From: To: Subject: krnet Digest 6 Apr 2001 21:56:09 -0000 Issue 203 Date: Friday, April 06, 2001 2:56 PM krnet Digest 6 Apr 2001 21:56:09 -0000 Issue 203 Topics (messages 4905 through 4925): Re: Canopy bows for gullwing doors....... 4905 by: Mike Mims Test mail 4906 by: Tao000.aol.com Re: Air intake 4907 by: Guenther Bryce 4915 by: POND CARTER 4924 by: Manager Bill Re: Engine For Sale] 4908 by: Ross R. Youngblood Re: Aluminum Fuel Tanks 4909 by: Ross R. Youngblood Why I like my EFS2 4910 by: Ross R. Youngblood main gear 4911 by: Edwin Blocher Re: Starting engine for the first time 4912 by: Ross R. Youngblood Funny 4913 by: Patrick Driscoll SUN & FUN 2001 4914 by: Frank Ross Re:Canopy bows/gullwing doors(long) 4916 by: larry flesner VWs (was wider, faster, shinier) 4917 by: Oscar Zuniga 4918 by: CS Prop Hub? 4919 by: Gognij.aol.com Re: shaving weight, and other ramblings 4920 by: BABYWOLF.aol.com she flys n1055a 4921 by: Flymaca711689.cs.com Virginia State EAA Flyin 4922 by: Donald Reid SNF 4923 by: Mark Langford new to KR2 4925 by: Berry Rennie Administrivia: To subscribe to the digest, e-mail: To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail: To post to the list, e-mail: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 10:37:30 -0700 (PDT) To: myrddin@usa.net, krnet@mailinglists.org From: Mike Mims Subject: Re: KR> Canopy bows for gullwing doors....... Message-ID: <20010404173730.36419.qmail@web10806.mail.yahoo.com> I used 7 layers of the 3/32 plywood. Also try small tie-rod ends for hinges. They work great! --- Jerry Mahurin wrote: > Hey folks..... > I am planning on laminating up a couple of bows; > cutting up a standard KR2 > canopy for gullwing doors; and doing a flat wrap > windshield on a standard > KR2. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 13:56:56 EDT To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: Tao000@aol.com Subject: Test mail Message-ID: <39.12f885b6.27fcba68@aol.com> I have not received a KRNet Digest for quite some time. This is a test and only a test. If I need to subscribe again then I will. Testing one two three four testing ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 11:20:27 -0700 (PDT) To: POND CARTER , krnet@mailinglists.org From: Guenther Bryce Subject: Re: KR> Air intake Message-ID: <20010404182027.50682.qmail@web11102.mail.yahoo.com> pie r2 = circle area a 5 dia is smaller than 5x5.5, the venturi diameter is the smallest area that all the engine air must pass thru, the area of the filter could be much smaller the frequency of filter inspection is more of a factor to consider the smaller the hole. The desire to keep large foreign objects from restriction the hole is a major factor in the design of your intake air ducting. Bryce KR2 --- POND CARTER wrote: > My a/c has a C65 engine with carb heat box the > airfliter opening is > 5"x5.5" > > I want to make a round opening for this intake to > dress it up. Should I > funnel the opening or just make a 5" Diameter > opening? > > Is there none a/c grade filters that can be used > instead of the > expensive a/c one's > Carter > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org > > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: > krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: > krnet-help@mailinglists.org > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2001 22:10:52 -0700 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: POND CARTER Subject: Air intake Message-ID: <3ACAACDC.C8B15051@home.com> My a/c has a C65 engine with carb heat box the airfliter opening is 5"x5.5" I want to make a round opening for this intake to dress it up. Should I funnel the opening or just make a 5" Diameter opening? Is there none a/c grade filters that can be used instead of the expensive a/c one's Carter ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2001 08:41:06 -0700 To: Pond Carter , krnet@mailinglists.org From: Manager Bill Subject: Air Intake Message-ID: <3ACDE390.BA5E2C81@nm.net> Pond Carter Subject: [Fwd: Engine For Sale] Message-ID: <3ACB6C1D.99916076@home.com> --------------A83B91FFEB92F6A4F78F8E97 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --------------A83B91FFEB92F6A4F78F8E97 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: Delivered-To: rossy@teleport.com Received: (qmail 12381 invoked from network); 23 Mar 2001 19:55:13 -0000 Received: from rmx194-mta.mail.com ([165.251.48.41]) (envelope-sender ) by smtp01.mail.onemain.com (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 23 Mar 2001 19:55:13 -0000 Received: from web346-wra.mail.com (web346-wra.mail.com [165.251.33.73]) by rmx194-mta.mail.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA29864 for ; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 14:55:12 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <384955511.985377312968.JavaMail.root@web346-wra.mail.com> Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 14:55:12 -0500 (EST) From: James Burns To: rossy@teleport.com Subject: Engine For Sale Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: mail.com X-Originating-IP: 24.30.139.169 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 Hello Out there in teleport land. I'm a little new to this computer thing so I am trying to get an engine sold that has been in my possession for a while. I did enroll in the on-line club but thought I'd go ahead and write to you to see if it would be helpful. For Sale: Almost 0 time Dual ignition 1835 cc. VW conversion w/starter. Includes Posa injection carb., exhaust system, climb and speed props w/spinner. And an added bonus, a fixed landing gear complete with 500 tires and hydraulic brakes. All for: $2,999 OBO Contact James Burns, in San Diego Telephone (808)298-3971 --------------A83B91FFEB92F6A4F78F8E97-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2001 11:57:56 -0700 To: Dave and Tina Goodman From: "Ross R. Youngblood" CC: krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> Aluminum Fuel Tanks Message-ID: <3ACB6EB4.761FFD38@home.com> Dave, This sounds Terrific. I wish I had gone this route. I may buy wing skins someday and build new spars. Unfortunatly I think I would have to re-do my stub wing glass so it would be a BIG project. -- Ross Dave and Tina Goodman wrote: > Fellow builders, > > I got a call from the metal works that is building my fuel tanks to come > take a look at the basic dimensions they cut and bent today. They are > beautiful! For those of you trying to decide what kind of tanks to put into > your plane, I highly recommend going the aluminum route. > > The tanks I had made are for the outer wings and measure 12.5 x 6.0 at the > inner bulkhead, and 7 x 4.0 at the outer bulkhead. Total distance outboard > is 54 inches, with two internal baffles. These numbers are off the top of > my head, as the welder has the diagrams I made, but this yields a 12.5 > gallon tank in each wing. Material thickness is .050, 5052 metal. Weight > is around five pounds apiece. > > Internal installations to the tanks include a mechanical sight gauge for > fuel quantity and a warning light/indicator for the instrument panel that > will give me a light when the level reaches ~4.0 gallons. The mechanical > sight gauge will be visible just outboard the wing joint through a > plexiglass port. > > I realize this is only the most basic information. Cost will be a small > amount over the materials, as the gent who is building these for me is > retired and about two hundred years old. He runs his forge just to keep > busy (and hit on the wives of those who are foolish enough to bring them to > his shop... I say this in some jest). I will provide diagrams, parts lists, > and cost data when I have all of it together. > > Good building! > > Respectfully, > Dave "Zipper" Goodman > zipperts@whidbey.net > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2001 12:15:19 -0700 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: "Ross R. Youngblood" Subject: Why I like my EFS2 Message-ID: <3ACB72C7.B62DF69F@home.com> I just got off the phone with Ellison Fluid Systems. They are always terrific on the phone. I had emailed them that I needed a throttle mixture control arm and a manual for my EFS-2 (VW sized carb), and so they had everything pulled ready to ship when I called and gave them my credit card number. Seems somewhere in the last two years I misplaced this little part, either here or in Oregon before I moved. The manual... thats in my old hangar, does me a lot of good here! So... I just wanted to say "Kudos" to the folks at Ellison http://www.ellison-fluid-systems.com -- Ross ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 14:17:16 -0500 To: "KRNet" From: "Edwin Blocher" Subject: main gear Message-ID: <005301c0bd3b$dd561420$d0e879a5@computer> ------=_NextPart_000_0050_01C0BD11.F37CA5E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable II just weighed my new Tracy Obrien Spun aluminum wheels, brakes, tires, = tubes, axels, etc. They weigh a total of 12.9 pounds. My Grove spring = aluminum gear leg will be 28 more for a total of 40.9 pounds. I'll use = mounting brackets like Dave Mullins' so guess another 3 pounds. How does = this compare to what some of the rest of you have done? Since I = lengthened the fuselage forward and decided to go Corvair I am going = tri-gear to put this weight aft of CG. Need comments and will wotk for = airplane parts. Ed Ed Blocher Moody, Alabama (soon to be Santa Rosa Beach, Florida) kr-n899eb@mindspring.com ------=_NextPart_000_0050_01C0BD11.F37CA5E0-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2001 12:18:34 -0700 To: Gognij@aol.com From: "Ross R. Youngblood" CC: krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> Starting engine for the first time Message-ID: <3ACB738A.A6134AA5@home.com> Jim, I had this same question... the next question is... how do you adjust the timing on the engine with the prop on? The answer I recieved and liked was ... remove the prop. I ran my VW for the first 20 min or so without the prop. This may have been foolhardy, but it was easy to time it this way. The 009 distributor is really close to where the prop would be. -- Ross Gognij@aol.com wrote: > Hello Folks, > > I want to start my engine for the first time. However at this time I > do not have a prop for my airplane. I do have the Super Case from Great > Plains Aircraft Supply with their starter flywheel installed at this time. My > question is! Can I start my engine with just this flywheel on the engine for > the initial break in procedures? Or do I need to install a prop on the engine > first? I know the Bug didn't have a prop on it. But the flywheel was much > heavier than it is now. I am still in need of a 52*42 or 44 prop for my > 1776cc engine if anybody has one they can sell.........Jim Gogniat ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 18:57:04 -0400 (EDT) To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: Patrick Driscoll Subject: Funny Message-ID: <381567723.986425024313.JavaMail.root@web538-wrb> During taxi, the crew of a US Air departure flight to Ft. Lauderdale, made a wrong turn and came nose to nose with a United 727. The irate ground controller (a female) lashed out at the US Air crew screaming, "US Air 2771, where are you going?. I told you to turn right on "Charlie" taxi way; you turned right on "Delta". Stop right there. I know it's difficult to tell the difference between C's and D's but get it right." Continuing her lashing to the embarrassed crew, she was now shouting hysterically, "God, you've screwed everything up; it'll take forever to sort this out. You stay right there and don't move until I tell you to. You can expect progressive taxi instructions in about a half hour and I want you to go exactly where I tell you, when I tell you, and how I tell you. You got that, US Air 2771??" The humbled crew responded: "Yes Ma'am". Naturally, the "ground control" frequency went terribly silent after the verbal bashing of US Air Flight 2771. No one wanted to engage the irate ground controller in her current state. Tension in every cockpit at LGA was running high. Shortly after the controller finished her admonishment of the U.S. Air crew, an unknown male pilot broke the silence and asked, "Wasn't I married to you once?" -------------------------------------------------------------- A DC-10 had an exceedingly long roll out after landing with his approach speed just a little too high. San Jose Tower: "American 751 heavy, turn right at the end, if able. If not able, take the Guadeloupe exit off of Highway 101 and make a right at the light to return to the airport.... ----------------------------------------------------------------- O'Hare Approach Control: "United 329 Heavy, your traffic is a Fokker 100, one o'clock, 3 miles, eastbound." United 329: "Approach, I've always wanted to say this... I've got that Fokker in sight." ----------------------------------------------------------------- I was a Pan Am 727 Flight Engineer waiting for start clearance in Munich, Germany. I was listening to the radio since I was the junior crew member. This was the conversation I overheard: (I don't recall call signs any longer) Lufthansa: (In German) "Ground, what is our start clearance time?" Ground: (In English) "If you want an answer you must speak English." Luft: (In English) "I am a German, flying a German airplane, in Germany. Why must I speak English?" Beautiful English Accent: (before ground could answer) "Because you lost the bloody war!" Sitting and waiting and waiting and sitting and gonna build an airplane someday ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 18:56:08 -0700 (PDT) To: "krnet@mailinglists.org" From: Frank Ross Subject: SUN & FUN 2001 Message-ID: <20010405015608.29939.qmail@web4704.mail.yahoo.com> I'm leaving in the morning for S-n-F, so I'm unsubscribing from KR net until I get back. See you in Florida. ===== Frank Ross, San Antonio, TX, __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2001 06:47:38 -0500 To: myrddin@usa.net,krnet@mailinglists.org From: larry flesner Subject: Re:Canopy bows/gullwing doors(long) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20010405064738.0080e100@pop3.norton.antivirus> >I am planning on laminating up a couple of bows; cutting up a standard KR2 >canopy for gullwing doors; and doing a flat wrap windshield on a standard >KR2. I can't remember how many laminates or what size or what kind of wood >to use. I could also use some help on the hinging techniques. I like the >ones that hinge off center to the right; giving one larger door opening on >the left (pilot) side. >Jerry Mahurin ============================================================================ Jerry, I went out to my project and did some measuring. Here is what I did and it turned out really nice. Wicks sells bundles of cut off end strips from what I think is metric plywood. Each bundle comes with assorted thicknesses and sells for two bucks ( $2.00 ). I used the strips that measure .1" ( 1/10" )thick and laminated using 4 strips with one layer of regular KR glass between each strip. My windshield is 23" of the forward portion of a broken Pulsar canopy. My windshield and bow thickness together come to 7/8 inch and seems quite strong. I still have one or two layers of glass to lay yet for the edging/tie-down. The width of the bow is approx 1 3/4" wide. My turtledeck bow is the same thickness minus the glass. I built my single gullwing door on the left side also and used these same strips to build up the hinge attach support between the windshield and the turtledeck . Because they are quite flexable , I was able to make a continous curve from the windshield to the turtledeck giving it the same look as the KR2s canopy but with a fixed windshield. The size of my door is 60 percent (39") of the distance from top longeron to top longeron and works well for me. I'm 6'4" and 200lbs. Mike's suggestion on the rod end bearing is a good one. That's what I used and my door goes from closed to 90 degrees open with no binding and the hinges are all below the outside skin. I attached them (2)to simple L brakets on the curved frame. My canopy is removable by taking out the two 3/16" bolts that hold the canopy to the rod end bearings. My entire right side panel is also removable with five bolts and will open up the entire area if needed for maintenance. Because the bow is rather wide , I made the front edge of the door and right side panel rather thin, about 5/8" or so. If you are still with me and care to read on I'll cover my latch assy. If you look at a pickup topper glass door latch you'll see where I got the geometry from. Don't try using an assembly from a topper as it is much too heavy and is "pot" metal. I used 3/16" rod attached to a handle assy that a friend of mine welded up from 4130 pipe. The handle pivots in nylon washers mounted in a wood block buried in the door. I purchased a nylon cutting board from the Dollar store and cut four small nylon blocks. One each is mounted to the turtledeck bow and canopy bow. The other two are mounted to wood blocks buried in the door, one on each end. The rod from the handle slides through these blocks and into the the blocks on the bows. Rod travel is approx. 3/4" and it locks the canopy down nice and tight with only a quarter turn of the handle. I located my handle well forward so it would be easy to use. When Jeanette stopped by for a visit after the last Gathering, she liked the set-up so well that she had her daughter take some pictures of it. It will take some carefull planning to get the most glass from your half bubble for the side glass. Before cutting, measure and use templates to get the most glass possible. Those half bubbles are rather small and have a lot of curve in the forward part. If you are interested, I could try to make some pictures available to e-mail. I don't have a scanner but I could make it happen if given a day or two. Good luck, Larry Flesner ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2001 13:21:19 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: "Oscar Zuniga" Subject: VWs (was wider, faster, shinier) Message-ID: Some netters wrote: >It will be possible to get 102hp out of it at 3500rpm, >and that same engine was putting out 85 hp at 3000rpm. >They start with a stock engine (50hp) and 40 modifications >1600-1776-1915-2165-2332cc >I'm not sure I would be willing to fly behind an engine as >hot-rodded as some of the ones in that book. Well, I'll toss in my 2 cents' worth, too. I place a lot of stock in what Steve Bennett and Robert Hoover have to say about the VW engine, and I believe that neither of them would suggest or recommend counting on much more than 65-75 HP from even the 2100 VW, and for takeoff power only. The question is not one of being able to get that kind of power from the engine, it's how long do you want the engine to last at that level of output. The engine is basically limited by the amount of heat the heads can dissipate and by how much material must remain in the cylinder walls and case when "opening it up" to higher displacements. There are other, very well known and documented limitations which are all addressed by various methods of beefing up and hotrodding, but what this tells you is that you've found the engine's limits and decided to press on beyond those limits with a "fix" or a "band-aid". Go to the old-timers and find out how those limits have been verified over the years. You'll hear words like "bent", "spun", "cracked", and so forth. Not words I want to hear. You are welcome to feed your VW steroids, and by golly it will grow quite muscular. The question is, how long will it live? Hoover states that even in its 1600cc configuration the engine was 'pushed out', and running it in an airplane is like driving a fully-loaded VW van uphill in the mountains. Not just an occasional climb in the mountains, but all day every day, all the time. That's the nature of the application, and if there is a weak point in the engine, you'll find it. Go on over to the Teenie Two list archives and you can read Hoover's "sermons" on building up a VW... then decide for yourself. Call Steve Bennett at Great Plains, or get their catalog and read what he says about VW aero conversions. Whether you want to find your engine's limits over hostile terrain or not is strictly up to you and where you take your airplane. You are the builder, you are the pilot, and you are the Master Mechanic on your engine. But may I quote from Clint Eastwood? "A man's got to know his limitations". ;o) Oscar Zuniga Medford, Oregon mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.geocities.com/taildrags/ _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 06:55:12 -0700 (PDT) To: Oscar Zuniga , krnet@mailinglists.org From: CS Subject: Re: KR> VWs (was wider, faster, shinier) Message-ID: <20010405135513.74976.qmail@web13901.mail.yahoo.com> Hey Oscar, Okay, the supercharged-turbocharged-nitrous-blowing-alcohol-burning-bored-stroked-ported-polished VDub ain't happening. I've got a new approach... I'm moving to the mountains. If I can just fly downhill all the time I think I can get the speed I need. Chuck __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 12:06:13 EDT To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: Gognij@aol.com Subject: Prop Hub? Message-ID: <10.b1a903a.27fdf1f5@aol.com> --part1_10.b1a903a.27fdf1f5_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Folks! Can anybody tell me if a prop from a HAPI engine will fit a Great Plains prop hub? I am wondering if the center hole, and bolt pattern are the same. Thanks, Jim Gogniat --part1_10.b1a903a.27fdf1f5_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 23:00:58 EDT To: kr2s2000@yahoo.com, langford@hiwaay.net, krnet@mailinglists.org From: BABYWOLF@aol.com Subject: Re: KR> Re: shaving weight, and other ramblings Message-ID: <8.12af5de1.27fe8b6a@aol.com> do not open test not receiving kr net ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 23:40:35 EDT To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: Flymaca711689@cs.com Subject: she flys n1055a Message-ID: <38.14752e26.27fe94b3@cs.com> my Kr flies nicely with the new zenith my rpms were low2600 2800 that' out of it.ihad to hold some right aileron in it is no more pitch sensitive then are rans s10 which we sell. on landing the nose gear fold up i said it its to weak ihave 13 stichs to prove it###### well my aircraft is damaged but i will fix it prop spinner minor belly damage. needs more power you guys are going to love this aircraft . im going to try to use a Yankee nose gear i like grass ilive on the airport with grass you will see this is second time IM hurt but for the 1.0 i was up i start all over i again build a gain mac bb sport i have some snp shots all get um out ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2001 08:25:11 -0400 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: Donald Reid Subject: Virginia State EAA Flyin Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.0.20010406081726.009f8ec0@pop.erols.com> --=====================_1014244==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed The Virginia State EAA Fly-in will be held at the Petersburg Airport, June 9th and 10th. Last year we had one KR, the first in the 4 year history of the fly-in. This year, I hope that we have more. This year, I am the fly-market coordinator (trying to sell off some of my stock of stuff). The following was announced several days ago: "Free Oil Offer For Pilots Attending the 5th Annual Virginia State EAA Fly-in Richmond, VA - March 24, 2001---One free case of ExxonMobil Elite 20W-50 engine oil per plane will be given to all pilots who register when they fly their planes to the Virginia State EAA Fly-in. The ExxonMobil General Aviation Industry Manager- Americas, Steve Sunseri, today announced free oil as part of a major sponsorship commitment to the 5th Annual Virginia State EAA Fly-in scheduled for June 9-10 at Dinwiddie County Airport (PTB). The case of free oil will only be available for pickup on site and will be limited to supplies on hand at the fly-in. Pilots who register will also be offered the opportunity to be contacted later for announcements of other ExxonMobil promotional savings and offers." I do not know how many cases of oil will be given away, but I hope that it is an extra inducement to get some of you KR types to show up. Additional details may be found at one of my web sites: http://eaa231.org Don Reid mailto:donreid@erols.com Bumpass, Va Visit my web sites at: KR2XL construction: http://users.erols.com/donreid/kr_page.htm Aviation Surplus: http://users.erols.com/donreid/Airparts.htm EAA Chapter 231: http://eaa231.org Ultralights: http://usua250.org --=====================_1014244==_.ALT-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 08:58:36 -0500 To: From: "Mark Langford" Subject: SNF Message-ID: <000901c0bea1$ae2e0ec0$561cf618@600athlon> Jack asked how long we'd be at SNF. It's the height of tax season so Dana wants to get back early, so we're leaving for home on Monday, which is fine with me. Weather for Lakeland is for four sunny days, lows in the upper 60's and highs in the mid 80's, no mention of rain. I'll send pictures. We're meeting up with Doug Steen in Deland at 2PM, so we're outta here... Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama mailto:langford@hiwaay.net see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 18:05:54 -0400 To: From: "Berry Rennie" Subject: new to KR2 Message-ID: <001001c0bee5$c6501860$04a30ad8@yohan> ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C0BEC4.38E3E220 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have just purchased a KR2 that has the boat stage and tail feathers = finished for the most part it was built as a taildragger with = retractable gear I am wondering if it is possible with out seriouslly = risking my life and others lives to modify this to a trigear with out = rebuilding the fuselage also I would like to strech the fuselage = roughly 12'' to 16'' the reason for this is I would like to be able to = put a small seat for my son in the rear to be able to fly all 3 of us = around perhaps cross country I am 5'4'' weight 150pds my wife is5'1'' = weight under 115pds my son is 2 not much weight there I am looking at = using a 13b rotary engine with mods to shed some weight roughly 120 or = so horses and I want to run wing tanks any and all help is greatly = appreciated also if anyone has and could give me a copy of the 2s = upgrade plans that would be appreciated thanks for having this site for = help Im sure you all will hear many questions as I take this on once = again thank you. =20 Berry Rennie ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C0BEC4.38E3E220-- ------------------------------ End of krnet Digest ***********************************