From: To: Subject: krnet Digest 28 May 2002 15:00:58 -0000 Issue 439 Date: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 8:01 AM krnet Digest 28 May 2002 15:00:58 -0000 Issue 439 Topics (messages 10432 through 10461): Re: Speaking of Foam 10432 by: w.g. kirkland Re: Subaru Engine Questions 10433 by: Darren Pond 10444 by: Mark Langford 10461 by: Frank Ross sizing cabin heat rad? 10434 by: Darren Pond 10453 by: w.g. kirkland OT Question 10435 by: Kerry Miller 10440 by: Robert Stone Re: Questions about ignition 10436 by: Tom Crawford 10437 by: Shawn Christopherson people list 10438 by: rfarmer 10439 by: rfarmer patching plywood 10441 by: Rick Wilson 10442 by: Lynn Hyder 10443 by: cartera 10460 by: RONALD.FREIBERGER Porsche engine 10445 by: hommevolant.sympatico.ca Progress 10446 by: Mark Jones Update 10447 by: Mark Jones 10448 by: Mike Mims 10457 by: Daniel Heath Fuel tanks 10449 by: clappw.bellsouth.net 10451 by: TONY SOLDANO 10454 by: Livingstone, Danny (DJ) Corvair College 10450 by: clappw.bellsouth.net A Dream 10452 by: hommevolant.sympatico.ca 10456 by: Daniel Heath 10459 by: Frank Ross Fuel tanks - Foamex 10455 by: Larry A. Capps 10458 by: Ron Eason Administrivia: To subscribe to the digest, e-mail: To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail: To post to the list, e-mail: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 27 May 2002 00:05:46 -0400 To: "Mark Jones" , "KR-Net" From: "w.g. kirkland" Subject: Re: KR> Speaking of Foam Message-ID: <006501c20533$c84c26a0$96b45bd1@utboopki> Mark; I use a white, paint suit. They are inexpensive $10 Can< and airtight. They are a bit hot though. I started using one when I was having trouble with epoxy. Just find it keeps my shirt klean as I tend to get epoxy or glue on everything but the parts:0) W.G.(Bill) KIRKLAND kirkland@vianet.on.ca ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Jones" To: "KR-Net" Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 7:47 PM Subject: KR> Speaking of Foam I hate the stuff.....gets everywhere when you sand it.......up my nose....in my ears...in my crotch....in my eyes......all over the dang place.........and I still have not figured the best way to glue the pieces together. Please enlighten me on the best method for gluing this God forbidden stuff. Thanks Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 May 2002 00:51:42 -0700 To: "Phillip Matheson" , "krnet" From: "Darren Pond" Subject: Re: KR> Subaru Engine Questions Message-ID: <001301c20553$57c751a0$79469d18@cambr.phub.net.cable.rogers.com> Hi All I think there are several flying and several others mine included on the way. Look on the Yahoo group list under airsoob groups. Contact me for specific names if your interested. Darren P 2.2turbo just waiting to get a fuselage fitting. ----- Original Message ----- From: Phillip Matheson To: Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2002 4:43 PM Subject: KR> Subaru Engine Questions Is anyone out there flying with a Subaru Gear Reduction engine in their KR2 or S I would like to hear from them or contact them to find out all about their engine performance Phil Matheson matheson@dodo.com.au ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 May 2002 17:32:08 -0500 To: From: "Mark Langford" Subject: Re: KR> Subaru Engine Questions Message-ID: <014401c205ce$56834300$7600a8c0@athlon600> >Is anyone out there flying with a Subaru Gear Reduction engine in their KR2 or S I would like to hear from them or contact them to find out all about their engine performance< Phillip, I talked to Steve Makish yesterday about his Subaru, which weighed more than his Corvair installation. He sold the Soob setup after putting 400 hours on it and wearing it out. He can turn the same prop faster with the lighter Corvair engine. He said "I'll never go back"... Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama mailto:langford@hiwaay.net see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 07:48:39 -0700 (PDT) To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: Frank Ross Subject: Re: KR> Subaru Engine Questions Message-ID: <20020528144839.65532.qmail@web21510.mail.yahoo.com> Philip Les Palmer has a Subaru powered KR-2 and I know he is not on KRnet. You may be able to contact him at Les Palmer 3247 High Lark, Dallas, TX 75234 I am not certain that this address is up-to-date, but I cannot find anything newer. I'm not including his telephone number because I know you are too far away to be calling on the phone for very long. Les LOVES to talk about Subarus and KRs. If you find yourself in Dallas, he will probably show you his plane and every wonderful little detail (and there are many) on the plane. I also suspect it may be easier for you to find a Subaru engine than a Chevrolet Corvair engine in Australia. You may find others using Subaru engines with reduction drives by putting 'Subaru' in your internet search engine and looking for Soob airplane networks. I know there are some on the Dragonfly net and they are very willing to discuss their projects. Either way, good luck. Frank Ross, San Antonio, TX --- Phillip Matheson wrote: > Is anyone out there flying with a Subaru Gear > Reduction engine in their KR2 or S > I would like to hear from them or contact them to > find out all about their engine performance > Phil Matheson > matheson@dodo.com.au __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 May 2002 00:58:17 -0700 To: "krnet" , "airsoob" From: "Darren Pond" Subject: sizing cabin heat rad? Message-ID: <003401c20554$42e6aa00$79469d18@cambr.phub.net.cable.rogers.com> ------=_NextPart_000_0031_01C20519.9633E5A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Can any one suggest a rule of thumb for cabin heat radiator or their set = up? What amount of air is required to be effective (size of NACA scoop) = ? Do you plumb the rad in parallel or series Darren P ------=_NextPart_000_0031_01C20519.9633E5A0-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 00:25:05 -0400 To: "Darren Pond" , "krnet" , "airsoob" From: "w.g. kirkland" Subject: Re: KR> sizing cabin heat rad? Message-ID: <001f01c205ff$a5c75a60$23b45bd1@utboopki> Re subaru cabin heat ; I bought a rad from someone elses project. It is about 6 x 8" single pass. Would like to hear from anyone who has experience with the size of the air scoup. W.G.(Bill) KIRKLAND kirkland@vianet.on.ca ----- Original Message ----- From: "Darren Pond" To: "krnet" ; "airsoob" Sent: Monday, May 27, 2002 3:58 AM Subject: KR> sizing cabin heat rad? Can any one suggest a rule of thumb for cabin heat radiator or their set up? What amount of air is required to be effective (size of NACA scoop) ? Do you plumb the rad in parallel or series Darren P ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 May 2002 06:57:27 -0500 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: Kerry Miller Subject: OT Question Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20020527065727.007bccc0@pop3.ticnet.com> The old "people list" database is in MS Works, does anybody have Works on their computer who could convert the file for us? If you have it, I can get you the instructions on how to do it. Thanks, Kerry ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 May 2002 09:39:34 -0500 To: , "Kerry Miller" From: "Robert Stone" Subject: Re: KR> OT Question Message-ID: <000f01c2058c$51f890c0$05d81a18@hot.rr.com> Kerry: I have Microsoft Works on my computer as a part of Windows 98, second edition. I am fairly new to the computer but will try to convert the file if you will send detailed instructions using as little computer language as possible. Bob Stone, Harker Heights, TX rstone4@hot.rr.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kerry Miller" To: Sent: Monday, May 27, 2002 6:57 AM Subject: KR> OT Question > The old "people list" database is in MS Works, does anybody have Works on > their computer who could convert the file for us? If you have it, I can > get you the instructions on how to do it. > > Thanks, > Kerry > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ > and at http://www.bouyea.net/ for the older ones > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 May 2002 08:14:45 -0400 To: Shawn Christopherson From: Tom Crawford CC: KR Net Mailing List Subject: Re: KR> Questions about ignition Message-ID: <3CF22335.7DB0@ufl.edu> Shawn Christopherson wrote: I got the plane out of the hanger and > found that my points were bad. The engine is a VW Type IV 2400cc. I > replaced them Saturday morning and it started fine, but I got a fouled plug > in #4 (I had that happen before and a new plug fixed it). After the first > running when I noticed the backfiring, I touched all of the plugs and found > that they were all hot. I pulled them and found that #4 was fouled. All of > the plugs are new as of about 2hrs of running time on them. Shawn, What carb are you using? Sounds more like a carb problem than an ignition problem. Tom Crawford Gainesville, FL N262TC Sold N???TC Fuse Mailto:toys@ufl.edu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 May 2002 08:47:23 -0400 To: "KR Net Mailing List" , From: "Shawn Christopherson" Subject: RE: KR> Questions about ignition Message-ID: Good morning all, Thanks for all of the advice. I am on my way to the airport in a few minutes. The carb is a Revflow. I will try the plug in another cylinder and a new plug in the suspected bad one. I think I will replace the condenser to. Does anyone know a good way to test the condenser? Thanks and Happy Memorial Day, Shawn Christopherson http://ifly99.tripod.com Gardner, MA ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 May 2002 08:47:50 -0400 To: "krnet" From: "rfarmer" Subject: people list Message-ID: <000e01c2057c$b6fe5500$315f62d8@oemcomputer> ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C2055B.2F01B8C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Farmer, Robert 105 Boxer Lane Fries, VA 24330 =20 276-744 7115 KR2 boat stage ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C2055B.2F01B8C0-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 May 2002 08:50:41 -0400 To: "krnet" From: "rfarmer" Subject: people list Message-ID: <001e01c2057d$1c9b8400$315f62d8@oemcomputer> ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C2055B.94C20020 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable with e-mail address this time Farmer, Robert 105 Boxer Lane Fries, VA 24330 =20 276-744 7115 rfarmer@naxs.net KR2 boat stage ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C2055B.94C20020-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 May 2002 12:29:03 -0700 (PDT) To: KRNET@MAILINGLISTS.ORG From: Rick Wilson Subject: patching plywood Message-ID: <20020527192903.44388.qmail@web21206.mail.yahoo.com> Hi, I found a crack in the paint on the fuselage side about 8" aft of the instrument panel and running from about 4" below the top longeron to about 7" below the longeron(about 3" long). I sanded the paint off and found it to be an old patch over a place where the plywood had delaminated. They just put a layer of glass cloth over the place and then smoothed it over with micro. I've removed the old glass and micro and got down to the wood about 3 to 4 inches all the way around the old patched place. My question is what is the best way to fix this place so that it doesn't come back? I also removed the delaminated layer of wood. The remaining plies are very thin and won't stand a lot of pressure being applied. Should I start with flox and then overlay with glass or what should I do? Any help or suggestions will be appreciated. P.S. I think I'll probably wind up having to remove the upholstery from the inside and gluing a patch plate of plywood over it on the inside also. Any suggestions? Thanks, Rick Wilson. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 May 2002 13:33:30 -0700 To: rwdw2002@yahoo.com, KRNET@MAILINGLISTS.ORG From: "Lynn Hyder" Subject: Re: KR> patching plywood Message-ID: Rick---- Anytime the paint gets damaged this problem could happen again. I think I would treat it the same as damage to glass skin and layer in several layers of cloth to surface level. I chose to glass the entire fuselage on mine after seeing this on some of the older KRs and was still able to keep it under 550 LBS, even with a 0-235. LYNN N37LH >From: Rick Wilson > >Hi, I found a crack in the paint on the fuselage side >about 8" aft of the instrument panel and running from >about 4" below the top longeron to about 7" below the >longeron(about 3" long). I sanded the paint off and >found it to be an old patch over a place where the >plywood had delaminated. They just put a layer of >glass cloth over the place and then smoothed it over >with micro. I've removed the old glass and micro and >got down to the wood about 3 to 4 inches all the way >around the old patched place. My question is what is >the best way to fix this place so that it doesn't come >back? I also removed the delaminated layer of wood. >The remaining plies are very thin and won't stand a >lot of pressure being applied. Should I start with >flox and then overlay with glass or what should I do? >Any help or suggestions will be appreciated. P.S. I >think I'll probably wind up having to remove the >upholstery from the inside and gluing a patch plate of >plywood over it on the inside also. Any suggestions? >Thanks, Rick Wilson. > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 May 2002 14:52:02 -0600 To: Rick Wilson From: cartera CC: KRNET@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> patching plywood Message-ID: <3CF29C72.F35A7C38@cuug.ab.ca> Hi Gang & Rick, This is how I would do it for myself, make sure there is no bad wood, don't use flox at this point but sand it down with about 60-80 sandpaper and build it up from the inside out, cut glass the size of the lowest point in the hole and increase size of each layer until your at the surface and the last layer/ply extend edges at least two inches beyond the edge of fracture, this may have to be done on different days of depending on the resin your using maybe hours then let it cure well and sand with 120 and trim with micro. You should be able to get it done that one never sees any repair. If you can get to the inside without having to rip things out a layer of glass in here would not hurt, but if you have to take things out, don't bother because this is not a high stress area. Good Luck! Am sure others have their ideas, but I like the KISS. Rick Wilson wrote: > > Hi, I found a crack in the paint on the fuselage side > about 8" aft of the instrument panel and running from > about 4" below the top longeron to about 7" below the > longeron(about 3" long). I sanded the paint off and > found it to be an old patch over a place where the > plywood had delaminated. They just put a layer of > glass cloth over the place and then smoothed it over > with micro. I've removed the old glass and micro and > got down to the wood about 3 to 4 inches all the way > around the old patched place. My question is what is > the best way to fix this place so that it doesn't come > back? I also removed the delaminated layer of wood. > The remaining plies are very thin and won't stand a > lot of pressure being applied. Should I start with > flox and then overlay with glass or what should I do? > Any help or suggestions will be appreciated. P.S. I > think I'll probably wind up having to remove the > upholstery from the inside and gluing a patch plate of > plywood over it on the inside also. Any suggestions? > Thanks, Rick Wilson. > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup > http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ > and at http://www.bouyea.net/ for the older ones -- Adrian VE6AFY Calgary, Alberta Mailto:cartera@cuug.ab.ca http://www.cuug.ab.ca/~cartera ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 09:59:27 -0400 To: "Rick Wilson" , From: "RONALD.FREIBERGER" Subject: RE: KR> patching plywood Message-ID: FAA Advisory Circular 43.13-1B will tell you all about it, and every builder ought to have a copy. Currently about 720 pages, available from various suppliers at about $20. Ron Freiberger..EAA Tech Counselor #4125. mailto:ron.martha@mindspring.com -----Original Message----- From: Rick Wilson [mailto:rwdw2002@yahoo.com] Sent: Monday, May 27, 2002 3:29 PM To: KRNET@MAILINGLISTS.ORG Subject: KR> patching plywood Hi, I found a crack in the paint on the fuselage side about 8" aft of the instrument panel and running from about 4" below the top longeron to about 7" below the longeron(about 3" long). I sanded the paint off and found it to be an old patch over a place where the plywood had delaminated. They just put a layer of glass cloth over the place and then smoothed it over with micro. I've removed the old glass and micro and got down to the wood about 3 to 4 inches all the way around the old patched place. My question is what is the best way to fix this place so that it doesn't come back? I also removed the delaminated layer of wood. The remaining plies are very thin and won't stand a lot of pressure being applied. Should I start with flox and then overlay with glass or what should I do? Any help or suggestions will be appreciated. P.S. I think I'll probably wind up having to remove the upholstery from the inside and gluing a patch plate of plywood over it on the inside also. Any suggestions? Thanks, Rick Wilson. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ and at http://www.bouyea.net/ for the older ones ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 May 2002 19:32:51 -0400 To: From: Subject: Porsche engine Message-Id: <20020527233251.XYND8548.tomts6-srv.bellnexxia.net@[209.226.175.15]> A friend of me offered me a Porsche engine 6cyl. flat & aircooled as VW. Is there anybody who have any comments about that ? Performance/Weight/Raliability Thanks........... Have fun Francois Poirier hommevolant@sympatico.ca ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 May 2002 19:50:31 -0500 To: "KR-Net" From: "Mark Jones" Subject: Progress Message-ID: <005301c205e1$ab0c84a0$c5991f41@wi.rr.com> ------=_NextPart_000_0050_01C205B7.C2042200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I finally made a little progress today on my 2S. I applied two coats of = smooth prime. What a difference it makes not to see all that wood any = more. This was a great motivator, for some reason, it really got me = pumped up again. That paint makes me feel like I am working on a new = airplane. Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA=20 E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at =20 http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html ------=_NextPart_000_0050_01C205B7.C2042200-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 May 2002 20:18:14 -0500 To: "KR-Net" , "CorvAircraft" From: "Mark Jones" Subject: Update Message-ID: <006701c205e5$8ab0fde0$c5991f41@wi.rr.com> ------=_NextPart_000_0064_01C205BB.A19F7380 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Check out a photo of my plane with two coats of Smooth Prime on my web = page link below. Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA=20 E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at =20 http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html ------=_NextPart_000_0064_01C205BB.A19F7380-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 May 2002 18:24:28 -0700 (PDT) To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: Mike Mims Subject: Re: KR> Update Message-ID: <20020528012428.72101.qmail@web10803.mail.yahoo.com> --0-945248798-1022549068=:69293 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Two thunbs up!!! I remember those days..... Mark Jones wrote: Check out a photo of my plane with two coats of Smooth Prime on my web page link below. Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup --0-945248798-1022549068=:69293-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 05:47:39 -0700 To: "KR-Net" From: "Daniel Heath" Subject: RE: KR> Update Message-ID: Mark, That looks great. On the advise of some of you on the net, Jerry has ordered some Smooth Prime for us and I am really pumped to try it out. Daniel R. Heath See our KR2 at: http://kr-builder.org See our EAA Chapter 242 at: WWW.EAA242.ORG -----Original Message----- From: Mark Jones [mailto:flykr2s@wi.rr.com] Sent: Monday, May 27, 2002 6:18 PM To: KR-Net; CorvAircraft Subject: KR> Update Check out a photo of my plane with two coats of Smooth Prime on my web page link below. Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.325 / Virus Database: 182 - Release Date: 2/19/2002 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.325 / Virus Database: 182 - Release Date: 2/19/2002 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 09:48:58 -0400 To: From: Subject: Fuel tanks Message-ID: <001301c2064e$6b099100$26861442@h1x1g0> ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C2062C.E3794B20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Has anyone thought about putting in aluminum tanks out of aluminum pipe = along the packside of the main outboard spars? A 5" tube 5' long gives = you 5 gallons - a 6" tube 5 ' long gives you 7.3 gallons - And a 10" = round * 34" long header tank is 11.5 gallons. Seems it could be an easy = way to manufacture a tank that could be removed from the wing (removed) = and from the forward turtledeck. I believe the 5" wing tube would still = fit in the taper at lower end - Two tubes back to back could also be = installed. Welding on end caps, vents and fill would be easy, you would = get every drop out of wing tanks due to dihedral, easy to check for = contamination and filler would be toward the tip. Can anyone think of a = reason it may not work. I plan to use stock ailerons so cables would = not be in the way. They allready make and aluminum tank that should fit = as a header (VW sand rails) Just have to modify slightly. Throw me = some suggestions - Ive also looked in at plastic tanks, Also a = possibility. BILL ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C2062C.E3794B20-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 May 2002 21:51:52 -0400 To: , From: "TONY SOLDANO" Subject: Re: KR> Fuel tanks Message-ID: <000801c205ea$3e081b40$aecdd03f@compaq> Bill I am using the tank from my old water softener for a header tank.should get right around ten gallons with minor mods. -----Original Message----- From: clappw@bellsouth.net To: krnet@mailinglists.org Date: Monday, May 27, 2002 9:55 PM Subject: KR> Fuel tanks Has anyone thought about putting in aluminum tanks out of aluminum pipe along the packside of the main outboard spars? A 5" tube 5' long gives you 5 gallons - a 6" tube 5 ' long gives you 7.3 gallons - And a 10" round * 34" long header tank is 11.5 gallons. Seems it could be an easy way to manufacture a tank that could be removed from the wing (removed) and from the forward turtledeck. I believe the 5" wing tube would still fit in the taper at lower end - Two tubes back to back could also be installed. Welding on end caps, vents and fill would be easy, you would get every drop out of wing tanks due to dihedral, easy to check for contamination and filler would be toward the tip. Can anyone think of a reason it may not work. I plan to use stock ailerons so cables would not be in the way. They allready make and aluminum tank that should fit as a header (VW sand rails) Just have to modify slightly. Throw me some suggestions - Ive also looked in at plastic tanks, Also a possibility. BILL ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 07:18:56 +0200 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: "Livingstone, Danny (DJ)" Subject: RE: KR> Fuel tanks Message-ID: > Has anyone thought about putting in aluminum tanks out of aluminum pipe > -----------SNIP------------- One of the problems you may encounter is the fuel that may move to the outer ends of the tank during slips causing an imbalance. Baffles could be used to minimize this. Spin performance/recovery will probably also take a serious knock. Any thoughts? Danny Livingstone South Africa ********************************************************************** This e-mail and its attachments, if any, are intended only for use by the named addressee(s) and may contain information that is legally privileged, confidential, or both. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are strictly prohibited from disseminating, distributing or copying this email and its attachments, if any. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender and permanently delete the original and any copies of this e-mail, its attachments, and any printed copies of any of them. ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 09:54:20 -0400 To: From: Subject: Corvair College Message-ID: <001e01c2064f$301ec0a0$26861442@h1x1g0> ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C2062D.A352C200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Just got back from Corvair College - Learned a lost there Steve Makish, = Mark Langford, and many others were there to lend a hand, suggestions = and work on their own engines. Bought my Corvair and broke it down. = AMAZING! One piston had lost the entire top and it was in pieces in the = pan - The thing apparently was still running for some time after! = Really tough engine. Dropped case and heads off at machine shop today - = William Wynne is a good guy to get to know - take his advise seriously. = He knows what he is talking about. Congratulations to Mark on running = up his 3100. Very impressive. Can't wait to see it pull that beautiful = plane around. It was a well spent weekend. BILL ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C2062D.A352C200-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 May 2002 23:21:03 -0400 To: From: Subject: A Dream Message-Id: <20020528032103.CFVV3010.tomts15-srv.bellnexxia.net@[209.226.175.15]> Hi gang, I know that the KR-2 was design for its performance VS his price. But all of you should have a look at this, it as been sent to me by a friend as a response at my Porsche Eng. question. Check this and click on Requests link to get the video at: http://www.atpcoinc.com Have some nice dreams Francois Poirier Hommevolant@sympatico.ca ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 05:39:19 -0700 To: From: "Daniel Heath" Subject: RE: KR> A Dream Message-ID: This looks really neat. I have requested the size, weight and price of the 120HP model, as that information could not be found on the site by me. Daniel R. Heath See our KR2 at: http://kr-builder.org See our EAA Chapter 242 at: WWW.EAA242.ORG -----Original Message----- From: hommevolant@sympatico.ca [mailto:hommevolant@sympatico.ca] Sent: Monday, May 27, 2002 8:21 PM To: krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: KR> A Dream Hi gang, I know that the KR-2 was design for its performance VS his price. But all of you should have a look at this, it as been sent to me by a friend as a response at my Porsche Eng. question. Check this and click on Requests link to get the video at: http://www.atpcoinc.com Have some nice dreams Francois Poirier Hommevolant@sympatico.ca --------------------------------------------------------------------- To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ and at http://www.bouyea.net/ for the older ones --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.325 / Virus Database: 182 - Release Date: 2/19/2002 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.325 / Virus Database: 182 - Release Date: 2/19/2002 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 07:06:16 -0700 (PDT) To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: Frank Ross Subject: Re: KR> A Dream Message-ID: <20020528140616.79935.qmail@web21504.mail.yahoo.com> Francois, One of the most difficult problems of Porsche engines or cars, is the price of replacement parts. If it makes the required power at the required revolutions for flying, cost of repairs may become your limiting factor. The name Porsche (at least in the US) increases the cost of parts astronomically. There is a turboprop KR flying in the US. I have only seen pictures of it, but, it sure makes you start dreaming. Frank Ross in San Antonio, TX USA > Check this and click on Requests link to get the > video at: http://www.atpcoinc.com > Have some nice dreams > Francois Poirier > Hommevolant@sympatico.ca __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 02:05:09 -0500 To: "KR Builders \(E-mail\)" From: "Larry A. Capps" Subject: Fuel tanks - Foamex Message-ID: <001201c20616$01a394a0$0600a8c0@schpankme> Foamex Polyurethane Safety Foam (Reticulated Foam) Reticulated or "safety foam" has been used over 30 years in fuel tank construction in military aircraft and land vehicles to reduce fuel surge and slosh, and to prevent the sudden redistribution of mass, significantly improving fuel flow performance. The safety foam provides electrostatic suppression and explosion suppression, two extremely important features. The foam core reduces the possibility of fuel cell rupture and provides shock absorption to prevent an explosion in serious crashes. A passive system, continuously on guard. It adds minimal weight, reducing usable fuel by less than 4%. see archives (Reticulated Foam) Larry A. Capps Naperville, IL fuel, tank, header, gallons, sloshing, baffle -----Original Message----- fuel that may move to the outer ends of the tank during slips causing an imbalance. Baffles could be used to minimize this. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 05:59:54 -0500 To: , "KR Builders \(E-mail\)" From: "Ron Eason" Subject: Re: KR> Fuel tanks - Foamex Message-ID: <001401c20636$cc8a1fc0$d6dc1f41@Administration> I have it in my tanks, it can be purchased at most auto performance outlets. KRRon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry A. Capps" To: "KR Builders (E-mail)" Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 2:05 AM Subject: KR> Fuel tanks - Foamex > Foamex Polyurethane Safety Foam (Reticulated Foam) > > Reticulated or "safety foam" has been used over 30 years in fuel tank > construction in military aircraft and land vehicles to reduce fuel surge and > slosh, and to prevent the sudden redistribution of mass, significantly > improving fuel flow performance. The safety foam provides electrostatic > suppression and explosion suppression, two extremely important features. The > foam core reduces the possibility of fuel cell rupture and provides shock > absorption to prevent an explosion in serious crashes. A passive system, > continuously on guard. It adds minimal weight, reducing usable fuel by less > than 4%. > > > see archives (Reticulated Foam) > > > Larry A. Capps > Naperville, IL > > > > fuel, tank, header, gallons, sloshing, baffle > > -----Original Message----- > fuel that may move to the outer > ends of the tank during slips causing an imbalance. > > Baffles could be used to > minimize this. > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ > and at http://www.bouyea.net/ for the older ones > > ------------------------------ End of krnet Digest ***********************************