From: To: Subject: krnet Digest 25 May 2002 08:48:14 -0000 Issue 437 Date: Saturday, May 25, 2002 1:48 AM krnet Digest 25 May 2002 08:48:14 -0000 Issue 437 Topics (messages 10372 through 10401): Builders list 10372 by: Margi Armstrong 10374 by: idrawtobuild 10376 by: David Mullins Re: Epoxy alergies 10373 by: macwood Re: Builders list - I forgot my phone number 10375 by: idrawtobuild Re: glueing foam 10377 by: Jerry Mahurin 10382 by: Rick Wilson 10383 by: Robert Stone 10386 by: virgnvs.juno.com 10388 by: Daniel Heath 10389 by: Daniel Heath 10390 by: Daniel Heath 10392 by: ROBERT COOPER 10393 by: Mark Jones ADDRESS LIST COLLECTION 10378 by: Ron Thomas 10401 by: Dale Baldwin Kr Builders List 10379 by: Birgit Koennecke KR test 10380 by: lentz henderson people list 10381 by: Rick Wilson 10391 by: Daniel Heath 10394 by: ROBERT COOPER Flight Sim?? 10384 by: James E. Lanier Re: jdbgmgr.exe virus 10385 by: Larry Deckert Re: Epoxy allergies 10387 by: Ron Eason 10396 by: Larry A. Capps Gluing foam 10395 by: ALTODDKR2.aol.com kr pics 10397 by: Rick Wilson KR List 10398 by: D.B.Durgin Expanding foam 10399 by: Rick Taxi comments 10400 by: John and Janet Martindale Administrivia: To subscribe to the digest, e-mail: To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail: To post to the list, e-mail: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 08:28:15 -0400 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: Margi Armstrong Subject: Builders list Message-ID: <3CEE31DE.AFFE9B4B@earthlink.net> Add my name to the list: Rick Armstrong 4522 Whetsel Ave. Cincinnati, Ohio 45227 513-271-2835 margiandrick@earthlink.net KR-2 65% complete V-W 1835 Sometime before I die ,I hope. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 07:24:21 -0700 To: From: "idrawtobuild" Subject: Re: KR> Builders list Message-ID: <004301c2032e$b3a96fc0$6e13fea9@greg> Add my name to the list: Greg S. Martin 24236 Quail Canyon Road Mailing: 20437 Brian Way, Suite E Tehachapi, CA 93561 "e-mail" idrawtobuild@ncinternet.net KR-1 90% - engine & tanks to get back into the air. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 10:53:21 -0400 From: David Mullins CC: krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> Builders list Message-ID: <3CEE53E1.378F4FA8@attbi.com> > Add my name to the list: David Mullins 91A Broad Street Nashua, New Hampshire 03064 603-880-4029 mornings N323XL@attbi.com WEBSITE: http://N323XL.iwarp.com KR2S 70% complete Corvair engine By late summer this year ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 14:23:19 +0100 To: "ROBERT COOPER" From: "macwood" Cc: Subject: Re: KR> Epoxy alergies Message-ID: <003701c20326$cdbab0c0$0dab403e@tinypc> Robert, I got sensitised to epoxy,then found my skin would erupt on contact with any organic filler ,such as the "talc" some makers put in rubber gloves ; the filler put in "athletes foot"powder etc.I now have to check he small print on anything coming into skin contact. Favourites are : Rice starch ,Corn starch etc. Cheers Mac ----- Original Message ----- From: "ROBERT COOPER" To: "krnet" Sent: Friday, May 24, 2002 3:21 AM Subject: KR> Epoxy alergies The last few times I have used epoxy I have had an icht on my arms just above the cuff of the vinyl gloves. I thought I was developing an alergy but now I'm wondering if it could be from the microbaloons. Usually a thorough washing will relive the itch but one time it developed into a rash which went away in about two days. I know several have had epoxy alergies and I was wondering what their symptons were? Jack Cooper mailto:kr2cooper@msn.com http://www.geocities.com/kr2cooper/ Fayetteville, NC. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 07:26:52 -0700 To: From: "idrawtobuild" Subject: Fw: KR> Builders list - I forgot my phone number Message-ID: <004901c2032f$0d2b8f60$6e13fea9@greg> ----- Original Message ----- From: "idrawtobuild" To: Sent: Friday, May 24, 2002 7:24 AM Subject: Re: KR> Builders list Add my name to the list: Greg S. Martin 24236 Quail Canyon Road Mailing: 20437 Brian Way, Suite E Tehachapi, CA 93561 office, 661-823-9401, Cell, 661-204-9723 "e-mail" idrawtobuild@ncinternet.net KR-1 90% - engine & tanks to get back into the air. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 11:26:55 -0400 To: From: "Jerry Mahurin" Subject: Re: KR> glueing foam Message-ID: On Thu, 23 May 2002 23:10:08 -0700 "jim @ synergy design" wrote: >I tried hot glue gun once, it went airborne out the door >. it is impossible to sand .Plus the hot melt glue cools >too fast for larger parts(turtledeck,etc.) it dosent >really spread for a good glue joint either. use a little >micro in the joint. I also use ROO GLUE(trade name) get >it at woodworking supply places. made for melamine/wood/ >foam. thin, spreads evenly, thin glue line ,easy sanding. Jim, Just use the hot melt glue in little dabs to 'tack' the foam in place. It is not supposed to be a structural joint. It does not take much to hold the foam in place firmly enough for sanding. If you should inadvertnly get some above the sanding surface just cut it out.... Of course, you should not have anything, including glue on the surface of the foam that you intend to shape. We have had great results using the hot glue to tack pieces together.... Jerry Mahurin Lugoff, SC http://kr-builder.org http://jerrymahurin.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 15:01:57 -0700 (PDT) To: KRNET@MAILINGLISTS.ORG From: Rick Wilson Subject: glueing foam Message-ID: <20020524220157.5204.qmail@web21206.mail.yahoo.com> Hi, When I wrote that the hot glue was easier to sand, I should have said easier to grind, because that's basically what I wind up doing - cutting it below the sanding surface with a grinder held sideways, then fill the void with micro after sanding the foam to shape and before glassing. Thanks, Rick. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 17:41:17 -0500 To: "KRNet" From: "Robert Stone" Subject: Glueing foam Message-ID: <001001c20374$1e6dd7c0$05d81a18@hot.rr.com> ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C2034A.356E9CE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Netters: =20 I have been reading all the traffic about gluing foam and wondering = if anyone has ever tried to uses that spray foam that comes in a = pressurized can to join two pieces of foam. If it works, it would = eliminate the problem of the glue being harder than the foam thus making = sanding difficult. I have never tried this but if I were building at = the present time I think I would. All of the techniques established as = the best way to build a composite aircraft were something some brave = soul tried Bob Stone, Harker Heights, TX rstone4@hot.rr.com ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C2034A.356E9CE0-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 20:24:36 -0400 To: rstone4@hot.rr.com From: virgnvs@juno.com Cc: krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> Glueing foam Message-ID: <20020524.203548.-72015.0.virgnvs@juno.com> It can expand and put things out of alignment, Virg On Fri, 24 May 2002 17:41:17 -0500 "Robert Stone" writes: > Netters: > I have been reading all the traffic about gluing foam and > wondering if anyone has ever tried to uses that spray foam that > comes in a pressurized can to join two pieces of foam. If it works, > it would eliminate the problem of the glue being harder than the > foam thus making sanding difficult. I have never tried this but if > I were building at the present time I think I would. All of the > techniques established as the best way to build a composite aircraft > were something some brave soul tried > > Bob Stone, Harker Heights, TX > rstone4@hot.rr.com > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 21:49:17 -0700 To: , From: "Daniel Heath" Cc: Subject: RE: KR> Glueing foam Message-ID: Virg is absolutely correct. Spray foam does not stop expanding for a long time and is greatly affected by heat. Get your plane all nice and smooth then take out in the hot sun and wonder where all the bumps came from. Check it out. Daniel R. Heath See our KR2 at: http://kr-builder.org See our EAA Chapter 242 at: WWW.EAA242.ORG -----Original Message----- From: virgnvs@juno.com [mailto:virgnvs@juno.com] Sent: Friday, May 24, 2002 5:25 PM To: rstone4@hot.rr.com Cc: krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> Glueing foam It can expand and put things out of alignment, Virg On Fri, 24 May 2002 17:41:17 -0500 "Robert Stone" writes: > Netters: > I have been reading all the traffic about gluing foam and > wondering if anyone has ever tried to uses that spray foam that > comes in a pressurized can to join two pieces of foam. If it works, > it would eliminate the problem of the glue being harder than the > foam thus making sanding difficult. I have never tried this but if > I were building at the present time I think I would. All of the > techniques established as the best way to build a composite aircraft > were something some brave soul tried > > Bob Stone, Harker Heights, TX > rstone4@hot.rr.com > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ and at http://www.bouyea.net/ for the older ones --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.325 / Virus Database: 182 - Release Date: 2/19/2002 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.325 / Virus Database: 182 - Release Date: 2/19/2002 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 21:51:10 -0700 To: "KRNet" From: "Daniel Heath" Subject: RE: KR> Glueing foam Message-ID: Trust me on this, there is no NO no foam glue that will sand like the foam. Daniel R. Heath See our KR2 at: http://kr-builder.org See our EAA Chapter 242 at: WWW.EAA242.ORG -----Original Message----- From: Robert Stone [mailto:rstone4@hot.rr.com] Sent: Friday, May 24, 2002 3:41 PM To: KRNet Subject: KR> Glueing foam Netters: I have been reading all the traffic about gluing foam and wondering if anyone has ever tried to uses that spray foam that comes in a pressurized can to join two pieces of foam. If it works, it would eliminate the problem of the glue being harder than the foam thus making sanding difficult. I have never tried this but if I were building at the present time I think I would. All of the techniques established as the best way to build a composite aircraft were something some brave soul tried Bob Stone, Harker Heights, TX rstone4@hot.rr.com --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.325 / Virus Database: 182 - Release Date: 2/19/2002 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.325 / Virus Database: 182 - Release Date: 2/19/2002 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 21:54:14 -0700 To: From: "Daniel Heath" Subject: RE: KR> glueing foam Message-ID: Rick, You can also cut it out quite easily with a little zip knife (box cutter). Daniel R. Heath See our KR2 at: http://kr-builder.org See our EAA Chapter 242 at: WWW.EAA242.ORG -----Original Message----- From: Rick Wilson [mailto:rwdw2002@yahoo.com] Sent: Friday, May 24, 2002 3:02 PM To: KRNET@MAILINGLISTS.ORG Subject: KR> glueing foam Hi, When I wrote that the hot glue was easier to sand, I should have said easier to grind, because that's basically what I wind up doing - cutting it below the sanding surface with a grinder held sideways, then fill the void with micro after sanding the foam to shape and before glassing. Thanks, Rick. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ and at http://www.bouyea.net/ for the older ones --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.325 / Virus Database: 182 - Release Date: 2/19/2002 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.325 / Virus Database: 182 - Release Date: 2/19/2002 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 22:32:32 -0400 To: "Robert Stone" , "krnet" From: "ROBERT COOPER" Subject: Re: KR> Glueing foam Message-ID: ------=_NextPart_001_0000_01C20372.E51AF760 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Robert I tried using the spray foam (I think it was called Great Stuff) on the w= ings I was repairing. Some of it never set up hard. It was more like a sp= onge. I had to rip it out and used styrofoam, but I have used two-part fo= am for gluing the styrofoam in place. Use two-part sparingly. Jack Cooper ----- Original Message ----- From: Robert Stone Sent: Friday, May 24, 2002 6:45 PM To: KRNet Subject: KR> Glueing foam Netters: =20 I have been reading all the traffic about gluing foam and wondering = if anyone has ever tried to uses that spray foam that comes in a pressuri= zed can to join two pieces of foam. If it works, it would eliminate the = problem of the glue being harder than the foam thus making sanding diffic= ult. I have never tried this but if I were building at the present time = I think I would. All of the techniques established as the best way to bu= ild a composite aircraft were something some brave soul tried Bob Stone, Harker Heights, TX rstone4@hot.rr.com ------=_NextPart_001_0000_01C20372.E51AF760-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 21:45:18 -0500 To: "Daniel Heath" , From: "Mark Jones" Subject: Re: KR> glueing foam Message-ID: <006e01c20396$35239fa0$c5991f41@wi.rr.com> From experience, the product "Great Stuff" will glue the foam together with a very strong bond but it expands and will leave gaps if you do not spread it evenly. As far as sanding goes, IT SUCKS. It does sand but not nearly as easily as the foam you are bonding. It will also hot wire but will leave a ridge just as sanding it will. I think if you use expanding foam, the best way is to remove a shallow amount with an exacto knife as several have mentioned and use a slurry to fill the void. I was digging through all my remote control building stuff a while ago and found a glue for foam called "Super Z RC 56" The label reads "a strong tacky glue. dries clear and flexible. For bonding vinyl, buty rate styrene, abs plastics and foam. Excellent for plastic canopy installation to wood, foil, fiberglass or painted surfaces. It will withstand shock and vibration." HMMMM, might just have something here. Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel Heath" To: Sent: Friday, May 24, 2002 11:54 PM Subject: RE: KR> glueing foam > Rick, > > You can also cut it out quite easily with a little zip knife (box cutter). > > Daniel R. Heath > > See our KR2 at: http://kr-builder.org > > See our EAA Chapter 242 at: WWW.EAA242.ORG > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rick Wilson [mailto:rwdw2002@yahoo.com] > Sent: Friday, May 24, 2002 3:02 PM > To: KRNET@MAILINGLISTS.ORG > Subject: KR> glueing foam > > > Hi, When I wrote that the hot glue was easier to sand, > I should have said easier to grind, because that's > basically what I wind up doing - cutting it below the > sanding surface with a grinder held sideways, then > fill the void with micro after sanding the foam to > shape and before glassing. Thanks, Rick. > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience > http://launch.yahoo.com > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ > and at http://www.bouyea.net/ for the older ones > > --- > Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.325 / Virus Database: 182 - Release Date: 2/19/2002 > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.325 / Virus Database: 182 - Release Date: 2/19/2002 > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ > and at http://www.bouyea.net/ for the older ones > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 14:15:19 -0400 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: Ron Thomas Subject: ADDRESS LIST COLLECTION Message-ID: <3CEE8337.65AD20C8@mindspring.com> 35 and counting. I recieved an old list from around 1996 that had 291 names and address's + phone #'s. and some call signs. It listed by states. I may use this same format. Those that have already sent your info, how about sending your web address to be added. It presents the info as follows. LAST NAME-FIRST NAME-ADDRESS-CITY-STATE/0R COUNTRY+ZIP--PHONE--MODEL KR-PERCENT OF COMPLETION-YEAR STARTED--TAIL NUMBERS. TO THIS WOULD BE ADDED (E-MAIL ADDRESS AND WEB ADDRESS) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 17:25:53 -0400 To: "Ron Thomas" , From: "Dale Baldwin" Subject: Re: KR> ADDRESS LIST COLLECTION Message-ID: <000001c203c8$39e75680$15e85b0c@computername> Baldwin, Dale 165 Middling Ln. Fayetteville, GA 30214 770-461-1835 KR-2, N813ED Engine (A65) and Tank (Aluminum) to fly started: circa 1975, I purchased project in '79 sketch013@worldnet.att.net ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 14:59:45 -0400 To: From: "Birgit Koennecke" Subject: Kr Builders List Message-ID: Name Henry Koennecke Address North Royalton, Ohio Phone 440-237-0724 E-mail birko@concentric.net Model KR2S Construction about 80% completed. VW engine. Thank you, Henry Koennecke ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 15:27:41 -0500 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: "lentz henderson" Subject: KR test Message-ID: TEST TEST _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 14:47:48 -0700 (PDT) To: KRNET@MAILINGLISTS.ORG From: Rick Wilson Subject: people list Message-ID: <20020524214748.55885.qmail@web21203.mail.yahoo.com> Hi, Here is my addition to the list, Wilson, Rick 6368 Co. Hwy.48, Haleyville, Al. 35565 ph. 205-485-2263 KR2, Completed and ready for taxi testing, purchased in Dec. 2001, N#72LM, Email: rwdw2002@yahoo.com Thanks, Rick Wilson. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 21:55:17 -0700 To: From: "Daniel Heath" Subject: RE: KR> people list Message-ID: Rick, Got any pictures? Daniel R. Heath See our KR2 at: http://kr-builder.org See our EAA Chapter 242 at: WWW.EAA242.ORG -----Original Message----- From: Rick Wilson [mailto:rwdw2002@yahoo.com] Sent: Friday, May 24, 2002 2:48 PM To: KRNET@MAILINGLISTS.ORG Subject: KR> people list Hi, Here is my addition to the list, Wilson, Rick 6368 Co. Hwy.48, Haleyville, Al. 35565 ph. 205-485-2263 KR2, Completed and ready for taxi testing, purchased in Dec. 2001, N#72LM, Email: rwdw2002@yahoo.com Thanks, Rick Wilson. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ and at http://www.bouyea.net/ for the older ones --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.325 / Virus Database: 182 - Release Date: 2/19/2002 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.325 / Virus Database: 182 - Release Date: 2/19/2002 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 22:40:51 -0400 To: "krnet" From: "ROBERT COOPER" Subject: People list Message-ID: ------=_NextPart_001_0001_01C20374.0EA85E00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Cooper, Robert J. (Jack) 5101 Chesapeake Rd. Fayetteville, NC. 28311 KR-2 60% March 2000 Hope to fly by Mar 2003 kr2cooper@msn.com http://www.geocities.com/kr2cooper/ Jack Cooper mailto:kr2cooper@msn.com http://www.geocities.com/kr2cooper/ Fayetteville, NC. ------=_NextPart_001_0001_01C20374.0EA85E00-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 18:47:15 -0400 To: From: "James E. Lanier" Subject: Flight Sim?? Message-ID: <000b01c20375$05b15580$6601a8c0@JimLLaptop> What is the name of the "free download" flight simulator that has been discussed on this list? Thanks, Jim www.chemroc.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 18:08:29 -0600 To: From: "Larry Deckert" Subject: Re: KR> jdbgmgr.exe virus Message-ID: <000c01c20380$4d4e9cd0$02646464@LARRYS> Folks, Here are the instructions we got to restore the file. > > How to restore the Jdbgmgr.exe file > > If you have deleted this file, restoration is optional. However, without > it, some Java applets may not run correctly. This is not a critical system > file. > > > > To restore the file, follow the instructions in the Microsoft Knowledge > Base article Virus Hoax: Microsoft Debugger Registrar for Java (Jdbgmgr.exe) > Is Not a Virus (Q322993) > . > > > > > Larry Deckert > interBiz, a product group of SSA Global Technologies > Technical Consultant > tel: +1 801-619-7635 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Deckert" To: Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 5:51 PM Subject: Re: KR> jdbgmgr.exe virus > Guys, > > This is a hoax. Check the virus info sites. > > The jdbgmgr.exe is the java debug manager. Java code is downloaded some web > pages, and the debug manager is used when there is a java error on a web > page. > > I have a mail from our web manager at work (if I didn't delete the thing!), > I'll post it tomorrow. It has instructions on how to get another jdbgmgr.exe > program if you've deleted it. > > Larry Deckert > SSA Global Technologies > Technical Consultant > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Audrey and Harold Woods" > To: > Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 6:48 AM > Subject: KR> jdbgmgr.exe virus > > > I was given a virus called jdbgmgr.exe which is NOT detected by Norton or > McAfee. It sits quietly in your C drive for 14 days before damaging your > system. It spreads automatically by your address book. It is simple to > detect and delete. It takes only a moment to check as follows. > > 1. Go to Start, go to Find or Search Options. > 2.In the Files/folders option type in the name jdrgmgr.exe > 3.Click Find. ( be sure to check the C drive) > 4.The virus has a little teddy bear icon. DO NOT OPEN IT. > 5.RIGHT click the icon. > 6.DELETE it. It will go to your Recycle bin. > 7.Open your recycle bin, find it and delete it here as well. > > If you had the virus please send a copy of this message to every one on your > address book. > Good luck. Harold Woods. > > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 20:26:15 -0500 To: "Dana Overall" , From: "Ron Eason" Subject: Re: KR> Epoxy allergies Message-ID: <000701c2038b$29c132e0$d6dc1f41@Administration> Some people get reactions, some not. I've been working with the stuff for 20 plus years, epoxy and vinylester resins and never got a reaction. I wear vinyl gloves or liquid gloves, however. We I get it on my skin and it cures it must wear off or I just sand it off with 100 grit. Experiment, get around it, sand it, then to see what happens, then take approate action, you my have to give it up. KRRon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dana Overall" To: Sent: Friday, May 24, 2002 6:35 AM Subject: Re: KR> Epoxy allergies > For everyone out there. > > Be sure and ventilate your work area very, very well when working with > epoxy. Like M. Jones, I hated working with the foam, itches, gets > everywhere, Roo Glue is the ticket. Epoxy soon took #1 on the list of hated > things. I got to the point where my eye lids would swell up and get raw > whenever I mixed epoxy. It seemed like it was coming from the rising fumes > and me hovering over my work. Any area of your body where your get a crease > is an area where chemicals can be trapped. It got to the point, I had to > use a fan to blow the fumes away from the layup or bonding area. Be very, > very careful. Constant exposure to epoxy will build up in your system. > > Off the soapbox......until I can find a picture to post:-) > > Dana Overall > Richmond, KY > 1999 & 2000 National KR Gathering host > http://rvflying.tripod.com > > > >From: "ROBERT COOPER" > >To: "krnet" > >Subject: KR> Epoxy alergies > >Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 22:21:29 -0400 > > > >The last few times I have used epoxy I have had an icht on my arms just > >above the cuff of the vinyl gloves. I thought I was developing an alergy > >but now I'm wondering if it could be from the microbaloons. Usually a > >thorough washing will relive the itch but one time it developed into a rash > >which went away in about two days. I know several have had epoxy alergies > >and I was wondering what their symptons were? > > > >Jack Cooper > >mailto:kr2cooper@msn.com > >http://www.geocities.com/kr2cooper/ > >Fayetteville, NC. > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ > and at http://www.bouyea.net/ for the older ones > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 22:30:23 -0500 To: "KR Builders \(E-mail\)" From: "Larry A. Capps" Cc: "Gary Hunter \(E-mail\)" Subject: Epoxy allergies Message-ID: <001c01c2039c$81707e90$0600a8c0@schpankme> KRNet, Any reaction you suspect from epoxy is caused by the "hardener". All epoxy hardener can be neutralized by rinsing-off with "white vinegar", which changes the chemical structure to a water soluble compound. Now, simply cleanse the skin by washing with soap and water. Since were talking allergic reaction(s), two prime sources for these reactions could come from the powder found in some gloves, and in the use of latex gloves themselves. (note: "amines" used in epoxy hardeners will pass through latex gloves) Best Regards, Larry A. Capps Naperville, IL -----Original Message----- Some people get reactions, some not. I've been working with the stuff for 20 plus years, ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 22:57:42 EDT To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: ALTODDKR2@aol.com Subject: Gluing foam Message-ID: <9e.26d874c7.2a2057a6@aol.com> To the call about using pressurized foam from cans to glue foam components. I used this method to glue the planks of foam which formed the turtledeck. It worked OK, but I found it softer than the foam planks so it was just about as hard to sand as the harder glue. Maybe if you wanted to try some different varieties you might find a good match. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 21:10:18 -0700 (PDT) To: KRNET@MAILINGLISTS.ORG From: Rick Wilson Subject: kr pics Message-ID: <20020525041018.34422.qmail@web21202.mail.yahoo.com> I have some pictures, but no scanner. I've been intending to get a friend to take some with his digital camera and send them, but have not done it yet. I'll try to get some soon. Thanks, Rick Wilson. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 May 2002 01:06:33 -0400 To: From: "D.B.Durgin" Subject: KR List Message-ID: <001801c203a9$f0dbfae0$9158fea9@athlon> ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01C20388.69195A60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Name David B. Durgin Address Cocoa Beach, FL Phone 321-783-6892 E-Mail ddurgin9@bellsouth.net Model KR2 Complete & flying, 1850 VW Thanks Dave Durgin ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01C20388.69195A60-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 23:55:06 -0600 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: Rick Subject: Expanding foam Message-ID: <41ED2F1280124E4D8B88691C9A9B5FDE011B34@mail.binoids.com> Hi Guys Sray foam does expand over a long period and cause mis-alignment. I just did my 3 piece foam seat... Wiped off all the excess etc.. Looked good the first 2 hours. The next morning it had finished expanding all the way??? and had ruined my foam seat. My second foam seat I used 3M 77 spray glue. It worked great and would sand when semi-dry the first day. After the first day it was too hard to sand and I had to cut it out and fill the void with micro. Rick Hubka http://www.hubka.com/kr_main.htm rick@hubka.com 65 Butler Crescent NW Calgary AB T2L 1K4 Canada -----Original Message----- From: virgnvs@juno.com [mailto:virgnvs@juno.com] Sent: Friday, May 24, 2002 6:25 PM To: rstone4@hot.rr.com Cc: krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> Glueing foam It can expand and put things out of alignment, Virg On Fri, 24 May 2002 17:41:17 -0500 "Robert Stone" writes: > Netters: > I have been reading all the traffic about gluing foam and > wondering if anyone has ever tried to uses that spray foam that > comes in a pressurized can to join two pieces of foam. If it works, > it would eliminate the problem of the glue being harder than the > foam thus making sanding difficult. I have never tried this but if > I were building at the present time I think I would. All of the > techniques established as the best way to build a composite aircraft > were something some brave soul tried > > Bob Stone, Harker Heights, TX > rstone4@hot.rr.com > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ and at http://www.bouyea.net/ for the older ones ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 May 2002 18:55:23 +1000 To: "KRnet" From: "John and Janet Martindale" Subject: Taxi comments Message-ID: <003601c203c9$ff9a3040$e8de12d2@m1g0x7> ------=_NextPart_000_0033_01C2041D.B9DC9940 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi folks I've been taxiing around today under Corvair power and had great = difficulty with a delayed steering response due to the compression = springs on the tail wheel cables. The result was continued oversteering = and fishtailing. I then removed the springs and went with a direct cable = to tailwheel connection using light chain and it was a 100 times better. Next I tried full throttle on the brakes when stationary and got a = fright. The Corvair lifted the tail and I just managed to throttle back = and get stick back before I went forward on the nose and lost the prop. = After a bit more practice I was able to balance her on the mains by = playing the throttle....my first controlled view over the nose and an = idea of where to keep the horizon. So, now that I can finally keep it straight while taxiing and raise the = tail under control, I'm ready for the next thing... causing the tower = more mirth whilst I try it at higher speeds!! Temperatures taxiing after 3/4 hour were stable at Oil 90 C, CHT 204 C = and EGT about 1050 F. So far so good!! See Ya John and Janet Martindale 29 Jane Circuit TOORMINA NSW 2452 AUSTRALIA ph: 61 2 66584767 ------=_NextPart_000_0033_01C2041D.B9DC9940-- ------------------------------ End of krnet Digest ***********************************