From: To: Subject: krnet Digest 28 Mar 2002 02:47:10 -0000 Issue 398 Date: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 6:47 PM krnet Digest 28 Mar 2002 02:47:10 -0000 Issue 398 Topics (messages 9388 through 9417): Re: Jeff Yorks's new beauty 9388 by: Mark Jones piano hinges 9389 by: Tim Brown 9390 by: larry flesner 9395 by: Dana Overall R/V versus KR's 9391 by: Paul Gangemi 9399 by: Daniel Heath KR Links and Contacts 9392 by: Frank Ross 9393 by: Frank Ross boat sides 9394 by: Tony Alderman 9398 by: Daniel Heath 9400 by: Darren Pond 9401 by: Dana Overall 9403 by: mike 9404 by: Mark Langford 9405 by: Mark Langford 9407 by: rick dechau 9413 by: Eduardo José Jankosz 9414 by: Daniel Heath Teledyne Engine 9396 by: Larry A. Capps 9397 by: Jan Laan 9408 by: virgnvs.juno.com 9411 by: Linda farmer 9415 by: David Mullins 9416 by: Linda farmer PROP,PROPS AND PROPS 9402 by: Leonardoadrenalina Removing Corrosion 9406 by: Frank Ross Dr Dean 9409 by: hommevolant.sympatico.ca Re: Prop size for 2700 Corvair motor 9410 by: Philip J. Visconti Landing Gear Options 9412 by: Peter Johnson from argentina 9417 by: faby Administrivia: To subscribe to the digest, e-mail: To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail: To post to the list, e-mail: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 21:41:47 -0600 To: "Jeff York" , , From: "Mark Jones" Subject: Re: KR> Jeff Yorks's new beauty Message-ID: <007f01c1d478$28472600$07991f41@wi.rr.com> Jeff, You are definitely a member of the KR family now and I would like to personally welcome you. You have purchased a beautiful KR and if the craftsmanship in any way resembles the finish, then you have an exceptional bird. I have a featured page on my web site for your plane under Flying KR's. Again, welcome aboard!!! Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff York" To: ; Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 9:31 PM Subject: Re: KR> Jeff Yorks's new beauty > Thanks for the advise, having come from the north and not seeing the pavment > through the snow from from flight lesson number one until the day I took my > check ride at 41 hours and sign off at 43 flight hours, I am used to the > snowing freezing weather. > > I want to thank Dana for coming over to help me check over the fuel systems > and other things. > > I have had a passion for KR's for a number of years and hope that even > though I did not build this one myself that you will except me. > > I look forward to the advice that you seasoned and experienced KR people can > give me and I hope to be able to join many of you at fly in's. > > By the way the KR has a custom made cover that covers it from the prop past > the canopy. It's colored to match the purple waves on the side, That and the > hanger should keep out most of the freezing weather. > > Jeff > > > >From: Mauryhuntr@aol.com > >To: KRNet@mailinglists.org > >Subject: KR> Jeff Yorks's new beauty > >Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 11:51:41 EST > > > >Picky picky. comment from the snowbelt. The streamlined top lock location > >would appear to be a no/dew-frost-ice-32degree country design. (Though > >Boston > >certainlly isn't.) On the other hand, it certainly is located where the sun > >do shine and it never did shine on the seemingly always north side of my > >plane. > > > >If you fly north, Jeff, just don't lock your plane..........Maury Hunter > > > > > >PS: My wife would have taken a frozen lock as a bad omen and "please don't > >fly", so don't take a chance on missing a good cold spring or fall day in > >sunny sky. > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 19:57:51 -0800 (PST) To: Group KR NET From: Tim Brown Subject: piano hinges Message-ID: <20020326035751.74114.qmail@web9507.mail.yahoo.com> I don't see anywhere in the manual or plans where it says what size piano hinge to use for stock built ailerons. What are you "stock" guys using. Tim __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Movies - coverage of the 74th Academy Awards® http://movies.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 08:20:09 -0600 To: From: larry flesner Subject: Re: KR> piano hinges Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20020326082009.00905100@mail.midwest.net> At 07:57 PM 3/25/02 -0800, Tim Brown wrote: >I don't see anywhere in the manual or plans where >it says what size piano hinge to use for stock >built ailerons. What are you "stock" guys using. >Tim +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Wicks catalog , in the KR listing, hinge kit, list the part number as MS20001-P5 which is on page 111 of the catalog. The " P5 " is the 1 3/4" extruded hinge. You need the two 72" pieces but not the 36" piece if you don't use it to mount your rudder pedals. I'd suggest using nylon blocks to mount the petals. A good cheap source for blocks is cutting boards in the kitchen section of your favorite retail store. Larry Flesner ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 07:09:58 -0500 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: "Dana Overall" Subject: Re: KR> piano hinges Message-ID: Check this nice looking baby out. http://cgi.aol.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1815361886 Man, someone has got to be able to find a use for this nice looking thing. Dana Overall Richmond, KY _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 09:46:10 -0500 (EST) To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: paulwasp@webtv.net (Paul Gangemi) Subject: R/V versus KR's Message-ID: <23126-3CA089B2-7380@storefull-162.iap.bryant.webtv.net> Not all of the R/V crowd look down on us lowly KR' ers. There's a R/V6 builder/owner here in our local EAA chapter 163 who is very encouraging toward me and my KR2s. We had a "gray eagles" day her last summer for us earth bound old-timers, re; (grey eagles) and he took me for a ride in his baby...even allowed me a straight and level, and a few tentative banks. The impression I got was that will probably be about the same "feel' that a KR2s will have. An enjoyable experience, and much appreciated. Just my 2 cents. Paul Gangemi KR2s about 40% Erie, PA paulwasp@wbtv.net PLG ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 06:16:53 -0800 To: From: "Daniel Heath" Subject: RE: KR> R/V versus KR's Message-ID: We have a large chapter here, over 300. It is like RV city. In the two hangars next door to our Clubhouse ( The end hangar fully equipped inside ) there are 3 RV's being built. I have found that among the builder members, the RV people are the most understanding and encouraging of my building KRs. Daniel R. Heath WWW.EAA242.ORG See our KR2 at: www.JerryMahurin.com --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.325 / Virus Database: 182 - Release Date: 2/19/2002 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 09:03:04 -0800 (PST) To: aceracing@coastalnet.com From: Frank Ross Cc: KRNet Subject: KR Links and Contacts Message-ID: <20020326170304.5112.qmail@web14005.mail.yahoo.com> Kenny, Don Reid's web-page and address are at: http://users.erols.com/donreid/kr_page.htm You can't do better than Mark Langford's KRNet Page at: http://fly.hiwaay.net/~langford/kr2s.html with most KR Links. Put it in your "Favorites" File Although Mark Jones' and Dan Heath and Jerry Mahurin's sites are newer, they also have many good links and are well worth viewing. Mark Jones: http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/photo.html Dan and Jerry: http://airplanefactory.homestead.com/files/ Welcome and we look forward to hearing more from you. ===== Frank Ross, San Antonio, TX, __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Movies - coverage of the 74th Academy Awards® http://movies.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 09:21:07 -0800 (PST) To: KRNet From: Frank Ross Subject: KR Links and Contacts Message-ID: <20020326172107.40256.qmail@web14001.mail.yahoo.com> Sorry, I gave you the web address for Mark Jones' "Photo of the Week" for this week. His web page address is: http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html Also, the address I gave for Dan and Jerry's page is good but their home page is: http://airplanefactory.homestead.com These will get you started anyway, Frank __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Movies - coverage of the 74th Academy Awards® http://movies.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 22:20:23 -0800 To: , "larry flesner" From: "Tony Alderman" Subject: boat sides Message-ID: <001901c1d557$7afda9c0$48ec2104@computer> Has anyone ever used 1/2" foam glass sandwich for the boat sides and bottom? Would it work? Just wondering....... Tony Tony Alderman Durham NC t-hawk@mindspring.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 06:11:27 -0800 To: From: "Daniel Heath" Subject: RE: KR> boat sides Message-ID: I think that it would work. I have never heard of anyone doing it. My thought on it is, why would anyone want more glass work to do. I think that one way to make KR construction better would be to add in some metal work. Then you would have wood, glass and metal. I found that the wood was much easier to finish than the glass and that is the one part of the plane that you can use colors on because the wood isn't affected by the heat as much as the glass is. Daniel R. Heath WWW.EAA242.ORG See our KR2 at: www.JerryMahurin.com --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.325 / Virus Database: 182 - Release Date: 2/19/2002 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 06:44:55 -0800 To: "Tony Alderman" , "krnet" From: "Darren Pond" Subject: Re: KR> boat sides Message-ID: <000801c1d59d$f64b5b40$5f047218@cambr.phub.net.cable.rogers.com> Yes a few people have spoke of it and at least two builders have done it. I think it was Tracey O'Brian that did a lot of research on the topic. Search the old emails on the topic. I recall visiting a builder web site that did this. Darren ----- Original Message ----- From: Tony Alderman To: ; larry flesner Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 10:20 PM Subject: KR> boat sides > Has anyone ever used 1/2" foam glass sandwich for the boat sides and bottom? > Would it work? Just wondering....... Tony > > Tony Alderman > Durham NC > t-hawk@mindspring.com > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 06:53:33 -0500 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: "Dana Overall" Subject: Re: KR> boat sides Message-ID: Dr. Dean did it. Also, there is a picture of another one on Mark Langford's site from the Ark. gathering, listed as Area51. Dana Overall rvflying.tripod.com >From: "Darren Pond" >To: "Tony Alderman" , "krnet" > >Subject: Re: KR> boat sides >Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 06:44:55 -0800 > >Yes a few people have spoke of it and at least two builders have done it. >I >think it was Tracey O'Brian that did a lot of research on the topic. >Search >the old emails on the topic. I recall visiting a builder web site that did >this. >Darren >----- Original Message ----- >From: Tony Alderman >To: ; larry flesner >Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 10:20 PM >Subject: KR> boat sides > > > > Has anyone ever used 1/2" foam glass sandwich for the boat sides and >bottom? > > Would it work? Just wondering....... Tony > > > > Tony Alderman > > Durham NC > > t-hawk@mindspring.com > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ > > > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > >To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org >For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > >See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ > _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 07:54:37 -0500 To: From: "mike" Subject: RE: boat sides Message-ID: <004001c1d58e$8d60fae0$6400a8c0@wolftreeinc.com> ------=_NextPart_000_003D_01C1D564.A4402E40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable saw a site were a guy was building his "boat" different, the bottom and = sides were not a 90 deg joint but a radius. anyone remember seeing this = kr?=20 ------=_NextPart_000_003D_01C1D564.A4402E40-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 07:11:30 -0600 To: From: "Mark Langford" Subject: Re: KR> RE: boat sides Message-ID: <002901c1d590$ea113e10$5f0ca58c@mlangford> Mike wrote: >>saw a site were a guy was building his "boat" different, the bottom and sides were not a 90 deg joint but a radius. anyone remember seeing this kr?<< Like Dana mentioned, you might be thinking of Dr. Dean's fuselage ( http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/columbia/fuse1.jpg ). Although he saved a few pounds, and made a much stronger "boat" (you can jump up and down on the floor and not fall through), I think he'd be quick to tell you that it was a real pain to do, and cost him several hundred extra hours. I think I remember seeing another one under construction somewhere since then though. Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL mailto:langford@hiwaay.net see KR2S project at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 07:19:36 -0600 To: From: "Mark Langford" Subject: Re: KR> RE: boat sides Message-ID: <000801c1d592$0bd2a420$5f0ca58c@mlangford> ...and after looking at the wooden stringers between the crossmembers in http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/columbia/fuse2.jpg , I know WHY he could jump up and down on the floor! Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL mailto:langford@hiwaay.net see KR2S project at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 10:42:43 -0500 To: "Mark Langford" , From: "rick dechau" <1972@frontiernet.net> Subject: Re: KR> RE: boat sides Message-ID: <001d01c1d5a6$09376fc0$bab0d440@frontiernet.net> Looks like a lot of extra work, but he will have a KR like no other has. That is part of experimental. Mark I have read your entire web page and printed part of it. There is a ton of info there for every one. I have received my planes but not yet started a thing. I am getting my shop in order. I hope to start by the end of April. I need to widen the boat because I am wide at the shoulders, but only have a 34" waist. I have read on your web page on how to do this and get the top longeron straight . I did not fully understand this but probly will after I open the drawings and read the manual. Also I know I want to make it longer than the planes say for the 2S but you really don't say how long with the new rib profile.I will use the stock tail width like you had said , but with the new profile ribs for the horz. Any help would be great RICK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Langford" To: Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 8:19 AM Subject: Re: KR> RE: boat sides > ...and after looking at the wooden stringers between the crossmembers in > http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/columbia/fuse2.jpg , I know WHY he could > jump up and down on the floor! > > Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL > mailto:langford@hiwaay.net > see KR2S project at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 21:55:18 -0300 To: "Mark Langford" , From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Eduardo_Jos=E9_Jankosz?=" Subject: Re: KR> RE: boat sides Message-Id: <200203280105.g2S159G01068@cwbone.bsi.com.br> Hi, guys! I drawn all stations (A to N) in rounded format in Autocad! And I mounted it in 3D. The general appearance is good! And I think to make all fuselage entire , in fiberglass or carbon fiber, over only a wood lamina! I made both sides down with 212 mm ray, to assent the side with the bottom, the both sides up of front deck with 150 mm ray, and an ellipse from canopy to the tail! I put about 13 longerons with 12 mm side in the largest width to format round! The rings (stations) I think make of 15mm (5/8 inch) plywood! But.........an expert in KR here in Brasil, told me that is dangerous!!!!!!!!!!!!! He told that is dangerous, because a plane with a rounded fuselage, can not recuperate easily of a spin , like a square fuselage plane! Principally the KR, that has a poor tail!!!!!!! He told me that the plane would must have a T tail, or a more efficient rudder that KR has! What do you have to tell me about? Thanks!!!! Eduardo José Jankosz jankosz@bsi.com.br http://www.bsi.com.br/cbcb Curitiba - PR - BRASIL ---------- > De: Mark Langford > Para: krnet@mailinglists.org > Assunto: Re: KR> RE: boat sides > Data: Quarta-feira, 27 de Março de 2002 10:11 > > Mike wrote: > > >>saw a site were a guy was building his "boat" different, the bottom and > sides were not a 90 deg joint but a radius. anyone remember seeing this > kr?<< > > Like Dana mentioned, you might be thinking of Dr. Dean's fuselage ( > http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/columbia/fuse1.jpg ). Although he saved a > few pounds, and made a much stronger "boat" (you can jump up and down on the > floor and not fall through), I think he'd be quick to tell you that it was a > real pain to do, and cost him several hundred extra hours. I think I > remember seeing another one under construction somewhere since then though. > > Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL > mailto:langford@hiwaay.net > see KR2S project at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 20:44:20 -0800 To: From: "Daniel Heath" Subject: RE: KR> RE: boat sides Message-ID: I found that the rudder is very effective. The KR is easy to slip, but you really don't need much rudder, because the KR is an Aileron plane. Radical changes to the design make this no longer a KR, but something of your own making. Change one thing and you have to change another. Soon, there isn't any KR left. Why not start from scratch and design the airplane that you want? Daniel R. Heath WWW.EAA242.ORG See our KR2 at: www.JerryMahurin.com --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.325 / Virus Database: 182 - Release Date: 2/19/2002 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 23:48:28 -0600 To: From: "Larry A. Capps" Subject: Teledyne Engine Message-ID: <004401c1d553$05d101f0$0400a8c0@schpankme> The engine listed below is a Teledyne 20-Horsepower Engine. It's a military surplus Teledyne 4-stroke overhead-valve engine puts out 18 to 20 horsepower and weighs just 63 pounds. Vogel's Electro Source in Milford, New Hampshire sales the surplus engines 4-cylinder 4-stroke engine dry weight of 63 pounds 32-cubic-inch (524-cc) displacement 18 to 20 horsepower stock military standard model #4A032-4 complete with: - electronic radio frequency suppression - waterproof ignition - shielded spark plugs with the standard carburetor. Vogel's Electro Source has plans and kits to safely increase power to 40 horsepower. Vogel's can also show you how to achieve further weight reduction. Parts are still readily available for the engine. A new head (complete) sells for $75, and you can reportedly rebuild the complete bottom end - rings, pistons and connecting rods - for $120. Not suitable for a KR :o) Regards, Larry A. Capps -----Original Message----- Check this nice looking baby out. http://cgi.aol.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1815361886 Man, someone has got to be able to find a use for this nice looking thing. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 21:58:28 -0800 To: lacapps@attbi.com, krnet@mailinglists.org From: Jan Laan Subject: Re: KR> Teledyne Engine Message-id: <0GTM002BTBAE3D@l-daemon> Something for a KR Twin maybe?? Jan At 11:48 PM 3/26/02 -0600, Larry A. Capps wrote: >The engine listed below is a Teledyne 20-Horsepower Engine. > >It's a military surplus Teledyne 4-stroke overhead-valve engine puts out 18 >to 20 horsepower and weighs just 63 pounds. > >Vogel's Electro Source in Milford, New Hampshire sales the surplus engines > >4-cylinder 4-stroke engine >dry weight of 63 pounds >32-cubic-inch (524-cc) displacement >18 to 20 horsepower stock >military standard model #4A032-4 > >complete with: >- electronic radio frequency suppression >- waterproof ignition >- shielded spark plugs with the standard carburetor. > >Vogel's Electro Source has plans and kits to safely increase power to 40 >horsepower. > >Vogel's can also show you how to achieve further weight reduction. > >Parts are still readily available for the engine. A new head (complete) >sells for $75, and you can reportedly rebuild the complete bottom end - >rings, pistons and connecting rods - for $120. > > >Not suitable for a KR :o) > >Regards, > >Larry A. Capps > > > >-----Original Message----- >Check this nice looking baby out. > >http://cgi.aol.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1815361886 > >Man, someone has got to be able to find a use for this nice looking thing. > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > >To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org >For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > >See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 11:19:33 -0500 To: lacapps@attbi.com From: virgnvs@juno.com Cc: krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> Teledyne Engine Message-ID: <20020327.135448.-201831.0.virgnvs@juno.com> 40 Hp OK for KR-1, Virg On Tue, 26 Mar 2002 23:48:28 -0600 "Larry A. Capps" writes: > The engine listed below is a Teledyne 20-Horsepower Engine. > > It's a military surplus Teledyne 4-stroke overhead-valve engine puts > out 18 > to 20 horsepower and weighs just 63 pounds. > > Vogel's Electro Source in Milford, New Hampshire sales the surplus > engines > > 4-cylinder 4-stroke engine > dry weight of 63 pounds > 32-cubic-inch (524-cc) displacement > 18 to 20 horsepower stock > military standard model #4A032-4 > > complete with: > - electronic radio frequency suppression > - waterproof ignition > - shielded spark plugs with the standard carburetor. > > Vogel's Electro Source has plans and kits to safely increase power > to 40 > horsepower. > > Vogel's can also show you how to achieve further weight reduction. > > Parts are still readily available for the engine. A new head > (complete) > sells for $75, and you can reportedly rebuild the complete bottom > end - > rings, pistons and connecting rods - for $120. > > > Not suitable for a KR :o) > > Regards, > > Larry A. Capps > > > > -----Original Message----- > Check this nice looking baby out. > > http://cgi.aol.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1815361 886 > > Man, someone has got to be able to find a use for this nice looking > thing. > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply > all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 16:53:56 -0500 To: From: "Linda farmer" Cc: Subject: Re: KR> Teledyne Engine Message-ID: <003e01c1d5d9$e5a50020$595e62d8@oemcomputer> Been to Milford NH on all the yellowpages & the Milford community site, can not find Vogel's in Milford or NH for that matter any ideas? Bob Farmer ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry A. Capps" To: Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 12:48 AM Subject: KR> Teledyne Engine > The engine listed below is a Teledyne 20-Horsepower Engine. > > It's a military surplus Teledyne 4-stroke overhead-valve engine puts out 18 > to 20 horsepower and weighs just 63 pounds. > > Vogel's Electro Source in Milford, New Hampshire sales the surplus engines > > 4-cylinder 4-stroke engine > dry weight of 63 pounds > 32-cubic-inch (524-cc) displacement > 18 to 20 horsepower stock > military standard model #4A032-4 > > complete with: > - electronic radio frequency suppression > - waterproof ignition > - shielded spark plugs with the standard carburetor. > > Vogel's Electro Source has plans and kits to safely increase power to 40 > horsepower. > > Vogel's can also show you how to achieve further weight reduction. > > Parts are still readily available for the engine. A new head (complete) > sells for $75, and you can reportedly rebuild the complete bottom end - > rings, pistons and connecting rods - for $120. > > > Not suitable for a KR :o) > > Regards, > > Larry A. Capps > > > > -----Original Message----- > Check this nice looking baby out. > > http://cgi.aol.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1815361886 > > Man, someone has got to be able to find a use for this nice looking thing. > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 20:44:44 -0500 To: Linda farmer From: David Mullins CC: lacapps@attbi.com, krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> Teledyne Engine Message-ID: <3CA2758C.3D95AD8D@attbi.com> Contact: Vogel's Electro-Source 121 Mount Vernon Street Milford, New Hampshire 03055 603-672-1762 David Vogel mailto:airheddave@yahoo.com Someone else selling the same engine still in olive drab. Dan Woodward Knight Hawke Experimental Aircraft 1217 Suncook Valley Highway Epsom, New Hampshire 03234 603-798-3136 Dave Mullins Nashua, New Hampshire Linda farmer wrote: > Been to Milford NH on all the yellowpages & the Milford community site, can > not find Vogel's in Milford or NH for that matter any ideas? > > Bob Farmer > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Larry A. Capps" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 12:48 AM > Subject: KR> Teledyne Engine > > > The engine listed below is a Teledyne 20-Horsepower Engine. > > > > It's a military surplus Teledyne 4-stroke overhead-valve engine puts out > 18 > > to 20 horsepower and weighs just 63 pounds. > > > > Vogel's Electro Source in Milford, New Hampshire sales the surplus engines > > > > 4-cylinder 4-stroke engine > > dry weight of 63 pounds > > 32-cubic-inch (524-cc) displacement > > 18 to 20 horsepower stock > > military standard model #4A032-4 > > > > complete with: > > - electronic radio frequency suppression > > - waterproof ignition > > - shielded spark plugs with the standard carburetor. > > > > Vogel's Electro Source has plans and kits to safely increase power to 40 > > horsepower. > > > > Vogel's can also show you how to achieve further weight reduction. > > > > Parts are still readily available for the engine. A new head (complete) > > sells for $75, and you can reportedly rebuild the complete bottom end - > > rings, pistons and connecting rods - for $120. > > > > > > Not suitable for a KR :o) > > > > Regards, > > > > Larry A. Capps > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > Check this nice looking baby out. > > > > > http://cgi.aol.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1815361886 > > > > Man, someone has got to be able to find a use for this nice looking thing. > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 20:35:40 -0500 To: From: "Linda farmer" Cc: Subject: Re: KR> Teledyne Engine Message-ID: <002801c1d5f8$dfcf6040$895b62d8@oemcomputer> 'Add To Outlook' Help TRY PUBLIC RECORDS! found your vogel's electro source res listing below Bob Result 1 of 1 update/remove | add listing D Vogel 121 Mont Vernon Rd Milford, NH 03055 Phone: 603-672-1762 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry A. Capps" To: "'Linda farmer'" Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 5:31 PM Subject: RE: KR> Teledyne Engine > Vogel's Electro Source, 121 Mount Vernon St., Dept. UF, Milford, NH 03055. > Fax: (603) 672-1762 * e-mail: airhedave@yahoo.com > > Larry > > > > -----Original Message----- > Been to Milford NH on all the yellowpages & the Milford community site, can > not find Vogel's in Milford or NH for that matter any ideas? > > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 09:45:34 -0300 To: "Dana Overall" , From: "Leonardoadrenalina" Subject: PROP,PROPS AND PROPS Message-ID: <002501c1d58d$49d6bf40$60b9c0c8@estacao1> Hi everyone !!! The e-mail below i have sent to Larry and has some information that i'd like to share with you guys , Leo, Brazil. http://www.geocities.com/adrenabh/KR2S_AND_THE_SPEED_BOY.html?991419385410 Hi Larry !!! First of all it's a pleasure talk to you , the prop was made here in Brazil by a guy named Rupert , that besides beeing a pilot of ultralight has good hands for props , the prop i'm using now is the 4th of a series that he made for me and it's very well finished and beautifull ,it's all wood with metal leading edges and painted in my plane colors.At full power and leveled flight the max rpms are 2500 but if put the nose down it goes to 2650 or even more. Sometimes a think people espect too much from the O-200 because of it's 100 hp but i prefer beeing more realistic , maybe beacause my plane is heavy 720lbs , but it has 3 gas tanks , is a kr2s , and the pannel is loaded , and the continental is heavier than vw's. i don't think my engine can run a 60x74 or close that and take off well with 2 people. m i right ?? Once i put a 60x62 wood prop on my kr and take off''s were fantastic but i couldn't reach 130 mph . The more confortable rpm my engine runs is 2350 , more than that noise and vibration makes the flight not so good . I hope all this information can help you and if want to ask anything else don't bee shy give me computer call .The runway i'm operating is 2000 ft long and the altitude is 3600 ft. Leo , Brazil. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 07:15:06 -0800 (PST) To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: Frank Ross Subject: Removing Corrosion Message-ID: <20020327151506.9848.qmail@web14007.mail.yahoo.com> --- "Serge F. VIDAL" wrote: > Incidentally, does anybody know what I should use to > clean the parts of the > brakes system that are corroding? (That aircraft has > lived on the coast for > 8 years, and the brakes seem to have suffered from > corrosion much more than > the rest). > > Serge VIDAL > KR2 ZS-WEC > Johannesburg, South Africa Serge, I didn't see an answer to your question and I'm curious about that too. In my area, things rust in my GARAGE, there is so much humidity. I have used commercial products (one of the best known here is called "Naval Jelly" a pink, thick acid), but don't know if it would be wise to use on brakes. Also, what about corrosion on aluminum? ===== Frank Ross, San Antonio, TX, __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Movies - coverage of the 74th Academy Awards® http://movies.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 15:01:41 EST To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: Subject: Dr Dean Message-Id: <20020327200141.ITF9839.tomts14-srv.bellnexxia.net@[209.226.175.14]> Is Dr Dean is on that list with his rounded corner ? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 15:56:03 -0500 To: adrenabh@terra.com.br From: "Philip J. Visconti" Cc: krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> Prop size for 2700 Corvair motor Message-ID: <20020327.155604.-302703.0.viscan@juno.com> Leo, I was curious about airport when I saw prop information. With runway info, interesting choice of prop pitch. Phil On Wed, 27 Mar 2002 09:40:33 -0300 "Leonardoadrenalina" writes: > Hello Fhill !!! > > Good talk to you, > THE RUNWAY IS 2000 FEET LONG AND THE ALTITUDE IS 3600 FT, THE PROP > IS 60X68 > WOOD THE E-MAIL BELOW I,VE SENT TO LARRY AND MAYBE YOU CAN SEE > SOMETHING > INTERESTING FOR YOU. > ANY QUESTIONS DON'T HESITATE TO E-MAIL ME . > LEO ,BRAZIL. > http://www.geocities.com/adrenabh/KR2S_AND_THE_SPEED_BOY.html?99141938541 0 > >Leo, > > > >I looked at your web site. Good looking KR. > ow short is runway and what altitude ? You said you were using 60 x > 68 > >prop. > > > >Phil > > > >________________________________________________________________ > >GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! > >Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! > >Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: > >http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 16:50:02 -0800 To: From: "Peter Johnson" Subject: Landing Gear Options Message-ID: <001701c1d5f2$844b16c0$1b09eccf@peter> ------=_NextPart_000_0014_01C1D5AF.70B9C360 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Phil. In response to your inquiry regarding options to the Diehl = gear legs, check out the composite leaf springs on the GMC Safari/Chevy = Astro vans. I pulled a set off last summer, cut them down to size, did a = load/deflection test and posted the results to the net here. In a = nutshell, they will work fine for up to about 1200 lb gross. I'm going to be using the same leaf springs for my nose gear with a = trailing link style wheel bracket. Hope this helps Phil. If you can't find the posting I sent out in the = archives, drop me aline and I'll see if I can find it and send it to you = direct. Peter Johnson Kenora, Ontario, Canada mailto:pjohnson@voyageur.ca ------=_NextPart_000_0014_01C1D5AF.70B9C360-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 00:51:20 -0300 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: "faby" Subject: from argentina Message-Id: =BFpuedo usar un motor alfa romeo 1400cc y 105kg en mi kr2s? gracias Fabian buenos aires, argentina ------------------------------ End of krnet Digest ***********************************