From: To: Subject: krnet Digest 29 Mar 2002 22:27:28 -0000 Issue 399 Date: Friday, March 29, 2002 2:27 PM krnet Digest 29 Mar 2002 22:27:28 -0000 Issue 399 Topics (messages 9418 through 9447): Re: Dr Dean 9418 by: Dean Collette horsepower payback 9419 by: Flibuoy.aol.com 9422 by: Dana Overall Re: from argentina 9420 by: Serge F. VIDAL 9428 by: virgnvs.juno.com 9429 by: klodhopper.iVillage.com 9437 by: virgnvs.juno.com from Argentina - KR2-S motor size 9421 by: Larry A. Capps test 9423 by: rfarmer 9425 by: rfarmer Re: boat sides 9424 by: Jerry Mahurin 9436 by: Eduardo Iglesias KR-1 Landing gear options. 9426 by: Jim Payne 9427 by: Jerry Mahurin Bent aluminum gear legs 9430 by: Tracy & Carol O'Brien Stub wing Lay-up 9431 by: Jim Morehead 9432 by: Mark Langford 9434 by: Larry A. Capps 9435 by: Larry A. Capps looking for tach and temp 9433 by: Darren Pond Rod gear legs 9438 by: Tracy & Carol O'Brien Dang, it's Friday again:-)_ 9439 by: Dana Overall Tri gear conversion 9440 by: boyd84.juno.com Landing gear legs 9441 by: RONALD.FREIBERGER Got wood? 9442 by: broe13.comcast.net 9444 by: Mark Jones 9445 by: Mark Jones Engine Link 9443 by: Rick Re: Landing Gear Options 9446 by: Mr. Bryce Guenther Sun'n Fun 9447 by: Kenneth L Wiltrout Administrivia: To subscribe to the digest, e-mail: To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail: To post to the list, e-mail: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 21:58:30 -0600 To: , From: "Dean Collette" Subject: Re: KR> Dr Dean Message-ID: <005401c1d60c$d30953c0$82581f41@DSKTOP> Yep, he's on the list. Dean Collette Milwaukee Wisconsin dcollette@wi.rr.com ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 2:01 PM Subject: KR> Dr Dean > Is Dr Dean is on that list with his rounded corner ? > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- ----------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 23:22:06 EST To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: Flibuoy@aol.com Subject: horsepower payback Message-ID: <141.bded458.29d3f46e@aol.com> --part1_141.bded458.29d3f46e_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thought it was interesting to note that Van's new airplane...the RV10....has a whooping 13 knot increase when horsepower is increased almost 50%. This is in keeping with an old rule of thumb...anyway, I am back to light, straight and slick for speed gains rather than power. Paser's book will make a believer out of you too. john --part1_141.bded458.29d3f46e_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 07:04:35 -0500 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: "Dana Overall" Subject: Re: KR> horsepower payback Message-ID: Whoa now, let's compare apples to apples:-) No, this isn't an RV post but it is something I have done some research on. First of all the RV10 numbers from Van's say that with the largest engine it will only keep up with the present 200HP RV.........never faster. All present RV's are two seaters...........the RV-10 is a four seater designed for cross country hauling with 60 gallons on board, 31.5' wing compared to my 25', aspect ratio of 6.75 compared to the 4 aspect of 4.76 or 9 (cruiser) of 6.34. As with the 9, this will be a non aerobatic airplane. This plane will be at least 25% larger than the presently largest RV aircraft. As for speed, Van's predicts the 10 will cruise at 200MPH at 75% power at 5500' and 180MPH at 55% power at 5500'. The 7 (two place) cruises at these same speeds with 180HP. You could still use the IO-360, which can be used in the 7 in the 10 at a loss of cruise speed of 15MPH. So for the same HP, you could haul 4 people (truly) at 165MPH at 55% or 185MPH at 75% (slightly better than my Bonanza at less HP). Truly this is not an RV post but a weight, size post:-) Build em small and light and you will go faster, but let's compare apples to apples. Dana Overall Richmond, KY Flibuoy said:> >Thought it was interesting to note that Van's new airplane...the >RV10....has >a whooping 13 knot increase when horsepower is increased almost 50%. This >is >in keeping with an old rule of thumb...anyway, I am back to light, straight >and slick for speed gains rather than power. Paser's book will make a >believer out of you too. john _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 08:34:35 +0200 To: "faby" , From: "Serge F. VIDAL" Subject: RE: KR> from argentina Message-ID: Fabian, Depende. ¿Cual es la potencia de este motor? Vas a utilizar un reductor? En general, el KR no necesita más potencia. Pero como es un avión rápido, hay que tener el combinación corecte de motor, reductor y hélice para decolar con poca distancia, y ascender. Serge VIDAL KR2 ZS-WEC Johannesburg, South Africa -----Original Message----- From: faby [mailto:faby100@topmail.com.ar] Sent: 28 March, 2002 5:51 AM To: krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: KR> from argentina ¿puedo usar un motor alfa romeo 1400cc y 105kg en mi kr2s? gracias Fabian buenos aires, argentina --------------------------------------------------------------------- To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 10:34:05 -0500 To: svidal@icon.co.za From: virgnvs@juno.com Cc: faby100@topmail.com.ar, krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> from argentina Message-ID: <20020328.110045.-226547.0.virgnvs@juno.com> How about letting us Gringo's in on this, Virg On Thu, 28 Mar 2002 08:34:35 +0200 "Serge F. VIDAL" writes: > Fabian, > > Depende. ¿Cual es la potencia de este motor? Vas a utilizar un > reductor? > > En general, el KR no necesita más potencia. Pero como es un avión > rápido, > hay que tener el combinación corecte de motor, reductor y hélice > para > decolar con poca distancia, y ascender. > > Serge VIDAL > KR2 ZS-WEC > Johannesburg, South Africa > > -----Original Message----- > From: faby [mailto:faby100@topmail.com.ar] > Sent: 28 March, 2002 5:51 AM > To: krnet@mailinglists.org > Subject: KR> from argentina > > ¿puedo usar un motor alfa romeo 1400cc y 105kg en mi kr2s? gracias > Fabian buenos aires, argentina > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 09:13:52 -0800 To: From: Cc: Subject: Re: KR> from argentina Message-ID: <79f701c1d67b$ef51c700$0cc8a8c0@mail2world.com> ------=_NextPart_000_79F8_01C1D638.E12E8700 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Fabian wanted to know if he could use an Alfa Romeo 1400 engine. Serge told him it depends on the potential of the engine, whether he used a reduction drive and what prop and finally how all 3 matched up to the KR. loosely translated. Klodhopper _______________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE email account at iVillage.com! http://webmail.ivillage.com=20 <-----Original Message-----> >=20 > From: virgnvs@juno.com > Sent: 3/28/2002 10:33:05 AM > To: svidal@icon.co.za > Cc: faby100@topmail.com.ar;krnet@mailinglists.org > Subject: Re: KR> from argentina >=20 > How about letting us Gringo's in on this, Virg >=20 > On Thu, 28 Mar 2002 08:34:35 +0200 "Serge F. VIDAL"=20 > writes: > Fabian, >=20 > Depende. =BFCual es la potencia de este motor? Vas a utilizar un=20 > reductor? >=20 > En general, el KR no necesita m=E1s potencia. Pero como es un avi=F3n=20 > r=E1pido, > hay que tener el combinaci=F3n corecte de motor, reductor y h=E9lice=20 > para > decolar con poca distancia, y ascender. >=20 > Serge VIDAL > KR2 ZS-WEC > Johannesburg, South Africa >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: faby [mailto:faby100@topmail.com.ar] > Sent: 28 March, 2002 5:51 AM > To: krnet@mailinglists.org > Subject: KR> from argentina >=20 > =BFpuedo usar un motor alfa romeo 1400cc y 105kg en mi kr2s? gracias > Fabian buenos aires, argentina >=20 >=20 >=20 > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" >=20 > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org >=20 > See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ >=20 >=20 > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" >=20 > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org=20 > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org >=20 > See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" >=20 > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org=20 > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org >=20 > See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ ------=_NextPart_000_79F8_01C1D638.E12E8700-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 20:39:56 -0500 To: klodhopper@iVillage.com From: virgnvs@juno.com Cc: krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> from argentina Message-ID: <20020328.204510.-26977.0.virgnvs@juno.com> Thanks, Virg On Thu, 28 Mar 2002 09:13:52 -0800 writes: > Fabian wanted to know if he could use an Alfa Romeo 1400 engine. > Serge told him it depends on the potential of the engine, whether > he > used a reduction drive and what prop and finally how all 3 matched > up > to the KR. loosely translated. > > Klodhopper > _______________________________________________________________ > Get your own FREE email account at iVillage.com! > http://webmail.ivillage.com > > <-----Original Message-----> > > > > From: virgnvs@juno.com > > Sent: 3/28/2002 10:33:05 AM > > To: svidal@icon.co.za > > Cc: faby100@topmail.com.ar;krnet@mailinglists.org > > Subject: Re: KR> from argentina > > > > How about letting us Gringo's in on this, Virg > > > > On Thu, 28 Mar 2002 08:34:35 +0200 "Serge F. VIDAL" > > writes: > > Fabian, > > > > Depende. ¿Cual es la potencia de este motor? Vas a utilizar un > > reductor? > > > > En general, el KR no necesita más potencia. Pero como es un avión > > > rápido, > > hay que tener el combinación corecte de motor, reductor y hélice > > para > > decolar con poca distancia, y ascender. > > > > Serge VIDAL > > KR2 ZS-WEC > > Johannesburg, South Africa > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: faby [mailto:faby100@topmail.com.ar] > > Sent: 28 March, 2002 5:51 AM > > To: krnet@mailinglists.org > > Subject: KR> from argentina > > > > ¿puedo usar un motor alfa romeo 1400cc y 105kg en mi kr2s? > gracias > > Fabian buenos aires, argentina > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply > all" > > > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply > all" > > > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply > all" > > > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 01:00:50 -0600 To: "KR Builders \(E-mail\)" From: "Larry A. Capps" Subject: from Argentina - KR2-S motor size Message-ID: <003b01c1d626$4bc97600$0400a8c0@schpankme> Para el peso de un motor 105kg, usted debe buscar un motor que ponga hacia fuera 2000cc. Azules Cielos, Larry A. Capps Naperville, IL -----Original Message----- En general, el KR no necesita más potencia. Pero como es un avión rápido, hay que tener el combinación corecte de motor, reductor y hélice para decolar con poca distancia, y ascender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 07:07:49 -0500 To: From: "rfarmer" Subject: test Message-ID: <008b01c1d651$2f33bf20$895b62d8@oemcomputer> ------=_NextPart_000_0088_01C1D627.45512920 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable test ------=_NextPart_000_0088_01C1D627.45512920-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 07:37:22 -0500 To: "Frank Ross" From: "Linda farmer" Cc: Subject: Re: KR> test Message-ID: <00a201c1d655$4fca3260$895b62d8@oemcomputer> I received 2 of all my emails this morning, It must have been my ISP because it seems fine now. While I have your attention I got an email 'Hahaha' that had a virus this morning. Norton caught it. Thanks Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank Ross" To: "rfarmer" Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 7:57 AM Subject: Re: KR> test > Bob, > Got your test here. Are you having trouble getting KR > messages? > Frank in San Antonio, TX > --- rfarmer wrote: > > test > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Movies - coverage of the 74th Academy Awards® > http://movies.yahoo.com/ > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 08:22:28 -0500 To: "Eduardo =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9?= Jankosz" , "Mark Langford" , From: "Jerry Mahurin" Subject: Re: KR> RE: boat sides Message-ID: Not to rain on anyone's parade; but it shounds like this is a project to build another airplane. It started out using the KR as a beginning.... or baseline. Now we are talking about a totally diffrent airplane..... I'm not saying anything is bad, it is just no longer a KR. Just my two cents worth.... Jerry Mahurin See our KR2 at http://www.jerrymahurin.com On Wed, 27 Mar 2002 21:55:18 -0300 "Eduardo José Jankosz" wrote: >Hi, guys! > > >I drawn all stations (A to N) in rounded format in >Autocad! And I mounted >it in 3D. The general appearance is good! And I think to >make all fuselage >entire , in fiberglass or carbon fiber, over only a wood >lamina! I made >both sides down with 212 mm ray, to assent the side with >the bottom, the >both sides up of front deck with 150 mm ray, and an >ellipse from canopy to >the tail! I put about 13 longerons with 12 mm side in the >largest width to >format round! The rings (stations) I think make of 15mm >(5/8 inch) plywood! > >But.........an expert in KR here in Brasil, told me that >is >dangerous!!!!!!!!!!!!! He told that is dangerous, because >a plane with a >rounded fuselage, can not recuperate easily of a spin , >like a square >fuselage plane! Principally the KR, that has a poor >tail!!!!!!! He told me >that the plane would must have a T tail, or a more >efficient rudder that >KR has! > >What do you have to tell me about? > > >Thanks!!!! > > > > >Eduardo José Jankosz >jankosz@bsi.com.br >http://www.bsi.com.br/cbcb >Curitiba - PR - BRASIL > >---------- >> De: Mark Langford >> Para: krnet@mailinglists.org >> Assunto: Re: KR> RE: boat sides >> Data: Quarta-feira, 27 de Março de 2002 10:11 >> >> Mike wrote: >> >> >>saw a site were a guy was building his "boat" >>different, the bottom and >> sides were not a 90 deg joint but a radius. anyone >>remember seeing this >> kr?<< >> >> Like Dana mentioned, you might be thinking of Dr. Dean's >>fuselage ( >> http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/columbia/fuse1.jpg ). >> Although he saved >a >> few pounds, and made a much stronger "boat" (you can >>jump up and down on >the >> floor and not fall through), I think he'd be quick to >>tell you that it >was a >> real pain to do, and cost him several hundred extra >>hours. I think I >> remember seeing another one under construction somewhere >>since then >though. >> >> Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL >> mailto:langford@hiwaay.net >> see KR2S project at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford >> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT >>"reply all" >> >> To UNsubscribe, e-mail: >>krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: >>krnet-help@mailinglists.org >> >> See the KRNet archives at >>http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ >> > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT >"reply all" > >To UNsubscribe, e-mail: >krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org >For additional commands, e-mail: >krnet-help@mailinglists.org > >See the KRNet archives at >http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ >