From: To: Subject: krnet Digest 19 Nov 2001 18:52:47 -0000 Issue 324 Date: Monday, November 19, 2001 10:52 AM krnet Digest 19 Nov 2001 18:52:47 -0000 Issue 324 Topics (messages 7597 through 7626): worn corvair pushrods 7597 by: Richard Parker 7624 by: Richard Parker nose gear(steering) 7598 by: Flymaca711689.cs.com Gear Conversion 7599 by: Philip J. Visconti 7617 by: Jerry Mahurin 7618 by: David Hartz NewWebpage Experiment 7600 by: Ross R. Youngblood PROP HUB A-65 7601 by: Philip J. Visconti Re: New webpage experiment w/music 7602 by: Pat Driscoll Re: kr2 steering nose 7603 by: Greg S Martin 7605 by: Richard Parker 7621 by: Greg S Martin 7623 by: Stuart Deal 7625 by: flykrs.netscape.net KR steering nose 7604 by: Oscar Zuniga KRNet website 7606 by: Oscar Zuniga 7609 by: Ross R. Youngblood 7610 by: Mark Langford 7612 by: Ross R. Youngblood 7613 by: Peg and Mike Meyer Re: new Kr flying 7607 by: Chris Gardiner kr gear convesion 7608 by: Flymaca711689.cs.com Engine Start...Nope 7611 by: Ross R. Youngblood 7615 by: Ronnie King 7616 by: Ross R. Youngblood 7619 by: macwood Transfer of www.krnet.org domain & website keys 7614 by: Ross R. Youngblood KRNet 7620 by: Mark Langford Re: Engine Start...Nope/Fuel Stabilizer? 7622 by: Frank Ross Steerable Nose Wheel 7626 by: norm-ruth Administrivia: To subscribe to the digest, e-mail: To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail: To post to the list, e-mail: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 12:36:32 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: "Richard Parker" Subject: worn corvair pushrods Message-ID: I've been inspecting my corvair that was rebuilt by the previous owner. So far I've found 2 main bearings installed incorrectly and I just recently found 6 push rods have excessive wear (looks like pitting) right where they go through the push rod guide. the ends of the rods look fine. 1 was on one side of the block, The other 5 were on the other side with 1 good one. I figure it might be a good idea to polish or debur the inside of the pushrod guides but I'm wondering if that wear is warning me that something else is going on. weak springs? incorrect installation of the rockers? Any one have any experience with this? Rich Parker Peterborough NH ps anyone who had a link to my website, my ISP crashed their servers and lost my site. I'll rebuild it when I have time. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 18:02:08 To: donreid@erols.com, krnet@mailinglists.org From: "Richard Parker" Subject: Re: worn corvair pushrods Message-ID: FYI, Problem solved. I talked with my resident motor expert at work about my problematic pushrods and he immediately said it was corrosion due to inactivity. The (hardened) push rod is wiped clean by the guide as is rotates however the rest of the rod is coated by oil (or sludge) A long period of inactiviy will allow pitting, which is exactly what the damage looks like. My engine had sat for almost 20 years in a car before it was rebuilt (and then sat for a few more.) He said he has been given an engine that only had 9000 miles on it but sat for years and when he broke it down he said the corrosion was so bad in places he had to replace the jugs. Rich Parker _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 09:01:26 EST To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: Flymaca711689@cs.com Subject: nose gear(steering) Message-ID: <153.43153c5.29291936@cs.com> the performance of the caster deil unit Is great just needs to be beef up mine is filled with epoxy and chopped glass cloth and I welded a brace at the 80 turn. The stock unit will fold up on grass rough type fields I know!!!! first hand. Just remember weight and that your making It more complex more problem solving? mac bb ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 10:44:42 -0500 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: "Philip J. Visconti" Subject: Gear Conversion Message-ID: <20011118.104443.-170315.0.viscan@juno.com> Does anyone have pictures or info, during construction, of converting to Diehl fixed gear ? I've tried Jerry and Dan's web site and all I get is a blank page. I guess I should say "we tried". My son-in-law and a friend in KS also got a blank page. Phil ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 23:32:44 -0500 To: "Philip J. Visconti" ,krnet@mailinglists.org From: "Jerry Mahurin" Subject: Re: KR> Gear Conversion Message-ID: Phil, Sorry if you are getting a blank page on our website...!! Try http://airplanefactory.homestead.com/files/ or http://www.jerrymahurin.com Either of these URLs should work. Contact me off line if you continue to have difficulty. My emai address is jerrymahurin@charter.net. Jerry Mahurin Lugoff, SC On Sun, 18 Nov 2001 10:44:42 -0500 "Philip J. Visconti" wrote: > Does anyone have pictures or info, during construction, > of converting to > Diehl fixed gear ? > > I've tried Jerry and Dan's web site and all I get is a > blank page. I > guess I should say "we tried". My son-in-law and a friend > in KS also got > a blank page. > > Phil > ________________________________________________________________ > GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! > Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! > Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , or > "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: > krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ > . > AOL and Compuserve do NOT pass KRNet email, so use some > other system! > Jerry Mahurin Lugoff, SC ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 21:35:32 -0800 (PST) To: "Philip J. Visconti" , krnet@mailinglists.org From: David Hartz Subject: Re: KR> Gear Conversion Message-ID: <20011119053532.15538.qmail@web14706.mail.yahoo.com> PHILIP WHAT INFO DO YOU NEED?I HAVE JUST FINISHED SWITHING FROM RETRACT TO DIEHL TRI GEAR. DAVE --- "Philip J. Visconti" wrote: > Does anyone have pictures or info, during > construction, of converting to > Diehl fixed gear ? > > I've tried Jerry and Dan's web site and all I get is > a blank page. I > guess I should say "we tried". My son-in-law and a > friend in KS also got > a blank page. > > Phil > ________________________________________________________________ > GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! > Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for > less! > Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , > or "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: > krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: > krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at > http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ . > AOL and Compuserve do NOT pass KRNet email, so use > some other system! > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Find the one for you at Yahoo! Personals http://personals.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 08:59:44 -0700 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: "Ross R. Youngblood" Subject: NewWebpage Experiment Message-ID: <3BF7DAF0.83B99134@home.com> I've gotten some positive feedback on the Flash media bit I put together for KR-net. I need to add a KR-2S in flight, anyone have one of those to recommend. I've got some around I just need to look for the right one. I'm told the current 60 second movie takes 7 minutes to download via 28.8modem. On a cable modem its nearly real time. I will work to see if I can get the download time cut down a bit too. So far no one has taken offense to my soundtrack joke. http://www.krnet.org/KRmaintest2.html -- Regards Ross ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 12:30:58 -0500 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: "Philip J. Visconti" Subject: PROP HUB A-65 Message-ID: <20011118.123059.-341797.0.viscan@juno.com> Took apart a Cont. 65 HP engine and too expensive to rebuild. Parting out good parts. Tapered shaft prop hub, for A-65, complete. Make an offer. (Reasonable, please.) Phil ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 11:45:11 -0600 To: , From: "Pat Driscoll" Subject: Re: KR> New webpage experiment w/music Message-ID: <000c01c17058$c6801400$abdb6843@oemcomputer> Ross, Not bad with a 56K modem but I think the first one was better. Smoother transition between pictures and larger pictures. Time to load was about the same for both. Pat Driscoll ----- Original Message ----- From: Ross R. Youngblood To: Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2001 1:22 AM Subject: KR> New webpage experiment w/music > I decided to control the fade of the images would require moving > from an applet to "shockwave". > So, an improvement over http://www.krnet.org/KRmaintest.html > is http://www.krnet.org/KRmaintest2.html > The music stops after 60 seconds because the free software I use > won't build a soundtrack longer than 60 seconds. > > I think the shockwave file is big about 1.2Mb... so those with modems > let me know what a pain this is to view. I can try changing the images > from .jpg to .bmp and that is supposed to make the shockwave stuff > smaller... but I'm lazy so this is as far as I've gotten. > > It starting to look pretty good. > > Somthing at the end of the soundtrack will tell me if you were > able to hear the music or not. It's temporary. > > -- Ross > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , or "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ . > AOL and Compuserve do NOT pass KRNet email, so use some other system! > ------ http://USFamily.Net/info - Unlimited Internet - From $8.99/mo! ------ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 10:13:39 -0800 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: Greg S Martin Subject: Re: KR> kr2 steering nose Message-ID: <20011118.101340.-892579.0.idrawtobuild@juno.com> I started to put steering on the nose wheel of my Very EZe. I was going to use two small hydraulic pistons. One on the nose wheel and one on the steering wheel in the cabin. I've always heard the steering on the HEAVIES was to the left of the pilot. They just steer the plane with a little wheel. So I'm sure you could find some small hydraulic pistons to allow you to steer the nose wheel. Contact me direct and I'll 'e' you a sketch on my idea. Greg S. Martin, Building Designer 20909 South Street, Suite #3, Tehachapi, CA 93561 661-823-9401, fax 823-9381 idrawtobuild@juno.com On Fri, 16 Nov 2001 18:24:52 +0200 "imraanf" writes: > hi,I am building a Kr 2 and planing to put a steering nose wheel.I > got an idea how it should be,but would like any help from previous > builders who did it.I would like drawings if possible,so that I can > derive the best of all the suggestions.thank you. > > imraan,johannesburg,south Africa > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 00:00:39 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: "Richard Parker" Subject: Re: KR> kr2 steering nose Message-ID: if you are going to use hydraulics you may as well do it like its done on a Buff.(B-52) There is a small wheel in the center of the cockpit that controls all the trucks. The plane can be crabbed 30 degrees to one side and the wheels can be lined up right down the centerline :-) Rich Parker >From: Greg S Martin >To: krnet@mailinglists.org >Subject: Re: KR> kr2 steering nose >Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 10:13:39 -0800 > >I started to put steering on the nose wheel of my Very EZe. I was going >to use two small hydraulic pistons. One on the nose wheel and one on the >steering wheel in the cabin. I've always heard the steering on the >HEAVIES was to the left of the pilot. They just steer the plane with a >little wheel. > >So I'm sure you could find some small hydraulic pistons to allow you to >steer the nose wheel. > >Contact me direct and I'll 'e' you a sketch on my idea. > >Greg S. Martin, Building Designer >20909 South Street, Suite #3, Tehachapi, CA 93561 >661-823-9401, fax 823-9381 >idrawtobuild@juno.com > >On Fri, 16 Nov 2001 18:24:52 +0200 "imraanf" > writes: > > hi,I am building a Kr 2 and planing to put a steering nose wheel.I > > got an idea how it should be,but would like any help from previous > > builders who did it.I would like drawings if possible,so that I can > > derive the best of all the suggestions.thank you. > > > > imraan,johannesburg,south Africa > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , or "reply all" > >To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org >For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > >See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ . >AOL and Compuserve do NOT pass KRNet email, so use some other system! > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 07:40:23 -0800 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: Greg S Martin Subject: Re: KR> kr2 steering nose Message-ID: <20011119.074024.-696979.0.idrawtobuild@juno.com> That sounds incredibility ambitious. Let me know how it turns out for you Rich. I'd be very interested watching your progress. Greg S. Martin, Building Designer 20909 South Street, Suite #3, Tehachapi, CA 93561 661-823-9401, fax 823-9381 idrawtobuild@juno.com On Mon, 19 Nov 2001 00:00:39 "Richard Parker" writes: > if you are going to use hydraulics you may as well do it like its > done on a > Buff.(B-52) There is a small wheel in the center of the cockpit that > > controls all the trucks. The plane can be crabbed 30 degrees to one > side and > the wheels can be lined up right down the centerline > > :-) > > Rich Parker ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 09:51:12 +0000 To: KRNet From: Stuart Deal Subject: Re: KR> kr2 steering nose Message-ID: <3BF8D610.D7E1A22F@sonic.net> Certainly, it would be a simple matter to connect the rudder pedals to the front gear with a pair of rods. Just figure out the full travel of the front wheel and put it in proportion to the full travel of the rudder. Left rudder pushes the right side of the wheel forward, etc. Hydraulics are quite fussy in comparison. Stuart Greg S Martin wrote: > > That sounds incredibility ambitious. Let me know how it turns out for > you Rich. I'd be very interested watching your progress. > > Greg S. Martin, Building Designer > 20909 South Street, Suite #3, Tehachapi, CA 93561 > 661-823-9401, fax 823-9381 > idrawtobuild@juno.com > > On Mon, 19 Nov 2001 00:00:39 "Richard Parker" > writes: > > if you are going to use hydraulics you may as well do it like its > > done on a > > Buff.(B-52) There is a small wheel in the center of the cockpit that > > > > controls all the trucks. The plane can be crabbed 30 degrees to one > > side and > > the wheels can be lined up right down the centerline > > > > :-) > > > > Rich Parker > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , or "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ . > AOL and Compuserve do NOT pass KRNet email, so use some other system! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 13:27:31 -0500 To: idrawtobuild@juno.com (Greg S Martin), krnet@mailinglists.org From: flykrs@netscape.net Subject: RE: Re: KR> kr2 steering nose Message-ID: <08B88FF9.0CB8E026.00062CFF@netscape.net> imraanf, your steerable nw concept will have some fundamental dynamic problems with shimmy dampning. A hydro/mech master and slave system of simplist configuration with the closed loop will have limited power to steer within reasonable pilot imput effort and time. The low pressure and long stroke required to to nw + - 90 degrees is inherently showing the lack of shimmy dampning control the design will have. The alternative of high pressure pump,accumulator, shuttle valves and plumbing to realistically perform the system function you seek is hardly comparable to pure mechanical nw steering simplicity. Now these are my interpretations at best of what design problems you may have to encounter. flyKRS Fri, 16 Nov 2001 18:24:52 +0200 "imraanf" > writes: >> hi,I am building a Kr 2 and planing to put a steering nose wheel.I >> got an idea how it should be,but would like any help from previous >> builders who did it.I would like drawings if possible,so that I can >> derive the best of all the suggestions.thank you. >> >> imraan,johannesburg,south Africa >> > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , or "reply all" > >To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org >For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > >See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ . >AOL and Compuserve do NOT pass KRNet email, so use some other system! > > -- __________________________________________________________________ Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with Shop@Netscape! http://shopnow.netscape.com/ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 21:45:18 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: "Oscar Zuniga" Subject: KR steering nose Message-ID: "imraanf" wrote: >hi,I am building a Kr 2 and planing to put a steering nose wheel. >I got an idea how it should be,but would like any help from >previous builders who did it. I would like drawings if possible And Bill Kirkland seconded: >i'M ALSO LOOKING TO BUILD a steerable nose wheel so I'd like an >"info" on this one. Well, I don't know that I've seen anything on a steerable nosewheel, but there are details for a fully-castoring one in one of the KROnline Newsletters, and maybe you can get some ideas. Go to: http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/kro12_96.html and scroll down a little ways. Oscar Zuniga Medford, Oregon mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 00:36:04 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: "Oscar Zuniga" Subject: KRNet website Message-ID: Well, I guess I'll swim upstream and say something negative about the website here. I think the purpose of the site should be to help builders, pilots, and KR wannabes get information on KRs. To that end, and IMHO, the site should be informative and easy to navigate. It should have what you look for when you're looking around: links to good builders' sites. FAQs. Sources of supply and information. Pictures or how-to's. Archives. It should be fast and friendly, because not everybody has the latest multi-gigabit ultra-blaster computer or internet connection. It should be up-to-date and interesting, but not glitzy or hokey. So... I'm sorry, but I think the fade-ins and fade-outs, music, animations, and big graphics belong somewhere else. Put them on a separate page or link so those who want them (and have the time to load and run them) can wander over and amuse themselves, but keep the important info right up front, clean, and fast. Put stuff logically on pages so somebody just sniffing around doesn't have to wait long to load the home page and then see the other links to move on to whatever they are after. And don't bother with the "under construction" stuff... all sites are pretty much always under construction (or stale, if they aren't). Put things like "coming soon..." there if we really expect to add something and want people to check back, but the "under construction" means nothing. OK; back in my foxhole. Flame away if you want... Oscar Zuniga Medford, Oregon mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 18:36:01 -0700 From: "Ross R. Youngblood" CC: Oscar Zuniga , krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> KRNet website Message-ID: <3BF86201.4F49D17B@home.com> No problem with this... either. I guess I'm just hacking around having fun. Not much excitement in fixing links. Anyone want to take over the website? First $100 takes it. I'm done. -- Ross Oscar Zuniga wrote: > Well, I guess I'll swim upstream and say something negative about the > website here. I think the purpose of the site should be to help builders, > pilots, and KR wannabes get information on KRs. To that end, and IMHO, the > site should be informative and easy to navigate. It should have what you > look for when you're looking around: links to good builders' sites. FAQs. > Sources of supply and information. Pictures or how-to's. Archives. It > should be fast and friendly, because not everybody has the latest > multi-gigabit ultra-blaster computer or internet connection. It should be > up-to-date and interesting, but not glitzy or hokey. > > So... I'm sorry, but I think the fade-ins and fade-outs, music, animations, > and big graphics belong somewhere else. Put them on a separate page or link > so those who want them (and have the time to load and run them) can wander > over and amuse themselves, but keep the important info right up front, > clean, and fast. Put stuff logically on pages so somebody just sniffing > around doesn't have to wait long to load the home page and then see the > other links to move on to whatever they are after. > > And don't bother with the "under construction" stuff... all sites are pretty > much always under construction (or stale, if they aren't). Put things like > "coming soon..." there if we really expect to add something and want people > to check back, but the "under construction" means nothing. > > OK; back in my foxhole. Flame away if you want... > > Oscar Zuniga > Medford, Oregon > mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com > website at http://www.flysquirrel.net > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , or "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ . > AOL and Compuserve do NOT pass KRNet email, so use some other system! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 19:41:15 -0600 To: From: "Mark Langford" Subject: Re: KR> KRNet website Message-ID: <06a701c1709b$477cd650$0100a8c0@cmc3075662a> Ross wrote: > First $100 takes it. I'm done. I'll mail you a check first thing in the morning, unless you want a Visa or Paypal payment right now. Walt Lounsberry's volunteered to do some work, so let's let him give it a shot. Other volunteers are welcome... Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama mailto:langford@hiwaay.net see KR2S N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 19:07:35 -0700 From: "Ross R. Youngblood" CC: Mark Langford , krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> KRNet website Message-ID: <3BF86967.B15F4EEF@home.com> OK, I'll contact icom.com and figure out what it takes to transfer ownership of the domain name, and the web hosting stuff. We are paid up for the remainder of the year I think. Send me your snail mail and telephone info and I will fill out what online stuff I can to transfer all the keys. -- Ross Mark Langford wrote: > Ross wrote: > > > First $100 takes it. I'm done. > > I'll mail you a check first thing in the morning, unless you want a Visa or > Paypal payment right now. Walt Lounsberry's volunteered to do some work, so > let's let him give it a shot. Other volunteers are welcome... > > Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama > mailto:langford@hiwaay.net > see KR2S N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , or "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ . > AOL and Compuserve do NOT pass KRNet email, so use some other system! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 20:33:16 -0600 To: Oscar Zuniga , krnet@mailinglists.org From: Peg and Mike Meyer Subject: Re: KR> KRNet website Message-id: <002301c170a2$8bb21040$0beffea9@o0c8u6> Wow. I dunno about anyone else, but always I thought the KR website was an outstanding reference library. Moreover, I think it is easy to use and accessible. Am I missing something here? More importantly, I think you're way out of line unloading both barrels at someone who was put so much effort forth in keeping this thing going. I think it's a hellava' slap in the face, and totally uncalled for. I appreciate all the effort Ross has given to the website as I have found it a terrific resource. Mike Meyer ----- Original Message ----- From: "Oscar Zuniga" To: Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2001 6:36 PM Subject: KR> KRNet website > Well, I guess I'll swim upstream and say something negative about the > website here. I think the purpose of the site should be to help builders, > pilots, and KR wannabes get information on KRs. To that end, and IMHO, the > site should be informative and easy to navigate. It should have what you > look for when you're looking around: links to good builders' sites. FAQs. > Sources of supply and information. Pictures or how-to's. Archives. It > should be fast and friendly, because not everybody has the latest > multi-gigabit ultra-blaster computer or internet connection. It should be > up-to-date and interesting, but not glitzy or hokey. > > So... I'm sorry, but I think the fade-ins and fade-outs, music, animations, > and big graphics belong somewhere else. Put them on a separate page or link > so those who want them (and have the time to load and run them) can wander > over and amuse themselves, but keep the important info right up front, > clean, and fast. Put stuff logically on pages so somebody just sniffing > around doesn't have to wait long to load the home page and then see the > other links to move on to whatever they are after. > > And don't bother with the "under construction" stuff... all sites are pretty > much always under construction (or stale, if they aren't). Put things like > "coming soon..." there if we really expect to add something and want people > to check back, but the "under construction" means nothing. > > OK; back in my foxhole. Flame away if you want... > > Oscar Zuniga > Medford, Oregon > mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com > website at http://www.flysquirrel.net > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , or "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ . > AOL and Compuserve do NOT pass KRNet email, so use some other system! > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 20:09:21 -0500 To: "w.g. kirkland" From: Chris Gardiner Cc: krnet Subject: Re: KR> new Kr flying Message-ID: <3BF85BC1.D21C240B@netcom.ca> Thanks for kudos , Bill. I flew it again yesterday . This was only my second flight in the "K" bird. What can I say ? . Everyone that commented on my last terror flight was right This time I had no problems handling the sensitivity issue as I knew what to expect . It was a fabulous experience to cruise around for an hour in a clear blue sky ( CAVU) and enjoy the fruit of my 4 years of hard work. Truly a great flying airplane ( once you get used to it) . Responsive and really fun to fly ,yet stable . I have never flown a Spitfire but I'm sure this must be pretty close. Cruise is still around 140 mph max. with 1000fpm climb after takeoff on a cool ( 9deg C) day.( 2180 VW GPAC with Sterba 54x48p prop) Keep building guys , it's worth it . Mark , this has got to be the year you fly that bird.! Cheers Chris Gardiner C-GKRZ KR2S ( happy camper) "w.g. kirkland" wrote: > > I was down to Oshawa to see Chris Gardiners new Kr, CFKRZ. If he shows up at the next fly in hang on t your prizes or he will steal them. A real nice piece of work Chris. > W.G.(Bill) KIRKLAND > kirkland@vianet.on.ca ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 20:29:16 EST To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: Flymaca711689@cs.com Subject: kr gear convesion Message-ID: <152.43670f4.2929ba6c@cs.com> --part1_152.43670f4.2929ba6c_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Phil mark Jones site has good photos of stub wing gear and pulley arrangement. mac --part1_152.43670f4.2929ba6c_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 19:06:04 -0700 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: "Ross R. Youngblood" Subject: Engine Start...Nope Message-ID: <3BF8690C.D183E9D7@home.com> Day 2 of the Ellison/VW engine start trials. On the working theory that fuel pressure was the issue, I connected the R wing tank, and filled it with 5 gal of fuel. The good news is the new sending unit gasket is not seeping fuel. Many thanks to the guy from Mitchell corp (I think) who sent me replacement gaskets a while back. The R Fuel pump is delivering fuel with no problem, however I suspect a slight air leak in the suction side of the line someplace as the pump never quite stops clicking. I would expect it to reach a point where it's happy with the upstream pressure and stop pumping when the fuel selector is in the OFF or Center position. (R and L tanks each feed from independant fuel pumps). The engine sputtered and almost kept going a couple of times, but never sustaned combustion. The best operation seems to occur at about 3/4 throttle open. Mixture full rich. I've checked the Ellison manual again, and with respect to fuel inlet pressure they recommend only a fuel pump with 1/2 to 3 psi output pressure. So I'm assuming anything from 1/2 to 3 psi is what we are looking for. There are no restrictionss of fuel to the inlet of the carb. Drained lots of fuel into a fuel can to validate this. Although the engine ran previously, I'm beginning to think I need to go back and re-validate everything from compression on up soon (incl timing). Prior to doing this I will drop back to the proceedure that got me engine starts a couple of years ago. Before I had the carb heat box on the Ellison, I took a chance and blew a small amount of fuel directly into the venturi of the EFS-2. It would always start right up, at the time I decided that I would probably need to re-do my primer routing to do the same by changing from two fittings at the #2 & #4 cylinder to one fitting just below the carb mounting flange, so that pushing some primer fuel would be similar to blowing fuel into the venturi. There are a couple of reasons I haven't done this already. 1) The carb heat assembly is mounted on the plane, and is a hassle to remove. 2) A local airport guy had a can of starting fluid and we played with this, with positive, but not complete results. I'm going to yank off the carb heat assy, in the hopes that spraying starting fluid, is not exactly the same as blowing fuel directly into the venturi. I figure I at least need to try what worked last time before starting to back up, remove the prop and re-time the engine. I also need to dig up my Compu-Fire documentation. The 009 rotor replacement has a small dot in one position. I want to double check the orientation. It looks like it doesn't matter which way it's installed but yesterday I noticed that the dot didn't appear aligned with the notch in the shaft, so I re-positioned it, and things improved significantly on Saturday. I'm also going 'net surfing for Bob Hoover's VW stuff, (not the pilot, but the VW Hoover) his VW site went down for a while, but I thought I had heard it was back up. I just want to be careful not to back track too far on this starting problem over some type of Homer Simpson "DOH" issue I have made. -- Regards Ross ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 22:12:37 -0500 To: , From: "Ronnie King" Subject: Re: KR> Engine Start...Nope Message-ID: <000d01c170a8$0cc46a20$c417f5cd@oemcomputer> If it's been a few years since the engine ran, I'd check the carb. If the fuel evaporated from the carb over time, it could have plugged some passages with varnish. The fact you have the idle mixture full rich, and use 3/4 throttle kinda supports this. I'm not an aviation mechanic, just a plain old car Tech. ---- Ronnie King K4RLK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ross R. Youngblood" To: Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2001 9:06 PM Subject: KR> Engine Start...Nope > Day 2 of the Ellison/VW engine start trials. > > On the working theory that fuel pressure was the issue, > I connected the R wing tank, and filled it with 5 gal of fuel. > The good news is the new sending unit gasket is not seeping > fuel. Many thanks to the guy from Mitchell corp (I think) who sent > me replacement gaskets a while back. > The R Fuel pump is delivering fuel with no problem, however I > suspect a slight air leak in the suction side of the line someplace > as the pump never quite stops clicking. I would expect it to > reach a point where it's happy with the upstream pressure and > stop pumping when the fuel selector is in the OFF or Center > position. (R and L tanks each feed from independant fuel pumps). > The engine sputtered and almost kept going a couple of times, > but never sustaned combustion. The best operation seems to > occur at about 3/4 throttle open. Mixture full rich. > > I've checked the Ellison manual again, and with respect to > fuel inlet pressure they recommend only a fuel pump with > 1/2 to 3 psi output pressure. So I'm assuming anything from > 1/2 to 3 psi is what we are looking for. > > There are no restrictionss of fuel to the inlet of the carb. > Drained lots of fuel into a fuel can to validate this. > > Although the engine ran previously, I'm beginning to think > I need to go back and re-validate everything from compression > on up soon (incl timing). Prior to doing this I will drop back to > the proceedure that got me engine starts a couple of years ago. > > Before I had the carb heat box on the Ellison, I took a chance > and blew a small amount of fuel directly into the venturi of the > EFS-2. It would always start right up, at the time I decided that > I would probably need to re-do my primer routing to do the same > by changing from two fittings at the #2 & #4 cylinder to one fitting > just below the carb mounting flange, so that pushing some primer > fuel would be similar to blowing fuel into the venturi. > > There are a couple of reasons I haven't done this already. > 1) The carb heat assembly is mounted on the plane, and is a hassle > to remove. > 2) A local airport guy had a can of starting fluid and we played with > this, with positive, but not complete results. > > I'm going to yank off the carb heat assy, in the hopes that spraying > starting fluid, is not exactly the same as blowing fuel directly into > the > venturi. I figure I at least need to try what worked last time before > starting to back up, remove the prop and re-time the engine. > > I also need to dig up my Compu-Fire documentation. The 009 rotor > replacement has a small dot in one position. I want to double check > the orientation. It looks like it doesn't matter which way it's > installed > but yesterday I noticed that the dot didn't appear aligned with the > notch in the shaft, so I re-positioned it, and things improved > significantly > on Saturday. > > I'm also going 'net surfing for Bob Hoover's VW stuff, (not the > pilot, but > the VW Hoover) his VW site went down for a while, but I thought I had > heard it was back up. I just want to be careful not to back track too > far on this starting problem over some type of Homer Simpson "DOH" > issue I have made. > > -- Regards > Ross > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- - > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , or "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ . > AOL and Compuserve do NOT pass KRNet email, so use some other system! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 20:21:19 -0700 From: "Ross R. Youngblood" CC: Ronnie King , krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> Engine Start...Nope Message-ID: <3BF87AAF.DC97431F@home.com> Ron, Say... that was somthing my dad and I discussed over the phone. If it was an auto carb, I'd disassemble it, and soak it in carb cleaner, then cuss and swear trying to re-assemble it. Since it is an Ellison I'm pondering the option of shipping it up to them for a check out. I think I'll give Ellison a call tomorrow and see what they recommend. Thanks for the tip. -- Ross Ronnie King wrote: > If it's been a few years since the engine ran, I'd check the carb. If > the fuel evaporated from the carb over time, it could have plugged > some passages with varnish. The fact you have the idle mixture full > rich, and use 3/4 throttle kinda supports this. > > I'm not an aviation mechanic, just a plain old car Tech. > > ---- > Ronnie King > K4RLK > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ross R. Youngblood" > To: > Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2001 9:06 PM > Subject: KR> Engine Start...Nope > > > Day 2 of the Ellison/VW engine start trials. > > > > On the working theory that fuel pressure was the issue, > > I connected the R wing tank, and filled it with 5 gal of fuel. > > The good news is the new sending unit gasket is not seeping > > fuel. Many thanks to the guy from Mitchell corp (I think) who sent > > me replacement gaskets a while back. > > The R Fuel pump is delivering fuel with no problem, however I > > suspect a slight air leak in the suction side of the line someplace > > as the pump never quite stops clicking. I would expect it to > > reach a point where it's happy with the upstream pressure and > > stop pumping when the fuel selector is in the OFF or Center > > position. (R and L tanks each feed from independant fuel pumps). > > The engine sputtered and almost kept going a couple of times, > > but never sustaned combustion. The best operation seems to > > occur at about 3/4 throttle open. Mixture full rich. > > > > I've checked the Ellison manual again, and with respect to > > fuel inlet pressure they recommend only a fuel pump with > > 1/2 to 3 psi output pressure. So I'm assuming anything from > > 1/2 to 3 psi is what we are looking for. > > > > There are no restrictionss of fuel to the inlet of the carb. > > Drained lots of fuel into a fuel can to validate this. > > > > Although the engine ran previously, I'm beginning to think > > I need to go back and re-validate everything from compression > > on up soon (incl timing). Prior to doing this I will drop back to > > the proceedure that got me engine starts a couple of years ago. > > > > Before I had the carb heat box on the Ellison, I took a chance > > and blew a small amount of fuel directly into the venturi of the > > EFS-2. It would always start right up, at the time I decided that > > I would probably need to re-do my primer routing to do the same > > by changing from two fittings at the #2 & #4 cylinder to one fitting > > just below the carb mounting flange, so that pushing some primer > > fuel would be similar to blowing fuel into the venturi. > > > > There are a couple of reasons I haven't done this already. > > 1) The carb heat assembly is mounted on the plane, and is a hassle > > to remove. > > 2) A local airport guy had a can of starting fluid and we played > with > > this, with positive, but not complete results. > > > > I'm going to yank off the carb heat assy, in the hopes that > spraying > > starting fluid, is not exactly the same as blowing fuel directly > into > > the > > venturi. I figure I at least need to try what worked last time > before > > starting to back up, remove the prop and re-time the engine. > > > > I also need to dig up my Compu-Fire documentation. The 009 rotor > > replacement has a small dot in one position. I want to double check > > the orientation. It looks like it doesn't matter which way it's > > installed > > but yesterday I noticed that the dot didn't appear aligned with the > > notch in the shaft, so I re-positioned it, and things improved > > significantly > > on Saturday. > > > > I'm also going 'net surfing for Bob Hoover's VW stuff, (not the > > pilot, but > > the VW Hoover) his VW site went down for a while, but I thought I > had > > heard it was back up. I just want to be careful not to back track > too > > far on this starting problem over some type of Homer Simpson "DOH" > > issue I have made. > > > > -- Regards > > Ross > > > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > - > > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , or "reply all" > > > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ . > > AOL and Compuserve do NOT pass KRNet email, so use some other > system! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 12:20:03 -0000 To: From: "macwood" Cc: Subject: Re: KR> Engine Start...Nope Message-ID: <003201c170f6$4a4cd6e0$1a5a3c3e@tinypc> Hi Ross, I'm having the same problem as you . I went through the same thing 2 years ago and resolved it, after advice from the carb makers, by stripping the carb ,cleaning and blasting through all the ports /drillings with a high pressure hose. Put it back on and it started and ran like a dream. Now after sitting around for 2 years I'm having the same symptoms and I noticed that the residual fuel left a brown film which scrapes off into a powder so I reckon there's a blockage somewhere. -Incidentally I'm fitting a primer system but I can't see where the nipple goes -I have a Revmaster . Any polite suggestions?! Regards Mac-W ---- Original Message ----- From: Ross R. Youngblood Cc: Ronnie King ; Sent: Monday, November 19, 2001 3:21 AM Subject: Re: KR> Engine Start...Nope > Ron, > Say... that was somthing my dad and I discussed over the phone. > If it was an auto carb, I'd disassemble it, and soak it in carb cleaner, > then cuss and swear trying to re-assemble it. Since it is an Ellison > I'm pondering the option of shipping it up to them for a check out. > I think I'll give Ellison a call tomorrow and see what they recommend. > Thanks for the tip. > -- Ross > > Ronnie King wrote: > > > If it's been a few years since the engine ran, I'd check the carb. If > > the fuel evaporated from the carb over time, it could have plugged > > some passages with varnish. The fact you have the idle mixture full > > rich, and use 3/4 throttle kinda supports this. > > > > I'm not an aviation mechanic, just a plain old car Tech. > > > > ---- > > Ronnie King > > K4RLK > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Ross R. Youngblood" > > To: > > Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2001 9:06 PM > > Subject: KR> Engine Start...Nope > > > > > Day 2 of the Ellison/VW engine start trials. > > > > > > On the working theory that fuel pressure was the issue, > > > I connected the R wing tank, and filled it with 5 gal of fuel. > > > The good news is the new sending unit gasket is not seeping > > > fuel. Many thanks to the guy from Mitchell corp (I think) who sent > > > me replacement gaskets a while back. > > > The R Fuel pump is delivering fuel with no problem, however I > > > suspect a slight air leak in the suction side of the line someplace > > > as the pump never quite stops clicking. I would expect it to > > > reach a point where it's happy with the upstream pressure and > > > stop pumping when the fuel selector is in the OFF or Center > > > position. (R and L tanks each feed from independant fuel pumps). > > > The engine sputtered and almost kept going a couple of times, > > > but never sustaned combustion. The best operation seems to > > > occur at about 3/4 throttle open. Mixture full rich. > > > > > > I've checked the Ellison manual again, and with respect to > > > fuel inlet pressure they recommend only a fuel pump with > > > 1/2 to 3 psi output pressure. So I'm assuming anything from > > > 1/2 to 3 psi is what we are looking for. > > > > > > There are no restrictionss of fuel to the inlet of the carb. > > > Drained lots of fuel into a fuel can to validate this. > > > > > > Although the engine ran previously, I'm beginning to think > > > I need to go back and re-validate everything from compression > > > on up soon (incl timing). Prior to doing this I will drop back to > > > the proceedure that got me engine starts a couple of years ago. > > > > > > Before I had the carb heat box on the Ellison, I took a chance > > > and blew a small amount of fuel directly into the venturi of the > > > EFS-2. It would always start right up, at the time I decided that > > > I would probably need to re-do my primer routing to do the same > > > by changing from two fittings at the #2 & #4 cylinder to one fitting > > > just below the carb mounting flange, so that pushing some primer > > > fuel would be similar to blowing fuel into the venturi. > > > > > > There are a couple of reasons I haven't done this already. > > > 1) The carb heat assembly is mounted on the plane, and is a hassle > > > to remove. > > > 2) A local airport guy had a can of starting fluid and we played > > with > > > this, with positive, but not complete results. > > > > > > I'm going to yank off the carb heat assy, in the hopes that > > spraying > > > starting fluid, is not exactly the same as blowing fuel directly > > into > > > the > > > venturi. I figure I at least need to try what worked last time > > before > > > starting to back up, remove the prop and re-time the engine. > > > > > > I also need to dig up my Compu-Fire documentation. The 009 rotor > > > replacement has a small dot in one position. I want to double check > > > the orientation. It looks like it doesn't matter which way it's > > > installed > > > but yesterday I noticed that the dot didn't appear aligned with the > > > notch in the shaft, so I re-positioned it, and things improved > > > significantly > > > on Saturday. > > > > > > I'm also going 'net surfing for Bob Hoover's VW stuff, (not the > > > pilot, but > > > the VW Hoover) his VW site went down for a while, but I thought I > > had > > > heard it was back up. I just want to be careful not to back track > > too > > > far on this starting problem over some type of Homer Simpson "DOH" > > > issue I have made. > > > > > > -- Regards > > > Ross > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > - > > > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , or "reply all" > > > > > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > > > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > > > > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ . > > > AOL and Compuserve do NOT pass KRNet email, so use some other > > system! > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , or "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ . > AOL and Compuserve do NOT pass KRNet email, so use some other system! > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 19:47:39 -0700 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: Ross Youngblood Subject: Transfer of www.krnet.org domain & website keys Message-Id: <20011119024157.IFOC6450.femail44.sdc1.sfba.home.com@cx239334-a> Mark Langford has volunterred to pick up the KRnet banner and wave it. I've told him to hold off on the $100, as there may be some transfer costs associated with the move and frankly, with my bank being in Texas and my living in Az, it's kinda of a hassle for me to mail checks. (Work is direct deposit, and ATMS give me my money). This move involves two items... the hosting of our humble krnet.org domain, www.krnet.org, which is paid up until July 2002 and run by a nifty outfit called icom.com www.icom.com. And, the ownership of the www.krnet.org domainname itself. We own www.krnet.org until Oct 2002, then it's about $50 or so a year to keep hanging onto it. I don't fault Oscar for his comments, he is correct. I was reluctant to relinquish control of the passwords and manage folks working on the net due to a lack of time and energy, in the end the site was not quite what I would have liked either. Mark has shown through the work on both his airplane and his website that he is a stickler for details and does terrific work. I think we will be in good hands. -- Regards Ross Ross Youngblood rossy65@home.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 08:55:34 -0600 To: From: "Mark Langford" Subject: KRNet Message-ID: <001a01c1710a$3ed6f110$5f0ca58c@mlangford> KRNetHeads, I've taken a preliminary stab at revamping KRNet.org. I woke up at 4AM this morning wondering what to do with it, and have gone from considering just pointing it to my KR2S Construction website (but that sounds too much like a power-grabbing coupe) to thinking that all we really need here is something that deals solely with KRNet, ie. how to subscribe, where to find the archives, and who the members are while providing links to their sites. While it's great to think that legions of web experts would lend a hand a develop a great site that we could all be proud of (and could still be accessed with a modem), past experience tells me that it probably ain't gonna happen. So for now, I've got a start on it, at http://www.krnet.org/index.html . This is almost all I think is really needed (although I still need to add a link to the FAQs and a few other necessities). I started adding more stuff like KRNewsletter link, parts suppliers, etc, and it started looking a whole lot my web page again. Now if somebody wants to take ownership of that supplier "module" and actually keep it current, then you're welcome to it. The same goes for builder's links in the "yearbook". I'm even beginning to think that all of this stuff could go on ONE page, so there's no jumping around and getting lost. Maybe I'm just perpetually impatient, but I like to visit a page, immediately see what's there and absorb it as quickly as possible, and determine which link I should ride out of town on. Anyway, I realize that some of you suspect that I'm on an ego trip and trying to grab all the KRNet "power", but it just ain't so. I just want to provide a way for people to quickly get to as much CURRENT KR information as possible, without running around in circles or into dead end links. Come to think of it, that's what I already have at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/ ! Give me until Friday to get this into shape, and then y'all are welcome to comment on it publicly. Private comments are welcome right now, but depending on how many I get, I may not reply to them all. After all, I might just build half of a carbon fiber cowling tonight, having made the molds over the weekend. I also owe somebody some dimensions on a Corvair/KR2S engine mount, which I was able to retrieve from inside my cowling plug last night... Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL mailto:langford@hiwaay.net see KR2S project at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 08:53:47 -0800 (PST) To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: Frank Ross Subject: Re: KR> Engine Start...Nope/Fuel Stabilizer? Message-ID: <20011119165347.82270.qmail@web14001.mail.yahoo.com> I had similar problems with a motorcycle that sat for long periods without running. It helped a lot to put "Fuel Stabilizer" in the fuel. Don't know about using that for aircraft fuels or engines in aircraft. Anybody have comments on that? --- macwood wrote: > Hi Ross, I'm having the same problem as you after sitting ... 2 years I'm > having the same symptoms > Regards Mac-W ===== Frank Ross, San Antonio, TX, __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Find the one for you at Yahoo! Personals http://personals.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 13:39:14 -0600 To: From: "norm-ruth" Subject: Steerable Nose Wheel Message-ID: <003e01c17131$e2250e20$e0ced03f@d5b8c8> ------=_NextPart_000_003B_01C170FF.944E10C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I believe the Teenie Two had a steerable nose wheel. This was single = place all metal, VW powered. They have a Web Page Norm Seel ------=_NextPart_000_003B_01C170FF.944E10C0-- ------------------------------ End of krnet Digest ***********************************