From: To: Subject: krnet Digest 21 Apr 2001 14:30:25 -0000 Issue 210 Date: Saturday, April 21, 2001 7:30 AM krnet Digest 21 Apr 2001 14:30:25 -0000 Issue 210 Topics (messages 5021 through 5037): Re: Long Winded RE:(People Leaving List) 5021 by: w.g. kirkland 5022 by: Cary Honeywell Retractable landing gear 5023 by: aerobair INSPECTIONS FINAL 5024 by: pjvisc.netzero.net VW ENGINE PRICE? 5025 by: Bill Gaudlip 5026 by: HEATH, DANIEL R 5031 by: pjvisc.netzero.net Re: landing gear 5027 by: Jerry Mahurin 5028 by: Hafsteinn Jonasson 5029 by: Mark Langford Re: AOL issues 5030 by: Mark Langford 5032 by: Cary Honeywell Re: Spray foam as glue 5033 by: Bobby Muse need 200HP? 5034 by: Oscar Zuniga Re: First Flight 5035 by: RONALD.FREIBERGER AOL PROBLEM 5036 by: pjvisc.netzero.net Re: First Flight/CONGRATULATIONS! 5037 by: Frank Ross Administrivia: To subscribe to the digest, e-mail: To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail: To post to the list, e-mail: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 00:36:57 -0400 To: "William J. Starrs" , , , From: "w.g. kirkland" Subject: Re: KR> Long Winded RE:(People Leaving List) Message-ID: <006a01c0c88a$5f688020$05b45bd1@kirkland> Lord! I think I qualify on all three counts. :0) W.G.(Bill) KIRKLAND kirkland@vianet.on.ca ----- Original Message ----- From: "William J. Starrs" To: ; ; Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 12:23 PM Subject: Re: KR> Long Winded RE:(People Leaving List) > When you read some thing that upsets you on this net you have to remember > that with close to 500 members you are going to get some pretty unstable > people. Something like 3% of the population is psychotic,10% Very > neurotic,and 20% addicted to booze, drugs or something else. For an Airplane > builder that's 30 defective nuts, 50 busted bolts and 125 loose screws. So > why are we surprised when some one freaks out over nothing. Bill Starrs > (some where between 3 an 20 %) Prescott, AZ > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ross R. Youngblood" > To: ; > Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 10:11 PM > Subject: KR> Long Winded RE:(People Leaving List) > > > > Steve, > > I think that to be a long term participant on this list you have to > develop > > a > > thick skin. I haven' "left" the KR list in terms of unsubscribing since I > > joined, > > but I have had long periods where I simply deleted large blocks of emails > without > > > > reading them. I figure anyone who wants to reach me can email me > directly. > > Off and on their are topics which are called "dead horses" which come > up > > from time to time. And there is a lot of traffic where folks are > complaining > > about > > this, and wanting readers to read the archives etc.... well frankly I > think that > > there is somthing to be said for bringing up the old arguments again and > again, > > so that they are more "alive". If all of the questions had been answered > we > > could simply post all of the KRnet archives, and shut down the list. > > Somthing that makes the KR distinctly KR like is the discussions over > > pich sensitivity, which airfoil to use, how to widen the fuselage, what > type > > of foam, how long to stretch, what powerplant etc. Somehow, I can't > > imagine these levels of modifications being bantered about on the RV or > > Lancair list. > > I could do without the flaming, but for the most part I figure this > is > > a basicly free list, so anything goes, which is in a way what makes it > such > > a fun place to hang out from time to time. I'm kind of like Groucho Marx > > in a way, in that I am not sure I want to be a part of any club which > would > > have me as a member. If we tighten up the requirements for KRnet, then > > in some respect, it changes the flavor of the 'net. > > In my opinion, a lot of us have ideas of how we are going to do our > KR, then > > we look for examples to back up the direction we are headed in. There are > many > > folks I know who think I am a bit strange to build an airplane, then there > are > > those > > who have seen my project, and are convinced of it. I do it because I have > a > > really > > good time doing it, so if somone doesn't like my choice of powerplant, or > paint > > job > > or airfoil, it really doesn't bother me, the point for me in this activity > is to > > have some > > fun. > > Sometimes, I wonder if Ken Rand would have made all of these > modifications > > to his KR. The March '74 issue of Sport Aviation sort of gave me the > impression > > > > he was so busy having fun flying, that perhaps he would have thought we > were all > > too preoccupied with changes to have fun, he was a small guy, and wouldn't > need > > to widen the fuselage and if the VW worked, perhaps he would have stuck > with it. > > Or > > maybe he would have had a terrific job making a Chevy V6 version fly. I'd > like > > to > > think however, that he would be more interested in having fun doing the > > modifications, > > than defending any improvements that the changes might make. > > > > I kind of think that's where some of the Airfoil and Corvair arguments > go > > South, > > I don't think that the point is which one is "better", but which one would > be > > more fun? > > Would you rather build to the plans, and have a KR that is similar to the > other > > KR's, > > or are you looking for the challange that the different airfoil, brings to > your > > project. > > > > Building a KR is a big project (at least for me it is 12years and > counting), we > > should > > all be out here having fun. > > > > -- Ross > > > > Horn2004@aol.com wrote: > > > > > In a message dated 4/15/01 12:14:51 AM, kr-n899eb@mindspring.com writes: > > > > > > <> > > > > > > I've been on the list for about 6 + years now and have noticed a drop > off of > > > posts after large flame sessions. The last one here occurred over the > > > airfoil. After that we lost Dana Overall and Mark Langford. They were > two of > > > the best we had and some of the most prolific. They got fed up with the > > > ATTITUDE being displayed by some of the "newer" members and left. And > you > > > don't see those members with the ATTITUDE contributing very much, do > you. > > > > > > I would be willing to bet that you're not going to see very much in the > way > > > of worth while content for a very long time. Too bad. Kinda pisses me > off > > > that the closed mind, open mouth crowd does little more than drive off > the > > > better participants. > > > > > > So in answer to your question about where has everyone gone, I suspect > you'll > > > get your answer at the next gathering when they show up with their > finished > > > aircraft and we show up with our questions. > > > > > > Steve Horn > > > horn2004@aol.com > > > Dallas, TX > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org > > > > > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > > > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org > > > > > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org > > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 01:09:10 -0400 To: From: "Cary Honeywell" Subject: Re: KR> Long Winded RE:(People Leaving List) Message-ID: <000701c0c88e$dea461c0$2a05a8c0@HOME> I resemble that remark! - Cary - ----- Original Message ----- From: "w.g. kirkland" To: "William J. Starrs" ; ; ; Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 12:36 AM Subject: Re: KR> Long Winded RE:(People Leaving List) > Lord! I think I qualify on all three counts. :0) > W.G.(Bill) KIRKLAND > kirkland@vianet.on.ca > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "William J. Starrs" > To: ; ; > Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 12:23 PM > Subject: Re: KR> Long Winded RE:(People Leaving List) > > > > When you read some thing that upsets you on this net you have to remember > > that with close to 500 members you are going to get some pretty unstable > > people. Something like 3% of the population is psychotic,10% Very > > neurotic,and 20% addicted to booze, drugs or something else. For an > Airplane > > builder that's 30 defective nuts, 50 busted bolts and 125 loose screws. So > > why are we surprised when some one freaks out over nothing. Bill Starrs > > (some where between 3 an 20 %) Prescott, AZ > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Ross R. Youngblood" > > To: ; > > Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 10:11 PM > > Subject: KR> Long Winded RE:(People Leaving List) > > > > > > > Steve, > > > I think that to be a long term participant on this list you have to > > develop > > > a > > > thick skin. I haven' "left" the KR list in terms of unsubscribing since > I > > > joined, > > > but I have had long periods where I simply deleted large blocks of > emails > > without > > > > > > reading them. I figure anyone who wants to reach me can email me > > directly. > > > Off and on their are topics which are called "dead horses" which > come > > up > > > from time to time. And there is a lot of traffic where folks are > > complaining > > > about > > > this, and wanting readers to read the archives etc.... well frankly I > > think that > > > there is somthing to be said for bringing up the old arguments again and > > again, > > > so that they are more "alive". If all of the questions had been > answered > > we > > > could simply post all of the KRnet archives, and shut down the list. > > > Somthing that makes the KR distinctly KR like is the discussions > over > > > pich sensitivity, which airfoil to use, how to widen the fuselage, what > > type > > > of foam, how long to stretch, what powerplant etc. Somehow, I can't > > > imagine these levels of modifications being bantered about on the RV or > > > Lancair list. > > > I could do without the flaming, but for the most part I figure this > > is > > > a basicly free list, so anything goes, which is in a way what makes it > > such > > > a fun place to hang out from time to time. I'm kind of like Groucho > Marx > > > in a way, in that I am not sure I want to be a part of any club which > > would > > > have me as a member. If we tighten up the requirements for KRnet, then > > > in some respect, it changes the flavor of the 'net. > > > In my opinion, a lot of us have ideas of how we are going to do our > > KR, then > > > we look for examples to back up the direction we are headed in. There > are > > many > > > folks I know who think I am a bit strange to build an airplane, then > there > > are > > > those > > > who have seen my project, and are convinced of it. I do it because I > have > > a > > > really > > > good time doing it, so if somone doesn't like my choice of powerplant, > or > > paint > > > job > > > or airfoil, it really doesn't bother me, the point for me in this > activity > > is to > > > have some > > > fun. > > > Sometimes, I wonder if Ken Rand would have made all of these > > modifications > > > to his KR. The March '74 issue of Sport Aviation sort of gave me the > > impression > > > > > > he was so busy having fun flying, that perhaps he would have thought we > > were all > > > too preoccupied with changes to have fun, he was a small guy, and > wouldn't > > need > > > to widen the fuselage and if the VW worked, perhaps he would have stuck > > with it. > > > Or > > > maybe he would have had a terrific job making a Chevy V6 version fly. > I'd > > like > > > to > > > think however, that he would be more interested in having fun doing the > > > modifications, > > > than defending any improvements that the changes might make. > > > > > > I kind of think that's where some of the Airfoil and Corvair > arguments > > go > > > South, > > > I don't think that the point is which one is "better", but which one > would > > be > > > more fun? > > > Would you rather build to the plans, and have a KR that is similar to > the > > other > > > KR's, > > > or are you looking for the challange that the different airfoil, brings > to > > your > > > project. > > > > > > Building a KR is a big project (at least for me it is 12years and > > counting), we > > > should > > > all be out here having fun. > > > > > > -- Ross > > > > > > Horn2004@aol.com wrote: > > > > > > > In a message dated 4/15/01 12:14:51 AM, kr-n899eb@mindspring.com > writes: > > > > > > > > <> > > > > > > > > I've been on the list for about 6 + years now and have noticed a drop > > off of > > > > posts after large flame sessions. The last one here occurred over the > > > > airfoil. After that we lost Dana Overall and Mark Langford. They were > > two of > > > > the best we had and some of the most prolific. They got fed up with > the > > > > ATTITUDE being displayed by some of the "newer" members and left. And > > you > > > > don't see those members with the ATTITUDE contributing very much, do > > you. > > > > > > > > I would be willing to bet that you're not going to see very much in > the > > way > > > > of worth while content for a very long time. Too bad. Kinda pisses me > > off > > > > that the closed mind, open mouth crowd does little more than drive off > > the > > > > better participants. > > > > > > > > So in answer to your question about where has everyone gone, I suspect > > you'll > > > > get your answer at the next gathering when they show up with their > > finished > > > > aircraft and we show up with our questions. > > > > > > > > Steve Horn > > > > horn2004@aol.com > > > > Dallas, TX > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org > > > > > > > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org > > > > > > > > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > > > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org > > > > > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org > > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 07:54:29 -0400 To: "Krnet@Mailinglists. Org" From: aerobair Subject: Retractable landing gear Message-ID: <3ADED1F5.4FD50969@netc.net> Hi ! I am looking for a good still usable 1 inch main spring bar coming from a KR2 to use on my KR 1. I tought I could straighten mine but could not yet find the "oven" long enough to heat threat it. So I decided to come back to the list to one of you who went for the fixed landing gear on their KR 2 . Your bar could have a second life under a KR 1. Thanks......Bob ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 10:34:26 -0400 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: pjvisc@netzero.net Subject: INSPECTIONS FINAL Message-ID: <3ADEF772.7432F9ED@netzero.net> --------------D5055B0FBD79A7AE394AC60D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Has anyone had a final inspection where AC 20-139 was used ? I saw it mentioned in this month's Sport Aviation mag. The article was about 51 % build to qualify. I printed the form and it looks rather detailed. Phil Visconti --------------D5055B0FBD79A7AE394AC60D-- NetZero Platinum No Banner Ads and Unlimited Access Sign Up Today - Only $9.95 per month! http://www.netzero.net ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 11:39:05 -0400 To: "KRNET" From: "Bill Gaudlip" Subject: VW ENGINE PRICE? Message-ID: <000c01c0c8e6$debdfc40$f75b1a0c@BillGaudlip> ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C0C8C5.56B9BEE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello All, =20 I have a local gentleman that has a raw VW engine = straight out of a vehicle for sale. He isn't sure of the size or what = it's come out of and I haven't seen it in person yet but I was curios as = to what the thing might be worth. He's not sure what to charge and I = don't want to get ripped off. I don't really need the engine but if the = price is right I might pick it up as a spare. I know what has to go into = it to make the aero conversion as I built up my 2100 for my KR2 several = years ago. Any help would be greatly appreciated! Thanks In advance!!! Bill Gaudlip Hooversville PA bgaudlip@lenzlink.net ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C0C8C5.56B9BEE0-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 12:55:20 -0400 To: "'Bill Gaudlip'" , KRNET From: "HEATH, DANIEL R" Subject: RE: KR> VW ENGINE PRICE? Message-ID: There are certain cases that you don't want. I wish I could remember the serial number designations for those cases, but I can't. Steve Bennett at Great Plains may be able to tell you. Your local Bug Shop may also be able to tell you what to avoid. They used to be the cases manufactured in Mexico, but they may have gotten better over the years. I had one of those on my first engine and ended up with a crack in the back of the case and had to replace it. Daniel R. Heath DHeath@SCANA.com 803-217-9984 -----Original Message----- From: Bill Gaudlip [mailto:bgaudlip@lenzlink.net] Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 11:39 AM To: KRNET Subject: KR> VW ENGINE PRICE? Hello All, I have a local gentleman that has a raw VW engine straight out of a vehicle for sale. He isn't sure of the size or what it's come out of and I haven't seen it in person yet but I was curios as to what the thing might be worth. He's not sure what to charge and I don't want to get ripped off. I don't really need the engine but if the price is right I might pick it up as a spare. I know what has to go into it to make the aero conversion as I built up my 2100 for my KR2 several years ago. Any help would be greatly appreciated! Thanks In advance!!! Bill Gaudlip Hooversville PA bgaudlip@lenzlink.net ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 23:06:46 -0400 To: Bill Gaudlip From: pjvisc@netzero.net CC: KRNET Subject: Re: KR> VW ENGINE PRICE? Message-ID: <3ADFA7C6.52BC7FFA@netzero.net> VW engine out of a vehicle ? I did that and junked the whole thing when I took it apart and found a cast crankshaft. Maybe someone else might know what you have if you tell VW vehicle it was in. Maybe SN on engine might help identify it. Phil Visconti Bill Gaudlip wrote: > Hello All, > I have a local gentleman that has a raw VW engine straight out of a vehicle for sale. He isn't sure of the size or what it's come out of and I haven't seen it in person yet but I was curios as to what the thing might be worth. He's not sure what to charge and I don't want to get ripped off. I don't really need the engine but if the price is right I might pick it up as a spare. I know what has to go into it to make the aero conversion as I built up my 2100 for my KR2 several years ago. Any help would be greatly appreciated! Thanks In advance!!! > Bill Gaudlip > Hooversville PA > bgaudlip@lenzlink.net NetZero Platinum No Banner Ads and Unlimited Access Sign Up Today - Only $9.95 per month! http://www.netzero.net ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 17:02:10 To: haffi@vortex.is, krnet@mailinglists.org From: "Jerry Mahurin" Subject: Re: KR> landing gear Message-ID: Hafsteinn, I am at work so I cannot measure the assembly, but I think you want the measurements of the gear leg bracket which mounts on the main spar. Just build according to plans, and the Diehl casting will fit...... Keep on keeping on, Jerry Mahurin Lugoff, SC >From: haffi@vortex.is (Hafsteinn Jonasson) >To: >Subject: KR> landing gear >Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 01:56:10 -0000 > >hi netters > >Im building my main spar and need to know the length of the Diehl axle >mount bracket. If anyone could give me some numbers. > >Thanks. >--- >Hafsteinn Jónasson, Iceland >haffi@vortex.is _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 17:47:47 -0000 To: , From: haffi@vortex.is (Hafsteinn Jonasson) Subject: Re: KR> landing gear Message-ID: <000901c0c8f8$e862af40$5a9104c1@c0g3t9> , but I think you want the > measurements of the gear leg bracket which mounts on the main spar. that's right. i'm using the AS5048/15 airfoil and i'm going to laminate spruce reinforcements to the bottom of the top spar cap and to the top of the bottom spar cap where the gear leg is attached to the spar. thanks again Hafsteinn Jónasson ----- Original Message ----- From: Jerry Mahurin To: ; Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 5:02 PM Subject: Re: KR> landing gear > Hafsteinn, > > I am at work so I cannot measure the assembly, but I think you want the > measurements of the gear leg bracket which mounts on the main spar. Just > build according to plans, and the Diehl casting will fit...... > > Keep on keeping on, > > Jerry Mahurin > Lugoff, SC > > > > >From: haffi@vortex.is (Hafsteinn Jonasson) > >To: > >Subject: KR> landing gear > >Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 01:56:10 -0000 > > > >hi netters > > > >Im building my main spar and need to know the length of the Diehl axle > >mount bracket. If anyone could give me some numbers. > > > >Thanks. > >--- > >Hafsteinn Jónasson, Iceland > >haffi@vortex.is > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org > > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 12:54:32 -0500 To: From: "Mark Langford" Subject: Re: KR> landing gear Message-ID: <005a01c0c8f9$ca083000$561cf618@600athlon> > i'm using the AS5048/15 airfoil and i'm going to laminate > spruce reinforcements to the bottom of the top spar cap and to the top of > the bottom spar cap where the gear leg is attached to the spar. > thanks again I guess you know there's a dimensioned drawing of exactly that at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/tet/as5046inst.html Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama mailto:langford@hiwaay.net see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 19:59:53 -0500 To: From: "Mark Langford" Subject: Fw: AOL issues Message-ID: <007e01c0c935$35a465f0$561cf618@600athlon> As I've always suspected (since most of the victims are AOL folks), AOL is rejecting some members' KRNet mail. This is not surprising, since many of the folks who get mail sporadically are on AOL. If you are lucky enough to get any return mail with error messages, please send it to Alan at the address below. There was an issue earlier this year where mail from AOL users destined to mindspring users was disappearing, to the tune of several million emails, as I recall. You guys who only get 1 out of 3 emails are welcome to contact him also... ------------------------------ Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 7:55 PM Subject: AOL issues > Greetings! > > Issues continue with AOL blocking mail from mailinglists.org. If you would, > please have any of your members that have complained contact me via e-mail > to abc-aol@firehouse.net with what they have gotten back (verbal or via > e-mail) from AOL. > > I'm trying to get this figured out, but the story continues to get stranger. > > Thanks, > AlanC > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 23:19:09 -0400 To: "Mark Langford" , From: "Cary Honeywell" Subject: Re: KR> Fw: AOL issues Message-ID: <002e01c0c948$aa398ae0$2a05a8c0@HOME> Happens to the @home.com crowd as well. The Majordomo has often accused me of not existing and has threatened to oust me from the net. Hasn't happened yet, but it might. - Cary - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Langford" To: Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 8:59 PM Subject: KR> Fw: AOL issues > As I've always suspected (since most of the victims are AOL folks), AOL is > rejecting some members' KRNet mail. This is not surprising, since many of > the folks who get mail sporadically are on AOL ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 11:51:51 -0500 To: flykr2s@execpc.com From: Bobby Muse CC: POND CARTER , kr , "B. McCraw" Subject: Re: KR> Spray foam as glue Message-ID: <3AE06927.13E9E7E8@ev1.net> flykr2s@execpc.com wrote: > Yes, "Great Stuff" is great for gluing foam. Been there and done that. > Just be sure you have your pieces clamped tightly as "great Stuff" is > an expanding foam and will push the parts apart if not clamped or > weighted properly. > > Mark Jones > Wales, WI > mailto:flykr2s@execpc.com > http://sites.netscape.net/n886mj/homepage > > > After reading David Mullins http://n323xl.iwarp.com fantastic web > site. > > I see where he used Great Stuff spray foam to glue Trymere 2000 > > together as I have not heard of anyone doing this before I would > like to > > get a second opinion. It make sense and sure looks good on his > Project! > > Carter and Darren > > Kr2-s heavy building > > > FYI... Great Stuff will work to glue foam together but I used a two part(A & B) expanding foam to glue foam together. It creates a 2# foam with the same density as the foam that used to build my KR. I would paint on part A on one piece of foam and part B on the second piece of foam, rub them together, pin the parts together using short pieces of welding rods or pins and in a few minutes you could start sanding and shaping. I got the two part foam from a boat builders supply but I Aircraft Spruce has it. Good Luck, Bobby Muse ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 20:30:09 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: "Oscar Zuniga" Subject: need 200HP? Message-ID: Hello, netters; since it's Friday, maybe some of y'all are interested in the latest way to spend $14,000, at: http://www.jabiru.net.au/engines/8cylin.html Oscar Zuniga Medford, Oregon mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.geocities.com/taildrags/ _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 20:41:28 -0400 To: "Greg Warr" , "Mike Stinnett" , "Glenn Meyers" , "J Fred Hensley" , "KRNET" From: "RONALD.FREIBERGER" Subject: FW: First Flight Message-ID: Forwarded message from Bob Wetzel. The airplane flies!!!! Ron Freiberger... mailto:ron.martha@mindspring.com -----Original Message----- From: Robert Wetzel [mailto:RDWX2@webtv.net] Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 5:16 PM To: ron.martha@mindspring.com Subject: First Flight My airplane flew for the first time today. KR-2S 925BW performed nicely. Her pilot was too fast on the first approach and had to go around. The second approach was smooth and neat. I am now a test pilot. This week end will probably be the most exciting time of the rest of my life. The KR-2S is much less sensative than the KR-2. More later. Bob Wetzel ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 22:50:29 -0400 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: pjvisc@netzero.net Subject: AOL PROBLEM Message-ID: <3AE0F575.6A56DA7F@netzero.net> --------------2BF798AE10B3E0323DC6F708 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit My daughter is a pilot in San Jose so I forwarded "Forgive me, I couldn't resist." from David Busby. She said she couldn't get msg. She has AOL. Could this be an indication AOL may not be reliable ??? Phil Visconti --------------2BF798AE10B3E0323DC6F708-- NetZero Platinum No Banner Ads and Unlimited Access Sign Up Today - Only $9.95 per month! http://www.netzero.net ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 07:30:24 -0700 (PDT) To: KRNET From: Frank Ross Subject: Re: KR> FW: First Flight/CONGRATULATIONS! Message-ID: <20010421143024.22911.qmail@web4702.mail.yahoo.com> --- "RONALD.FREIBERGER" wrote: > Forwarded message from Bob Wetzel. The airplane > flies!!!! > > My airplane flew for the first time today. KR-2S > 925BW performed nicely .... > Bob Wetzel Congratulations to Bob Wetzel. Hope he has the time flown off in time to fly up to the Gathering. Since this is a Florida Plane, will he have water skiis on it? :) ===== Frank Ross, San Antonio, TX, __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! 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