From: To: Subject: krnet Digest 11 Dec 2001 16:51:48 -0000 Issue 339 Date: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 8:52 AM krnet Digest 11 Dec 2001 16:51:48 -0000 Issue 339 Topics (messages 8024 through 8053): Bendix Mags 8024 by: Kenneth L Wiltrout 8027 by: David R. Christensen 8029 by: David R. Christensen 8033 by: mike 8034 by: Linda Warner 8035 by: Linda Warner Byrd Crash 8025 by: ROBERT COOPER 8032 by: macwood Posa Carb 8026 by: Sean Clay 8031 by: Daniel Heath 8036 by: virgnvs.juno.com 8037 by: David R. Christensen 8040 by: Phillip Matheson Dihedral with AS5048 Foil..? 8028 by: Peter Johnson Pilot Manual 8030 by: Serge VIDAL Transponder 8038 by: Sean Clay still working 8039 by: Tim Brown 8053 by: Ross Youngblood New Web Site Available 8041 by: Eckmstr.netscape.net Fuslage 8042 by: dawnpatrol.onemain.com 8045 by: virgnvs.juno.com 8049 by: Donald Reid kr gathering 2002 8043 by: garbez 8052 by: Robert Stone Re: 28 second video online of the engine running with a AERO CARB (with sound) 8044 by: William Tabbert VIDEO ? 8046 by: Philip J. Visconti Instrument Brands... 8047 by: Peter Johnson Trade Flox for Micro 8048 by: Daniel Heath Plane crazy/fuslage 8050 by: dawnpatrol.onemain.com Byrd Crash Photos 8051 by: Donald Reid Administrivia: To subscribe to the digest, e-mail: To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail: To post to the list, e-mail: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2001 15:20:42 -0500 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: Kenneth L Wiltrout Subject: Bendix Mags Message-ID: <20011209.152045.-68713.1.klw1953@juno.com> While I'm waiting for the word on these things from the local shop I decided that they were coming off just for my piece of mind if nothing else. The 2100 is now out and on the floor. What I found is the cam for the points still had lube on them after 20 yrs, 19 of which were spent in a box traveling around the USA. Does any one know what kind of lubricant goes on the felts for each set of points? It seems like oil was used when they were assembled. Thanks ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2001 21:23:19 -0700 To: "krnet mailing lists" From: "David R. Christensen" Subject: Fw: KR> Bendix Mags Message-ID: <002e01c18132$662911c0$5ae16441@davec> Ken, There is a special grease for the felts that comes in a tiny little sealed pouch. That's all I can tell you about it. -----Original Message----- From: Kenneth L Wiltrout To: krnet@mailinglists.org Date: Sunday, December 09, 2001 1:19 PM Subject: KR> Bendix Mags >While I'm waiting for the word on these things from the local shop I >decided that they were coming off just for my piece of mind if nothing >else. The 2100 is now out and on the floor. What I found is the cam for >the points still had lube on them after 20 yrs, 19 of which were spent in >a box traveling around the USA. Does any one know what kind of lubricant >goes on the felts for each set of points? It seems like oil was used when >they were assembled. Thanks > >________________________________________________________________ >GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! >Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! >Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: >http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , or "reply all" > >To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org >For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > >See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ . >AOL and Compuserve do NOT pass KRNet email, so use some other system! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2001 22:22:23 -0700 To: "krnet mailing lists" From: "David R. Christensen" Subject: Fw: KR> Bendix Mags Message-ID: <005901c1813a$a67d4b80$5ae16441@davec> Ken, Another thing you will want to attend to periodically on your Bendix mag is to spray the impulse coupler with WD40. You have to take the mag off to do this. These are not lubricated on the Revmaster and eventually dry out and start to jam. When this happens you will feel a hard catch during the compression stroke when you pull the prop through and hear a metallic sound. My experience is that it needs to be done once a year to avoid this occurrance and possible damage to the impulse coupler and /or starter motor. -----Original Message----- From: Kenneth L Wiltrout To: krnet@mailinglists.org Date: Sunday, December 09, 2001 1:19 PM Subject: KR> Bendix Mags >While I'm waiting for the word on these things from the local shop I >decided that they were coming off just for my piece of mind if nothing >else. The 2100 is now out and on the floor. What I found is the cam for >the points still had lube on them after 20 yrs, 19 of which were spent in >a box traveling around the USA. Does any one know what kind of lubricant >goes on the felts for each set of points? It seems like oil was used when >they were assembled. Thanks > >________________________________________________________________ >GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! >Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! >Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: >http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , or "reply all" > >To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org >For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > >See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ . >AOL and Compuserve do NOT pass KRNet email, so use some other system! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 08:02:24 -0500 To: From: "mike" Subject: re: bendix mags Message-ID: <00ac01c1817a$ec0183c0$6400a8c0@wolftreeinc.com> ------=_NextPart_000_00A7_01C18151.00C79B20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have an O-200 with bendix mags am I to understand that they are no = good? I hear they are expensive to repl or get parts for, should i trade = them for slicks? ------=_NextPart_000_00A7_01C18151.00C79B20-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 08:11:31 -0500 (EST) To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: jaslkw@webtv.net (Linda Warner) Subject: Fwd: Fw: KR> Bendix Mags Message-ID: <4169-3C14B483-2415@storefull-227.iap.bryant.webtv.net> --WebTV-Mail-29894-1210 Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit The special grease referred to in the last post may be what is used for Slick mags. Bendix uses a 20 or 30 weight oil on their wick to lube the point follower. One drop on the end farthest from the points is what they call for. If the wick is wet already as evidenced by touching it with your finger, then no extra oil would be needed. Also needing a little lube (oil) would be the wick around the distributor shaft (two on your mag). These are to be oiled liberally and then blot the excess away. If maintained properly and kept timed, these mags should prove as reliable as any other. They CAN prove to be a little frustrating to work on as they have to be opened up to service/inspect and setting and synchronizing the points is a chore. You need to have them checked to be sure All the S.B.'s and AD's are done. This is required even tho you are using them on a homebuilt as they are certified components and as such are subject to AD's. John Sickafoose, A&P, Tech Counselor, Naples Fl --WebTV-Mail-29894-1210 Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Message/RFC822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Received: from smtpin-101-7.bryant.webtv.net (209.240.198.41) by storefull-225.iap.bryant.webtv.net with WTV-SMTP; Sun, 9 Dec 2001 20:17:22 -0800 (PST) Received: by smtpin-101-7.bryant.webtv.net (WebTV_Postfix+sws) id B96821EA; Sun, 9 Dec 2001 20:17:22 -0800 (PST) Delivered-To: jaslkw@webtv.net Received: from mailinglists.org (server1.mailinglists.org [63.160.175.18]) by smtpin-101-7.bryant.webtv.net (WebTV_Postfix+sws) with SMTP id D323F172 for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2001 20:17:21 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 12404 invoked by alias); 10 Dec 2001 04:16:57 -0000 Mailing-List: contact krnet-help@mailinglists.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: Delivered-To: mailing list krnet@mailinglists.org Received: (qmail 12395 invoked from network); 10 Dec 2001 04:16:57 -0000 Message-ID: <002e01c18132$662911c0$5ae16441@davec> From: "David R. Christensen" To: "krnet mailing lists" Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2001 21:23:19 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Subject: Fw: KR> Bendix Mags Ken, There is a special grease for the felts that comes in a tiny little sealed pouch. That's all I can tell you about it. -----Original Message----- From: Kenneth L Wiltrout To: krnet@mailinglists.org Date: Sunday, December 09, 2001 1:19 PM Subject: KR> Bendix Mags >While I'm waiting for the word on these things from the local shop I >decided that they were coming off just for my piece of mind if nothing >else. The 2100 is now out and on the floor. What I found is the cam for >the points still had lube on them after 20 yrs, 19 of which were spent in >a box traveling around the USA. Does any one know what kind of lubricant >goes on the felts for each set of points? It seems like oil was used when >they were assembled. Thanks > >________________________________________________________________ >GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! >Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! >Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: >http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , or "reply all" > >To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org >For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > >See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ . >AOL and Compuserve do NOT pass KRNet email, so use some other system! --------------------------------------------------------------------- To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , or "reply all" To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ . AOL and Compuserve do NOT pass KRNet email, so use some other system! --WebTV-Mail-29894-1210-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 08:33:05 -0500 (EST) To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: jaslkw@webtv.net (Linda Warner) Subject: Fwd: KR> re: bendix mags Message-ID: <4169-3C14B991-2434@storefull-227.iap.bryant.webtv.net> --WebTV-Mail-13611-1217 Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit The Bendix mags are just as reliable as Slicks (a little heavier tho). You DO need to make sure the AD's are all done on them. The early ones had some seroius AD's (like bad coils and rotors, and drive gear bushings that would fail). You can save about a pound each by switching to Slicks, but that might be more than you want to spend. John Sickafoose, Naples, Fl --WebTV-Mail-13611-1217 Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Message/RFC822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Received: from smtpin-101-10.bryant.webtv.net (209.240.198.178) by storefull-221.iap.bryant.webtv.net with WTV-SMTP; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 05:05:05 -0800 (PST) Received: by smtpin-101-10.bryant.webtv.net (WebTV_Postfix+sws) id BF613215; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 05:05:08 -0800 (PST) Delivered-To: jaslkw@webtv.net Received: from mailinglists.org (server1.mailinglists.org [63.160.175.18]) by smtpin-101-10.bryant.webtv.net (WebTV_Postfix+sws) with SMTP id 986D61BE for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 05:05:07 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 4234 invoked by alias); 10 Dec 2001 13:04:30 -0000 Mailing-List: contact krnet-help@mailinglists.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: Delivered-To: mailing list krnet@mailinglists.org Received: (qmail 4225 invoked from network); 10 Dec 2001 13:04:30 -0000 Message-ID: <00ac01c1817a$ec0183c0$6400a8c0@wolftreeinc.com> From: "mike" To: Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 08:02:24 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00A7_01C18151.00C79B20" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Subject: KR> re: bendix mags ------=_NextPart_000_00A7_01C18151.00C79B20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have an O-200 with bendix mags am I to understand that they are no = good? I hear they are expensive to repl or get parts for, should i trade = them for slicks? ------=_NextPart_000_00A7_01C18151.00C79B20-- --WebTV-Mail-13611-1217-- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2001 16:07:09 -0500 To: "Gene Byrd" , "JBean10418_1" , "Kendy" , "krnet_1" , "Stella Cooper" From: "ROBERT COOPER" Subject: Byrd Crash Message-ID: ------=_NextPart_001_0001_01C180CB.8E114F20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Gene, KR netters, Friends. I have revised the Byrd Crash website so I hope more of you will be succe= ssful in viewing it. There are now 6 pages with 1 photo on each page exce= pt for page 6. The high volum of traffic has shut the site down. Be patie= nt and try again later if at first you don't succeed. The pictures are wo= rth the wait. What can I expect from a free website? http://www.geocities.com/cooperkr2/byrdcrash1.html Jack Cooper mailto:kr2cooper@msn.com http://www.geocities.com/kr2cooper/ Fayetteville, NC. ------=_NextPart_001_0001_01C180CB.8E114F20-- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 12:23:36 -0000 To: "krnet_1" , "larry flesner" From: "macwood" Subject: Re: KR> Byrd Crash Message-ID: <001401c062a4$1c6c6bc0$a32a3c3e@tinypc> Tell Gene not to despair-, My bird (excuse pun) looked like his a couple of years ago- fuselage buggered but wings and tail more or less intact. I found a spare fuse from an abandoned project, and slotted my wings into it from underneath, having cut through the lower longerons. Found the 2 parts matched within a mm . Scarfed the longerons and reskinned the fuse,-good as new! Ross has a pic. Know how you feel Gene, but look at the bright side, you walked away from it! So a merry Christmas to you and all our readers(sorry-in PC speak that's "a merry holiday!) Cheers Mac -W Merry Old England . ----- Original Message ----- From: larry flesner To: krnet_1 Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2001 1:17 PM Subject: Re: KR> Byrd Crash > >I have posted some pictures of Gene Byrds crashed KR2. > >Jack Cooper > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > Jack, > > Those are some AWSOME pictures !!! I'd say Gene and passenger > are two lucky people. I couldn't get all of the pictures to > download. If it's not too much trouble, could you post each > picture with a different address? The entire package may take > the same time to download but it may stop dropping out before > finished each time. > > Thanks and Happy Holidays, > > Larry Flesner > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , or "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ . > AOL and Compuserve do NOT pass KRNet email, so use some other system! > > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2001 20:04:36 -0800 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: "Sean Clay" Subject: Posa Carb Message-ID: Hello all I am back. I have purchased a completed KR1 only question I have is about the posa carb thats on it should I leave it on or switch it out. I have heard many bad stories. Is anyone having good luck with them, and if change is needed what should i switch it to. Thanks _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 06:27:26 -0500 To: "Sean Clay" , From: "Daniel Heath" Subject: Re: KR> Posa Carb Message-ID: <002501c1816d$a5c64f60$b12c5d0c@scana.com> Does it work? Sometimes people get them to work. Bob Muse was running one and didn't seem to have a problem with it. I junked mine. If it ain't broke, why fix it? If it doesn't work, get an Ellison. Daniel R. Heath WWW.EAA242.ORG See our KR2 at: www.JerryMahurin.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sean Clay" To: Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2001 11:04 PM Subject: KR> Posa Carb > Hello all I am back. I have purchased a completed KR1 only question I have > is about the posa carb thats on it should I leave it on or switch it out. I > have heard many bad stories. Is anyone having good luck with them, and if > change is needed what should i switch it to. Thanks > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , or "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ . > AOL and Compuserve do NOT pass KRNet email, so use some other system! > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 09:28:45 -0500 To: clay1pilot@hotmail.com From: virgnvs@juno.com Cc: krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> Posa Carb Message-ID: <20011210.094034.-240143.1.virgnvs@juno.com> Try it first, then decide, Virg On Sun, 09 Dec 2001 20:04:36 -0800 "Sean Clay" writes: > Hello all I am back. I have purchased a completed KR1 only question I > have > is about the posa carb thats on it should I leave it on or switch it > out. I > have heard many bad stories. Is anyone having good luck with them, > and if > change is needed what should i switch it to. Thanks > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at > http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , or "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ . > AOL and Compuserve do NOT pass KRNet email, so use some other > system! > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 08:28:57 -0700 To: "krnet mailing lists" From: "David R. Christensen" Subject: Fw: KR> Posa Carb Message-ID: <002701c1818f$63472d40$b7e16441@davec> The Revflow carburetor is redesigned Posa. It can be used with gravity feed on the KR. You have to shut off the engine with the fuel valve. The mixture control valve in idle cutoff does not seal well enough to prevent fuel from flowing into the intake manifold and flooding the engine, making it impossible to start until cleared. With a tail dragger this can be done by lifting the tail and letting the fuel run out the carburetor. When starting the engine you have to crack the mixture only a slight amount to prevent flooding. This is especially critical on hot days or when the engine is warm. If it floods you have to shut off the fuel valve and get it cleared. The only other problem I had with it in ten years of use was when the set screw on the control shaft worked loose and prevented me from idling back enough to land without either braking with the tail up or shutting down the engine. I chose the latter and ground looped off the runway when I pulled the tail down. There is also a problem with the mixture distribution being variable due to the way the fuel enters the carburetor. You just have to make sure you don't run any of the cylinders too lean. I have an EGT with a probe on each cylinder. I get up to 100 degrees difference between the hottest and coldest cylinders. -----Original Message----- From: Sean Clay To: krnet@mailinglists.org Date: Sunday, December 09, 2001 9:05 PM Subject: KR> Posa Carb >Hello all I am back. I have purchased a completed KR1 only question I have >is about the posa carb thats on it should I leave it on or switch it out. I >have heard many bad stories. Is anyone having good luck with them, and if >change is needed what should i switch it to. Thanks > >_________________________________________________________________ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , or "reply all" > >To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org >For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > >See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ . >AOL and Compuserve do NOT pass KRNet email, so use some other system! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 09:01:28 +1100 To: "David R. Christensen" , "krnet mailing lists" From: "Phillip Matheson" Subject: Re: KR> Posa Carb Message-ID: <002b01c181c6$39d124c0$0100a8c0@barry> Dave, You seem to have good knowledge of carbies, I have just picked up an unfinished KR2. The seller is a VW overhaul specialist, and is building me a Type 4 2.4lit engine. He said I could have fuel injection or carbie. What do you think,??? I have to supply the ECU or Carbie. Or any comments from other interested KR2 neters. Phillip Matheson Australia matheson@dodo.com.au ----- Original Message ----- From: "David R. Christensen" To: "krnet mailing lists" Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 2:28 AM Subject: Fw: KR> Posa Carb > The Revflow carburetor is redesigned Posa. It can be used with gravity feed > on the KR. You have to shut off the engine with the fuel valve. The > mixture control valve in idle cutoff does not seal well enough to prevent > fuel from flowing into the intake manifold and flooding the engine, making > it impossible to start until cleared. With a tail dragger this can be done > by lifting the tail and letting the fuel run out the carburetor. When > starting the engine you have to crack the mixture only a slight amount to > prevent flooding. This is especially critical on hot days or when the > engine is warm. If it floods you have to shut off the fuel valve and get it > cleared. The only other problem I had with it in ten years of use was when > the set screw on the control shaft worked loose and prevented me from idling > back enough to land without either braking with the tail up or shutting down > the engine. I chose the latter and ground looped off the runway when I > pulled the tail down. There is also a problem with the mixture distribution > being variable due to the way the fuel enters the carburetor. You just have > to make sure you don't run any of the cylinders too lean. I have an EGT > with a probe on each cylinder. I get up to 100 degrees difference between > the hottest and coldest cylinders. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Sean Clay > To: krnet@mailinglists.org > Date: Sunday, December 09, 2001 9:05 PM > Subject: KR> Posa Carb > > > >Hello all I am back. I have purchased a completed KR1 only question I have > >is about the posa carb thats on it should I leave it on or switch it out. I > >have heard many bad stories. Is anyone having good luck with them, and if > >change is needed what should i switch it to. Thanks > > > >_________________________________________________________________ > >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > >To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , or "reply all" > > > >To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > >For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > > >See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ . > >AOL and Compuserve do NOT pass KRNet email, so use some other system! > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , or "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ . > AOL and Compuserve do NOT pass KRNet email, so use some other system! > > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2001 22:53:56 -0800 To: From: "Peter Johnson" Subject: Dihedral with AS5048 Foil..? Message-ID: <000d01c18147$949f1800$1ba5e2d1@peter> ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C18104.6202FDA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Here's a question for all... In laying out my dihedral (no, I didn't do it before installing the root = spars), I've found that with the extra 1" depth of the AS5048 (8 3/16"), vs the = stock 7 3/16" depth of spar, that there is only about 1" of dihedral = when measured on the top of the wing surface. (I'm using the AS5045 at = the tip). Has anyone increased the dihedral 1" over the stock 5" to compensate for = the increased depth of the AS5048? I'm thinking that increasing the dihedral by 1", to 6", is not going to = have any affect on inflight handling, and it'll look better too. What kinda of thoughts do you have on this? =20 Thanks. Peter Johnson, Kenora, Ontario building a KR-2S with curves. mailto:pjohnson@voyageur.ca ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C18104.6202FDA0-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 08:56:07 +0200 To: From: "Serge VIDAL" Subject: Pilot Manual Message-ID: <002401c18147$e5474980$c504a8c0@sergevateint> ------=_NextPart_000_001E_01C18158.81F35E80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable My pilot manual is now complete, and available, as promised, to all = Netters. Thanks again to all who helped me with drawings and texts. I = did not use all of them so far: this time, the target was to do = something, as quickly as possible, to make my local airworthiness = authorities happy. The next iteration will be nicer, I Hope! Anyway, the manual is inspired from the Diamond Katana's, which is a = compact, no-nonsense, easy to use manual. It is adapted to my KR2, which = is a stock KR2 with fixed taildragger landing gear, and a VW 2liter = engine. It is in Microsoft Word format. Anybody interested, just post me. Serge VIDAL KR2 ZS-WEC Johannesburg, South Africa ------=_NextPart_000_001E_01C18158.81F35E80-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 07:28:38 -0800 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: "Sean Clay" Subject: Transponder Message-ID: Where can I find a inexpensive transponder? _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 13:51:50 -0800 (PST) To: Group KR NET From: Tim Brown Subject: still working Message-ID: <20011210215150.73385.qmail@web9501.mail.yahoo.com> Quick little update. I had planned a weekend of building...been too busy the past several week. I am sure most of you can identify with the results...wife: we need to go Christmas shopping; we need to get a tree; when are you going to get the lights up; let's bring the tree in and decorate it; bring the boxes of Christmas decorations up.....................Ran the furnace in my garage all day Saturday and Sunday for not much work, but, oh well. Anyway, I did drill the holes through the fuselage for the rudder cable, epoxied in some nylaflow tubing through the hole and to the nearest vertical spruce, sanded the tubing smooth with the fuselage on Sunday evening, ran a cable end through the tubing and connected my first thimble and shackle using the swaging tool from AS&S. I then attached it to the rudder horn with a clevis pin. Well, at least this was an important step for me so I wanted to share it. I was also able to cut out some fairlead similar to those Mark L has on his sight. Anyone have an opinion on whether or not to place a small piece of nylaflow tubing in this type of fairlead? Just thought it might make it smoother and wear less. Thanks for all the advice thus far. I sure hope to meet some of you all sometime. Tim __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 09:58:42 -0700 To: Tim Brown , Group KR NET From: Ross Youngblood Subject: Re: KR> still working Message-Id: <20011211165159.WWGF29545.femail7.sdc1.sfba.home.com@cx239334-a> Tim, Good luck... keep up the work! I can relate. -- Ross 12/10/2001 2:51:50 PM, Tim Brown wrote: >Quick little update. I had planned a weekend of >building...been too busy the past several week. >I am sure most of you can identify with the >results...wife: we need to go Christmas shopping; >we need to get a tree; when are you going to get >the lights up; let's bring the tree in and >decorate it; bring the boxes of Christmas >decorations up.....................Ran the >furnace in my garage all day Saturday and Sunday >for not much work, but, oh well. > >Anyway, I did drill the holes through the >fuselage for the rudder cable, epoxied in some >nylaflow tubing through the hole and to the >nearest vertical spruce, sanded the tubing smooth >with the fuselage on Sunday evening, ran a cable >end through the tubing and connected my first >thimble and shackle using the swaging tool from >AS&S. I then attached it to the rudder horn with >a clevis pin. > >Well, at least this was an important step for me >so I wanted to share it. > >I was also able to cut out some fairlead similar >to those Mark L has on his sight. Anyone have an >opinion on whether or not to place a small piece >of nylaflow tubing in this type of fairlead? >Just thought it might make it smoother and wear >less. > >Thanks for all the advice thus far. I sure hope >to meet some of you all sometime. > >Tim > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Send your FREE holiday greetings online! >http://greetings.yahoo.com > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , or "reply all" > >To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org >For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > >See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ . >AOL and Compuserve do NOT pass KRNet email, so use some other system! > > Ross Youngblood rossy65@home.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 18:24:48 -0500 To: krnet@mailinglists.org (KR-Net) From: Eckmstr@netscape.net Subject: New Web Site Available Message-ID: <238D790E.68AE88E0.00167451@netscape.net> Hello KRnetters, I've been working on a webpage for awhile and I've come to the conclusion that if I wait until it's finished you'll never see it. At this poin it's quite empty (re: fabrication) but we all know that you need to start somewhere. Feel free to swing by and get bored. If you have any suggestions there is a link for email as well. Just remember that in every page you can always hit your back button and find your way to other pages. Enjoy and check back occasionally for new Updates. Have a blessed Holiday Season and remember to make the most of every day. Tomorrow is never garranteed. Merry Christmas from the Miller Family http://www.geocities.com/kr2flyer And FYI --- It appears that next year (mid-summer) I'll be getting married and moving to the Atlanta Area. For those unlucky souls that reside down there I offer my condolences before hand. ;-) Clear skys and calm winds, Jon Miller And as always...be safe and watch yur 6! Minneapolis Minnesota .01% Complete -- __________________________________________________________________ Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with Shop@Netscape! http://shopnow.netscape.com/ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 19:56:48 -0600 To: From: Subject: Fuslage Message-ID: <001401c181e7$19e74560$e711f8d1@matandcat> ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01C181B4.CDC32820 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have my KR-2 in the boat stage and would like to make it a little bit = wider at the rear spar station as I am pretty broad across the shoulders = and could use a little more room. I am thinking about cutting the = fuslage from the top of the top logeron on a line from where the back of = the seat would be located down to the top of the rear spar, cutting the = walls of the fuslage along the top of the wing forward to 5/8" rear of = the front spar then spread the side walls of the fuslage and put in a = 1/4" plywood bulkhead extending to the outer portions of the new = locations of the fuslage side walls. This bulkhead would serve as the = back of the seat and support both forward and rear side walls of the = fuslage in their new locations. The bulkhead would also need to be = extended up to the lower skin of where the top turdle deck would be = located, this to give shear strength to both upper and lower portions of = the fuslage.=20 I would be interested in what anybody else out there has done to make = their KRs wider than that shown on the plans. I'm also interested in any = commets or ideas you might have on this subject. If you think I'm nuts = you can comment on that to if you like. My wife says I'm "plane" crazy. Mike T ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01C181B4.CDC32820-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 23:02:21 -0500 To: dawnpatrol@onemain.com From: virgnvs@juno.com Cc: krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> Fuslage Message-ID: <20011210.230425.-326621.2.virgnvs@juno.com> If not widened during construction then forget it. Too late now, Virg On Mon, 10 Dec 2001 19:56:48 -0600 writes: > I have my KR-2 in the boat stage and would like to make it a little > bit wider at the rear spar station as I am pretty broad across the > shoulders and could use a little more room. I am thinking about > cutting the fuslage from the top of the top logeron on a line from > where the back of the seat would be located down to the top of the > rear spar, cutting the walls of the fuslage along the top of the > wing forward to 5/8" rear of the front spar then spread the side > walls of the fuslage and put in a 1/4" plywood bulkhead extending to > the outer portions of the new locations of the fuslage side walls. > This bulkhead would serve as the back of the seat and support both > forward and rear side walls of the fuslage in their new locations. > The bulkhead would also need to be extended up to the lower skin of > where the top turdle deck would be located, this to give shear > strength to both upper and lower portions of the fuslage. > I would be interested in what anybody else out there has done to > make their KRs wider than that shown on the plans. I'm also > interested in any commets or ideas you might have on this subject. > If you think I'm nuts you can comment on that to if you like. My > wife says I'm "plane" crazy. > Mike > T > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 08:16:46 -0500 To: From: Donald Reid Subject: Re: KR> Fuslage Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.0.20011211081258.00a23910@pop.erols.com> --=====================_1595453==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 07:56 PM 12/10/2001 -0600, dawnpatrol@onemain.com wrote: >I have my KR-2 in the boat stage and would like to make it a little bit >wider at the rear spar station as I am pretty broad across the shoulders >and could use a little more room. I am thinking about cutting the fuslage >from the top of the top logeron on a line from where the back of the seat >would be located down to the top of the rear spar, If you are in the process of building the fuselage, then just make it wider. You can increase to 40-44 inches without making any modifications in the structure. If the fuselage is already built and flying (or nearly so), then you are best to let it alone, 'cause it is much too late. Don Reid mailto:donreid@erols.com Bumpass, Va Visit my web sites at: KR2XL construction: http://users.erols.com/donreid/kr_page.htm Aviation Surplus: http://users.erols.com/donreid/Airparts.htm EAA Chapter 231: http://eaa231.org Ultralights: http://usua250.org VA EAA State Fly-in: http://vaeaa.org --=====================_1595453==_.ALT-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 21:09:21 -0600 To: "KR-POST" From: "garbez" Subject: kr gathering 2002 Message-ID: <001401c181f1$55501e60$4903fea9@msgtlg.netins.net> To all KR Guys, I'm not sure where you are looking for the dates for the 2002 gatthering info but the following web site will give you all the info you need. Where were you looking so I can fix the problem? www.krgathering.org Mike Garbez 2002 KR fly-in host Subject: Date of KR 2002 Gathering Larry wrote: >It would be helpful if all the places on your website, where you mention >about the KR gathering for 2002; you also include the "dates of it"!! > >Seeya There, > >Larry A. Capps >Naperville, IL > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 10:29:35 -0600 To: "garbez" , "KR-POST" From: "Robert Stone" Subject: Re: KR> kr gathering 2002 Message-ID: <000801c18261$06ae2840$ebd8fea9@pavilion> Mike: Your Web Site has a little error, It says the 2002 gathering will be held on 19 - 22 September 2001. This was three months ago????????????? Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Tx rlspjs@dashlink.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "garbez" To: "KR-POST" Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 9:09 PM Subject: KR> kr gathering 2002 > To all KR Guys, > I'm not sure where you are looking for the dates for the 2002 gatthering > info but the following web site will give you all the info you need. Where > were you looking so I can fix the problem? > www.krgathering.org > > Mike Garbez 2002 KR fly-in host > > Subject: Date of KR 2002 Gathering > > Larry wrote: > >It would be helpful if all the places on your website, where you mention > >about the KR gathering for 2002; you also include the "dates of it"!! > > > >Seeya There, > > > >Larry A. Capps > >Naperville, IL > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , or "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ . > AOL and Compuserve do NOT pass KRNet email, so use some other system! > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 03:18:47 +0000 To: flyKRS@netscape.net From: "William Tabbert" Cc: krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: RE: KR> 28 second video online of the engine running with a AERO CARB (with sound) Message-ID: Thats odd.... I just checked and the video was missing from the root directory???? Anyway I have reinstalled it and cut the resolution a bit for it to load faster (most people are curious on how the engine sounds with the Aero Carb anyways). Thanks for letting me know, Bill Tabbert >From: flyKRS@netscape.net >To: billtabbert@hotmail.com ("William Tabbert") >Subject: RE: KR> 28 second video online of the engine running with a AERO >CARB (with sound) >Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 11:42:53 -0500 > >Bill tried to download several times "says unavailable". FlyKRS > > > > > >"William Tabbert" wrote: > > >I have produced a 28 second video of the Corvair engine running the AERO > >CARB (low resolution) and made it availible on our webpage. The video is > >complete with sound. Please keep in mind I have done very little tuning >on > >the engine (set Aero Carb and the timing by ear). Just click on the text >and > >it will ask you to D-load the video. It takes about five minutes to > >download. > > > > > >http://jillenium.members.easyspace.com > > > >Bill Tabbert > > > >_________________________________________________________________ > >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at >http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > >To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , or "reply all" > > > >To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > >For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > > >See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ . > >AOL and Compuserve do NOT pass KRNet email, so use some other system! > > > > >-- > > > > >__________________________________________________________________ >Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. >Experience the convenience of buying online with Shop@Netscape! >http://shopnow.netscape.com/ > >Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at >http://webmail.netscape.com/ > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 23:25:58 -0500 To: billtabbert@hotmail.com From: "Philip J. Visconti" Cc: krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: VIDEO ? Message-ID: <20011210.232559.-415037.1.viscan@juno.com> Bill, What video. All I got was a lot of code but no video. What do you have to do to see the video ? Phil ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 00:14:40 -0800 To: , From: "Peter Johnson" Subject: Instrument Brands... Message-ID: <000d01c1821c$01bad080$b1a5e2d1@peter> ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C181D8.D3F74040 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello everyone.. Sometime ago someone was chatting about an instrument brand that had the = numbers located differently from instrument to instrument due to what = the dealer said was 'quality control' at the point of manufacture. Could whoever that was, or whoever remembers what brand of instrument = that was, please post it, thanks. Also, what brands of instruments have people used that they have NOT = liked? Has anyone tried any of the 'Falcon Brand' instruments? I'm getting to that point....!!!! Dashing through the snow,=20 People going "Ho Ho", I can tell you why, They did their shopping in July! mailto:pjohnson@voyageur.ca ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C181D8.D3F74040-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 06:07:12 -0500 To: "krnet" From: "Daniel Heath" Subject: Trade Flox for Micro Message-ID: <004c01c18233$fc7e1970$7d2c5d0c@scana.com> We have 4 bags + of phlox and are almost out of micro. Anyone want to trade some Micro for some Phlox? Daniel R. Heath WWW.EAA242.ORG See our KR2 at: www.JerryMahurin.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 09:00:42 -0600 To: From: Subject: Plane crazy/fuslage Message-ID: <002701c18254$9c001780$7c11f8d1@matandcat> ------=_NextPart_000_0024_01C18222.4FECC320 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Netters, I think I need to clear something up on my wife saying that I = am "plane crazy".=20 She is just kidding when she says I'm "plane crazy". She likes to fly = and is just as "plane crazy" as me.=20 I'm one of the lucky ones with a wife that is just as crazy about flying = as I am. She has a servere case of arthritis but that doesn't stop her. = I have to help her into the plane. She likes to ride along and take = pictures and act as my co-pilot.=20 She likes aviation so well that I'm naming the KR in her name. The "MISS = CAROLYN" Now on making the fuslage wider I liked the suggestion of removing the = skins and putting in longer cross members. I'm still thinking about what = to do, If I do anything at all. I don't have the skin on the bottem yet = so that would make it easier to do something with it. I will keep you = posted. Mike T. ------=_NextPart_000_0024_01C18222.4FECC320-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 11:18:01 -0500 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: Donald Reid Subject: Byrd Crash Photos Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.0.20011211111436.009e6cd0@pop.erols.com> --=====================_12471893==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed I tried to look at the Byrd crash photos that Jack Cooper has posted on his site and had trouble. He was kind enough to send me the photos and I have posted them on the EAA 231 web site. There is no text yet, that will be later. If you are interested, go to http://eaa231.org and then to the link at the bottom of the photo page. Don Reid mailto:donreid@erols.com Bumpass, Va Visit my web sites at: KR2XL construction: http://users.erols.com/donreid/kr_page.htm Aviation Surplus: http://users.erols.com/donreid/Airparts.htm EAA Chapter 231: http://eaa231.org Ultralights: http://usua250.org VA EAA State Fly-in: http://vaeaa.org --=====================_12471893==_.ALT-- ------------------------------ End of krnet Digest ***********************************