From: To: Subject: krnet Digest 17 Jan 2002 19:21:30 -0000 Issue 358 Date: Thursday, January 17, 2002 11:22 AM krnet Digest 17 Jan 2002 19:21:30 -0000 Issue 358 Topics (messages 8459 through 8476): Re: corvaircraft: Re: KR> Photo of the week. 8459 by: Joseph H. Horton Re: epoxy 8460 by: virgnvs.juno.com Re: kr>sun-n-fun 8461 by: virgnvs.juno.com Re: elevator thoughts 8462 by: Daniel Heath 8463 by: Hafsteinn Jónasson Re: VIRUS ALERT Gigger or JS/Gigger.a@MM 8464 by: BillStarrs WING TEMPLATES 8465 by: David Hartz Seat backrest attachment to the rear spar 8466 by: Serge VIDAL 8468 by: Serge VIDAL 8469 by: Peter Johnson 8471 by: dawnpatrol.onemain.com Pictures 8467 by: norm-ruth The seats issue 8470 by: Serge VIDAL 8472 by: Pat Driscoll Re: makes molded seat backrests for the KR2. 8473 by: Rick Hubka 8474 by: Daniel Heath Wheel Pant needed, and How to Subscribe 8475 by: RONALD.FREIBERGER Re: KR-2 plans 8476 by: flykr2s.execpc.com Administrivia: To subscribe to the digest, e-mail: To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail: To post to the list, e-mail: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 16:48:53 -0500 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: "Joseph H. Horton" Subject: Re: corvaircraft: Re: KR> Photo of the week. Message-ID: <20020115.165208.-315441.0.joe.kr2s.builder@juno.com> HEY--- I just finished mounting mine this week and like the way it looks !!! Joe Horton- Kr2s-45% On Mon, 14 Jan 2002 20:43:04 -0500 "Daniel Heath" writes: > ===============================CorvAIRCRAFT============================== = > Mark, > > Looks real good. I am amazed at how good a Dragonfly looks on a KR > and how > bad a KR looks on a KR. > > Daniel R. Heath > > WWW.EAA242.ORG > > See our KR2 at: > > www.JerryMahurin.com > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Robert Stone" > To: "Mark Jones" ; "CorvAIRCRAFT" > ; "KR-Net" > Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2002 3:25 PM > Subject: Re: KR> Photo of the week. > > > > Mark: It looks good so far. > > > > Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Tx > > rlspjs@dashlink.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Mark Jones" > > To: "CorvAIRCRAFT" ; "KR-Net" > > > Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2002 11:33 AM > > Subject: KR> Photo of the week. > > > > > > > My first photo of the week is now on my web site. I will post a > new one > > > every Sunday. > > > http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html > > > This will show my progress on a weekly basis. Hope you enjoy > them. > > > -- > > > Mark Jones (N886MJ) > > > Wales, WI USA > > > E-mail me at mailto:flykr2s@execpc.com > > > Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at > > > http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply > all" > > > > > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > > > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > > > > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply > all" > > > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ > > > > ===============================CorvAIRCRAFT============================== = > To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe corvaircraft" > to"majordomo@usm.edu" > For help send "info corvaircraft" or "help" to > "majordomo@usm.edu" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 15:20:43 -0500 To: mike@wolftreeinc.com From: virgnvs@juno.com Cc: krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> epoxy Message-ID: <20020115.173743.-285899.8.virgnvs@juno.com> Thats part of it, Try washing the apron you wear while sanding, Virg On Sat, 12 Jan 2002 23:50:03 -0500 "Mike" writes: > Anyone know what the symptoms of epoxy allergy is, and can the dust > cause trouble? ( like itching) I did some sanding ( lots) and i > never had any trouble b4 but tonight , ARRRRRRRRRGGGGGGHHHHHHH ! I > am itchin like crazy ! > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 15:00:35 -0500 To: tonysoldano@prodigy.net From: virgnvs@juno.com Cc: krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> kr>sun-n-fun Message-ID: <20020115.173743.-285899.7.virgnvs@juno.com> There should be plenty! HOWEVER, weather and distance keep many from showing. Come on guys, the forum is Tu am and dinner Tu pm, Virg On Fri, 11 Jan 2002 21:31:37 -0800 "ANTHONY SOLDANO" writes: > This might be a little pre mature.Sun-n-Fun is just three months > away,I go every year and there are very few if any Kr's present.I > haven't been able to get to the gatherings to see a kr in person so > I look very hard at sun-n-fun for them.Without beating around the > bush anymore,are any of you guys thinking of attending?and if so > what days? > > Thanks Tony > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 18:44:11 -0500 To: "krnet" From: "Daniel Heath" Subject: Re: KR> elevator thoughts Message-ID: <002d01c19e1e$891421d0$992e5d0c@scana.com> This looks like an easy retro-fit. I would like to wait till after the weight and balance to see if the craft could handle that much weight in the tail. The corvair guys probably don't have a problem with it and with the increased speed are probably more prone to need it. Daniel R. Heath WWW.EAA242.ORG See our KR2 at: www.JerryMahurin.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Philip J. Visconti" To: Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 12:43 PM Subject: Re: KR> elevator thoughts > Dan, > > Steve said that he 'glassed the elevator and stabilizer together at outer > edge. Then cut the stab. and weighted the cut section for balance. He > didn't know actual weight but figured about 8 or 9 pounds. He figured > "arm" should have been longer to eliminate some weight. He said that > putting the weight inside would have been better. Similar to Mark's ? I > like the internal better. Wish I had done it. > > Attached 2 photos of mine. One shows where I used a short piece of > aluminium to hold elev to stab. (Ruler, on side, is for reference only.) > Holes in rod were for flox and lead weight. Total weight (including rods) > was 4 lbs. > > Phil ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 23:57:16 -0000 To: "Daniel Heath" , "krnet" From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Hafsteinn_J=F3nasson?= Subject: Re: KR> elevator thoughts Message-ID: <002501c19e20$5cda5880$4bdd1ed4@c0g3t9> But what about pushing the engine just little more forward to balance that extra weight in the tail ( for those with small engines)? Hafsteinn Jónasson, Iceland hafstj@li.is ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel Heath" To: "krnet" Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 11:44 PM Subject: Re: KR> elevator thoughts > This looks like an easy retro-fit. I would like to wait till after the > weight and balance to see if the craft could handle that much weight in the > tail. The corvair guys probably don't have a problem with it and with the > increased speed are probably more prone to need it. > > Daniel R. Heath > > WWW.EAA242.ORG > > See our KR2 at: > > www.JerryMahurin.com > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Philip J. Visconti" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 12:43 PM > Subject: Re: KR> elevator thoughts > > > > Dan, > > > > Steve said that he 'glassed the elevator and stabilizer together at outer > > edge. Then cut the stab. and weighted the cut section for balance. He > > didn't know actual weight but figured about 8 or 9 pounds. He figured > > "arm" should have been longer to eliminate some weight. He said that > > putting the weight inside would have been better. Similar to Mark's ? I > > like the internal better. Wish I had done it. > > > > Attached 2 photos of mine. One shows where I used a short piece of > > aluminium to hold elev to stab. (Ruler, on side, is for reference only.) > > Holes in rod were for flox and lead weight. Total weight (including rods) > > was 4 lbs. > > > > Phil > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 18:00:31 -0700 To: "KR-net" From: "BillStarrs" Subject: Fw: VIRUS ALERT Gigger or JS/Gigger.a@MM Message-ID: <001a01c19e29$32d433e0$02defea9@bstarrs> ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01C19DEE.85F83CA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable FW: VIRUS ALERT Gigger or JS/Gigger.a@MM ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Jane Kosco=20 To: Bill Starrs=20 Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 10:11 AM Subject: FW: VIRUS ALERT Gigger or JS/Gigger.a@MM ---------- From: "mmmc" Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 09:46:48 -0700 To: "Jana Kosco" Subject: Fw: VIRUS ALERT Gigger or JS/Gigger.a@MM This is legimate. I checked it on the website that tells whether an = email is truth or fiction. You can get the fix at this URL site: http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avc enter/venc/data/js.gigger.a@mm.html I was just informed this morning that there is a new virus creating serious damage. It is called JS/Gigger.a@MM (or just Gigger) it can infect and format your hard drive and erase all your data. The Gigger email worm wants you to believe your receiving an upgrade from Microsoft MSN if open the file MMSN_OFFLINE.HTM. DO NOT open this attachment !! As I have said before, be cautious opening emails in which you do not know the sender. Thank you, Johnathan Leviste E-Media Administrator 4 Thomas Irvine, CA 92618 jleviste@bivar.com 949-951-8808 x151 ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01C19DEE.85F83CA0-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 19:12:44 -0800 (PST) To: "dene.collett" , Krnet From: David Hartz Subject: KR>WING TEMPLATES Message-ID: <20020116031244.48987.qmail@web14702.mail.yahoo.com> DOES ANYONE HAVE TEMPLATES FOR THE FOAM RIBS?FOR THE STANDARD KR2 OUTER WING. RSVP-ASAP THANKS DAVE > ===== DAVID HARTZ,WILLITS,CALIF. DEWRENCHER@PRODIGY.NET __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 12:45:31 +0200 To: From: "Serge VIDAL" Subject: Seat backrest attachment to the rear spar Message-ID: <005601c19e7b$0e8d6cc0$c504a8c0@sergevateint> ------=_NextPart_000_0053_01C19E8B.AF270FA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am changing for the third time my seat backrest fitting, to try to = find a solution for adjustable seat backrests. This time, I would like = to try to hold them to the rear spar., as follows: - For each backrest, I will make two U-shaped brackets that will pinch = the spar box from the top=20 - The brackets will be made of steel, about 1 inch wide and 1/8 inch = thick. - The brackets will have two 8mm screws each, pointing up. - The bottom of the seat backrest will have two flat steel pieces, = suitably angled, with a series of holes. These steel pieces will also be = 1 inch x 1/8 inch. - To adjust the seat backrest, one will have to put it in place with the = correct holes facing the screws, then screw it in place with butterfly = nuts. Any comments? Serge VIDAL KR2 ZS-WEC Johannesburg, South Africa ------=_NextPart_000_0053_01C19E8B.AF270FA0-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 16:48:09 +0200 To: From: "Serge VIDAL" Subject: Fw: KR> Seat backrest attachment to the rear spar Message-ID: <000b01c19e9c$f11422c0$c504a8c0@sergevateint> ----- Original Message ----- From: Serge VIDAL To: Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 2:54 PM Subject: Re: KR> Seat backrest attachment to the rear spar > Well, the problem is that it is the other way round: I am shorter than > average. So, if I don't make the seats adjustable, I would have to place my > seat forward, and the passenger seat backward. Which would look strange. > Also, suppose I want to sell the thing one day... > > If I asked for opinions, it is obviously because I, too, do not feel too > comfortable with it. But I would like to avoid drilling in the spar. > > Serge > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Daniel Heath > To: Serge VIDAL > Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 1:14 PM > Subject: Re: KR> Seat backrest attachment to the rear spar > > > > Serge, > > > > I am sure you have a good reason for wanting to do this, but who else > other > > than yourself, flies your plane and how often? Why not just carry a few > > extra pillows in the passenger seat and use those when you need them. I > > would not like all that hardware back there. > > > > Daniel R. Heath > > > > WWW.EAA242.ORG > > > > See our KR2 at: > > > > www.JerryMahurin.com > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Serge VIDAL" > > To: > > Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 5:45 AM > > Subject: KR> Seat backrest attachment to the rear spar > > > > > > I am changing for the third time my seat backrest fitting, to try to find > a > > solution for adjustable seat backrests. This time, I would like to try to > > hold them to the rear spar., as follows: > > > > - For each backrest, I will make two U-shaped brackets that will pinch the > > spar box from the top > > - The brackets will be made of steel, about 1 inch wide and 1/8 inch > thick. > > - The brackets will have two 8mm screws each, pointing up. > > - The bottom of the seat backrest will have two flat steel pieces, > suitably > > angled, with a series of holes. These steel pieces will also be 1 inch x > 1/8 > > inch. > > - To adjust the seat backrest, one will have to put it in place with the > > correct holes facing the screws, then screw it in place with butterfly > nuts. > > > > Any comments? > > > > Serge VIDAL > > KR2 ZS-WEC > > Johannesburg, South Africa > > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 11:18:31 -0800 To: , "Serge VIDAL" From: "Peter Johnson" Subject: Re: KR> Seat backrest attachment to the rear spar Message-ID: <038101c19ecf$95ec6140$aca5e2d1@peter> Hi Serge. Though I like your idea for making the seat back adjustable, I have to say that I don't think it's a good idea (just my opnion you understand). The seat back is a major load carrying/load distributing web that keeps the cockpit area of the fuse intact in the event of a bad bangup. The two or four bolts you intend to use to tie the seatback to the spar can carry the loads imposed during a crash I'm sure, but the fact that the seat back is in effect loose, precludes it from providing any necessary rigidity to the entire structure. And that rigidity is vital to keeping you intact. If you were to bond a fixed load carrying web in place as per plans, then you could include an adjustable seat back and have the best of both. On my KR-2Sexy, which is 10% longer and deeper than a stock KR-2S, I'm going to accomodate changes in pilot/passenger height by simply adding/removing cushions that will be held in place with velcro. The cushions will be light of course, and I can always take them with me on a x-country flight if the plane will see different people flying and riding in it. Hope this helps. mailto:pjohnson@voyageur.ca Subject: KR> Seat backrest attachment to the rear spar I am changing for the third time my seat backrest fitting, to try to find a solution for adjustable seat backrests. This time, I would like to try to hold them to the rear spar., as follows: - For each backrest, I will make two U-shaped brackets that will pinch the spar box from the top - The brackets will be made of steel, about 1 inch wide and 1/8 inch thick. - The brackets will have two 8mm screws each, pointing up. - The bottom of the seat backrest will have two flat steel pieces, suitably angled, with a series of holes. These steel pieces will also be 1 inch x 1/8 inch. - To adjust the seat backrest, one will have to put it in place with the correct holes facing the screws, then screw it in place with butterfly nuts. Any comments? Serge VIDAL KR2 ZS-WEC Johannesburg, South Africa ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 19:15:44 -0600 To: , , "Serge VIDAL" From: Subject: Re: KR> Seat backrest attachment to the rear spar Message-ID: <002101c19ef4$7e1070a0$e611f8d1@matandcat> Serge, A freind of mine that owns a go-cart business gave me a go-cart seat made of molded plastic that is very comfortable and fits my tush to a T. It was too heavy so I took my skill saw to it and cut it all the way arround and pulled it apart. This reduced the weight quite a bit and still had the contour I was after. What I found when I cut it into it was a very smooth interior that I can use as a mold to make a glass lay up from and reduce the weight even more. I haven't decided what I'm going to do from that point but I would think one could glass something to the bottem of the seat like a box beam made of foam and glass that would be quite strong and light in weight. Something that would fit between the front spar and rear spar and be able to slide the seat/seats up and down as necessary. these box beams would also tie the front spar to the back spar and help distribute the loads between them. This could be quite usefull in the event of a crash. The seat/seats/boxbeams would help transfer loads exerted by seat belts between the front and rear spars assuming the seatbelts are attached to the rear spar and help to hold the cockpit area of the aircraft together. The idea here is to allow the rest of the structure to come apart and dissipate the engery of the crash. Of course this is only a theory of mine and is dependent on other circumstances of a hypothetical crash. Just some ideas to kick arround. Mike T. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Serge VIDAL" To: Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 4:45 AM Subject: KR> Seat backrest attachment to the rear spar I am changing for the third time my seat backrest fitting, to try to find a solution for adjustable seat backrests. This time, I would like to try to hold them to the rear spar., as follows: - For each backrest, I will make two U-shaped brackets that will pinch the spar box from the top - The brackets will be made of steel, about 1 inch wide and 1/8 inch thick. - The brackets will have two 8mm screws each, pointing up. - The bottom of the seat backrest will have two flat steel pieces, suitably angled, with a series of holes. These steel pieces will also be 1 inch x 1/8 inch. - To adjust the seat backrest, one will have to put it in place with the correct holes facing the screws, then screw it in place with butterfly nuts. Any comments? Serge VIDAL KR2 ZS-WEC Johannesburg, South Africa ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 09:28:10 -0600 To: "KRnet" From: "norm-ruth" Subject: Pictures Message-ID: <002101c19ea2$6a32f6e0$061dd03f@d5b8c8> ------=_NextPart_000_001E_01C19E70.1D23DD60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dene, thanks for the turtle deck pictures. Could you provide a brief = explanation of how you laid up the foam in the formers? =20 Thank you. Norm ------=_NextPart_000_001E_01C19E70.1D23DD60-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 22:02:08 +0200 To: From: "Serge VIDAL" Subject: The seats issue Message-ID: <000a01c19ec8$d61f2e20$c504a8c0@sergevateint> ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C19ED9.71292BE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have been tryig to solve that seat problem for one year. I believe = that comfort contributes a lot to safety, so I will never be happy with = piling up cushions behind my back. I am not too sure what the plans call for as far as the seats are = concerned. What was installed in that KR2 when I bought it was a web of = Nylon belts to support a seat bottom cushion, and two thin sheets of = plywood fitted between the rear spar and the baggage shelf, resting on = dedicated ribs, to support the backrest cushion. So far, on other KRs, I have seen the same layout, except that the = plywood sheets were hinged on the rear spar. There is also a local composite manufacturer (Peter Eich), that makes = molded seat backrests for the KR2. They have a long, flat piece at the = bottom that allows to fit them to the rear spar the way you like. They = are also designed to rest on the baggage shelf. I have ordered a pair, = and I can't wait to receive it. But in the meantime, I am looking for a = temporary solution. What I have done so far was to put a lot of cushions behind my back. = Then, I tried to make a more permanent solution by building sturdy = fiberglass seat backrests. I then tried to make a system to "hang" them = from the baggage shelf. Did not work. So, I now try to clamp them to the = rear spar instead. Maybe I'm going overboard. Serge VIDAL KR2 ZS-WEC Johannesburg, South Africa =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C19ED9.71292BE0-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 20:33:02 -0600 To: "Serge VIDAL" , From: "Pat Driscoll" Subject: Re: KR> The seats issue Message-ID: <004301c19eff$4a563fa0$79dc6843@oemcomputer> Serge, KISS ----- Original Message ----- From: Serge VIDAL To: Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 2:02 PM Subject: KR> The seats issue I have been tryig to solve that seat problem for one year. I believe that comfort contributes a lot to safety, so I will never be happy with piling up cushions behind my back. I am not too sure what the plans call for as far as the seats are concerned. What was installed in that KR2 when I bought it was a web of Nylon belts to support a seat bottom cushion, and two thin sheets of plywood fitted between the rear spar and the baggage shelf, resting on dedicated ribs, to support the backrest cushion. So far, on other KRs, I have seen the same layout, except that the plywood sheets were hinged on the rear spar. There is also a local composite manufacturer (Peter Eich), that makes molded seat backrests for the KR2. They have a long, flat piece at the bottom that allows to fit them to the rear spar the way you like. They are also designed to rest on the baggage shelf. I have ordered a pair, and I can't wait to receive it. But in the meantime, I am looking for a temporary solution. What I have done so far was to put a lot of cushions behind my back. Then, I tried to make a more permanent solution by building sturdy fiberglass seat backrests. I then tried to make a system to "hang" them from the baggage shelf. Did not work. So, I now try to clamp them to the rear spar instead. Maybe I'm going overboard. Serge VIDAL KR2 ZS-WEC Johannesburg, South Africa ------ http://USFamily.Net/info - Unlimited Internet - From $8.99/mo! ------ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 22:59:46 -0700 To: "'Serge VIDAL'" , From: "Rick Hubka" Subject: RE: makes molded seat backrests for the KR2. Message-ID: <41ED2F1280124E4D8B88691C9A9B5FDE1933@mail.binoids.com> Hi Serge and all >> There is also a local composite manufacturer (Peter Eich), that makes molded seat backrests for the KR2. Is is there a web site of pictures available of this molded KR2 seat backrest. I plan on making my own via the M.L. method. :) But I'm always intersested looking into saving time (which I don't seem to have for the last 2 years) Thanks Rick Hubka rick@hubka.com http://www.hubka.com Calgary, Alberta, Canada -----Original Message----- From: Serge VIDAL [mailto:svidal@icon.co.za] Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 1:02 PM To: krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: KR> The seats issue I have been tryig to solve that seat problem for one year. I believe that comfort contributes a lot to safety, so I will never be happy with piling up cushions behind my back. I am not too sure what the plans call for as far as the seats are concerned. What was installed in that KR2 when I bought it was a web of Nylon belts to support a seat bottom cushion, and two thin sheets of plywood fitted between the rear spar and the baggage shelf, resting on dedicated ribs, to support the backrest cushion. So far, on other KRs, I have seen the same layout, except that the plywood sheets were hinged on the rear spar. There is also a local composite manufacturer (Peter Eich), that makes molded seat backrests for the KR2. They have a long, flat piece at the bottom that allows to fit them to the rear spar the way you like. They are also designed to rest on the baggage shelf. I have ordered a pair, and I can't wait to receive it. But in the meantime, I am looking for a temporary solution. What I have done so far was to put a lot of cushions behind my back. Then, I tried to make a more permanent solution by building sturdy fiberglass seat backrests. I then tried to make a system to "hang" them from the baggage shelf. Did not work. So, I now try to clamp them to the rear spar instead. Maybe I'm going overboard. Serge VIDAL KR2 ZS-WEC Johannesburg, South Africa ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 06:54:26 -0500 To: From: "Daniel Heath" Subject: Re: KR> RE: makes molded seat backrests for the KR2. Message-ID: <001601c19f4d$b71b1c70$252c5d0c@scana.com> There are composite seats on our site, that we made. Might give you some ideas. Daniel R. Heath WWW.EAA242.ORG See our KR2 at: www.JerryMahurin.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Hubka" To: "'Serge VIDAL'" ; Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 12:59 AM Subject: KR> RE: makes molded seat backrests for the KR2. > Hi Serge and all > > >> There is also a local composite manufacturer (Peter Eich), that makes > molded seat backrests for the KR2. > > Is is there a web site of pictures available of this molded KR2 seat > backrest. I plan on making my own via the M.L. method. :) But I'm > always intersested looking into saving time (which I don't seem to have > for the last 2 years) > > Thanks > > Rick Hubka > rick@hubka.com > http://www.hubka.com > Calgary, Alberta, Canada > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Serge VIDAL [mailto:svidal@icon.co.za] > Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 1:02 PM > To: krnet@mailinglists.org > Subject: KR> The seats issue > > > I have been tryig to solve that seat problem for one year. I believe > that comfort contributes a lot to safety, so I will never be happy with > piling up cushions behind my back. > > I am not too sure what the plans call for as far as the seats are > concerned. What was installed in that KR2 when I bought it was a web of > Nylon belts to support a seat bottom cushion, and two thin sheets of > plywood fitted between the rear spar and the baggage shelf, resting on > dedicated ribs, to support the backrest cushion. > > So far, on other KRs, I have seen the same layout, except that the > plywood sheets were hinged on the rear spar. > > There is also a local composite manufacturer (Peter Eich), that makes > molded seat backrests for the KR2. They have a long, flat piece at the > bottom that allows to fit them to the rear spar the way you like. They > are also designed to rest on the baggage shelf. I have ordered a pair, > and I can't wait to receive it. But in the meantime, I am looking for a > temporary solution. > > What I have done so far was to put a lot of cushions behind my back. > Then, I tried to make a more permanent solution by building sturdy > fiberglass seat backrests. I then tried to make a system to "hang" them > from the baggage shelf. Did not work. So, I now try to clamp them to the > rear spar instead. > > Maybe I'm going overboard. > > Serge VIDAL > KR2 ZS-WEC > Johannesburg, South Africa > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 11:31:30 -0500 To: "KRNET" , "Bob Wetzel" From: "RONALD.FREIBERGER" Subject: Wheel Pant needed, and How to Subscribe Message-ID: My freind, Bob Wetzel, has damaged his nose wheel pant in a landind incident, and would like to negotiate purchase of a new one, or the loan of a pattern. He's at rdwx2@webtv.net. Also, Bob would like to subscribe to the net, but I can't find the instructions on how to do so. Could someonre please remind of as to how this is done? Ron Freiberger... mailto:ron.martha@mindspring.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 19:21:33 +0000 (US/Eastern) To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: flykr2s@execpc.com Cc: "Harmónia Stúdió Bt." Subject: Fwd: KR-2 plans Message-Id: <20020117192133.97E9917C7E@nm3.voyager.net> Hey guys, I answered this gentlemans request as best as I could. I thought some of you would like to e-mail him and welcome him to the KR family. I do not think he is on the KR Net e-mail list yet. Mark Jones ---- Forwarded message from Harmónia Stúdió Bt. ---- Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 18:48:21 +0100 From: Harmónia Stúdió Bt. To: Subject: KR-2 plans Hello Mark, The homebuilt movement starts up now in Hungary. I've chosen the KR-2 aircraft for building from the several models available. I've also contacted the manufacturer Rand Robinson Engineering, called them on the phone, sent them faxes and letters, etc., but there was no response at all. Do you know anything about them? Did they go bankrupt or are they still in the business? Also, could you please help me get the plans of the KR-2? I've also tried the barnstormers website, but couldn't get any help yet. The krnet website is the same, it only contains outdated information. Your website seemed the most up to date in the KR-subject, so that's why I ask for your help. Regards, Laszló Szakács, hopeful KR-2 builder ------ End forwarded message ------ ------------------------------ End of krnet Digest ***********************************