From: To: Subject: krnet Digest 8 Apr 2001 23:25:07 -0000 Issue 204 Date: Sunday, April 08, 2001 4:25 PM krnet Digest 8 Apr 2001 23:25:07 -0000 Issue 204 Topics (messages 4926 through 4948): Re: she flys n1055a 4926 by: bob Re: SNF 4927 by: Tom Crawford 4928 by: T152GMAN.aol.com Re: Air Intake 4929 by: POND CARTER Re: new to KR2 4930 by: Dale Baldwin Re: 3 seater KR2 4931 by: Rick Hubka windshield 4932 by: Dr. No tri gear 4933 by: Berry Rennie 4935 by: Austin Clark N998 MG update 4934 by: garbez 4936 by: Adrian new airfoils 4937 by: Berry Rennie 4939 by: Mark Jones 2001 KR Gathering 4938 by: Jim Morehead 4940 by: Mark Jones Re: new KR-2 4941 by: garbez wanted Dragon fly canopy. 4942 by: POND CARTER she flys debriefing 4943 by: Flymaca711689.cs.com 4944 by: CS To Berry and other new folks... 4945 by: CS loss of expertise 4946 by: w.g. kirkland Re: flex-cable's 4947 by: w.g. kirkland H.S. Dr. Dean style 4948 by: Timothy Brown Administrivia: To subscribe to the digest, e-mail: To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail: To post to the list, e-mail: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 18:55:20 -0400 To: , From: "bob" Subject: Re: KR> she flys n1055a Message-ID: <001401c0beec$a88ac580$02000003@i4t4j9> Sorry to here ya got banged up. Hope you get the new gear to work for you. please keep us informed about the modification, and get well soon. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2001 21:34:56 -0500 To: Mark Langford From: Tom Crawford CC: krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> SNF Message-ID: <3ACE6EC0.4BEC@ufl.edu> Mark Langford wrote: > > Jack asked how long we'd be at SNF. It's the height of tax season so Dana > wants to get back early, so we're leaving for home on Monday, which is fine > with me. I will be flying 2TC to LAL in the AM (SAT). I have to fly out Sat. evening, but will be back on Thursday, will stay until Sat. 04-14. Hope to see some KR folks. -- Tom Crawford Gainesville, FL N262TC Mailto:toys@ufl.edu ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 22:23:12 EDT To: toys@ufl.edu, langford@hiwaay.net From: T152GMAN@aol.com CC: krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> SNF Message-ID: <71.c3e193b.27ffd410@aol.com> --part1_71.c3e193b.27ffd410_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Are you guys going to be around for the kr dinner with great plains? --part1_71.c3e193b.27ffd410_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2001 22:49:13 -0700 To: Manager Bill , kr From: POND CARTER Subject: Re: Air Intake Message-ID: <3ACEAA59.BC285743@home.com> Thanks Bill for the detailed info that was exactly the info that I was looking for! I'm going to order the book too. Carter Two more months to take off! Manager Bill wrote: > > Pond Carter and krnet > > Subject: Air Intake > > Pond: > > On April 3, you postyed a question about air ointake size on krnet. Kent > Paser and I of EAA Chapter 301 discussed this problem quite a few years > ago while he was doing speed mods on his Mustang II. You can read about > it in his book, “Speed With Economy.” You can order directly from him or > through EAA.. > > All the air going into your C-65 goes through the carburetor opening. > The engine is about 180 cubic inches and runs at about 2700 rpm. Assume > 80 percent breathing efficiency and dividing by 2 because the intake > valaves are open only half the time, you are pulling about 3240 cubic > inches per second through the carburetor. Assume it has a 2 inch > entrance diameter which is 3.142 squaree inches, so you are pulling air > at close to 1000 inches per second. This is 83 feet per second, or just > about 60 mph. So if you make your air inlet just 2 inches in diameter, > you will be traying to ram more air into the inlet than the engine can > breathe at any speed above 60 mph. So your 2 inch intake opening will > push aside some the air that is trying to get into it. This is known as > spillage drag. However, it is a lot less than the spillage due to trying > to ram a 5 x 5.5 opening through the air. > > Furthermore, by slowing the air down before it enters the filter, you > will reduce the pressure loss across the filter and will therefore get > more pressure at the carburetor inlet, which will give you more power. > > So you need a reverse funnel (small end pointing forward) expanding from > 2 inches to 5.5 inches with about 35 degrees included angle. This means > a funnel about 3.5 inches long, or longer if you have the space in your > cowling. > > For all you KR tinkerers, the current issue of Sport Aviation has an > article by Mark Yelich, who used Kent’s book to improve his one-off > BIPLANE from 120 mph to 170 mph. Remember, increasing power by 15 > percent only gives you a 5 percent increase in speed; decreasing drag by > 15 percent gives you a 7.5 percent increase in speed. > > Bill Marcy > Still staring at those cathode rays ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 04:48:30 -0400 To: "Berry Rennie" , From: "Dale Baldwin" Subject: Re: KR> new to KR2 Message-Id: <20010407085057.NPIY18668.mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net@computername> Berry, IMHO by time you get done with the mods your son wont be small any more. My 21 year old son wasn't even born when I started at the point you are at but thats another story. The tri gear might be worthwhile and would be an easy swap over, but stretching the fuselage at this point, you might as well start over. Sincerely, Dale Baldwin KR-2, hoping to fly this year.... ---------- From: Berry Rennie To: krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: KR> new to KR2 Date: Friday, April 06, 2001 6:05 PM I have just purchased a KR2 that has the boat stage and tail feathers finished for the most part it was built as a taildragger with retractable gear I am wondering if it is possible with out seriouslly risking my life and others lives to modify this to a trigear with out rebuilding the fuselage also I would like to strech the fuselage roughly 12'' to 16'' the reason for this is I would like to be able to put a small seat for my son in the rear to be able to fly all 3 of us around perhaps cross country I am 5'4'' weight 150pds my wife is5'1'' weight under 115pds my son is 2 not much weight there I am looking at using a 13b rotary engine with mods to shed some weight roughly 120 or so horses and I want to run wing tanks any and all help is greatly appreciated also if anyone has and could give me a copy of the 2s upgrade plans that would be appreciated thanks for having this site for help Im sure you all will hear many questions as I take this on once again thank you. Berry Rennie ---------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 08:17:55 -0600 To: "Berry Rennie" , From: "Rick Hubka" Subject: Re: 3 seater KR2 Message-ID: <001c01c0bf6d$8a8e5ca0$c5c5fea9@cg.shawcable.net> Hi Berry I don't want to sound mean or negative here and this is just my opinion. With just the boat stage and tail feathers finished... you still have at approx 2 to 15 years left on your project. Your son will be 5 to 18 years when your finished. If the boats done and you're going to stretch it 12" to 16"... May as well start over. My boats done and I'm half done the tail (2 years to get that far). I just went in the garage and looked at it. To stretch it 12" to 16"... I'd start over. The KR2 was never designed to be a 3 seater and dispite the light weight of you and your wife and son, you also have the C of G to contend with. Also The area behind the spars is not structurally sound enough for a seat unless major changes and added weight were to be implemented. When I think about the seat installation and entry access changes..... yes "Major" changes. If done... it may fail inspection and not fly. My advice (because the foundation is done) is to build it the way is is and enjoy building a 2 seat KR2 without an extra ?00 hours in mods. Family can take turns flying with dad... Most of us all have families and everyone will be taking turns... Then again if you must have a 3 seater. maybe you sell your KR2 kit for what you paid for it and look around some more. Sorry for the negative advice Berry. I'm just trying to be honest and help you make the right decision Rick Hubka rick@hubka.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Berry Rennie" To: Sent: Friday, April 06, 2001 4:05 PM Subject: KR> new to KR2 I have just purchased a KR2 that has the boat stage and tail feathers finished for the most part it was built as a taildragger with retractable gear I am wondering if it is possible with out seriouslly risking my life and others lives to modify this to a trigear with out rebuilding the fuselage also I would like to strech the fuselage roughly 12'' to 16'' the reason for this is I would like to be able to put a small seat for my son in the rear to be able to fly all 3 of us around perhaps cross country I am 5'4'' weight 150pds my wife is5'1'' weight under 115pds my son is 2 not much weight there I am looking at using a 13b rotary engine with mods to shed some weight roughly 120 or so horses and I want to run wing tanks any and all help is greatly appreciated also if anyone has and could give me a copy of the 2s upgrade plans that would be appreciated thanks for having this site for help Im sure you all will hear many questions as I take this on once again thank you. Berry Rennie ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2001 11:49:42 -0500 To: krnet From: "Dr. No" Subject: windshield Message-ID: <3ACF451D.1CA2D0D6@pol.net> Could any of you with a wrapped windshield provide approximate dimensions of Plexiglas you used? Thanks, Scott ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 14:16:45 -0400 To: From: "Berry Rennie" Subject: tri gear Message-ID: <001401c0bf8e$e86888c0$efa30ad8@yohan> ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01C0BF6D.6031F0C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ok Ive decided that stretching the fuselage is a lot of work and a bad = idea but what about converting from the taildragger to a tri gear anyone = have an idea as to where to start and or possibly a web site that could = help with pics possibly all help appreciated this may seem like a dumb = question but like I said before totally new to this and want to do it = right. =20 Berry Rennie ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01C0BF6D.6031F0C0-- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 17:52:14 -0500 To: "Berry Rennie" , From: "Austin Clark" Subject: Re: KR> tri gear Message-ID: <001701c0bfb5$64ccc0e0$0100a8c0@mshome.net> Dielaero has a trigear kit for the KR. Here is a link the their site. http://www.diehlaero.com/landing.htm Austin Clark http://www.datasync.com/~itac/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Berry Rennie" To: Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2001 1:16 PM Subject: KR> tri gear Ok Ive decided that stretching the fuselage is a lot of work and a bad idea but what about converting from the taildragger to a tri gear anyone have an idea as to where to start and or possibly a web site that could help with pics possibly all help appreciated this may seem like a dumb question but like I said before totally new to this and want to do it right. Berry Rennie ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 18:57:59 -0500 To: "KR-POST" From: "garbez" Subject: N998 MG update Message-ID: <001401c0bfbe$af4b1a00$fb5cfea9@msgtlg.netins.net> Well I have loaded my KR on the trailer and tomorrow I am taking her back to the airport. Today was out of the question as we had wind gusts of 50 to 65 miles per hour. I am going to test it on the ground for a few hours and if everything is well I am back in the air! For you that don't know I have already flown my KR-2 with an 1835 and now it has the type 4 rear drive 2600cc the difference in horse power should be incredible. Will post flight data as soon as I get it in the air. Mike Garbez N998MG Griswold, IA msgtlg@netins.net ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2001 19:27:19 -0600 To: garbez From: Adrian CC: KR-POST Subject: Re: KR> N998 MG update Message-ID: <3ACFBE77.43CF7729@cuug.ab.ca> Good show Mike, this should give a good comparison. Looking forward to your report. garbez wrote: > > Well I have loaded my KR on the trailer and tomorrow I am taking her back to > the airport. Today was out of the question as we had wind gusts of 50 to 65 > miles per hour. I am going to test it on the ground for a few hours and if > everything is well I am back in the air! For you that don't know I have > already flown my KR-2 with an 1835 and now it has the type 4 rear drive > 2600cc the difference in horse power should be incredible. Will post flight > data as soon as I get it in the air. > > Mike Garbez N998MG > Griswold, IA > msgtlg@netins.net > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org -- Adrian VE6AFY Calgary, Alberta Mailto:cartera@cuug.ab.ca http://www.cuug.ab.ca/~cartera ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 21:50:49 -0400 To: From: "Berry Rennie" Subject: new airfoils Message-ID: <001001c0bfce$7be2c040$1c535c40@yohan> ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C0BFAC.CF195D40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ok my plane has the boat stage finished as well as the tail feathers it = was all built to the planes. I hear a lot about the new airfoils but not = sure what to go with the AS5045, AS5046, AS5048 should I build this new = airfoil since mine have not even been started the winglets on the = fuselage are already constructed to the raf foil will that be a big = problem? also should I rebuild the tail feathers? all input appreciated. Berry Rennie ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C0BFAC.CF195D40-- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2001 21:43:27 -0500 To: Berry Rennie From: Mark Jones CC: krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> new airfoils Message-ID: <3ACFD04F.768BA4A5@execpc.com> Berry, Converting to the AS5046 airfoil is your design of choice since you have the center spars already. The aft spar will have to be raised approximately 3/4" above the lower longeron to give you a one degree incidence. I too had built mine with intentions of going with the RAF until the AS came out and I saw the light in the laminar flow vs the RAF. I have some good shots and info on the conversion on my web site http://sites.netscape.net/n886mj/homepage and then there is Mark Langford's site http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/airfoil.html on the airfoil and then if that is not enough, here are installation procedures offered by Mark Langford http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/tet/as5046inst.html As far as redoing the tail feathers, I would recommend increasing the size of them to give you more pitch stability. If and when you order a set of AS airfoil plans from Trailing Edge Technology http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/tet/as5046inst.html you will also receive a set of horizontal and vertical stabilizer plans which I feel are far superior to the stock Rand version. Mark Jones Berry Rennie wrote: > Ok my plane has the boat stage finished as well as the tail feathers it was all built to the planes. I hear a lot about the new airfoils but not sure what to go with the AS5045, AS5046, AS5048 should I build this new airfoil since mine have not even been started the winglets on the fuselage are already constructed to the raf foil will that be a big problem? also should I rebuild the tail feathers? all input appreciated. > > Berry Rennie -- Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at mailto:flykr2s@execpc.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://sites.netscape.net/n886mj/homepage ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2001 18:53:53 -0700 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: "Jim Morehead" Subject: 2001 KR Gathering Netter's What is the date for the 2001 KR Gathering, and who is the contact person? Jim Morehead Cameron Park, CA ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2001 21:48:16 -0500 To: Jim Morehead From: Mark Jones CC: krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> 2001 KR Gathering Message-ID: <3ACFD170.3921F2D6@execpc.com> The "Official" 2001 KR Gathering will be in Pine Bluff, Arkansas, with Tommy Waymack hosting the affair this time around. The dates will be 21, 22, and 23 September and we will get you the information as soon as we know. We will have the same hangar that we had in 1997. We will try to use the Best Western Motel at The Pines Mall again but Tommy asks you wait to make your reservations for him to set up a block of rooms and work out a discount with the management. Pine Bluff is located about 40 miles south of Little Rock, Arkansas at the end of Interstate 530. You can expect about 10-25 KRs to fly in for the Gathering, depending on weather. This is THE place to put your hands on real KR aircraft so don't miss it! Most everybody that wants a ride in one gets it. You won't likely forget it soon either. We will once again have dinner catered Friday evening along with lunch on Saturday. Jim Morehead wrote: > Netter's > What is the date for the 2001 KR Gathering, and who is the contact > person? > > Jim Morehead > Cameron Park, CA > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org -- Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at mailto:flykr2s@execpc.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://sites.netscape.net/n886mj/homepage ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 23:34:51 -0500 To: "KR-POST" From: "garbez" Subject: Re: new KR-2 Message-ID: <000501c0bfe5$46e98920$fb5cfea9@msgtlg.netins.net> Berry wrote: Ok Ive decided that stretching the fuselage is a lot of work and a bad idea but what about converting from the taildragger to a tri gear anyone have an idea as to where to start and or possibly a web site that could help with pics possibly all help appreciated this may seem like a dumb question but like I said before totally new to this and want to do it right. Berry Rennie Berry, converting the KR-2 to tri gear is very easy. I bought my KR the same way you did and it had the retracts stuff under it. First thing you do is just remove all the tail dragger stuff that is bolted to the spars, leave the wood they epoxied in place. It just gives you more strength on the main spar and it won't hurt anything and if they already put the hole in the side of the fuselage for the spring bar that's OK your stub wings will cover this hole anyway and the hole will be a good place to run your brake lines and such. Now you need to call Dan Diehl at 918-299-4445 he makes the tri-gear set up for the KR-2. Once you get it and read the instruction you will find it very simple to install. You can see my KR-2 on the Great Plains Aircraft Supply web site which is www.greatplainsas.com scroll to the bottom of the page and click on Mike Garbez's KR-2 Good Luck, Mike Garbez N998MG Griswold, IA msgtlg@netins.net (712) 778-2449 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 08 Apr 2001 08:14:19 -0700 To: kr From: POND CARTER Subject: wanted Dragon fly canopy. Message-ID: <3AD0804B.718DC974@home.com> If any one has a canopy that they would like to sell or knows of one please email me direct Carter ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2001 10:23:00 EDT To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: Flymaca711689@cs.com Subject: she flys debriefing Message-ID: <87.95eff10.2801ce44@cs.com> i called dan deli for help on the nose gear problem sense he made my first nose gear to replace the fiberglass one he thanks it may be conv gear legs turn around. idont no who installed gear to replace the retracts. nose gear weight is 150 LB with header tank full he's making new one thicker wall epoxy filled. my low rpms were due to timing needed advance. me getting cut was dum!!! growing up around airplanes safety is #1 have become relaxed about no shoulder harness old aircraft just did not have them. all change my thinking on this. damage nose gear prop spinner must replace crank repair lower cowl under 800 dollars all be back in air in month. cant wait!!!!!! on grass all that pitch talk is bullshit !!!! it fly's great just relax swift is much harder to fly then kr2 take off landing is like a aircoupe . mac bb sport ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2001 07:35:44 -0700 (PDT) To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: CS Subject: Re: KR> she flys debriefing Message-ID: <20010408143544.18179.qmail@web13903.mail.yahoo.com> Hi, Based on your earlier experience, maybe you mean... She flys de-briefly? Chuck --- Flymaca711689@cs.com wrote: > i called dan deli for help on the nose gear problem > sense he made my first > nose gear to replace the fiberglass one he thanks it > may be conv gear legs > turn around. idont no who installed gear to replace > the retracts. nose gear > weight is 150 LB with header tank full he's making > new one thicker wall epoxy > filled. my low rpms were due to timing needed > advance. me getting cut was > dum!!! growing up around airplanes safety is #1 have > become relaxed about no > shoulder harness old aircraft just did not have > them. all change my thinking > on this. damage nose gear prop spinner must replace > crank repair lower cowl > under 800 dollars all be back in air in month. cant > wait!!!!!! on grass all > that pitch talk is bullshit !!!! it fly's great just > relax swift is much > harder to fly then kr2 take off landing is like a > aircoupe . > > mac bb sport > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org > > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: > krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: > krnet-help@mailinglists.org > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2001 09:23:27 -0700 (PDT) To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: CS Subject: To Berry and other new folks... Message-ID: <20010408162327.10674.qmail@web13901.mail.yahoo.com> Hi Berry, I decided to make this an open letter as it might help other new folks. Remember, when you reply offline the majority of KRNet loses your input. Obviously if you're selling something, making travel/meeting arrangements, etc., offline is appropriate. So here's the open letter to new folks (hate the term "newbie.") ------------------------------------------- Hi Berry... That's one thing you can say for being new...everyone else has been there. I was...about 4-5 weeks ago. First, if you're serious about a KR, go here: http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/index.html?by=Date and read all the way through. You'll be surprised how many of your questions have already been asked. I was. Next, go here: http://www.krnet.org/ Try to spend a while exploring this site. Make it a point to check out individual builder's homepages. Not only will this answer a lot of questions, it will also give you new ideas and approaches to things you probably haven't even thought of yet. Last on the "required reading" list, go here... http://fly.hiwaay.net/~langford/kr2s.html Be warned, this is a "graphics-intensive" site, not because Mark is into "Flash-Shock-Whiz-bang," but because everything is profusely illustrated. I spent a week or so trying to absorb the info on this site, and finally said screw it and downloaded the whole damn thing to my hard drive while I browsed other sites. Also be warned that there are some fairly accomplished people on KRNet, and they generally don't suffer fools gladly. You are expected to do the majority of your own legwork. A question like "I'm thinking of using a small header tank being fed by wing tanks, has anyone had problems with this?" will probably get 6-8 informative responses. A question like, "I want to build a KR 2S, what's the best engine?" will be virtually ignored. Finally, just some gratuitious advice to a newbie (I meant "new guy or gal"), be prepared for "flame wars." The KR world seems to be divided into two fairly well-defined camps, the "stockers" vs the "mods." Stick around long enough and you will see what I mean. I advise you do like me...lay low, keep your mouth shut, your ears open and your head down, and learn what you can from both camps. For the record, I'm a mod. But "Engineer Bill," who I consider a stocker, is one of the most valuable sources of hard engineered data that I have seen. I'm done, that's my advice to a newbie (such as myself). Read all you can, follow every link, do a Google search on "Rand-Robinson"...the usual research stuff. Buy books about plane design. But remember, it's your plane. Every engineering/design issue involves a trade-off...you decide what is important to you. This is the plane that YOU will fly--and possibly die--in. Think long and hard before every decision. EVERY decision you make has long-term implications on how your plane performs. Chuck PS...if you stick around long enough, you will find out who the "gurus" are. I, and they, and everybody else knows who they are, so I won't list them here. Pay attention to these folks, even if their advice conflicts with your design parameters. This place is like a free aerodynamics-engineering class. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 19:28:10 -0400 To: "krnet" From: "w.g. kirkland" Subject: loss of expertise Message-ID: <103f01c0c04d$dabfedc0$79905bd1@kirkland> ------=_NextPart_000_06E3_01C0BD3D.621D0E60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Steve; Dana Stick around, 99 percent of the members really appreciate = your contribution and your expertise. I know I do. "everyone is entitled to behave badly once in a while; some just abuse = the privilege! W.G.(Bill) KIRKLAND kirkland@vianet.on.ca ------=_NextPart_000_06E3_01C0BD3D.621D0E60-- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 21:01:41 -0400 To: "Brian. P Vasseur" , From: "w.g. kirkland" Cc: Subject: Re: KR> flex-cable's Message-ID: <104401c0c04d$dfc1aac0$79905bd1@kirkland> I would have to concur with Brian. The throttle cable on my 150 did just that, after 11,000 hrs, and jammed. To fix it we just pulled the inner cable out and put in a new one. Interesting idea though and looking at other vehicles can produce some good ideas. Snowmobile engines for instance, light, aircooled and many produce over 100 hp. There is motor up/down trim position indicator on boats that might be good for a flap position indicator, I keep eyeing the front forks on bikes, with their shock absorber , for my nosewheel. I have a 2/1 planetary gear set from an old mustang trany that would make a nice reduction unit. W.G.(Bill) KIRKLAND kirkland@vianet.on.ca ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian. P Vasseur" To: Cc: Sent: Monday, March 26, 2001 4:58 PM Subject: Re: KR> flex-cable's > I think you need to realize there's aircraft cables and lawnmower cables. > The aircraft cables are a sealed unit (you have to get them made to a > specific length), are teflon coated or smoothness and have an adjustment > range on each end. It's not necessary to secure them other than the locknut > fitting at each end, so they can be routed in any direction. The straighter > they are the smoother they are but that goes without saying. > > Another post said they had to be secured every few inches which is false. As > long as the two ends of the sheath are secure what happens in the middle is > irrelevant. > > Philip Heavirland wrote: > >Flex-cable's have a surprise they can break off a single stand inside the > >housing,and it can lock the to go one diction only.Pheavirland@msn.com
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> -- > Brian. P Vasseur -- vasseurb@cadvision.com > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org > > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2001 16:25:06 -0700 (PDT) To: Group KR NET From: Timothy Brown Subject: H.S. Dr. Dean style Message-ID: <20010408232506.24270.qmail@web9504.mail.yahoo.com> Dear All: I am using Dr. Dean's hinge plan for my H.S. I was just in my workshop getting all lined up with the elevator when a problem (I think) came up. First, I have to install the hardware before the foam. This creates a problem with the piece of foam up against the elevator, what with the bearings in place. It seems that it would be next to impossible to sand a nice curve to mate the elevator with the bearings in place. (I am going with 7). My thought is to remove the bearings, epoxy (with 5 minute stuff) the washers in place for the bearings, then do the same with the foam. I could then sand the curve to near perfect, (or a reasonable facsimile thereof), run the bolts through the spar and foam, remove the bolts, enlarge the holes to accept the bearings and screw them on. Then I could foam the interior and leading edge. Of course, one problem with this would be the delicate nature of the sanded foam on the bearing side until I got it glassed. With respect to the sanding, I know Mark used PVC but building "stock" places a taper done to 5/8". For sanding purposes, would one use a 1/2" ID piece and maybe something larger for the center area? I hope someone out there has solved this dilemma already and has some helpful hints. Tim __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ End of krnet Digest ***********************************