From: To: Subject: krnet Digest 30 Nov 2001 22:38:44 -0000 Issue 332 Date: Friday, November 30, 2001 2:39 PM krnet Digest 30 Nov 2001 22:38:44 -0000 Issue 332 Topics (messages 7817 through 7846): control wheel 7817 by: larry flesner 7819 by: Higdon, Bill 7821 by: Jerry Mahurin 7823 by: larry flesner 7824 by: larry flesner Re: WARNING - Rudder Hinges 7818 by: Mark Langford 7820 by: RONALD.FREIBERGER Raleigh NC. 7822 by: ROBERT COOPER Fuel Tanks 7825 by: dawnpatrol.onemain.com 7826 by: Mark Langford 7827 by: Higdon, Bill 7828 by: Oscar Zuniga 7829 by: Tracy & Carol O'Brien 7830 by: RONALD.FREIBERGER 7831 by: Oscar Zuniga 7832 by: Shane Daly 7833 by: RONALD.FREIBERGER 7834 by: Shane Daly 7845 by: w.g. kirkland Corvair/KR2S cowling update 7835 by: Mark Langford 7837 by: Oscar Zuniga 7838 by: flykr2s.execpc.com Bob Hoover's website.... 7836 by: Jerry Mahurin stick 7839 by: Aripo Lavon Loynd virus 7840 by: RONALD.FREIBERGER 7841 by: Tracy & Carol O'Brien 7842 by: Philip J. Visconti VIRUS DANGER 7843 by: Philip J. Visconti 7844 by: flykr2s.execpc.com 7846 by: gleone Administrivia: To subscribe to the digest, e-mail: To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail: To post to the list, e-mail: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 06:05:47 -0600 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: larry flesner Subject: control wheel Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20011129060547.0087ad00@pop3.norton.antivirus> > >KR> stick location >(stick vs. wheel) >>That's like putting training wheels on a sport plane.. aka nose gear. >>BLASPHEMY is too Kind. >>Ron Freiberger... >+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++= Ron, One of the greatest fighters of WWII had a control wheel AND A NOSE WHEEL !!!!!!!!!! No one thought they were "wimpy" :) :) !! Larry Flesner ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 09:20:41 -0600 To: "'krnet@mailinglists.org'" From: "Higdon, Bill" Subject: RE: KR> control wheel Message-ID: <0BB09622E5DDD311992F0000D1ECDA7005CDF132@pkcexv020.sprintspectrum.com> Would that be the P-38 or the P-61 The Big Mudder Bill Higdon -----Original Message----- From: larry flesner [mailto:flesner@midwest.net] Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 4:06 AM To: krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: KR> control wheel > >KR> stick location >(stick vs. wheel) >>That's like putting training wheels on a sport plane.. aka nose gear. >>BLASPHEMY is too Kind. >>Ron Freiberger... >+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++= Ron, One of the greatest fighters of WWII had a control wheel AND A NOSE WHEEL !!!!!!!!!! No one thought they were "wimpy" :) :) !! Larry Flesner --------------------------------------------------------------------- To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , or "reply all" To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ . AOL and Compuserve do NOT pass KRNet email, so use some other system! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 12:45:29 -0500 To: "Higdon, Bill" , "'krnet@mailinglists.org'" From: "Jerry Mahurin" Subject: Re: KR> control wheel Message-ID: Or it could be the P-39 'cobra series.... But I still don't care for 'training wheels'. Personal prejudice I guess... Jerry Mahurin Lugoff, SC On Thu, 29 Nov 2001 09:20:41 -0600 "Higdon, Bill" wrote: > Would that be the P-38 or the P-61 The Big Mudder > Bill Higdon > > -----Original Message----- > From: larry flesner [mailto:flesner@midwest.net] > Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 4:06 AM > To: krnet@mailinglists.org > Subject: KR> control wheel > > > > > >KR> stick location > >(stick vs. wheel) > >>That's like putting training wheels on a sport plane.. > aka nose gear. > >>BLASPHEMY is too Kind. > >>Ron Freiberger... > >+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++= > > Ron, > > One of the greatest fighters of WWII had a control wheel > AND > A NOSE WHEEL !!!!!!!!!! No one thought they were "wimpy" > :) :) !! > > Larry Flesner > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , or > "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: > krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ > . > AOL and Compuserve do NOT pass KRNet email, so use some > other system! > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , or > "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: > krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ > . > AOL and Compuserve do NOT pass KRNet email, so use some > other system! > Jerry Mahurin Lugoff, SC ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 16:02:56 -0600 To: "'krnet@mailinglists.org'" From: larry flesner Subject: RE: KR> control wheel Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20011129160256.0087abd0@pop3.norton.antivirus> At 09:20 AM 11/29/01 -0600, Higdon, Bill wrote: >Would that be the P-38 or the P-61 The Big Mudder >Bill Higdon >==============++++++++++++++++=================++++++++++++++++++++ That would be the P-38. Don't know about the P-61. Larry Flesner >>>KR> stick location >>(stick vs. wheel) >>>That's like putting training wheels on a sport plane.. aka nose gear. >>>BLASPHEMY is too Kind. >>>Ron Freiberger... >>+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++= > >Ron, > >One of the greatest fighters of WWII had a control wheel AND >A NOSE WHEEL !!!!!!!!!! No one thought they were "wimpy" :) :) !! > >Larry Flesner > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , or "reply all" > >To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org >For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > >See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ . >AOL and Compuserve do NOT pass KRNet email, so use some other system! > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , or "reply all" > >To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org >For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > >See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ . >AOL and Compuserve do NOT pass KRNet email, so use some other system! > > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 16:09:03 -0600 To: "Jerry Mahurin" , "Higdon, Bill" , "'krnet@mailinglists.org'" From: larry flesner Subject: Re: KR> control wheel Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20011129160903.0087be50@pop3.norton.antivirus> >Or it could be the P-39 'cobra series.... >But I still don't care for 'training wheels'. Personal >prejudice I guess... > >Jerry Mahurin >++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++= I did see the KR2 with the throw-over wheel at the 1990 Gathering at Rough River, Ky. Wasn't too impressed. It took up a lot of space but it was an interesting setup. I guess that is the one that was refered to in an earlier post. Also at that Gathering was a KR that had been lengthened and over all enlarged with a $10,000 panel and hugh tanks. They were going to try for some distance records. Never heard of it again. They were using a Lycombing engine of some size. Larry Flesner ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 06:58:44 -0600 To: From: "Mark Langford" Subject: Re: KR> WARNING - Rudder Hinges Message-ID: <003001c178d5$94f5d2f0$5f0ca58c@mlangford> Serge VIDAL wrote: >The rudder had vertical and lateral play that was excessive. It was in the region of 1 mm each way. Enough to make the rudder wobbly.< Only 1mm? I have a habit of checking these at every Gathering, starting with the first one I went to in Covington TN. I've seen several with an eighth of an inch of play in them! I've seen a few older KRs with an extra hinge scabbed onto the top and bottom of the rudder or elevator to try to take up some of the slack. The aluminum in direct contact with steel bolts isn't generally considered to be a "good" design practice . That's why I built mine with 5 hinges rather than 3 (which Jeannette later told me the Aussie government was also requiring) and using o*lite bushings (see http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/koilite.html ) which you should be able to retrofit and save your old hinges. The directions on that web page sound a little painful, but the reality is that I "pressed" them in place with a pair of pliers after drilling and reaming the hole. If you use a long 5/16" drill bit, you should be able to drill out the ones that are fastened to the stab, but the ones on the surfaces you might have to remove to have access. But for new construction, Dr. Dean's hinges are the only way to go (see http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/dean_hinge/ ). If I were going to tear one apart, this is how I'd put it back together... Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL mailto:langford@hiwaay.net see KR2S project at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 10:48:14 -0500 To: "Daniel Heath" , "Serge VIDAL" , From: "RONALD.FREIBERGER" Subject: RE: KR> WARNING - Rudder Hinges Message-ID: The rule is that when you cover up things you ought to check on pre-flight, you miss 'em. Ron Freiberger... mailto:ron.martha@mindspring.com -----Original Message----- From: Daniel Heath [mailto:DanRH@att.net] Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 4:50 AM To: Serge VIDAL; krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> WARNING - Rudder Hinges Serge, Thanks for the information. What about cutting out a real neat hole where the hinge bolt goes, both at the top and bottom and leaving it open for regular inspection of not only the hinge, but also the bolt, nut and cotter pin. What rule is there that every little gap has to be closed up? Daniel R. Heath WWW.EAA242.ORG www.JerryMahurin.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Serge VIDAL" To: Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 12:58 AM Subject: KR> WARNING - Rudder Hinges My KR got its annual inspection yesterday. The said inspection was performed by a very serious guy, who checked everything. He snagged many trifles, but also and one serious problem that I have to warn you about. The rudder had vertical and lateral play that was excessive. It was in the region of 1 mm each way. Enough to make the rudder wobbly. To solve the problem, I had to cut open the rudder skin, and find the cause. The bottom part of the upper hinge (on the fin side) had a hole in excess of 5.5mm in diameter, instead of less than 5mm for the other holes. This was enough to cause the lateral play. The vertical play came from bending of that same part to the bottom. That KR has flown 300 hours, and I suspect that this is wear, since the hole is slightly oval. Both plays are probably linked, one helping the oher to develop. To solve the problem, I have to re-drill the hole, and make a tiny inset. LESSON 1: If the tail surfaces hinges are not perfectly adjusted, they can wear fairly quickly LESSON 2: Once the surfaces are glazed, it is a major pain to remove the pins. It might be a good idea to leave the skin at the top and the bottom of the bolts, and just cover the hole with Vinyl tape (or with a thin fiberglass layer, reinforced with Vinyl tape?). This would allow inspection and removability. That's what I intend to do. Serge VIDAL KR2 ZS-WEC Johannesburg, South Africa --------------------------------------------------------------------- To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , or "reply all" To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ . AOL and Compuserve do NOT pass KRNet email, so use some other system! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 16:22:29 -0500 To: "krnet_1" From: "ROBERT COOPER" Subject: Raleigh NC. Message-ID: ------=_NextPart_001_0004_01C178F2.0A651520 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I was wondering if the owner of a KR-2 or 2s located at Triple W airpor= t near Raleigh NC. is on the net. If so, could I pay a visit this weekend= ? I'm building my KR with training wheels because of my range of motion p= roblems. I think it will be easier to enter and exit and will have better= visability while taxiying if it is sitting in a more level configuration= . I do have some tail dradder time and am not afraid of them but the tri = gear config fits my situation better. =20 As for stick position, I have flown numerous hours in a cobra helicopte= r with side stick in front seat and center stick in the back seat. I also= have many hours in production aircraft with a wheel. I prefer the center= stick. If you build a side stick I would recommend an arm rest. I would = not recommend a wheel for a KR, but its your airplane, build what you wan= t. Speaking of training wheels, when flying Army Cobras (AH-1G & AH-1S) an= d practicing simulated hydraulic failure, we ran it on the runway at 50 k= nots. That is with narrow skids, and high CG. That is when I wish I had t= raining wheels. But doing maneuvers such as that, and touch down autorota= tions and simulated anti-torque failures was a blast, the most fun I have= ever had flying. Thank you tax payers. =20 As for the dangers of flying, the best bet is to fly often to maintain = your skills and ocassionally fly with a CFI to have your skills evaluated= , even if the CFI has less flying time than you. My mother onced said to = me "Jack, you are really tempting the Lord, flying and riding motorcycles= ." My reply was "No Mon, Just trusting him." Keep building, keep flying, Have fun. Life is short. And if you should di= e in an aircraft accident, they will say, - He died doing what he loved t= o do. (but you will still be dead) 4400+ hours and still learning about flying. Jack Cooper mailto:kr2cooper@msn.com http://www.geocities.com/kr2cooper/ Fayetteville, NC. ------=_NextPart_001_0004_01C178F2.0A651520-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 18:16:50 -0600 To: From: dawnpatrol@onemain.com Subject: Fuel Tanks Message-ID: <002501c17934$53330f40$6411f8d1@matandcat> ------=_NextPart_000_0022_01C17902.040C6060 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm putting fuel tanks in my wings. can somone tell me what type of = resin I should use that would be the most compatable with fuel. I just = want to make sure I don"t have any leaks. = MikeT ------=_NextPart_000_0022_01C17902.040C6060-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 18:38:21 -0600 To: From: "Mark Langford" Subject: Re: KR> Fuel Tanks Message-ID: <001a01c17937$505f2760$7600a8c0@athlon600> Mike T wrote: >>I'm putting fuel tanks in my wings. can somone tell me what type of resin I should use that would be the most compatable with fuel. I just want to make sure I don"t have any leaks.<< Vinylester, hands down. It stinks, it's difficult to work with (because it cures almost instantly on your warm hands), but it's reputed to be THE most fuel resistant of the bunch. There is an upside though. Since it's catalyzed it can cure at low temperatures. Some people love it, I hate it, but it's what you need to make fuel tanks out of, if you're not using aluminum. Aircraft Spruce sells it, but last time I checked, Wicks didn't, unfortunately. AS&S took MONTHs to actually deliver it, however... Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama mailto:langford@hiwaay.net see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 18:41:37 -0600 To: "'krnet@mailinglists.org'" From: "Higdon, Bill" Subject: RE: KR> Fuel Tanks Message-ID: <0BB09622E5DDD311992F0000D1ECDA7005CDF136@pkcexv020.sprintspectrum.com> Mark & company, Dan Diehl used to sell it also and he would ad the right amount or promoter to it for your temps. Bill Higdon -----Original Message----- From: Mark Langford [mailto:langford@hiwaay.net] Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 4:38 PM To: krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> Fuel Tanks Mike T wrote: >>I'm putting fuel tanks in my wings. can somone tell me what type of resin I should use that would be the most compatable with fuel. I just want to make sure I don"t have any leaks.<< Vinylester, hands down. It stinks, it's difficult to work with (because it cures almost instantly on your warm hands), but it's reputed to be THE most fuel resistant of the bunch. There is an upside though. Since it's catalyzed it can cure at low temperatures. Some people love it, I hate it, but it's what you need to make fuel tanks out of, if you're not using aluminum. Aircraft Spruce sells it, but last time I checked, Wicks didn't, unfortunately. AS&S took MONTHs to actually deliver it, however... Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama mailto:langford@hiwaay.net see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford --------------------------------------------------------------------- To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , or "reply all" To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ . AOL and Compuserve do NOT pass KRNet email, so use some other system! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 01:21:25 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: "Oscar Zuniga" Subject: Fuel Tanks Message-ID: MikeT writes: >I'm putting fuel tanks in my wings. can somone tell me what type >of resin I should use that would be the most compatable with fuel. I believe that would be vinylester resin. Smells terrible, but should be completely unaffected by fuels. Probably some of the other epoxies are resistant as well, but you need to test some sample coupons by soaking them in jars of different fuels for a while to verify that they don't start flaking, sloughing, or deteriorating over time. Use urethane foam for making fuel tanks, too; polystyrene will absolutely vanish if it even gets close to fuel or vapors. (Also spray paint; don't ask me how I know). >I just want to make sure I don"t have any leaks. This is more a function of your workmanship in building the tanks, and on how well you install the various fittings. And when you get done, seal everything up and put a partially-inflated balloon on one of the fittings. If it goes limp from one day to the next, start looking for leaks. (And don't forget that the pressure will go down a tad as the air inside cools off, like if you leave it in the garage overnight). Oscar Zuniga Medford, Oregon mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 17:40:36 -0800 To: "Higdon, Bill" , "'krnet@mailinglists.org'" From: Tracy & Carol O'Brien Subject: RE: KR> Fuel Tanks Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.20011129174036.007d8100@localaccess.com> Netters: A note of clarification on vinylester resins: Vinylesters are "pre-promoted", that is, a chemical is added when you purchase it that will allow it to cure when catalyst is added. The pre-promoted resin has a limited shelf life and when you go beyond the shelf life all the catalyst in the world won't make it cure! I believe that additional promoter can be added, but you would need to check with your supplier. I think I read somewhere that the promoter is, or contains, cobalt: I don't know if this would be the same as the cobalt drier used to speed up oil based paints (wonderful stuff!). Vinylesters tend to be more runny than polyesters or the thinner epoxies. This may be able to be controlled by the addition of cab-o-sil to the resin. Regards, Tracy O'Brien ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 21:54:02 -0500 To: , From: "RONALD.FREIBERGER" Subject: RE: KR> Fuel Tanks Message-ID: Use aluminum resin Ron Freiberger... mailto:ron.martha@mindspring.com -----Original Message----- From: dawnpatrol@onemain.com [mailto:dawnpatrol@onemain.com] Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 7:17 PM To: krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: KR> Fuel Tanks I'm putting fuel tanks in my wings. can somone tell me what type of resin I should use that would be the most compatable with fuel. I just want to make sure I don"t have any leaks. MikeT ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 04:16:43 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: "Oscar Zuniga" Subject: Fuel Tanks Message-ID: >Use aluminum resin Ron- What gauge do you recommend? ;o) Oscar Zuniga Medford, Oregon mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 21:32:55 -0800 To: KR list From: Shane Daly Subject: Re: KR> Fuel Tanks Message-id: <005f01c17960$766f1fe0$861b4f18@cg.shawcable.net> Mike and All, I have built a few fibreglass fuel tanks for various aircraft. The best results have been with Jeffco fuel tank sealer (AS&S). You build your tank using any resin you are comfortable with, add all your fittings, and then coat it with the sealer just before permanently closing the tank. It will fill any pinholes in your lay-ups and seal all your fittings in place. If anyone is interested in this type of tank construction, just let me know and I will post a tank construction article using this method. Shane Daly Calgary, Canada. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 4:16 PM Subject: KR> Fuel Tanks I'm putting fuel tanks in my wings. can somone tell me what type of resin I should use that would be the most compatable with fuel. I just want to make sure I don"t have any leaks. MikeT ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 23:39:50 -0500 To: "Oscar Zuniga" , From: "RONALD.FREIBERGER" Subject: RE: KR> Fuel Tanks Message-ID: Oscar asked.... Ron- What gauge do you recommend? ;o) It kind of depends on your welder ( person ). I used .050, and he bitched a lot, but other welders I've known would have been okay with that gauge. .060 is maybe a little nicer to push around. Use 5052 alloy. The people I've worked with in the past like to form the ends inward and weld around the periphery. A lazier welder will turn the flanges out and weld (melt) the edges together. That doesn't hold pressure well and is subject to cracking because of the peeling stress. Ron Freiberger... mailto:ron.martha@mindspring.com -----Original Message----- From: Oscar Zuniga [mailto:taildrags@hotmail.com] Sent: Friday, November 30, 2001 4:17 AM To: krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: KR> Fuel Tanks >Use aluminum resin Oscar Zuniga Medford, Oregon mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp --------------------------------------------------------------------- To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , or "reply all" To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ . AOL and Compuserve do NOT pass KRNet email, so use some other system! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 22:02:12 -0800 To: KR list From: Shane Daly Subject: Re: KR> Fuel Tanks Message-id: <00b101c17964$8e271120$861b4f18@cg.shawcable.net> --Boundary_(ID_mo4lRDQ3lHp7ug3qfgNkvg) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Not the same stuff. The Jeffco sealer is used on most Lancairs, Varies, and on the Turbine Legend. I've never had a problem yet. Shane Calgary, Canada. ----- Original Message ----- From: CHOCTAWCWR@aol.com To: f4u5n@shaw.ca Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 8:36 PM Subject: Re: KR> Fuel Tanks wasnt there a lot of posts a few years back about some of that stuff comming loose and clogging a gas line causing a power out? charles atlanta, tx --Boundary_(ID_mo4lRDQ3lHp7ug3qfgNkvg)-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 17:37:07 -0500 To: , From: "w.g. kirkland" Subject: Re: KR> Fuel Tanks Message-ID: <002001c179ef$8b89e7e0$48b45bd1@utboopki> Vinyl ester is the best for fuel tanks. Just remember it has to be "promoted" before use and therefore has a shelf life of only a couple of months. Be sure uour supplier also has BYK S-750 styrene suppressant. Add between 0.3 and 1%. It really reduces the smell of the ester. W.G.(Bill) KIRKLAND kirkland@vianet.on.ca ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 7:16 PM Subject: KR> Fuel Tanks I'm putting fuel tanks in my wings. can somone tell me what type of resin I should use that would be the most compatable with fuel. I just want to make sure I don"t have any leaks. MikeT ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 07:26:47 -0600 To: From: "Mark Langford" Cc: Subject: Corvair/KR2S cowling update Message-ID: <00da01c179a2$aa553be0$5f0ca58c@mlangford> Some of you guys probably think I've been milking this cowling thing for all it's worth, and you'd be right that I've been able to take seemingly tiny construction steps and turn them into major ordeals. But for you guys that are building Corvair engines for your KR2S, I can't resist saying EAT YOUR SCHTINKIN' HEARTS OUT! See http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/01112730.jpg or http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/cowling.html#update for more details... Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL mailto:langford@hiwaay.net see KR2S project at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 13:54:03 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: "Oscar Zuniga" Subject: Corvair/KR2S cowling update Message-ID: Mark wrote: >for you guys that are building Corvair engines for your KR2S, >I can't resist saying >http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/cowling.html#update Mark- way cool! Question: with this unit being as lightweight as it is, how would you rate the rigidity, relative to the R-R premold? I've handled the R-R product and have a sense for its weight and 'floppiness factor'. Is your 'bug-eye cowl' (or Viper cowl) stiff enough at this light weight? And hey- notice how I took editorial license with the snip from your post? We're gonna keep the new KRNet admin humble ;o) Happy Friday! Oscar Zuniga Medford, Oregon mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 07:11:12 -0600 (CST) To: "Mark Langford" From: flykr2s@execpc.com Cc: , Subject: Re: KR> Corvair/KR2S cowling update Message-Id: <200111301311.HAA61928@nm1.nwbl.wi.voyager.net> Langford you are a bad, mean and dispicable person for taunting us with your beautiful cowling. That is definately a work of art and I am just wondering when you will have mine ready for me. Good job, Mark Jones > Some of you guys probably think I've been milking this cowling thing for all > it's worth, and you'd be right that I've been able to take seemingly tiny > construction steps and turn them into major ordeals. But for you guys that > are building Corvair engines for your KR2S, I can't resist saying EAT YOUR > SCHTINKIN' HEARTS OUT! > > See http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/01112730.jpg or > http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/cowling.html#update for more details... > > Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL > mailto:langford@hiwaay.net > see KR2S project at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , or "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ . > AOL and Compuserve do NOT pass KRNet email, so use some other system! > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 08:48:06 -0500 To: "KRnet" From: "Jerry Mahurin" Subject: Bob Hoover's website.... Message-ID: Netters, For all you Bob Hoover fans; and anyone wanting to know more about VW engines, here is the URL to Bob Hoover's website. http://osf02.ktu.edu.tr/~ulutas/hoover/ Despite all the action over Corvair and Soob engines, the VW is still alive and well. There are probably more KRs being pulled along behind VWs than any other engine. Check out this website....!! Keep on keeping on, Jerry Mahurin Lugoff, SC ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 16:51:58 +0100 To: "KRnet" From: "Aripo" Subject: stick Message-ID: <001001c179b7$18553d20$e6b71997@aripo> ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C179BF.5302EE60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi I've tested a KR2 with center stick ( I-KRLI) and a KR2 with side stick = ( I-DUCL) I prefer certainly the center stick (between legs). Franco Italy I-KRFN www.negri.cjb.net =20 ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C179BF.5302EE60-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 13:18:12 -0500 To: "KRNET" From: "RONALD.FREIBERGER" Subject: Lavon Loynd virus Message-ID: I just got a virus message from Lavon Loynd... Don't open it. If you don't yet have Norton Antivirus, you'll soon be in trouble. Ron Freiberger... mailto:ron.martha@mindspring.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 11:55:37 -0800 To: ,"KRNET" From: Tracy & Carol O'Brien Subject: Re: KR> Lavon Loynd virus Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.20011130115537.007d9c60@localaccess.com> Netters: I've received several e-mails in the last 2-3 days with the KR handle that only contain an attachment address and no other text: is this something being generated by any of the current viruses? Tracy O'Brien At 01:18 PM 11/30/2001 -0500, RONALD.FREIBERGER wrote: >I just got a virus message from Lavon Loynd... Don't open it. If you don't >yet have Norton Antivirus, you'll soon be in trouble. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 16:01:56 -0500 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: "Philip J. Visconti" Subject: Fw: Re: KR> Lavon Loynd virus Message-ID: <20011130.160157.-357517.2.viscan@juno.com> --------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Philip J. Visconti To: ron.martha@mindspring.com Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 15:57:40 -0500 Subject: Re: KR> Lavon Loynd virus Ron, I got an E-mail from the same person but there was no message. It only had an E-mail address so I deleted right away. Did yours have a message or any text other than the E-mail address ? Phil ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 16:22:20 -0500 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: "Philip J. Visconti" Subject: VIRUS DANGER Message-ID: <20011130.162221.-357517.4.viscan@juno.com> ----__JNP_000_5535.2d30.18de Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I just received an E-mail from some unknown sender. The title was "HaHaHa". It was in French and my wife read it and it states about a "Big Surprise". Of course, the words were all in French. This must be another virus. It has an attachment with it. I did not open attachment. I deleted it right away. Phil Visconti ----__JNP_000_5535.2d30.18de-- ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 16:14:42 -0600 (CST) To: "Philip J. Visconti" From: flykr2s@execpc.com Cc: krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> VIRUS DANGER Message-Id: <200111302214.QAA68717@nm0.nwbl.wi.voyager.net> Definately a virus. I received it yesterday and my virus scan picked up on it. Mark Jones > I just received an E-mail from some unknown sender. The title was > "HaHaHa". > > It was in French and my wife read it and it states about a "Big > Surprise". Of course, the words were all in French. This must be another > virus. It has an attachment with it. I did not open attachment. I > deleted it right away. > > Phil Visconti> > ________________________________________________________________ > GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! > Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! > Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 15:38:18 -0700 To: "Philip J. Visconti" From: gleone CC: krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> VIRUS DANGER Message-ID: <3C080A5A.D6048504@tritel.net> --------------EB20707A586C133E7C77CB28 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The "HaHaHa" virus has been around for a long time. This is not meant to sound like a flame, but if the attachment is anything other than a .JPG, BMP, PCX, etc., don't open it. The attachment information will tell you a lot about what it is. If it says "unknown application type", delete the thing and then flush your trash. The one I kept getting was "the real story about Snow White and the Seven Dwarves". It was a "sexy.com" address so I just deleted without reading, much less opening. After the 5th time that day, I went to www.sexy.com to tell people to remove me from their mailing list. The domain name was bought by an anti virus provider who was warning visitors about this being a virus. Personally, I have no problem at all taking the purveyors of this stuff, taking both their legs and arms, and leaving them 20 miles from the nearest road in our Wyoming badlands as coyote bait. Just remember the rule of thumb: anything other than an image file and flush it. "Philip J. Visconti" wrote: > I just received an E-mail from some unknown sender. The title was > "HaHaHa". > > It was in French and my wife read it and it states about a "Big > Surprise". Of course, the words were all in French. This must be another > virus. It has an attachment with it. I did not open attachment. I > deleted it right away. > > Phil Visconti --------------EB20707A586C133E7C77CB28-- ------------------------------ End of krnet Digest ***********************************