From: To: Subject: krnet Digest 18 May 2002 06:00:00 -0000 Issue 430 Date: Friday, May 17, 2002 11:00 PM krnet Digest 18 May 2002 06:00:00 -0000 Issue 430 Topics (messages 10170 through 10199): Da pics:-) 10170 by: Frank Ross 10171 by: virgnvs.juno.com 10173 by: Robert Stone 10175 by: bstarrs 10176 by: Ricky Farley 10178 by: larry flesner 10180 by: cartera 10181 by: cartera 10188 by: Frank Ross 10190 by: bstarrs 10191 by: Frank Ross 10192 by: John & Elaine Roffey 10194 by: virgnvs.juno.com 10195 by: virgnvs.juno.com Re: Tail drager 10172 by: Jerry Mahurin 10179 by: cartera 10193 by: Jerry Mahurin 10198 by: cartera Re: diesel Engine 10174 by: Scott Stanton 10189 by: Glasco Builder's site 10177 by: J. C. (Joe) Smith 10182 by: Scott Stanton Re: Two KR2S's for sale 10183 by: Mark Langford VW Timing 10184 by: Jim Faughn canopy seal 10185 by: Rick Wilson update 10186 by: Edwin Blocher wheels & cowpies. theyre both round 10187 by: jim . synergy design O-200, Marty's plane and drag (was - Da pics:-) 10196 by: george.highlandsystems.com Aircraft Salvage 10197 by: Keith S Melvill Weight of 1200cc VW? 10199 by: Darren Pond Administrivia: To subscribe to the digest, e-mail: To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail: To post to the list, e-mail: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 08:01:31 -0700 (PDT) To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: Frank Ross Subject: KR> Da pics:-) Message-ID: <20020517150131.42019.qmail@web21505.mail.yahoo.com> Ahhh, For the good old days when Aeroplanes were built like steam locomotives! That's it! I'm building the first Steam KR-2. Small, powerful steam engine, using anti-freeze instead of water, burning propane (or government documents, or cow-chips - there's a difference?). I've got to get out to the workshop right away, Steam-Engine Frank in San Antonio, TX out looking for cow-chips right now... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 11:19:44 -0400 To: alamokr2@yahoo.com From: virgnvs@juno.com Cc: krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> Da pics:-) Message-ID: <20020517.111945.-330239.0.virgnvs@juno.com> STERLING ENGINE anyone ? Virg ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 11:37:41 -0500 To: "KRNet" From: "Robert Stone" Subject: Re: KR> Da pics:-) Message-ID: <000401c1fdc1$2a4eb040$05d81a18@hot.rr.com> Frank: I love your sense of humor but when was the first aeroplane (this means Airplane) built like a steam locomotive? I do however agree with you government documents and cow chips are the same thing. Now on the serious side, get your ass out to the shop and get to work on your KR-2S or you will be renting spam cans for the rest of your life. Getting back to the subject of flying machines, the spam cans do fly like they were built like a locomotive, underpowered, slow, un-exiting all around performance. At least this is the experience I have had with the cheaper ones that I have flown like the Cessna 150, 152, 172, Piper 140, and Beach musketeer In closing I can't help but think of Marty Roberts KR-2 with the 0-200 continental engine. This is a high performance airplane if ever I saw one. Bob Stone, Harker Heights, TX rstone4@hot.rr.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 10:36:32 -0700 To: , "larry flesner" From: "bstarrs" Subject: Re: KR> Da pics:-) Message-ID: <004801c1fdc9$6352a920$9200a8c0@bstarrs> The closestI could get to what I wanted was 115 X . The X 15 was the first to brake the sound barrier. My little KR1 with it's un mulffled 60 HP VW looks and sounds like it's ready for Mach 1 every time I fire it up.Bill ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 15:02:02 -0500 To: "'bstarrs'" , From: "Ricky Farley" Subject: RE: KR> Da pics:-) Message-ID: <000801c1fddd$bf3d2620$6501a8c0@ENTERPRISE> X1 was the first to break the sound barrier (remember Chuck Yeager?) -----Original Message----- From: bstarrs [mailto:bstarrs@cybertrails.com] Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 12:37 To: krnet@mailinglists.org; larry flesner Subject: Re: KR> Da pics:-) The closestI could get to what I wanted was 115 X . The X 15 was the first to brake the sound barrier. My little KR1 with it's un mulffled 60 HP VW looks and sounds like it's ready for Mach 1 every time I fire it up.Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "larry flesner" To: Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 6:05 AM Subject: Re: KR> Da pics:-) > >In the Spirit of aviation.........what is it and who is that in the > >airplane...........that Week at Sun & Fun? Could it be Kermit the Frog?? > >It's Friday, let's have some fun!! > >Dana Overall > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > I'd guess that to be the replica "Spirit of St. Louis". I tried to get > the "N" number that the original "Spirit" used but you can't start > a number with X anymore. I tried to get just 211 (original Spirit > was X-211) but the EAA has that for the replica so I got 211LF > for my KR. How's that for "having the Spirit"? :-) > > Have a nice weekend everyone. > > Larry Flesner > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ > and at http://www.bouyea.net/ for the older ones > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ and at http://www.bouyea.net/ for the older ones ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 15:13:30 -0500 To: "KRNet" From: larry flesner Subject: Re: KR> Da pics:-) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20020517151330.0085c4c0@mail.midwest.net> > Getting back to the subject of flying machines, the spam cans do fly >like they were built like a locomotive, underpowered, slow, un-exiting all >around performance. At least this is the experience I have had with the >cheaper ones that I have flown like the Cessna 150, 152, 172, Piper 140, and >Beach musketeer >Bob Stone, Harker Heights, TX +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Bob, Sounds like you need a good dose of 150hp Tripacer. That would calm your case of the blues until you get your KR finished. C-172 performance at half the purchase price. Great roll rate with the 29 1/2 foot wing. Don't listen to those stories about "comes down like rock when you cut the power". Even a rock flies for a little while if you throw it high enough. :-) Once my KR with 0-200 is finished I'll look back at the 400+ hours in the Tripe with fond memories. Speaking of getting the KR finished, I need to get the second half of a wheel pant mold finished this afternoon before I take the weekend off for the big "REC AVIATION" fly-in here in southern Illinois this weekend. It's off to the garage!! Larry Flesner ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 14:06:33 -0600 To: Frank Ross From: cartera CC: krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> Da pics:-) Message-ID: <3CE562C9.8E290C41@cuug.ab.ca> Gang & Frank, Can I have a ride, can I have a ride, finally something real ;). I'll bring gov docs, too. No that Kermits cousin! Frank Ross wrote: > > Ahhh, > For the good old days when Aeroplanes were built like > steam locomotives! > That's it! > I'm building the first Steam KR-2. > Small, powerful steam engine, using anti-freeze > instead of water, burning propane (or government > documents, or cow-chips - there's a difference?). > I've got to get out to the workshop right away, > > Steam-Engine Frank in San Antonio, TX > out looking for cow-chips right now... > > --- Dana Overall wrote: > > We get so worried about the weight of "stuff" we put > > on our airplanes. > > Notice the aviation grade fuel lines and transfer > > valves at the bottom of > > the panel. The hole in the top middle is his HUD, > > needed in this airplane. > > > > In the Spirit of aviation.........what is it and who > > is that in the > > airplane...........that Week at Sun & Fun? Could it > > be Kermit the Frog?? > > > > http://rvflying.tripod.com/spirit.jpg > > > > It's Friday, let's have some fun!! > > > > Dana Overall > > Richmond, KY > > 1999 & 2000 National KR Gathering host > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience > http://launch.yahoo.com > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ > and at http://www.bouyea.net/ for the older ones -- Adrian VE6AFY Calgary, Alberta Mailto:cartera@cuug.ab.ca http://www.cuug.ab.ca/~cartera ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 14:15:47 -0600 To: Robert Stone From: cartera CC: KRNet Subject: Re: KR> Da pics:-) Message-ID: <3CE564F3.7C528579@cuug.ab.ca> Gang & Bob, Those spam cans are for everyone to fly no matter what level of competency. But building one or flying or thinking about building one is your ability and personality which we all have. Happy Flying!!! Got my gov docs under my arm, I'm comin, I'm comin ;). Robert Stone wrote: > > Frank: > I love your sense of humor but when was the first aeroplane (this means > Airplane) built like a steam locomotive? I do however agree with you > government documents and cow chips are the same thing. > Now on the serious side, get your ass out to the shop and get to work > on your KR-2S or you will be renting spam cans for the rest of your life. > Getting back to the subject of flying machines, the spam cans do fly > like they were built like a locomotive, underpowered, slow, un-exiting all > around performance. At least this is the experience I have had with the > cheaper ones that I have flown like the Cessna 150, 152, 172, Piper 140, and > Beach musketeer > In closing I can't help but think of Marty Roberts KR-2 with the 0-200 > continental engine. This is a high performance airplane if ever I saw one. > > Bob Stone, Harker Heights, TX > rstone4@hot.rr.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Frank Ross" > To: > Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 10:01 AM > Subject: KR> Da pics:-) > > > Ahhh, > > For the good old days when Aeroplanes were built like > > steam locomotives! > > That's it! > > I'm building the first Steam KR-2. > > Small, powerful steam engine, using anti-freeze > > instead of water, burning propane (or government > > documents, or cow-chips - there's a difference?). > > I've got to get out to the workshop right away, > > > > Steam-Engine Frank in San Antonio, TX > > out looking for cow-chips right now... > > > > --- Dana Overall wrote: > > > We get so worried about the weight of "stuff" we put > > > on our airplanes. > > > Notice the aviation grade fuel lines and transfer > > > valves at the bottom of > > > the panel. The hole in the top middle is his HUD, > > > needed in this airplane. > > > > > > In the Spirit of aviation.........what is it and who > > > is that in the > > > airplane...........that Week at Sun & Fun? Could it > > > be Kermit the Frog?? > > > > > > http://rvflying.tripod.com/spirit.jpg > > > > > > It's Friday, let's have some fun!! > > > > > > Dana Overall > > > Richmond, KY > > > 1999 & 2000 National KR Gathering host > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience > > http://launch.yahoo.com > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ > > and at http://www.bouyea.net/ for the older ones > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ > and at http://www.bouyea.net/ for the older ones -- Adrian VE6AFY Calgary, Alberta Mailto:cartera@cuug.ab.ca http://www.cuug.ab.ca/~cartera ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 16:49:47 -0700 (PDT) To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: Frank Ross Subject: RE: KR> Da pics:-) Message-ID: <20020517234947.83089.qmail@web21508.mail.yahoo.com> Bill, Ricky, I saw the X-15 make it's first powered flight. I was a young medic at Edwards AFB in 1959 and they were taking it up under the wing of a B-52 with a lot of orange paint on it (the B-52). They used F-104s for chase planes and would drop the X-15 and it would drop like a rock to land on the dry lake. One day they powered it up and it flew briefly around in a huge circle, completely out-running the 104s. One of the 104s cut across the circle to intercept it and it looked like he flew right through another 104. Years later I read in Reader's Digest that he flew right in front of the other plane, barely missing it. The 104s were very fast, but not really maneuverable. We saw some wonderful and amazing things at Edwards in those times. They had a really wierd looking plane called the F-107 which had a large air intake above and behind the cockpit. For years everyone told me I was nuts, that there was never such a plane, but I found it on the NASA site. It never got into production. I think the Air Force decided on the F-105 instead. Good choice. Funny, I never did see any steam planes... Steam-Engine Frank in San Antonio, TX --- Ricky Farley wrote: > X1 was the first to break the sound barrier > (remember Chuck Yeager?) > The closestI could get to what I wanted was 115 X . > The X 15 was the > first > to brake the sound barrier. My little KR1 with it's > un mulffled 60 HP > VW > looks and sounds like it's ready for Mach 1 every > time I fire it up.Bill > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 18:40:57 -0700 To: "Ricky Farley" , From: "bstarrs" Subject: Re: KR> Da pics:-) Message-ID: <003801c1fe0d$0f344bc0$9200a8c0@bstarrs> You are right . The X15 broke some other record. What was it? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ricky Farley" To: "'bstarrs'" ; Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 1:02 PM Subject: RE: KR> Da pics:-) > X1 was the first to break the sound barrier (remember Chuck Yeager?) > > -----Original Message----- > From: bstarrs [mailto:bstarrs@cybertrails.com] > Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 12:37 > To: krnet@mailinglists.org; larry flesner > Subject: Re: KR> Da pics:-) > > The closestI could get to what I wanted was 115 X . The X 15 was the > first > to brake the sound barrier. My little KR1 with it's un mulffled 60 HP > VW > looks and sounds like it's ready for Mach 1 every time I fire it up.Bill > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "larry flesner" > To: > Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 6:05 AM > Subject: Re: KR> Da pics:-) > > > > >In the Spirit of aviation.........what is it and who is that in the > > >airplane...........that Week at Sun & Fun? Could it be Kermit the > Frog?? > > >It's Friday, let's have some fun!! > > >Dana Overall > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > > > I'd guess that to be the replica "Spirit of St. Louis". I tried to > get > > the "N" number that the original "Spirit" used but you can't start > > a number with X anymore. I tried to get just 211 (original Spirit > > was X-211) but the EAA has that for the replica so I got 211LF > > for my KR. How's that for "having the Spirit"? :-) > > > > Have a nice weekend everyone. > > > > Larry Flesner > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ > > and at http://www.bouyea.net/ for the older ones > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ > and at http://www.bouyea.net/ for the older ones > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 19:24:28 -0700 (PDT) To: krnet From: Frank Ross Subject: Re: KR> Da pics:-) Message-ID: <20020518022428.93583.qmail@web21501.mail.yahoo.com> Bob, Nag, nag, nag. Boy, if you lived any closer to San Antonio, I'd probably have to work on that plane every day. You are right about Marty's plane. There's just something about that 0200. Could it have anything to do with the balls-to-the-wall way he flies it? Sure is a joy to watch. Can't wait to see some of these Corvairs fly... Frank Ross in San Antonio, TX --- Robert Stone wrote: > Frank: > Now on the serious side, get your ass out to > the shop and get to work > on your KR-2S or you will be renting spam cans for > the rest of your life. > In closing I can't help but think of Marty > Roberts KR-2 with the 0-200 > continental engine. This is a high performance > airplane if ever I saw one. > > Bob Stone, Harker Heights, TX > rstone4@hot.rr.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 22:55:05 -0400 To: "Frank Ross" , "krnet" From: "John & Elaine Roffey" Subject: Re: KR> Da pics:-) Message-ID: <005801c1fe17$6ac3bc00$e9a428d8@default> ----- Original Message ----- > You are right about Marty's plane. There's just > something about that 0200. Could it have anything to > do with the balls-to-the-wall way he flies it? Sure is > a joy to watch. Marty is THE consumate KR pilot. Watch and learn!!!! > Can't wait to see some of these Corvairs fly.. . Me too.!!! Hey Mark???? > > In closing I can't help but think of Marty > > Roberts KR-2 with the 0-200 > > continental engine. This is a high performance > > airplane if ever I saw one. He has proven how tuff the KR airframe is.!!! Think of Marty as a "TEST PILOT",,,,, every time he takes off.!!! John Roffey jeroffey@tir.com KR2S/O200 in escrow for now. > > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 23:15:34 -0400 To: alamokr2@yahoo.com From: virgnvs@juno.com Cc: krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> Da pics:-) Message-ID: <20020517.232123.-238517.2.virgnvs@juno.com> The intake over the cockpit did not work. No one would bail out! They would be sucked into the intake, Virg On Fri, 17 May 2002 16:49:47 -0700 (PDT) Frank Ross writes: > Bill, Ricky, > I saw the X-15 make it's first powered flight. I was a > young medic at Edwards AFB in 1959 and they were > taking it up under the wing of a B-52 with a lot of > orange paint on it (the B-52). They used F-104s for > chase planes and would drop the X-15 and it would drop > like a rock to land on the dry lake. One day they > powered it up and it flew briefly around in a huge > circle, completely out-running the 104s. One of the > 104s cut across the circle to intercept it and it > looked like he flew right through another 104. Years > later I read in Reader's Digest that he flew right in > front of the other plane, barely missing it. The 104s > were very fast, but not really maneuverable. We saw > some wonderful and amazing things at Edwards in those > times. They had a really wierd looking plane called > the F-107 which had a large air intake above and > behind the cockpit. For years everyone told me I was > nuts, that there was never such a plane, but I found > it on the NASA site. It never got into production. I > think the Air Force decided on the F-105 instead. Good > choice. > Funny, I never did see any steam planes... > > Steam-Engine Frank in San Antonio, TX > > --- Ricky Farley wrote: > > X1 was the first to break the sound barrier > > (remember Chuck Yeager?) > > > The closestI could get to what I wanted was 115 X . > > The X 15 was the > > first > > to brake the sound barrier. My little KR1 with it's > > un mulffled 60 HP > > VW > > looks and sounds like it's ready for Mach 1 every > > time I fire it up.Bill > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience > http://launch.yahoo.com > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ > and at http://www.bouyea.net/ for the older ones > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 23:20:15 -0400 To: bstarrs@cybertrails.com From: virgnvs@juno.com Cc: geek92@cox-internet.com, krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> Da pics:-) Message-ID: <20020517.232123.-238517.3.virgnvs@juno.com> Mach-3, Virg On Fri, 17 May 2002 18:40:57 -0700 "bstarrs" writes: > You are right . The X15 broke some other record. What was it? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ricky Farley" > To: "'bstarrs'" ; > Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 1:02 PM > Subject: RE: KR> Da pics:-) > > > > X1 was the first to break the sound barrier (remember Chuck > Yeager?) > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: bstarrs [mailto:bstarrs@cybertrails.com] > > Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 12:37 > > To: krnet@mailinglists.org; larry flesner > > Subject: Re: KR> Da pics:-) > > > > The closestI could get to what I wanted was 115 X . The X 15 was > the > > first > > to brake the sound barrier. My little KR1 with it's un mulffled > 60 HP > > VW > > looks and sounds like it's ready for Mach 1 every time I fire it > up.Bill > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "larry flesner" > > To: > > Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 6:05 AM > > Subject: Re: KR> Da pics:-) > > > > > > > >In the Spirit of aviation.........what is it and who is that in > the > > > >airplane...........that Week at Sun & Fun? Could it be Kermit > the > > Frog?? > > > >It's Friday, let's have some fun!! > > > >Dana Overall > > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > > > > > I'd guess that to be the replica "Spirit of St. Louis". I tried > to > > get > > > the "N" number that the original "Spirit" used but you can't > start > > > a number with X anymore. I tried to get just 211 (original > Spirit > > > was X-211) but the EAA has that for the replica so I got 211LF > > > for my KR. How's that for "having the Spirit"? :-) > > > > > > Have a nice weekend everyone. > > > > > > Larry Flesner > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply > all" > > > > > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > > > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > > > > > See the KRNet archives at > http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ > > > and at http://www.bouyea.net/ for the older ones > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply > all" > > > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ > > and at http://www.bouyea.net/ for the older ones > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply > all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ > and at http://www.bouyea.net/ for the older ones > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 11:27:50 -0400 To: "Phillip Matheson" , From: "Jerry Mahurin" Subject: Re: KR> Tail drager Message-ID: I wonder how all thos pilots got thru WWI and WWII without training wheels on their airplanes..... Of course a lot of the first airplanes (Wright Flyer, Curtis,....) had training wheels, but they took 'em off after they learned to fly... And, the best way to land a tri gear is to forget you have a nosewheel until the plane falls over onto it.... Can you see my slight bias....sorry about that... He sez in jest.... Keep on keeping on with whatever you got....! Jerry Mahurin Lugoff, SC http://kr-builder.org On Fri, 17 May 2002 20:04:36 +1000 "Phillip Matheson" wrote: >Yes, >But if you are not up to scratch on your landings, tail >dragers love to >ground loop. >Phil > >matheson@dodo.com.au >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Daniel Heath" >To: >Sent: 15 May 2002 12:37 >Subject: RE: KR> Tail drager > > >> I am surprised at that observation. I thought it was >>the other way >around. >> Many think that the tri-gear has advantages over the >>tail dragger. >> >> It is my personal preference that the KR be a tail >>dragger and would never >> build one any other way. >> >> The advantages of a tail dragger, are less weight, less >>drag, less >> complexity, less things to go wrong (mechanical), less >>expensive, less >time >> to build, and much much much prettier. >> >> Daniel R. Heath >> >> See our KR2 at: http://kr-builder.org >> >> See our EAA Chapter 242 at: WWW.EAA242.ORG >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: hommevolant@sympatico.ca >>[mailto:hommevolant@sympatico.ca] >> Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 11:58 AM >> To: krnet@mailinglists.org >> Subject: KR> Tail drager >> >> >> Why so many people who as tri-gear config change to >>taildrager type ? >> What is the adventage ? >> >> Would like to know before I start to build. >> >> Regards >> >> François Poirier >> hommevolant@sympatico.ca >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT >>"reply all" >> >> To UNsubscribe, e-mail: >>krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: >>krnet-help@mailinglists.org >> >> See the KRNet archives at >>http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ >> >> --- >> Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. >> Checked by AVG anti-virus system >>(http://www.grisoft.com). >> Version: 6.0.325 / Virus Database: 182 - Release Date: >>2/19/2002 >> >> --- >> Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. >> Checked by AVG anti-virus system >>(http://www.grisoft.com). >> Version: 6.0.325 / Virus Database: 182 - Release Date: >>2/19/2002 >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT >>"reply all" >> >> To UNsubscribe, e-mail: >>krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: >>krnet-help@mailinglists.org >> >> See the KRNet archives at >>http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ >> >> > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT >"reply all" > >To UNsubscribe, e-mail: >krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org >For additional commands, e-mail: >krnet-help@mailinglists.org > >See the KRNet archives at >http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ >and at http://www.bouyea.net/ for the older ones > Jerry Mahurin Lugoff, SC http://kr-builder.org ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 13:48:57 -0600 To: Phillip Matheson From: cartera CC: krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> Tail drager Message-ID: <3CE55EA9.9AFC0D5D@cuug.ab.ca> Hello Gang & Phil, Really, I have not ground looped and aircraft in my lifetime of flying. I just love you low time story tellers. Phillip Matheson wrote: > > Yes, > But if you are not up to scratch on your landings, tail dragers love to > ground loop. > Phil > > matheson@dodo.com.au > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Daniel Heath" > To: > Sent: 15 May 2002 12:37 > Subject: RE: KR> Tail drager > > > I am surprised at that observation. I thought it was the other way > around. > > Many think that the tri-gear has advantages over the tail dragger. > > > > It is my personal preference that the KR be a tail dragger and would never > > build one any other way. > > > > The advantages of a tail dragger, are less weight, less drag, less > > complexity, less things to go wrong (mechanical), less expensive, less > time > > to build, and much much much prettier. > > > > Daniel R. Heath > > > > See our KR2 at: http://kr-builder.org > > > > See our EAA Chapter 242 at: WWW.EAA242.ORG > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: hommevolant@sympatico.ca [mailto:hommevolant@sympatico.ca] > > Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 11:58 AM > > To: krnet@mailinglists.org > > Subject: KR> Tail drager > > > > > > Why so many people who as tri-gear config change to taildrager type ? > > What is the adventage ? > > > > Would like to know before I start to build. > > > > Regards > > > > François Poirier > > hommevolant@sympatico.ca > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ > > > > --- > > Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > Version: 6.0.325 / Virus Database: 182 - Release Date: 2/19/2002 > > > > --- > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > Version: 6.0.325 / Virus Database: 182 - Release Date: 2/19/2002 > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ > and at http://www.bouyea.net/ for the older ones -- Adrian VE6AFY Calgary, Alberta Mailto:cartera@cuug.ab.ca http://www.cuug.ab.ca/~cartera ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 23:07:31 -0700 To: "cartera" , "Phillip Matheson" From: "Jerry @ charter.net" Cc: Subject: Re: KR> Tail drager Message-ID: <013f01c1fe32$4ba10bf0$2b1af118@oldmyrddin> Well...... 'They' say there are two kinds of TD drivers.....those who have ground looped and those that will..... I fit in the former and just considered it a part of the learning process..... Not to say there may be exceptions to what 'They' say..... Jerry Mahurin Lugoff, SC See our KR2 at http://kr-builder.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "cartera" To: "Phillip Matheson" Cc: Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 12:48 PM Subject: Re: KR> Tail drager > Hello Gang & Phil, > Really, I have not ground looped and aircraft in my lifetime > of flying. I just love you low time story tellers. > > Phillip Matheson wrote: > > > > Yes, > > But if you are not up to scratch on your landings, tail dragers love to > > ground loop. > > Phil > > > > matheson@dodo.com.au > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Daniel Heath" > > To: > > Sent: 15 May 2002 12:37 > > Subject: RE: KR> Tail drager > > > > > I am surprised at that observation. I thought it was the other way > > around. > > > Many think that the tri-gear has advantages over the tail dragger. > > > > > > It is my personal preference that the KR be a tail dragger and would never > > > build one any other way. > > > > > > The advantages of a tail dragger, are less weight, less drag, less > > > complexity, less things to go wrong (mechanical), less expensive, less > > time > > > to build, and much much much prettier. > > > > > > Daniel R. Heath > > > > > > See our KR2 at: http://kr-builder.org > > > > > > See our EAA Chapter 242 at: WWW.EAA242.ORG > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: hommevolant@sympatico.ca [mailto:hommevolant@sympatico.ca] > > > Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 11:58 AM > > > To: krnet@mailinglists.org > > > Subject: KR> Tail drager > > > > > > > > > Why so many people who as tri-gear config change to taildrager type ? > > > What is the adventage ? > > > > > > Would like to know before I start to build. > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > François Poirier > > > hommevolant@sympatico.ca > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > > > > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > > > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > > > > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ > > > > > > --- > > > Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. > > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > > Version: 6.0.325 / Virus Database: 182 - Release Date: 2/19/2002 > > > > > > --- > > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > > Version: 6.0.325 / Virus Database: 182 - Release Date: 2/19/2002 > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > > > > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > > > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > > > > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ > > and at http://www.bouyea.net/ for the older ones > > -- > Adrian VE6AFY > Calgary, Alberta > Mailto:cartera@cuug.ab.ca > http://www.cuug.ab.ca/~cartera > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ > and at http://www.bouyea.net/ for the older ones > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 22:52:05 -0600 To: "Jerry @ charter.net" From: cartera CC: Phillip Matheson , krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> Tail drager Message-ID: <3CE5DDF5.134E3B74@cuug.ab.ca> Hi Gang & Jerry, Frank, This may be true, however, I will be honest and say I have come close. I flew a C120 for 800 hours and how I did never g/l I don't know. My sole purpose in any aircraft is to get it on the ground safely with no hurt to the a/c or my self. I guess you could call me a chicken flyer where I made sure I knew the a/c no matter what kind it was. And, made mostly 3 point landing and not a hotshot with wheel landing when things can happen so fast that no way you can control it. You see if your on a td, you want to get that tail wheel on the ground as soon as you can, then you have control. My method in xwinds is to use both crab and wing down, especially in strong cross winds and it has not failed me. One time I was in a PA12 and had to land in a 30mph xwind because I was low on fuel, I had run out of rudder pedal and the wing low was the only way to keep it straight, guess what I flew out of there with a full load of fuel. Not a scratch. With my many thousand of hours of flying, I don't want to brag, but look I am still here and only flipped one pawnee when crop dusting, that was a short and learning bit of flying, many guys are doing 14- 16 hours a day, but I felt there was an easier way to make a flying career. All I am saying is think about it and you will be home to give the wife and kids a hug! Our days have just been great, not a cloud in the sky and not windy we are at 3550 asl so it is a bit cooler but very nice. We also have a lot of cow patties up here and lots of oil, just like Texas. Used to fly for ARCO and have been down to your neck of the prairies a couple of times. Take Care! Happy Flying and Building! "Jerry @ charter.net" wrote: > > Well...... 'They' say there are two kinds of TD drivers.....those who have > ground looped and those that will..... I fit in the former and just > considered it a part of the learning process..... Not to say there may be > exceptions to what 'They' say..... > > Jerry Mahurin > Lugoff, SC > See our KR2 at http://kr-builder.org > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "cartera" > To: "Phillip Matheson" > Cc: > Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 12:48 PM > Subject: Re: KR> Tail drager > > > Hello Gang & Phil, > > Really, I have not ground looped and aircraft in my lifetime > > of flying. I just love you low time story tellers. > > > > Phillip Matheson wrote: > > > > > > Yes, > > > But if you are not up to scratch on your landings, tail dragers love to > > > ground loop. > > > Phil > > > > > > matheson@dodo.com.au > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Daniel Heath" > > > To: > > > Sent: 15 May 2002 12:37 > > > Subject: RE: KR> Tail drager > > > > > > > I am surprised at that observation. I thought it was the other way > > > around. > > > > Many think that the tri-gear has advantages over the tail dragger. > > > > > > > > It is my personal preference that the KR be a tail dragger and would > never > > > > build one any other way. > > > > > > > > The advantages of a tail dragger, are less weight, less drag, less > > > > complexity, less things to go wrong (mechanical), less expensive, less > > > time > > > > to build, and much much much prettier. > > > > > > > > Daniel R. Heath > > > > > > > > See our KR2 at: http://kr-builder.org > > > > > > > > See our EAA Chapter 242 at: WWW.EAA242.ORG > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: hommevolant@sympatico.ca [mailto:hommevolant@sympatico.ca] > > > > Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 11:58 AM > > > > To: krnet@mailinglists.org > > > > Subject: KR> Tail drager > > > > > > > > > > > > Why so many people who as tri-gear config change to taildrager type ? > > > > What is the adventage ? > > > > > > > > Would like to know before I start to build. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > François Poirier > > > > hommevolant@sympatico.ca > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > > > > > > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > > > > > > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ > > > > > > > > --- > > > > Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. > > > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > > > Version: 6.0.325 / Virus Database: 182 - Release Date: 2/19/2002 > > > > > > > > --- > > > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > > > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > > > Version: 6.0.325 / Virus Database: 182 - Release Date: 2/19/2002 > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > > > > > > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > > > > > > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > > > > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > > > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > > > > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ > > > and at http://www.bouyea.net/ for the older ones > > > > -- > > Adrian VE6AFY > > Calgary, Alberta > > Mailto:cartera@cuug.ab.ca > > http://www.cuug.ab.ca/~cartera > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ > > and at http://www.bouyea.net/ for the older ones > > -- Adrian VE6AFY Calgary, Alberta Mailto:cartera@cuug.ab.ca http://www.cuug.ab.ca/~cartera ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 09:59:18 -0700 (PDT) To: brunipietro@virgilio.it, krnet@mailinglists.org From: Scott Stanton Subject: Re: KR> diesel Engine Message-ID: <20020517165918.79877.qmail@web11904.mail.yahoo.com> I don't know how usable they are in a KR, but you can look and make your own decision there. Try.... http://www.wilksch.com/ http://www.dair.co.uk/ You can also do a search on Zoche for his radial diesel, but I've watched him for 4 years now and I have not seen any new information from him. Scott Stanton Raleigh NC --- brunipietro@virgilio.it wrote: > Some one knows something about Diesel Engine > (running with JetA1 fuel) > useble for KR?? > > By > > Pietro.. ===== -- Scott Stanton __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 16:54:19 -0700 To: mailto: From: Glasco Subject: Re: KR> diesel Engine Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20020517165419.008118e0@mail.ridgenet.net> After a long period with no updates both Zoche "http://194.195.219.194/" and DeltaHawk "http://www.deltahawkengines.com/" have recently updated their web sites with "new" information. Another fun site to watch is DynaCam "http://www.dynacam.com/". Awfully pricey but an interesting concept. Brad At 09:59 AM 5/17/02 -0700, you wrote: >I don't know how usable they are in a KR, but you can >look and make your own decision there. Try.... > >http://www.wilksch.com/ >http://www.dair.co.uk/ > >You can also do a search on Zoche for his radial >diesel, but I've watched him for 4 years now and I >have not seen any new information from him. > >Scott Stanton >Raleigh NC > > >--- brunipietro@virgilio.it wrote: >> Some one knows something about Diesel Engine >> (running with JetA1 fuel) >> useble for KR?? >> >> By >> >> Pietro.. > > >===== >-- >Scott Stanton > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience >http://launch.yahoo.com > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > >To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org >For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > >See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ >and at http://www.bouyea.net/ for the older ones > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 16:07:34 -0400 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: "J. C. (Joe) Smith" Subject: Builder's site Message-id: <3CE52AC6.18162.1A9415E@localhost> Yesterday I found a KR2S builder's site but didn't bookmark it. The builder is a photographer or ex-photographer and now lives in New Hampshire. He has even included construction pic's of his electronic engine monitor. Anybody know the link? Thanks J. C. (Joe) Smith, Systems Manager, Office of the Treasurer, The Ohio State University ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 13:38:47 -0700 (PDT) To: smith.3528@osu.edu, krnet@mailinglists.org From: Scott Stanton Subject: Re: KR> Builder's site Message-ID: <20020517203847.62099.qmail@web11907.mail.yahoo.com> I think you were looking at Dave Mullins site http://n323xl.iwarp.com/ But if it wasn't then check out http://www.krnet.org/ for links to many builders sites. Scott Stanton Raleigh NC --- "J. C. (Joe) Smith" wrote: > Yesterday I found a KR2S builder's site but didn't > bookmark it. The > builder is a photographer or ex-photographer and now > lives in New > Hampshire. He has even included construction pic's > of his > electronic engine monitor. Anybody know the link? > > Thanks > J. C. (Joe) Smith, Systems Manager, Office of the > Treasurer, > The Ohio State University > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , > NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: > krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: > krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at > http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ > and at http://www.bouyea.net/ for the older ones > ===== -- Scott Stanton __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 16:32:54 -0500 To: "KRnet" From: "Mark Langford" Subject: Fw: Two KR2S's for sale Message-ID: <001301c1fdea$687afdf0$0100a8c0@TD310> ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C1FDC0.7EFFDC50 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Reply to John, not to "sender"! From: John Scanlan=20 1)KR2S Airplane for sale. Needs motor, engine cowling, outer wings and = instruments. Vertical stabilizer and canopy needs repair. Excellent = craftsmanship throughout, must see to appreciate, located in Dallas, TX. = $3000.00 obo, Ph. 585.964.9604 or john_scanlan@hotmail.com 2)KR2S Project for sale. Completed wooden fuselage, empennage, all 6 = wing spars, and steel wing attach fittings. Also includes prefabricated = fiberglass front cowling, canopy, turtleback, complete empennage skins = and forms to create all the above. Excellent craftsmanship through, must = see to appreciate, located in Dallas, TX. $4000.00 obo, Ph. = 585.964.9604 or john_scanlan@hotmail.com ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C1FDC0.7EFFDC50-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 16:48:09 -0500 To: "KR Net Response" From: "Jim Faughn" Subject: VW Timing Message-ID: As several people know, I have been frustrated with my plane over the past few years because I have not been able to get the engine temperatures where they should be and I haven't gotten the performance the plane should deliver. This problem has been an engine issue and either I haven't understood the instructions or I didn't listen to what I've been told. Either way, the problem existed for too long. After going through a stage of thinking about giving my plane to a museum, I decided that would be giving up and there had to be a better way. I talked to Steve Bennett several times and with his help found that the root cause of the problem had to be timing. I changed out an old ignition system and installed the Compufire ignition. I then timed the system statically and still had the problem. After we determined the problem had to still be timing, it was suggested that I stop relying on static timing and go to timing the system with a timing light. I have to deviate here and say that prior to this point I was hearing a banging that was not good on takeoff and had to reduce power to stop it or I thought something would come apart. What I found with the timing light was the ignition system was set at 52 degrees before top dead center. No that wasn't a typo. After setting the timing to 28 degrees before top dead center at about 2500 rpm, I found the engine ran much smoother and of course on take off I could get full power without the "banging" I had experienced previously. My frustrations are gone, the engine temperatures are back to normal and I have more power than I have ever had. Thanks Steve. Bottom line is that distributors are not all made the same, magnets seem to react differently when firing a hall-effect sensor when set statically verses at RPM and you MUST time your engine with a timing light. Don't just do it statically. Personally, I believe this is probably true with any ignition system you use from a magneto, 009 with points or an electronic ignition system. You just can't trust that everything is manufactured the same and you have to correct for their issues in the final adjustment with a timing light. I have not seen this information previously on the list serve and thought everyone might be interested in the findings. See you at Oshkosh. Happy VW flyer again. Jim Faughn 4323D Laclede Ave. St. Louis, MO 63108 (314)652-7659 Mailto:jfaughn@mvp.net ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 15:37:32 -0700 (PDT) To: KRNET@MAILINGLISTS.ORG From: Rick Wilson Subject: canopy seal Message-ID: <20020517223732.90319.qmail@web21206.mail.yahoo.com> Hi, Thanks to everyone for the information and suggestions about the way to seal the canopy. I am going to go ahead and lay up the glass tapes around the aft edge of my canopy and close it down against the back deck. I am going to try and get it done this weekend and I'll let you know how it turns out. Later I may decide to add the tapes against the back of the lip as Mr. Flesner did his. Thanks again for the info. Rick Wilson. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 17:55:56 -0500 To: "KRNet" From: "Edwin Blocher" Subject: update Message-ID: <003501c1fdf6$0370f0c0$869131cc@cyou.com> ------=_NextPart_000_0030_01C1FDCC.1847D100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The good news is that I am not going to sell my project. After over a = year of selling a house, building a house, moving, landscaping, and lots = of unpacking (which is still not finished), I am again working on 899EB. = I spent this week tapering the bent up center section spars and hope to = have them installed in a few days. What I need most is motivation and do = hope I can make the Gathering. It's 1100 miles from here so I guess I = will have to spend project money and fly commercial.=20 Ed Blocher Santa Rosa Beach, Florida ------=_NextPart_000_0030_01C1FDCC.1847D100-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 17:53:03 -0700 To: From: "jim @ synergy design" Subject: wheels & cowpies. theyre both round Message-ID: <004b01c1fe06$5ed71f60$0101a8c0@pavilion> ------=_NextPart_000_0048_01C1FDCB.B1395EC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I just picked up some 5x5 wheels & tires. Person I purchased from = thought they were Rosenhans. I cant find any markings. 1 1/4 axel, and = the brake discs are mounted on stand-offs cast into one side of wheel, = not the hat style on Clevelands. Anyone have an idea who makes these? = Hey Frank, Come to Colorado, we have TONS of cow pies, I figure it's = about time to send some BACK to Texas! :-)> See Ya, Jim ------=_NextPart_000_0048_01C1FDCB.B1395EC0-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 23:21:47 -0400 (EDT) To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: Subject: O-200, Marty's plane and drag (was - Da pics:-) Message-ID: <2535.216.194.3.210.1021692107.squirrel@www.highlandsystems.com> > You are right about Marty's plane. There's just > something about that 0200. Could it have anything to > do with the balls-to-the-wall way he flies it? Sure is > a joy to watch. > Can't wait to see some of these Corvairs fly... > Frank Ross in San Antonio, TX Guys, Just an observation: There is another guy on the list who has O-200 engine and has Marty's old prop. His top speed is limited to only 160Mph while Marty was flying over 190 with it. According to my estimates his equivalent flat plate drag area is 2.6 sq feet instead of average 1.7 (almost a sq. foot difference!) Where is the problem? I do not know. Wrong wing incidence? Wrong horizonal stab. incidence? Engine cooling air flow? Close examination of Marty's plane could reveal some answers. Just keep in mind the "drag devil" while building George New York ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 21:22:21 -0700 To: From: "Keith S Melvill" Subject: Aircraft Salvage Message-ID: <000001c1fe23$9a963410$0200a8c0@zenmods1> ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C1FDE8.EE38E2B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all, I'm new to the net and have not started building a KR yet, but would like to ask a question. I'm in Southern California and am looking for a good aircraft parts salvage, specifically I'm looking for an autopilot servo. S-TEC wants about $1200 for a new one. Any suggestions? Thanks, Keith Melvill "Maturity consists of no longer being taken in by one's self." Reply to keithstile@earthlink.net Keith ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C1FDE8.EE38E2B0-- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 May 2002 02:01:07 -0700 To: "krnet" From: "Darren Pond" Subject: Weight of 1200cc VW? Message-ID: <001b01c1fe4a$8cb9b3e0$79469d18@cambr.phub.net.cable.rogers.com> ------=_NextPart_000_0018_01C1FE0F.DFFDC7C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Can any one suggest the fire wall forward weight of a 1200 VW? Darren Pond ------=_NextPart_000_0018_01C1FE0F.DFFDC7C0-- ------------------------------ End of krnet Digest ***********************************