mail. Besides, he = found some other trouble with my propeller. There was an incident with a = BX2 with VW power, where the crankshaft suffered high cycle fatigue. If = some of you netters are interested I could mail you the details of this = incident! I am sorry for being a pain but I do have some questions again: -) The loading plan you mentioned would be the same for the inverted = test? -) In a previous e-mail you mentioned the report JJ-5 you did for = Jeanette. Is this report and your March 1996 report available on the net = or do I have to order it from RR? -) I have some KR2 structural analysis data (thanks to Italy and = Germany) where they used a factor 7 for ultimate load, can you confirm = this number? -) Is it correct that the CL/CD max ratio is at an incident angle of = 14=B0? Finally I will get a report from a german builder where the shear load = of the WAF's was tested. It is said that the spar caps sheared at 7000 kg (approx 15.000 lbs of = shear load). I can't wait to see these pictures. I am still planning to set up my web site, but as you can see the = Austrian CAA keeps me busy reading, testing and calculating.... Thanks for your effort Bill. Cheers Chris ------=_NextPart_000_00DF_01C0B253.5B781540-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 20:15:38 EST To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: GARYKR2@cs.com Subject: Flying Photos Message-ID: I was going thru some photo packs the other night and found a couple of photos of Jerry Wells KR2 in flight. These were taken from my "2" in Sept of '99. If any one would like, I will send then to you. There are 4 photos. They are in a JPEG format and download fast. Gary Hinkle (A/P) Middletown, Pa. garykr2@cs.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 21:32:33 -0600 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: Rick Human Subject: FAA Website Message-id: <004c01c0b280$bc2d0940$210ec1cf@compaq> ------=_NextPart_000_0049_01C0B24E.708F3300 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey - a govt. web site that works - went to the FAA website last week = looking for information on how to obtain a N number for the = "Mockingbird" - lo and behold there was a link to apply on line. = http://diy.dot.gov (diy is govermentese for "do it yourself"). They want = you to give them 5 choices and your credit card number for the $10 buck = charge. That was on the 14th - today my reservation confirmation arrived = in the mail with my first choice N202RH. How about that! Rick Human Houston, Texas http://home.swbell.net/rahuman/index.htm ------=_NextPart_000_0049_01C0B24E.708F3300-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 02:04:24 -0600 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: Patrick Wright Subject: Starting out! Message-ID: <3AB9B1F9.9757E216@gac.edu> Hi there, I am a beginner, just planning the start of my KR-2S (extra S by a few inches long and wide) and I am looking for advice. First of all, I am involved with a project of restoring a 3/4 size Spitfire to static display for an ANG museum (MN), so I have a lot of parts at hand (trim, flaps, instruments, ball joints...etc). (I would looove to see it fly again, but the gross with lycoming 150 HP non-retract is over 1500 lbs....kinda heavy and too much insurance) Amongst them is free Oleo struts and control fittings, along with some pretty big disc brakes. First of all, has anyone experimented w/ Oleos, and does the gross weight of them outweight the cons (fixed gear kr-2s's), and second of all, would the Wicks Aircraft be worth the investment for the wood kit..? How have most of you obtained the necessary wood? I am concerned that it would be cut too closely to render a stretched KR-2S. Thanks for your time on the preliminary questions, it is much appreciated. -Pat Wright- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 07:28:01 -0600 (CST) To: Patrick Wright From: flykr2s@execpc.com Cc: krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> Starting out! Message-Id: <200103221328.HAA91417@nm1.nwbl.wi.voyager.net> Patrick, On the spruce issue, I purchased mine from Wicks. The length of the longerons were about 14 inches over what the plans call for so there was plenty to stretch it a little which is exactly what I did to the tune of a couple inches forward of the main spar to give me more leg room. I also widened the fuselage in the cockpit area. Also, when you order from them, you can specify a minimum length you need on the longeron pieces and they will gladly comply with your request. Wicks is the prime choice for quality, pricing and delivery. Mark Jones http://sites.netscape.net/n886mj/homepage > Hi there, > I am a beginner, just planning the start of my KR-2S (extra S by a few inches long and wide) and I am looking for advice. First of all, I am involved with a project of restoring a 3/4 size Spitfire to static display for an ANG museum (MN), so I have a lot of parts at hand (trim, flaps, instruments, ball joints...etc). (I would looove to see it fly again, but the gross with lycoming 150 HP non-retract is over 1500 lbs....kinda heavy and too much insurance) Amongst them > is free Oleo struts and control fittings, along with some pretty big disc brakes. First of all, has anyone experimented w/ Oleos, and does the gross weight of them outweight the cons (fixed gear kr-2s's), and second of all, would the Wicks Aircraft be worth the investment for the wood kit..? How have most of you obtained the necessary wood? I am concerned that it would be cut too closely to render a stretched KR-2S. Thanks for your time on the preliminary questions, > it is much appreciated. -Pat Wright- > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org > > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 06:45:35 -0800 (PST) To: pwright@gac.edu, krnet@mailinglists.org From: Frank Ross Subject: Re: KR> Starting out! Message-ID: <20010322144535.28127.qmail@web4703.mail.yahoo.com> Patrick, You may remember that Wicks started out as Wicks PIANO company, had the wood first, saw the experimental market in the 70s and the rest is history. Anyway, still a great source. There are others, especially in your area, and you will probably hear about them (hopefully) soon from others on the net. About the gear, I'd try to use it for trading or scrounging value. You'll want to conserve weight where ever you can. Same with instruments. All in all, sounds like you have some really fun projects to work on. ===== Frank Ross, San Antonio, TX, __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 14:05:47 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: "Oscar Zuniga" Subject: origin of KR2; 51% Message-ID: Doug asked: >Also, who knows at what point 51% is on a Kr2???? Ahhh... from what I've read on this list for the past 5 or 6 years, 51% on a KR is when the builder says "it should be ready to fly before the next Gathering". In other words, it's probably a lot less complete than it seems to you, and the old '90% complete/90% to go' rule is more accurate. There is no cookbook point at which the project is officially 51% complete; it could be well after the fuselage and wings are essentially completed... because you could end up spending 750 to 1000 hours on the interior, panel, and firewall forward if you wanted to. Best suggestion is to get with an EAA Tech Counselor and help get his opinion, but most projects bought or acquired as "projects" are probably safely under 51% completion unless they are already flying ;o) Oscar Zuniga Medford, Oregon mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.geocities.com/taildrags/ _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 07:04:00 -0800 (PST) To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: Frank Ross Subject: Re: KR> Transciever Message-ID: <20010322150400.14670.qmail@web4704.mail.yahoo.com> > Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2001 5:45 PM > ...Sporty's has their > Transceiver marked down $100....too good for me to > pass up. > Ed Blocher > Moody, Alabama > kr-n899eb@mindspring.com Ed, Got my transciever yesterday, ordered it 19th got it 21st. For 25% off, hard deal to beat. Thanks for the heads-up. ===== Frank Ross, San Antonio, TX, __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 08:55:49 -0800 To: "Mark Langford" , From: "Dave and Tina Goodman" Subject: Project update and shaving weight Message-ID: <000701c0b2f0$f3d399c0$9245a6d1@oemcomputer> > If I'd known what I know now, I could shave 50 pounds off of it easily. Mark, 50 pounds is a great deal of weight! Where and how would you shave it? Any specific places you can see that could take a big diet and would be easy for the average Joe to do? You are going to end up with a carbon fiber beer can and a GIANT motor up front. Have you computed your rate of climb yet? 4,000, 5,000 FPM? Just kidding. Sounds awesome! Respectfully, Dave "Zipper" Goodman zipperts@whidbey.net ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 20:22:41 +0200 To: From: "spannie" Subject: About wheels and undercarriage Message-ID: <000001c0b2fd$e1b3c960$c4e3cba3@jdejong> ------=_NextPart_000_0174_01C0B30D.D844ACE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi netters A question regarding the position of the main wheels. I am converting my = KR from taildragger to tricycle, and the question came up: Would I = increase (ground control) stability if I move the wheels outwards = towards the "stubs". Also, would it be safe to use wheels marked: 2-ply. Not for highway use? = I am specifically talking about those wheels found on ride-on = lawnmowers. I have been told that they are plenty strong, but nobody can = give me a speed rating on them. I would like to use them as mains.=20 Kind regards Johan Johannesburg, South Africa=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0174_01C0B30D.D844ACE0-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 12:22:42 -0800 (PST) To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: Frank Ross Subject: Re: KR> About wheels and undercarriage Message-ID: <20010322202242.5864.qmail@web4705.mail.yahoo.com> Johann asked: ...Would I increase > (ground control) stability if I move the wheels > outwards towards the "stubs". > > Also, would it be safe to use wheels marked: 2-ply. > Not for highway use? .... I would like to > use them as mains. > Kind regards > Johan > Johannesburg, South Africa Johann, I have not taxiied or landed a KR, so... From what I've seen and read, though the gear are in a pretty good place. The Dragonfly had wheels at the ends of the wings and moved them in because of at least two problems: 1) ground loops 2) a "spring" action from the weight of the plane so far from the landing gear that often launched the plane back up into the air on firm or hard landings. Also, the first thing I'd do is review my idea with your inspector, as he may have very definite ideas about those kinds of changes. Same with the tires. ===== Frank Ross, San Antonio, TX, __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 14:33:17 -0600 (CST) To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: flykr2s@execpc.com Cc: Subject: Polo Shirts Message-Id: <200103222033.OAA66640@nm2.nwbl.wi.voyager.net> Oscar Zuniga this question is for you. I saw on Mike Mims web site that KR Net polo shirts were once available and you were the contact for them. Are these still available? Mark Jones mailto:flykr2s@execpc.com http://sites.netscape.net/n886mj/homepage ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 19:11:01 -0500 To: From: "Tom Andersen" Subject: Hexcel EPOLITE 2427 2/3gal Resin for sale $30 Message-ID: <000701c0b32d$bec8ba20$3f631a42@triad.rr.com> I have a 2/3 gallon of Hexcel EPOLITE 2427 Resin, Part A for sale. It costs about $100 for a full gallon of resin and here's 2/3 gallon for $30. I don't have the hardener, but I checked and it is available from AS&S. -Tom Andersen Greensboro NC ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 19:30:22 -0500 To: From: "George Allen" Subject: Re: About wheels Message-ID: <009601c0b330$72a39860$caa7dcd8@george> ------=_NextPart_000_0093_01C0B306.89474960 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Johan, Those two ply tires you want to use are only for low speed use. = I'd hate to hear of your plane blowing a tire on it's first landing or = take off. Disaster city.!!! Please don't use them. Cheap shoes are never = worth it.=20 George Allen GeorgeA@PaOnline.com Harrisburg, PA ------=_NextPart_000_0093_01C0B306.89474960-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 19:55:6 -0600 To: "KR post" From: "Patrick Driscoll" Subject: FW: Bill Kirkland Message-ID: <41200135231556380@earthlink.net> > [Original Message] > From: Patrick Driscoll > To: KR post > Date: 3/22/01 6:46:23 PM > Subject: Bill Kirkland > > If you are out there Bill, Will you contact me off the net. I need some information on medical. I had a heart attack in 95 and am still trying to get my med back. > > > --- Patrick Driscoll > --- patrick36@earthlink.net > --- EarthLink: It's your Internet. --- Patrick Driscoll --- patrick36@earthlink.net --- EarthLink: It's your Internet. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 20:13:46 -0700 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: rme114@juno.com Subject: How to clean a plane Message-ID: <20010322.201546.-161755.0.rme114@juno.com> It's almost friday, and I won't be near a computer all day, so here's an early giggle for you all.... ...... . http://www.teleport.com/~leopoldo/humor/cleanplane.html . still shootin' for May, Steve ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ------------------------------ End of krnet Digest ***********************************