From: To: Subject: krnet Digest 15 May 2002 14:07:54 -0000 Issue 428 Date: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 7:08 AM krnet Digest 15 May 2002 14:07:54 -0000 Issue 428 Topics (messages 10112 through 10141): special oil fittings 10112 by: tomarickltd.nisbet.att.net Re: Monte and Newsletter 10113 by: virgnvs.juno.com Re: KR Quarterly 10114 by: virgnvs.juno.com Re: Terry Ryan's control plans 10115 by: John and Janet Martindale Filler 10116 by: Daniel Heath 10118 by: Dana Overall 10122 by: Jerry Mahurin 10123 by: Ron Eason 10124 by: Jerry Mahurin monte miller's kr 10117 by: "" To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail: To post to the list, e-mail: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 16:41:46 +0000 To: krnet@mailinglists.org (kr-net) From: tomarickltd.nisbet@att.net Subject: special oil fittings Message-Id: <20020513172208.TEOO7485.mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net@webmail.worldnet.att.net> does anyone know where in the US i can find special close quarters oil fittings. I have a problem with the oil return line with my gpas rear drive engine. rick nisbet ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 15:39:17 -0400 To: bo124rs@hotmail.com From: virgnvs@juno.com Cc: krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> Monte and Newsletter Message-ID: <20020513.155003.-276301.1.virgnvs@juno.com> Virgil never got it! Virg On Mon, 13 May 2002 07:14:20 -0400 "Dana Overall" writes: > First of all Monte sold his KR several, several years ago. The only > > interest he has/had in KR is monatary alone. Several years ago I > sent out a > boocoo of back issues and I think Oscar started scanning them. We > got > permission from prior publishers to do this but Monte wouldn't > extend the > same. It seems to me (this was several years ago) that the project > was more > than a little time consuming. I ended up sending mine out to > probably 10 or > so people who simply copied them. > > Ping..............anyone out there remember for sure what came of > this > project. > > PS..........does anyone know where that Panel Planner CD I sent out > 5 years > ago is now (we wouldn't do anything wrong but I think some people > sent it to > others to use......or so I heard:-). > > > Dana Overall > Richmond, KY > 1999 & 2000 National KR Gathering host > http://rvflying.tripod.com > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: > http://mobile.msn.com > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply > all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 15:37:00 -0400 To: alamokr2@yahoo.com From: virgnvs@juno.com Cc: krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> KR Quarterly Message-ID: <20020513.155003.-276301.0.virgnvs@juno.com> Steve Bennets attempt to keep the RK news going out during the time the KR Newsletter was not being published, Virg On Sun, 12 May 2002 22:23:53 -0700 (PDT) Frank Ross writes: > No > Frank > > > Any one remember the KR Quarterly ? > > Virg > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience > http://launch.yahoo.com > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply > all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 07:21:10 +1000 To: "Thomas C Adams" , From: "John and Janet Martindale" Subject: Re: KR> Terry Ryan's control plans Message-ID: <003901c1fac4$30d6c4c0$edde12d2@m1g0x7> Sorry I forgot. Try: ryaneprises@one.net.au Not sure if it's still current and Terry rarely looks at it. John and Janet Martindale 29 Jane Circuit TOORMINA NSW 2452 AUSTRALIA ph: 61 2 66584767 ----- Original Message ----- From: Thomas C Adams To: Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 1:42 AM Subject: Re: KR> Terry Ryan's control plans > electronic address available? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John and Janet Martindale" > To: "KRnet" > Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 2:50 AM > Subject: KR> Terry Ryan's control plans > > > Hi folks > > Terry is happy to release his plans to anyone that cares to drop him a line. > > His address is: > > PO BOX 620 > TAREE NSW 2430 > AUSTRALIA > > Regards > > John and Janet Martindale > 29 Jane Circuit > TOORMINA NSW 2452 > AUSTRALIA > > ph: 61 2 66584767 > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 17:42:34 -0700 To: "Krnet@Mailinglists.Org" From: "Daniel Heath" Subject: Filler Message-ID: I talked to someone at Poly Fiber www.polyfiber.com , here is what he told me. If your surface is like mine, you should start with something like AeroPoxy Lite or their product, Super Fil. If you do lay-ups like Mark L. you could jump right into the UV Smooth Prime which is meant for filling sanding scratches and pin holes. Anyway, I would sand the Super Fil with 80 grit until satisfied, then apply the UV Smooth Prime with a fine cell foam roller or spray gun and then dry sand with 320 grit. I would put on about 4 coats of this stuff. Then I would use a primer compatible with the paint that I am going to use and Paint. Check out that site, good information. Daniel R. Heath See our KR2 at: http://kr-builder.org See our EAA Chapter 242 at: WWW.EAA242.ORG --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.325 / Virus Database: 182 - Release Date: 2/19/2002 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 20:15:23 -0400 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: "Dana Overall" Subject: Re: KR> Filler Message-ID: Daniel, Those who have attended the last 4 or 5 gathering have seen my forums on Polyfiber products. You will find a foam roller is the only way to go. I experimented with spray guns to substandard results. The foam roller allows you to force the water based material into your pinholes. The spray gun does not allow this. You can roller a KR in no time. The mention of 4 applications of Smooth Prime would probably be inadequate. Any substained sanding would penetrate these layers and reduce the UV characteristics of the product. What you might be referring too is to apply 4 before you do your initial sanding. After this sanding, apply 2-3 more coats and final sand. You do not need to apply additional primer. The smooth prime is just that. No need to add additional weight. You will find the water based smooth prime to be very light when the water (carrier) evaporates. Dana Overall Richmond, KY 1999 & 2000 National KR Gathering host http://rvflying.tripod.com If you do lay-ups like Mark L. you could >jump right into the UV Smooth Prime which is meant for filling sanding >scratches and pin holes. > >Anyway, I would sand the Super Fil with 80 grit until satisfied, then apply >the UV Smooth Prime with a fine cell foam roller or spray gun and then dry >sand with 320 grit. I would put on about 4 coats of this stuff. Then I >would use a primer compatible with the paint that I am going to use and >Paint. > >Check out that site, good information. > >Daniel R. Heath > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 08:44:37 -0400 To: "KRnet" From: "Jerry Mahurin" Subject: Re: Filler Message-ID: Larry, Bless your little thumppin' gizzard. I have been preaching since day one that if it has 'Aircraft' (or Aero) stamped on it, the price triples with no additional benefits.... Have you ever considered a premium quality latex house paint....??? I don't really know at this point; but it looks like you might have the expertise to explore the subject. There was an article in this month's 'Kitplanes' about latex paint.... Jerry Mahurin Lugoff, SC http://kr-builder.org On Mon, 13 May 2002 17:13:17 -0500 "Larry A. Capps" wrote: >Here's some testing information about two homemade, and >two commercial >fillers. > >homemade fillers: > > o Aeropoxy + micro > o Alphapoxy + micro > >commercial fillers > > o Aeropoxy Light (PTM&W) > o SuperFil (Polyfiber) > > >DENSITY >Alphapoxy + micro - 3.1 lb/gal* >Aeropoxy + micro - 3.8 lb/gal* > >Aeropoxy Light (PTM&W) - 3.8 lb/gal* >SuperFil (Polyfiber) - 5.0 lb/gal* > >Both homemade fillers spread easily with an edition of >(tiny bit) alcohol. >(* +/- 2%; measured in a University Lab). > > >Aeropoxy Light (PTM&W) > o 3.8 lb/gal, and is very easy to spread, almost like >cake frosting. >(i.e., same density as homemade Aeropoxy filler) > >Alphapoxy > o has the ability to take more micro than the Aeropoxy >(3.1 lb/gal final >vs.. 3.8 lb/gal) > o is around 20% lighter (less dense) than the Aeropoxy >filler (if mixed >nice and dry). > o mix was lighter, and is just as easy to spread as the >Aeropoxy mix. > o with a little alcohol Alphapoxy spreads exactly like >cake frosting. > >AlphaPoxy Note: >Mix 2oz of AlphaPoxy, and 10oz (by volume) of micro will >easily cover an >area 24x36 inches. >Use a squeegee to smooth it out and remove excess. >Clean the squeegee well after each stroke. >When using the squeegee, the more vertical the squeegee, >the better the >result. > >DO NOT MISTAKE "Alphapoxy" for Aeropoxy and use it as a >structural layup! > > >Blue Skies. > >Larry A. Capps >Naperville, IL > > > >-----Original Message----- >If your surface is like mine, you should start with >something like AeroPoxy >Lite or their product, Super Fil. If you do lay-ups like >Mark L. you could >jump right into the UV Smooth Prime which is meant for >filling sanding >scratches and pin holes. > >Anyway, I would sand the Super Fil with 80 grit until >satisfied, then apply >the UV Smooth Prime with a fine cell foam roller or spray >gun and then dry >sand with 320 grit. I would put on about 4 coats of this >stuff. Then I >would use a primer compatible with the paint that I am >going to use and >Paint. > >Check out that site, good information. > >Daniel R. Heath > >See our KR2 at: http://kr-builder.org > >See our EAA Chapter 242 at: WWW.EAA242.ORG > > >--- >Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. >Checked by AVG anti-virus system >(http://www.grisoft.com). >Version: 6.0.325 / Virus Database: 182 - Release Date: >2/19/2002 > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT >"reply all" > >To UNsubscribe, e-mail: >krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org >For additional commands, e-mail: >krnet-help@mailinglists.org > >See the KRNet archives at >http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ > Jerry Mahurin Lugoff, SC http://kr-builder.org ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 06:17:22 -0700 To: "KRnet" , "Jerry Mahurin" From: "Ron Eason" Subject: Re: KR> Re: Filler Message-Id: <200205140617.AA261226630@jrl-engineering.com> Jerry, The problem with latex is it's compatability with other paint bases. I used to test paints for Butler Mfrg. and I have exploerd using a Acralic Latex for the entire plane finish. It dosen't have the gloss of other paint bases and it dosen't feather very well. I intend to spray a conventional Dupont or other prime. I have found it will fill the pin holes but it take technique and the right equipment and proceedure. I used this in Corvetts when I repaired them. A retarder is required to slow down the evaporation rate of the solvent in the prime. Using a good quality commercial equipment [Binks or Debelbus]{no cheep Japanees stuff] and spraying it wet will do the job. The visvocity and retarder is the key elements, viscocity of the prime is controlled by adding more solvent. Auto prime is less expensive and I have experience with it. I was involved with the Dawn Patrol guys using water base paints which were disapointing to them at the time but the product has improved since then. Make your choice and pay your money and take your chances, you hopfully paint you plane once. KRRon --------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "Jerry Mahurin" Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 08:44:37 -0400 >Larry, > >Bless your little thumppin' gizzard. I have been >preaching since day one that if it has 'Aircraft' (or >Aero) stamped on it, the price triples with no additional >benefits.... > >Have you ever considered a premium quality latex house >paint....??? I don't really know at this point; but it >looks like you might have the expertise to explore the >subject. There was an article in this month's 'Kitplanes' >about latex paint.... > > >Jerry Mahurin >Lugoff, SC >http://kr-builder.org > >On Mon, 13 May 2002 17:13:17 -0500 > "Larry A. Capps" wrote: >>Here's some testing information about two homemade, and >>two commercial >>fillers. >> >>homemade fillers: >> >> o Aeropoxy + micro >> o Alphapoxy + micro >> >>commercial fillers >> >> o Aeropoxy Light (PTM&W) >> o SuperFil (Polyfiber) >> >> >>DENSITY >>Alphapoxy + micro - 3.1 lb/gal* >>Aeropoxy + micro - 3.8 lb/gal* >> >>Aeropoxy Light (PTM&W) - 3.8 lb/gal* >>SuperFil (Polyfiber) - 5.0 lb/gal* >> >>Both homemade fillers spread easily with an edition of >>(tiny bit) alcohol. >>(* +/- 2%; measured in a University Lab). >> >> >>Aeropoxy Light (PTM&W) >> o 3.8 lb/gal, and is very easy to spread, almost like >>cake frosting. >>(i.e., same density as homemade Aeropoxy filler) >> >>Alphapoxy >> o has the ability to take more micro than the Aeropoxy >>(3.1 lb/gal final >>vs.. 3.8 lb/gal) >> o is around 20% lighter (less dense) than the Aeropoxy >>filler (if mixed >>nice and dry). >> o mix was lighter, and is just as easy to spread as the >>Aeropoxy mix. >> o with a little alcohol Alphapoxy spreads exactly like >>cake frosting. >> >>AlphaPoxy Note: >>Mix 2oz of AlphaPoxy, and 10oz (by volume) of micro will >>easily cover an >>area 24x36 inches. >>Use a squeegee to smooth it out and remove excess. >>Clean the squeegee well after each stroke. >>When using the squeegee, the more vertical the squeegee, >>the better the >>result. >> >>DO NOT MISTAKE "Alphapoxy" for Aeropoxy and use it as a >>structural layup! >> >> >>Blue Skies. >> >>Larry A. Capps >>Naperville, IL >> >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >>If your surface is like mine, you should start with >>something like AeroPoxy >>Lite or their product, Super Fil. If you do lay-ups like >>Mark L. you could >>jump right into the UV Smooth Prime which is meant for >>filling sanding >>scratches and pin holes. >> >>Anyway, I would sand the Super Fil with 80 grit until >>satisfied, then apply >>the UV Smooth Prime with a fine cell foam roller or spray >>gun and then dry >>sand with 320 grit. I would put on about 4 coats of this >>stuff. Then I >>would use a primer compatible with the paint that I am >>going to use and >>Paint. >> >>Check out that site, good information. >> >>Daniel R. Heath >> >>See our KR2 at: http://kr-builder.org >> >>See our EAA Chapter 242 at: WWW.EAA242.ORG >> >> >>--- >>Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. >>Checked by AVG anti-virus system >>(http://www.grisoft.com). >>Version: 6.0.325 / Virus Database: 182 - Release Date: >>2/19/2002 >> >> >>--------------------------------------------------------------------- >>To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT >>"reply all" >> >>To UNsubscribe, e-mail: >>krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org >>For additional commands, e-mail: >>krnet-help@mailinglists.org >> >>See the KRNet archives at >>http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ >> > >Jerry Mahurin >Lugoff, SC >http://kr-builder.org > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > >To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org >For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > >See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 09:48:08 -0400 To: "KRnet" From: "Jerry Mahurin" Subject: Re: KR> Re: Filler Message-ID: Ron, Thanks for the info....I really appreciate it. Same to Larry Capps (we have been emailing offnet). At this point there are so many options that I am bedazzled.... But, I intend to muddle on 'til I find an affordable acceptable solution. I refuse to be manipulated by any manufacturer that would prey upon my ignorance.... Jerry Mahurin Lugoff, SC http://kr-builder.org On Tue, 14 May 2002 06:17:22 -0700 "Ron Eason" wrote: >Jerry, > >The problem with latex is it's compatability with other >paint bases. I used to test paints for Butler Mfrg. and I >have exploerd using a Acralic Latex for the entire plane >finish. It dosen't have the gloss of other paint bases >and it dosen't feather very well. >I intend to spray a conventional Dupont or other prime. I >have found it will fill the pin holes but it take >technique and the right equipment and proceedure. I used >this in Corvetts when I repaired them. >A retarder is required to slow down the evaporation rate >of the solvent in the prime. Using a good quality >commercial equipment [Binks or Debelbus]{no cheep >Japanees stuff] and spraying it wet will do the job. The >visvocity and retarder is the key elements, viscocity of >the prime is controlled by adding more solvent. Auto >prime is less expensive and I have experience with it. >I was involved with the Dawn Patrol guys using water base >paints which were disapointing to them at the time but >the product has improved since then. >Make your choice and pay your money and take your >chances, you hopfully paint you plane once. > >KRRon > >--------- Original Message >---------------------------------- >From: "Jerry Mahurin" >Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 08:44:37 -0400 > >>Larry, >> >>Bless your little thumppin' gizzard. I have been >>preaching since day one that if it has 'Aircraft' (or >>Aero) stamped on it, the price triples with no additional >>benefits.... >> >>Have you ever considered a premium quality latex house >>paint....??? I don't really know at this point; but it >>looks like you might have the expertise to explore the >>subject. There was an article in this month's >>'Kitplanes' >>about latex paint.... >> >> >>Jerry Mahurin >>Lugoff, SC >>http://kr-builder.org >> >>On Mon, 13 May 2002 17:13:17 -0500 >> "Larry A. Capps" wrote: >>>Here's some testing information about two homemade, and >>>two commercial >>>fillers. >>> >>>homemade fillers: >>> >>> o Aeropoxy + micro >>> o Alphapoxy + micro >>> >>>commercial fillers >>> >>> o Aeropoxy Light (PTM&W) >>> o SuperFil (Polyfiber) >>> >>> >>>DENSITY >>>Alphapoxy + micro - 3.1 lb/gal* >>>Aeropoxy + micro - 3.8 lb/gal* >>> >>>Aeropoxy Light (PTM&W) - 3.8 lb/gal* >>>SuperFil (Polyfiber) - 5.0 lb/gal* >>> >>>Both homemade fillers spread easily with an edition of >>>(tiny bit) alcohol. >>>(* +/- 2%; measured in a University Lab). >>> >>> >>>Aeropoxy Light (PTM&W) >>> o 3.8 lb/gal, and is very easy to spread, almost like >>>cake frosting. >>>(i.e., same density as homemade Aeropoxy filler) >>> >>>Alphapoxy >>> o has the ability to take more micro than the Aeropoxy >>>(3.1 lb/gal final >>>vs.. 3.8 lb/gal) >>> o is around 20% lighter (less dense) than the Aeropoxy >>>filler (if mixed >>>nice and dry). >>> o mix was lighter, and is just as easy to spread as the >>>Aeropoxy mix. >>> o with a little alcohol Alphapoxy spreads exactly like >>>cake frosting. >>> >>>AlphaPoxy Note: >>>Mix 2oz of AlphaPoxy, and 10oz (by volume) of micro will >>>easily cover an >>>area 24x36 inches. >>>Use a squeegee to smooth it out and remove excess. >>>Clean the squeegee well after each stroke. >>>When using the squeegee, the more vertical the squeegee, >>>the better the >>>result. >>> >>>DO NOT MISTAKE "Alphapoxy" for Aeropoxy and use it as a >>>structural layup! >>> >>> >>>Blue Skies. >>> >>>Larry A. Capps >>>Naperville, IL >>> >>> >>> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>If your surface is like mine, you should start with >>>something like AeroPoxy >>>Lite or their product, Super Fil. If you do lay-ups like >>>Mark L. you could >>>jump right into the UV Smooth Prime which is meant for >>>filling sanding >>>scratches and pin holes. >>> >>>Anyway, I would sand the Super Fil with 80 grit until >>>satisfied, then apply >>>the UV Smooth Prime with a fine cell foam roller or spray >>>gun and then dry >>>sand with 320 grit. I would put on about 4 coats of this >>>stuff. Then I >>>would use a primer compatible with the paint that I am >>>going to use and >>>Paint. >>> >>>Check out that site, good information. >>> >>>Daniel R. Heath >>> >>>See our KR2 at: http://kr-builder.org >>> >>>See our EAA Chapter 242 at: WWW.EAA242.ORG >>> >>> >>>--- >>>Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. >>>Checked by AVG anti-virus system >>>(http://www.grisoft.com). >>>Version: 6.0.325 / Virus Database: 182 - Release Date: >>>2/19/2002 >>> >>> >>>--------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT >>>"reply all" >>> >>>To UNsubscribe, e-mail: >>>krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org >>>For additional commands, e-mail: >>>krnet-help@mailinglists.org >>> >>>See the KRNet archives at >>>http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ >>> >> >>Jerry Mahurin >>Lugoff, SC >>http://kr-builder.org >> >>--------------------------------------------------------------------- >>To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT >>"reply all" >> >>To UNsubscribe, e-mail: >>krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org >>For additional commands, e-mail: >>krnet-help@mailinglists.org >> >>See the KRNet archives at >>http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ >> >> > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT >"reply all" > >To UNsubscribe, e-mail: >krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org >For additional commands, e-mail: >krnet-help@mailinglists.org > >See the KRNet archives at >http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 19:38:39 -0400 (EDT) To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: "" Cc: Subject: monte miller's kr Message-Id: <20020513233839.0F976BF99@xmxpita.excite.com> --EXCITEBOUNDARY_000__cfe8eb1c81d57defd6df57f465f67cbf Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit monte miller's kr is in longview texas. not sure who own's it ------------------------------------------------ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! --EXCITEBOUNDARY_000__cfe8eb1c81d57defd6df57f465f67cbf-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 21:58:58 -0500 To: "KR-Net" From: "Mark Jones" Subject: Smooth Prime Crosslink Message-ID: <002801c1faf3$4bacd760$c5991f41@wi.rr.com> ------=_NextPart_000_0025_01C1FAC9.61EBD320 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello ALL, Recently, a good friend gave me 3/4 gallon of Smooth Prime and = Crosslink. The Crosslinker has gelled and I am wondering if this is = normal and can it be liquefied again by heating or do I need to contact = Polyfiber and get some new crosslink? Thanks Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA=20 E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at =20 http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html ------=_NextPart_000_0025_01C1FAC9.61EBD320-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 18:27:53 -0500 To: "KR-Net" From: "Mark Jones" Subject: Smooth Prime Crosslink Message-ID: <002701c1fb9e$f99e7300$c5991f41@wi.rr.com> ------=_NextPart_000_0024_01C1FB75.0FBBDD00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks to all who responded about my gelled crosslink. I contacted = PolyFiber this morning and they gladly mailed me a new bottle of = Crosslink today, 2 day priority mail, at no charge. That is what I call = customer service. Well worth dealing with a reputable company who stands = behind their product. Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA=20 E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at =20 http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html ------=_NextPart_000_0024_01C1FB75.0FBBDD00-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 22:08:35 -0500 To: From: "Larry A. Capps" Subject: Smooth Prime Message-ID: <001201c1faf4$a304a780$0600a8c0@schpankme> My best results for applying Smooth Prime, has been with a good quality Foam Roller (6 inch). Using a Foam Roller, forces the Smooth Prime into those nasty pin holes, in quick short order. It's my opinion that Smooth Prime, and the Foam Roller combo, offer the best coverage for the least amount of waste. Remember, once those pin holes are filled, any remaining primer left on the part is more "weight". That's right; sand off that weight ; sand ; sand my little darlings ; sand (muha ha ha - maniacal laughter erupts from the back ground)! Larry A. Capps Naperville, IL "People's attention is drawn by two things, the elegant and the unsightly. Take it from me, your plane is getting plenty of attention!" -----Original Message----- You will find a foam roller is the only way to go. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 06:41:48 -0400 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: "Dana Overall" Subject: Re: KR> Smooth Prime+crosslink Message-ID: Larry, if you are using UV Smooth Prime you still want material present or all you've done is fill the pin holes. If you are planning on priming with something different, don't know why, sand like there's no tomorrow:-) Mark, call Polyfiber up, he'll send you a new crosslink. Dana Overall Richmond, KY 1999 & 2000 National KR Gathering host http://rvflying.tripod.com > >Remember, once those pin holes are filled, any remaining primer left on the >part is more "weight". That's right; sand off that weight ; sand ; sand my >little darlings ; sand (muha ha ha - maniacal laughter erupts from the back >ground)! > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 14:58:29 -0400 To: From: Subject: Tail drager Message-Id: <20020514185829.HQUD12731.tomts10-srv.bellnexxia.net@[209.226.175.11]> Why so many people who as tri-gear config change to taildrager type ? What is the adventage ? Would like to know before I start to build. Regards Fran=E7ois Poirier hommevolant@sympatico.ca ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 19:37:18 -0700 To: From: "Daniel Heath" Subject: RE: KR> Tail drager Message-ID: I am surprised at that observation. I thought it was the other way around. Many think that the tri-gear has advantages over the tail dragger. It is my personal preference that the KR be a tail dragger and would never build one any other way. The advantages of a tail dragger, are less weight, less drag, less complexity, less things to go wrong (mechanical), less expensive, less time to build, and much much much prettier. Daniel R. Heath See our KR2 at: http://kr-builder.org See our EAA Chapter 242 at: WWW.EAA242.ORG -----Original Message----- From: hommevolant@sympatico.ca [mailto:hommevolant@sympatico.ca] Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 11:58 AM To: krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: KR> Tail drager Why so many people who as tri-gear config change to taildrager type ? What is the adventage ? Would like to know before I start to build. Regards François Poirier hommevolant@sympatico.ca --------------------------------------------------------------------- To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.325 / Virus Database: 182 - Release Date: 2/19/2002 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.325 / Virus Database: 182 - Release Date: 2/19/2002 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 22:28:21 -0500 To: "Daniel Heath" , From: "Patrick Driscoll" Subject: Re: KR> Tail drager Message-ID: <001501c1fbc0$91682a20$46dc6843@oemcomputer> And more expensive to insure. ------ http://USFamily.Net/info - Unlimited Internet - From $8.99/mo! ------ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 10:51:47 +0200 To: From: brunipietro@virgilio.it Subject: RE: KR> Tail drager Message-ID: --=_alternative 0030B004C1256BBA_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yes Daniel it should be, but for example i have took decision to built=20 tri-gear for another reason.. I had few month ago an aborted Take off with the airplane which i use to=20 tow sailplane, so was needed to stop plane in very hard mode, if i should=20 had taildrag may be plane turn upside, with tri-gear the stop was safe. Sorry for my terrible english Pietro "Daniel Heath" 15/05/2002 04.37 =20 To: cc:=20 Subject: RE: KR> Tail drager I am surprised at that observation. I thought it was the other way=20 around. Many think that the tri-gear has advantages over the tail dragger. It is my personal preference that the KR be a tail dragger and would never build one any other way. The advantages of a tail dragger, are less weight, less drag, less complexity, less things to go wrong (mechanical), less expensive, less=20 time to build, and much much much prettier. Daniel R. Heath See our KR2 at: http://kr-builder.org See our EAA Chapter 242 at: WWW.EAA242.ORG -----Original Message----- From: hommevolant@sympatico.ca [mailto:hommevolant@sympatico.ca] Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 11:58 AM To: krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: KR> Tail drager Why so many people who as tri-gear config change to taildrager type ? What is the adventage ? Would like to know before I start to build. Regards Fran=E7ois Poirier hommevolant@sympatico.ca --------------------------------------------------------------------- To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.325 / Virus Database: 182 - Release Date: 2/19/2002 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.325 / Virus Database: 182 - Release Date: 2/19/2002 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org=20 For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/=20 --=_alternative 0030B004C1256BBA_=-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 09:12:31 -0400 To: brunipietro@virgilio.it, From: "Jerry Mahurin" Subject: Re: KR> Tail drager Message-ID: Pietro, I fly sailplanes and cannot remember ever seeing a trigear tow plane.... I would think that the nose wheel would be a hazzard during an emergency stop.... Your english is fine....!!! Keep on keeping on, Jerry Mahurin Lugoff, SC http://kr-builder.org On Wed, 15 May 2002 10:51:47 +0200 brunipietro@virgilio.it wrote: >Yes Daniel it should be, but for example i have took >decision to built >tri-gear for another reason.. >I had few month ago an aborted Take off with the airplane >which i use to >tow sailplane, so was needed to stop plane in very hard >mode, if i should >had taildrag may be plane turn upside, with tri-gear the >stop was safe. > >Sorry for my terrible english > >Pietro > > > > > >"Daniel Heath" >15/05/2002 04.37 > > > To: > cc: > Subject: RE: KR> Tail drager > > >I am surprised at that observation. I thought it was the >other way >around. >Many think that the tri-gear has advantages over the tail >dragger. > >It is my personal preference that the KR be a tail >dragger and would never >build one any other way. > >The advantages of a tail dragger, are less weight, less >drag, less >complexity, less things to go wrong (mechanical), less >expensive, less >time >to build, and much much much prettier. > >Daniel R. Heath > >See our KR2 at: http://kr-builder.org > >See our EAA Chapter 242 at: WWW.EAA242.ORG > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: hommevolant@sympatico.ca >[mailto:hommevolant@sympatico.ca] >Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 11:58 AM >To: krnet@mailinglists.org >Subject: KR> Tail drager > > >Why so many people who as tri-gear config change to >taildrager type ? >What is the adventage ? > >Would like to know before I start to build. > >Regards > >François Poirier >hommevolant@sympatico.ca > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT >"reply all" > >To UNsubscribe, e-mail: >krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org >For additional commands, e-mail: >krnet-help@mailinglists.org > >See the KRNet archives at >http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ > >--- >Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. >Checked by AVG anti-virus system >(http://www.grisoft.com). >Version: 6.0.325 / Virus Database: 182 - Release Date: >2/19/2002 > >--- >Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. >Checked by AVG anti-virus system >(http://www.grisoft.com). >Version: 6.0.325 / Virus Database: 182 - Release Date: >2/19/2002 > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT >"reply all" > >To UNsubscribe, e-mail: >krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org >For additional commands, e-mail: >krnet-help@mailinglists.org > >See the KRNet archives at >http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ > > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 04:37:50 -0400 To: From: Subject: Canopy Message-ID: <001801c1fbeb$cce30180$993dd6d1@h1x1g0> ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01C1FBCA.45437960 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Anyone out there with a Dragonfly of KR2S canopy for sale? =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01C1FBCA.45437960-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 17:05:56 -0700 (PDT) To: KRNET@MAILINGLISTS.ORG From: Rick Wilson Subject: stub wings Message-ID: <20020515000556.8080.qmail@web21202.mail.yahoo.com> Hi, i bought a kr2 finished and ready to fly (after inspecting everything closely). The previous owner changed the landing gear from the original retract setup to trigear with oleo struts. ( I intend to change it to a setup like the diehl trigear in the near future). Anyway, the guy who changed it out simply made lips on the fiberglass around the area he removed to gain access to work inside the bottom of the stub wing, approx. 12" wide (side to side) and between the front and rear spars(aft side of front spar to forward side of rear spar). He then cut aluminum sheets to fit these holes and screwed them in place using tinnerman nuts. They look nice and fit flush, but I would like to know if this will affect the structural integrity of the stub wings or spars. If anyone has any answers or comments I would appreciate it. Thanks, Rick Wilson. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 21:44:01 -0500 To: From: "Ricky Farley" Subject: Fuselage sides Message-ID: <00ff01c1fbba$61c5db10$6501a8c0@ENTERPRISE> ------=_NextPart_000_0100_01C1FB90.78EFD310 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm now in the process of laying out my fuse sides on the table and I'm about to start gluing. The manual has a note that the last vertical member will be epoxied in position later. The problem is 1) I can't find where "later" is in the manual and 2) this leaves almost 2 feet at the end of the sides that have no vertical support when it's time to glue the plywood on (I'm going under the assumption that the "last vertical member" is station "n" on the KR-2S). Can I epoxy this in position now or is there a real advantage to doing it later, and if so, when is later? Any input is helpful. Thanks, Ricky San Angelo TX ------=_NextPart_000_0100_01C1FB90.78EFD310-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 22:20:14 -0500 To: "'Jim Morehead'" From: "Ricky Farley" Cc: Subject: RE: KR> Fuselage sides Message-ID: <010a01c1fbbf$70f452b0$6501a8c0@ENTERPRISE> Thanks. Re-reading the manual for the hundredth time I found it about 5 minutes after I sent the question. It tells me to install it when installing the H.S. I guess it's better to ask now than have problems later! Ricky Farley San Angelo TX -----Original Message----- From: Jim Morehead [mailto:kr2jm@d-web.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 23:13 To: Ricky Farley Subject: Re: KR> Fuselage sides on 5/14/02 7:44 PM, Ricky Farley at geek92@cox-internet.com wrote: > I'm now in the process of laying out my fuse sides on the table and I'm > about to start gluing. The manual has a note that the last vertical > member will be epoxied in position later. The problem is 1) I can't > find where "later" is in the manual and 2) this leaves almost 2 feet at > the end of the sides that have no vertical support when it's time to > glue the plywood on (I'm going under the assumption that the "last > vertical member" is station "n" on the KR-2S). Can I epoxy this in > position now or is there a real advantage to doing it later, and if so, > when is later? Any input is helpful. Thanks, > Ricky > San Angelo TX > Rick, On page 17 is a statement that the last vertical member should be glued in when you install the "horizontal Stabilizer is installed. I installed them when I was building the fuselage. I had to hand scarf them to meet with the "stabilizer" bulk head. Then on the back side of the vertical I had to rip a wedge shaped piece and glue it in to mate with the back bulk head. Also you can not get the back bulk head in with out cutting it and and scarfing it back together in position. It is possible, but much more work. Good Luck, Jim Morehead Cameron Park, CA ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 22:26:51 -0500 To: "Ricky Farley" , From: "Mark Jones" Subject: Re: KR> Fuselage sides Message-ID: <008a01c1fbc0$5b292400$c5991f41@wi.rr.com> Ricky, There has been a lot of issues regarding this station and when to do it. The reason they say to hold off is to make the installation of the rear bulkheads, which hold the stabilizer spar, easier to install. Personally, I pondered over this for quite some time and decided to go ahead and install the last vertical member in place when I made my fuselage side frame. However, I did not install the rear plywood sides until later. I did go ahead and install the forward skins and scarfed the edge for the rear skins to be added later. The reason I did mine this way was so I would have access to the rear bulkhead area when I installed it. Also, the rear vertical members which the bulkheads are laminated to must be sanded flat across for the bulkhead to make positive contact for the epoxying. With no skins in the way you are able to use a sanding board to sand across the vertical members to make the surface flat to accept the rear bulkheads. Check out my website below and the fuselage section for more details. Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ricky Farley" To: Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 9:44 PM Subject: KR> Fuselage sides > I'm now in the process of laying out my fuse sides on the table and I'm > about to start gluing. The manual has a note that the last vertical > member will be epoxied in position later. The problem is 1) I can't > find where "later" is in the manual and 2) this leaves almost 2 feet at > the end of the sides that have no vertical support when it's time to > glue the plywood on (I'm going under the assumption that the "last > vertical member" is station "n" on the KR-2S). Can I epoxy this in > position now or is there a real advantage to doing it later, and if so, > when is later? Any input is helpful. Thanks, > Ricky > San Angelo TX > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 00:25:46 -0500 To: "KR Builders \(E-mail\)" From: "Larry A. Capps" Subject: Smooth Prime my what Message-ID: <001e01c1fbd0$f7d67180$0600a8c0@schpankme> Hello KRNet, Let's talk SMOOTH PRIME: Although I'm a bigg fan of priming and finishing composite parts with epoxy based primers, there seems to be no substitute (at this time) for Smooth Prime. On a friends plane, the decision was made to mix up "half gallon" of Smooth Prime, and start rolling on to see how far it would go. Six hours later, and on the third coat, one just can't get rid of the remaining batch! It just keeps - going - and - going - and - going <<--umm, that's a catchy advertising tune..I wonder, nah no one would use that. Smooth Prime rolls on beautifully (6 inch foam roller), and covers a multitude of sins. - 50 grit scratches simply disappear - 36 grit scratches can still be seen but easily filled One dip of the foam roller into the Smooth Prime gives enough primer to cover half the wing surface. Many small imperfections disappeared, but were exchanged for quite a few ridges, dip and bumps, unseen before. Which became quite visible and easy to zero in on. Don't waste your time sanding down to 320 grit on the "Homebrew Micro Fill", just roll on the Smooth Prime, and fix what's left. So your setting back after reading the above and thinking to yourself "That just sounds so rosy I could puke". Well there is one negative with sanding the Smooth Prime, it must be dry sanded; your going to be dealing with big time mucho dust. << technical term. So for sanding, get yourself some Dry-Wall filter bags for your ShopVac . Saves cleaning the paper filter several times a day. What’s that, you say you don't have a shopvac - you’re a bad monkey! Closing points, even if Smooth Prime costs twice as much as a leading substitute; you’re only going to need one third the amount. As much as I'd like to tell you there's something better out there, at this time - I can't. OK for all you "I gotts to know about something different" bunch, try this little jewel of a product TENACO® EPOXY PROTECTIVE COATINGS http://www.vikingpaints.com/Products/tenaco.html >>> Caution <<< lacquer thinners, and solvents will dissolve most foam; except urethanes. Know what's underneath before using. How's that Mark >:) Best Regards, Larry A. Capps Naperville, IL ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 04:56:02 -0700 To: "Krnet@Mailinglists.Org" From: "Daniel Heath" Subject: RE: KR> Tail dragger Message-ID: ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C1FBCC.CFF562B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I learned to fly a tail dragger in my first KR2. I had about 2 hours aerobatic instruction in a tail dragger, and most of that was in the air. I guess I must just be lucky. OR, it might be that because the KR has such a short tail, it is not as prone to switch ends. I don't know which it is, but I don't remember it being that difficult. Daniel R. Heath See our KR2 at: http://kr-builder.org See our EAA Chapter 242 at: WWW.EAA242.ORG -----Original Message----- From: CHOCTAWCWR@aol.com [mailto:CHOCTAWCWR@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 7:30 PM To: danrh@att.net Subject: Re: KR> Tail drager danial, do you have any taildragger time? it is a whole new world when landing or taxing a taildragger, it is like throwing an arrow with the feathers in front, the plane wants to switch ends. charles robison --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.325 / Virus Database: 182 - Release Date: 2/19/2002 ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C1FBCC.CFF562B0-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 04:57:00 -0700 To: "Krnet@Mailinglists.Org" From: "Daniel Heath" Subject: RE: KR> Tail dragger Message-ID: Well, I didn't really want to go there...... But ain't it fun???? Daniel R. Heath See our KR2 at: http://kr-builder.org See our EAA Chapter 242 at: WWW.EAA242.ORG -----Original Message----- From: RONALD.FREIBERGER [mailto:ron.martha@mindspring.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 6:48 PM To: Daniel Heath Subject: RE: KR> Tail drager Ataboy; Well said. The nose roller is a training wheel. ;o) Ron Freiberger... mailto:ron.martha@mindspring.com -----Original Message----- From: Daniel Heath [mailto:danrh@att.net] Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 10:37 PM To: krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: RE: KR> Tail drager I am surprised at that observation. I thought it was the other way around. Many think that the tri-gear has advantages over the tail dragger. It is my personal preference that the KR be a tail dragger and would never build one any other way. The advantages of a tail dragger, are less weight, less drag, less complexity, less things to go wrong (mechanical), less expensive, less time to build, and much much much prettier. Daniel R. Heath See our KR2 at: http://kr-builder.org See our EAA Chapter 242 at: WWW.EAA242.ORG -----Original Message----- From: hommevolant@sympatico.ca [mailto:hommevolant@sympatico.ca] Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 11:58 AM To: krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: KR> Tail drager Why so many people who as tri-gear config change to taildrager type ? What is the adventage ? Would like to know before I start to build. Regards François Poirier hommevolant@sympatico.ca --------------------------------------------------------------------- To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.325 / Virus Database: 182 - Release Date: 2/19/2002 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.325 / Virus Database: 182 - Release Date: 2/19/2002 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.325 / Virus Database: 182 - Release Date: 2/19/2002 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.325 / Virus Database: 182 - Release Date: 2/19/2002 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 05:13:18 -0700 To: From: "Daniel Heath" Subject: RE: KR> Tail dragger Message-ID: Your English is just fine. It is great to have you on the net. I sometimes think it is more fun building a KR, because of the net and all the great people you get to meet from all over the world. I really think you should build what you are comfortable with. I can't imagine anything worse than building a plane that you don't feel comfortable flying. Building is fun, but flying is the most fun. Daniel R. Heath See our KR2 at: http://kr-builder.org See our EAA Chapter 242 at: WWW.EAA242.ORG -----Original Message----- From: brunipietro@virgilio.it [mailto:brunipietro@virgilio.it] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 1:52 AM To: krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: RE: KR> Tail drager Yes Daniel it should be, but for example i have took decision to built tri-gear for another reason.. I had few month ago an aborted Take off with the airplane which i use to tow sailplane, so was needed to stop plane in very hard mode, if i should had taildrag may be plane turn upside, with tri-gear the stop was safe. Sorry for my terrible english Pietro "Daniel Heath" 15/05/2002 04.37 To: cc: Subject: RE: KR> Tail drager I am surprised at that observation. I thought it was the other way around. Many think that the tri-gear has advantages over the tail dragger. It is my personal preference that the KR be a tail dragger and would never build one any other way. The advantages of a tail dragger, are less weight, less drag, less complexity, less things to go wrong (mechanical), less expensive, less time to build, and much much much prettier. Daniel R. Heath See our KR2 at: http://kr-builder.org See our EAA Chapter 242 at: WWW.EAA242.ORG -----Original Message----- From: hommevolant@sympatico.ca [mailto:hommevolant@sympatico.ca] Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 11:58 AM To: krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: KR> Tail drager Why so many people who as tri-gear config change to taildrager type ? What is the adventage ? Would like to know before I start to build. 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Version: 6.0.325 / Virus Database: 182 - Release Date: 2/19/2002 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 09:44:57 -0400 To: From: "mike" Subject: A stupid question Message-ID: <001001c1fc16$b4918400$6400a8c0@wolftreeinc.com> ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C1FBF5.2CBE1AA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ok, here it is. I was almost finished with my rudder had it perfectly = sanded, almost, i mixed a lil more micro to fill a tiny lil spot and i = put the light over it like i always do. I started doing another project = and the next time i checked on it=20 the light had caused it to get to hot and i had a big bump , sanded = this off after it cured then had to use more micro to fix the mess i'd = made. Ok the question is , should i just scrap the thing tear out ALL = the foam work and start over? micro is heavier than foam, the area is = about 1/4 inch deep and 8 or 9 inches long. I just wanna keep the weight = down if i can. ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C1FBF5.2CBE1AA0-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 09:06:29 -0500 To: "KRNet" From: "Robert Stone" Subject: RE-KR Tail Dragers Message-ID: <002b01c1fc19$b5cbd160$05d81a18@hot.rr.com> ------=_NextPart_000_0028_01C1FBEF.CCCB0FE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Netters: Ken Rand never had a day of training in tail draggers. He = learned to fly in a Cessna 150 like most of us and then went on to = design and build the KR-1 and it was a tail dragger. He just taxied a = lot, first slow and then fast until he got the feel of the aircraft and = then took off and landed. The only problem he ever had that I know of = is with the original spring bar on the main landing gear that rotated = for retraction if the landing was too hard the spring bar would come = through the top of the wing. =20 Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Tx rstone4@hot.rr.com ------=_NextPart_000_0028_01C1FBEF.CCCB0FE0-- ------------------------------ End of krnet Digest ***********************************