From: To: Subject: krnet Digest 31 May 2002 22:24:15 -0000 Issue 441 Date: Friday, May 31, 2002 3:24 PM krnet Digest 31 May 2002 22:24:15 -0000 Issue 441 Topics (messages 10491 through 10515): Re: electric trim 10491 by: virgnvs.juno.com Re: Space Travel 10492 by: virgnvs.juno.com Re: trim tab 10493 by: virgnvs.juno.com 10501 by: Ron Eason 10505 by: lounsbur.midmaine.com 10506 by: Shawn Christopherson 10508 by: larry flesner 10514 by: Gary Sprunger Re: trim tabs 10494 by: virgnvs.juno.com Re: Questions about ignition 10495 by: Paul H Mueller returned mail 10496 by: Philip Heavirland Re: Fuel tanks 10497 by: TONY SOLDANO blders. list 10498 by: JIM P GLENN condenser for vw 10499 by: Rick Wilson electric mirrors 10500 by: Rick Wilson Piano wire for trim tab 10502 by: Frederic Livesey engine list 10503 by: rfarmer polliwagon 10504 by: claude denoncourt Re: Size Weight and Price 10507 by: Daniel Heath Re: KR PEOPLE LIST 10509 by: David Hartz Elevator Trim 10510 by: Robert Stone 10512 by: Jeff York 10515 by: Rick Wilson Trim 10511 by: stickandrudder.cs.com Cowling 10513 by: Bob Sauer Administrivia: To subscribe to the digest, e-mail: To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail: To post to the list, e-mail: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 13:28:17 -0400 To: mike@wolftreeinc.com From: virgnvs@juno.com Cc: krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> RE: electric trim Message-ID: <20020529.140453.-441219.1.virgnvs@juno.com> G M products also have them. Check your U PULL IT salvage yard, Virg On Wed, 29 May 2002 05:58:00 -0400 "Mike" writes: > I heard it here someone talked about a small electric motor for a > trim servo. I remember seeing a small remote mirror on a White > Frieghtliner, passenger side rear view mirror, guees I'll be > junkyard shoppin for mine. It was a 1999 fld series truck I think. > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 13:50:28 -0400 To: ron@jrl-engineering.com From: virgnvs@juno.com Cc: krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> Fw: Space Travel Message-ID: <20020529.140453.-441219.2.virgnvs@juno.com> Fantastic, Virg (nuff said) On Wed, 29 May 2002 05:39:36 -0500 "Ron Eason" writes: > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ron Eason" > To: "krnet" > Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 9:21 PM > Subject: KR> Fw: Space Travel > > > This is a very good site to show your kids and you my enjoy it also. > Always > wanted to put one of the Gemini Secondary Propulsion Rockets I use > to test > on a plane[ 250 Lbs thrust weight is about 2 lbs. only one problem > burns red > fumic nitric acid and UDMH (Hydrazine)] Had allot of fun with it. > > KRRon > > Subject: Space Travel > > Did you say,"Fly me to the moon." Here you go, and then some. > KRRon > SpaceWander Roundtrip First Class > http://www.spacewander.com/USA/english.html > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply > all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ > and at http://www.bouyea.net/ for the older ones > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 13:25:11 -0400 To: ron@jrl-engineering.com From: virgnvs@juno.com Cc: jalan@axion.net, flesner@midwest.net, timwbrown@yahoo.com, krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> trim tab Message-ID: <20020529.140453.-441219.0.virgnvs@juno.com> Was that AEROTRIM ? Virg On Tue, 28 May 2002 21:12:23 -0500 "Ron Eason" writes: > I brought mine at Oshkosh from a vender in Florida he has sales when > he goes > up their. STC'd for allot of spam cans. Came complete with switch > wiring > instructions and position indicator. He will haggle with you on > price. > > KRRon > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jan Laan" > To: "larry flesner" ; "Tim Brown" > ; "Group KR NET" > Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 8:20 PM > Subject: Re: KR> trim tab > > > > I would think that everything you need to build an electric trim > tab > > system can be had for free and in abundance. > > > > Dot matrix printers are thrown out by the hundreds.The local SA > > thriftstore doesn't offer them for resale anymore because there's > > no market. > > > > All you need is an electronics guru to tie it all together again > > in trim tab fashion after the printer has been taken apart. > > Those motors are all high-quality. > > > > > I'm looking to go electric trim setup to eliminate > > >all slop at the trim tab but don't like the price of the "Mac > trim" at > > >$220 . I'm hoping to find something less expensive but I may > have to > > >bite the bullet. I'm coming down the home stretch on completion > and > > >don't have a lot of time left to change it. Anyone got a used > system > > >they are wanting to sell???? > > > > > >Larry Flesne > > > > Jan Laan > > > > - > > >To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply > all" > > > > > >To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > > >For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > > > > >See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ > > >and at http://www.bouyea.net/ for the older ones > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply > all" > > > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ > > and at http://www.bouyea.net/ for the older ones > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply > all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ > and at http://www.bouyea.net/ for the older ones > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 21:09:52 -0500 To: From: "Ron Eason" Cc: , , , Subject: Re: KR> trim tab Message-ID: <003f01c2077f$15dd9780$d6dc1f41@Administration> Yes, Phone: 205-864-3336, 1130 102ST Harbor FL. 33154 I don't know if its current. KRRon ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Cc: ; ; ; Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 12:25 PM Subject: Re: KR> trim tab > Was that AEROTRIM ? Virg > > On Tue, 28 May 2002 21:12:23 -0500 "Ron Eason" > writes: > > I brought mine at Oshkosh from a vender in Florida he has sales when > > he goes > > up their. STC'd for allot of spam cans. Came complete with switch > > wiring > > instructions and position indicator. He will haggle with you on > > price. > > > > KRRon > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Jan Laan" > > To: "larry flesner" ; "Tim Brown" > > ; "Group KR NET" > > Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 8:20 PM > > Subject: Re: KR> trim tab > > > > > > > I would think that everything you need to build an electric trim > > tab > > > system can be had for free and in abundance. > > > > > > Dot matrix printers are thrown out by the hundreds.The local SA > > > thriftstore doesn't offer them for resale anymore because there's > > > no market. > > > > > > All you need is an electronics guru to tie it all together again > > > in trim tab fashion after the printer has been taken apart. > > > Those motors are all high-quality. > > > > > > > I'm looking to go electric trim setup to eliminate > > > >all slop at the trim tab but don't like the price of the "Mac > > trim" at > > > >$220 . I'm hoping to find something less expensive but I may > > have to > > > >bite the bullet. I'm coming down the home stretch on completion > > and > > > >don't have a lot of time left to change it. Anyone got a used > > system > > > >they are wanting to sell???? > > > > > > > >Larry Flesne > > > > > > Jan Laan ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 17:36:51 -0400 To: From: lounsbur@midmaine.com Subject: trim tab Message-Id: <3.0.2.32.20020530173651.00aa518c@pop3.norton.antivirus> The trim tab that i use on my KR2 was was made out of a speedometer cable thta runs down the left side of the fuselage to the trim tab on the left elevator. At the trim tab it is welded to a 2in piece of stainless threaded rod that is screwed through a nut that is fastened to the control horn on the bottom of the trim tab.In the cabin the speedometer cable is routed through a 90degree section of tubeing and a small handle is attached to the end of the cable. When you turn the handle the cable turns and the threaded rod rotates in the nut which moves the trim tab.In line friction keeps the trim tab where it is set. Kip ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 18:46:56 -0400 To: "KR Net Mailing List" From: "Shawn Christopherson" Subject: RE: KR> trim tab Message-ID: Now that is a clever trim tab! Pretty simple and it should be able to take thousands of miles of turning! Shawn Christopherson http://ifly99.tripod.com Gardner, MA ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 22:36:31 -0500 To: "KR Net Mailing List" From: larry flesner Subject: RE: KR> trim tab Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20020530223631.008914b0@mail.midwest.net> , Shawn Christopherson wrote: >Now that is a clever trim tab! Pretty simple and it should be able to take >thousands of miles of turning! +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Yes, but you would have to observe the speed limit ! :-) Larry Flesner ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 11:42:11 -0600 To: From: "Gary Sprunger" Subject: Trim Tab Message-ID: ------=_NextPart_001_0005_01C20898.33660390 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jeff York wrote:Anbody out there think I will have any kind of elevator b= alance problem if I put the servo motor in the elevator? I purchased a servo trim motor from RThomas who was dismantling his KR2 w= hich he had flown for over 300 hours with no trouble with the servo mount= ed in the elevator. G. Sprunger KR2, Evergreen, CO ------=_NextPart_001_0005_01C20898.33660390-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 14:10:45 -0400 To: timwbrown@yahoo.com From: virgnvs@juno.com Cc: krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> trim tabs Message-ID: <20020529.141205.-441219.5.virgnvs@juno.com> As long as it is sheathed and properly clamped, it should be OK, Virg On Wed, 29 May 2002 09:08:43 -0700 (PDT) Tim Brown writes: > I guess my question posed earlier was a little > unclear because I have not received a reply on > topic yet. > > My question is aimed at the connection between > the cockpit lever and the rear of the plane. > Tony B's book shows piano wire. I was asking for > any input...pros and cons, etc., between using > the piano wire versus using cable for this run. > > Assume use of manual control rather than > electric. > > Tim > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup > http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply > all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ > and at http://www.bouyea.net/ for the older ones > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 13:53:23 -0500 To: shawn@west-tek.com From: Paul H Mueller Cc: krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> Questions about ignition Message-ID: <20020529.135324.-16444655.0.phmuel@juno.com> On Sun, 26 May 2002 10:33:15 -0400 "Shawn Christopherson" writes: > Hello all, > > I was hoping to make my first flight Friday evening, but the planets > were > apparently not aligned correctly. I got the plane out of the hanger > and > found that my points were bad. The engine is a VW Type IV 2400cc. etc. > > Shawn Christopherson > http://ifly99.tripod.com > Gardner, MA I hope you have solved your problem of carbon fouling of your spark plugs by now. Langford and Durgin sound right on to me. If you are still looking, here are a few more thoughts. Carbon fouling (a dry, fluffy sooty fouling) is commonly associated with incomplete combustion. There are several causal factors that tend to head the list. Over rich fuel mixture setting and/or a stuck choke (although few planes have chokes) are frequently seen causes. Setting up the engine for use at high power settings and then prolonged running it at idle or low power can cause this kind of fouling. Running cold plugs can also cause that carbon fouling. When engineers call out a sparkplug they set it up for what they think will be power loading of the engine. Plugs of the wrong temperature range cause problems, especially if the use of the engine is different than anticipated. Since sparkplug manufacturers arrange their plug offerings in a spectrum of temperature range, selection of plugs one or two notches higher on the chart should help. I would go slow however in making changes since too hot a plug can lead to detonation -especially at full power. While I would not discount the possibility of other ignition problems causing the fouling, I would start with plugs and carburation since all cylinders seem to be firing uniformly. That also leads me to doubt that the condenser is the problem. Ignitions are generally not very sensitive to the mfd rating of a condenser as long as there is no short and no broken lead. Mainly, a wrong rating (within reason) simply cases faster erosion of the breaker points. It used to be that checking plugs for proper heat range and points for proper condenser rating was part of every tune-up. I hope you will report the solution to you plug fouling problem since many of us may run into it. Paul Mueller, KS ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 12:37:48 -0700 To: From: "Philip Heavirland" Subject: returned mail Message-ID: ------=_NextPart_001_0000_01C2070D.A3D1CC40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable My address is PHeavirland@msn.comGet more from the Web. FREE MSN Explore= r download : http://explorer.msn.com ------=_NextPart_001_0000_01C2070D.A3D1CC40-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 18:18:42 -0400 To: From: "TONY SOLDANO" Cc: , Subject: Re: KR> Fuel tanks Message-ID: <006301c2075e$cbd13180$4cded73f@compaq> Virgil the water softener tank is 1/8 inch. thick. after adding a coat of epoxy it is very light and strong. -----Original Message----- From: virgnvs@juno.com To: tonysoldano@prodigy.net Cc: clappw@bellsouth.net ; krnet@mailinglists.org Date: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 4:32 PM Subject: Re: KR> Fuel tanks > Ain't it heavy, Virg > >On Mon, 27 May 2002 21:51:52 -0400 "TONY SOLDANO" > writes: >> Bill >> >> I am using the tank from my old water softener for a header >> tank.should get >> right around ten gallons with minor mods. >> -----Original Message----- >> From: clappw@bellsouth.net >> To: krnet@mailinglists.org >> Date: Monday, May 27, 2002 9:55 PM >> Subject: KR> Fuel tanks >> >> >> Has anyone thought about putting in aluminum tanks out of aluminum >> pipe >> along the packside of the main outboard spars? A 5" tube 5' long >> gives you >> 5 gallons - a 6" tube 5 ' long gives you 7.3 gallons - And a 10" >> round * >> 34" long header tank is 11.5 gallons. Seems it could be an easy way >> to >> manufacture a tank that could be removed from the wing (removed) and >> from >> the forward turtledeck. I believe the 5" wing tube would still fit >> in the >> taper at lower end - Two tubes back to back could also be >> installed. >> Welding on end caps, vents and fill would be easy, you would get >> every drop >> out of wing tanks due to dihedral, easy to check for contamination >> and >> filler would be toward the tip. Can anyone think of a reason it may >> not >> work. I plan to use stock ailerons so cables would not be in the >> way. They >> allready make and aluminum tank that should fit as a header (VW sand >> rails) >> Just have to modify slightly. Throw me some suggestions - Ive also >> looked >> in at plastic tanks, Also a possibility. BILL >> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply >> all" >> >> To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org >> >> See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ >> and at http://www.bouyea.net/ for the older ones >> >> > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > >To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org >For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > >See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ >and at http://www.bouyea.net/ for the older ones > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 19:25:34 -0500 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: JIM P GLENN Subject: blders. list Message-ID: <20020529.194056.-16623081.0.PRECSHARP@juno.com> Jim Glenn 211 w. rose St. Sioux Falls S.D. 57105 605-339-0242 precsharp@juno.con KR2S Tri Gear Tail Glassed Controlls Installed, all push-pull tubes not tr-3 drawings no mod to single or duel controll sticks ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 18:46:21 -0700 (PDT) To: KRNET@MAILINGLISTS.ORG From: Rick Wilson Subject: condenser for vw Message-ID: <20020530014621.92227.qmail@web21208.mail.yahoo.com> Hi, As Mark described the way to check for a spark is also the way to check a condenser, If the fire is blue, it is a hot spark and the condenser is good, if the fire is yellow or red the condenser may be weak, but I would look at the condenser as one of the last things, if all else fails. But also as Mark mentioned, it sounds like your problem is with wires or dist. cap. If not the next thing to check would be the cylinders (rings, valve guides-seals, etc.) then if that's not it, check the carb or the mixture if it has one. If you run the mixture too rich it can cause a plug to foul. It is even more susceptable to fouling if it's already getting a weak spark to begin with. You just have to change one thing at a time until you find the fix. Then you'll know what caused it. Good luck, Rick Wilson. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 19:01:26 -0700 (PDT) To: KRNET@MAILINGLISTS.ORG From: Rick Wilson Subject: electric mirrors Message-ID: <20020530020126.24837.qmail@web21207.mail.yahoo.com> Hi, there are electrically adjusted mirrors for big trucks that only go back and forth. My freightliner and a Ford I used to drive had them. They can be bought at any dealership such as peterbilt, Kenworth, Freightliner, Ford (Sterling now) for about $60-$70.00 each. They are very strong. Thanks, Rick Wilson. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 20:39:16 +0100 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: Frederic Livesey Subject: Piano wire for trim tab Message-ID: <2002052920391667465@zetnet.co.uk> Hi, just a note about piano wire, it can be quite brittle and fractures without warning as a friend of mine recently found out here in the UK. Perhaps I should add after a life span of 10 years and he is still using it on his KR2, but plans to change it every 5 Years. Fred Chester UK ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 09:55:29 -0400 To: "krnet" From: "rfarmer" Subject: engine list Message-ID: <000c01c207e1$aab1a4c0$5e5e62d8@oemcomputer> ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C207C0.21901080 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am compiling a comparison list of engines suitable for the average 2 = place homebuilt, like my KR2. The list is on my web site = www.foamhead.com and if you have any numbers you could add it would be a = big help. Weight HP & torque are the main ones but any information or = comments would be welcome. e-mail to foamhead@ls.net=20 Thanks Bob Farmer ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C207C0.21901080-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 17:00:56 +0000 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: "claude denoncourt" Subject: polliwagon Message-ID: hi guys i was offered a polliwagon 80% completed with instrument for a very nice price since the polliwagon look like a kr2 i was wondering if u guys would know something about this plane ? does it fly like a kr2? what to expect from this plane? claude montreal _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 19:12:13 -0700 To: "Krnet@Mailinglists.Org" From: "Daniel Heath" Subject: FW: Size Weight and Price Message-ID: Wow, the weight and HP is fantastic, and so is the price. Daniel R. Heath See our KR2 at: http://kr-builder.org See our EAA Chapter 242 at: WWW.EAA242.ORG -----Original Message----- From: Chuck Nearhoof [mailto:atpcoinc@netphd.net] Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 6:08 AM To: Daniel Heath Subject: Re: Size Weight and Price Daniel, The model 6.5 produces up to 240 hp. The chart on the web is a little confusing. The chart shows fuel flow of the 6.5 at different hp outputs. The 6.5 weighs 187 with accessories and cost $27,000. Scott ----- Original Message ----- From: Daniel Heath To: Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 8:38 AM Subject: Size Weight and Price > I would like to know the size, weight and price of the 120HP model. > > > Daniel R. Heath > > See our KR2 at: http://kr-builder.org > > See our EAA Chapter 242 at: WWW.EAA242.ORG > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.325 / Virus Database: 182 - Release Date: 2/19/2002 > --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.325 / Virus Database: 182 - Release Date: 2/19/2002 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.325 / Virus Database: 182 - Release Date: 2/19/2002 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 21:09:24 -0700 (PDT) To: virgnvs@juno.com, rdthomas@mindspring.com From: David Hartz Cc: krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> KR PEOPLE LIST Message-ID: <20020531040924.74900.qmail@web14704.mail.yahoo.com> ADD ME TO THE LIST. DAVID HARTZ 24160 LILAC RD. WILLITS,CALIFORNIA,95490 KR2.65HP HAPPI,ON TRI GEAR 75%COMPLETE,80%REMAINS LOCATED WILLITS AIRPORT EAA.CHAPTER 1027 PHONE 707-459-5455 --- virgnvs@juno.com wrote: > > On Sun, 19 May 2002 21:53:36 -0400 Ron Thomas > > writes: > > What is the possibility of gathering and posting a > list of KR > > interested persons home info. > > Name > > ADD TO THIS AND REPLY. ADDRESS > > > > > ONLY IF YOU WANT TO BE ON LIST. PHONE # > > > > > virgnvs@juno.com > E-Mail > KR- 1 MODEL KR > > 1200 VW PROPOSED > ENGINE > > When done 1974 start date TARGET DATE TO FLY > > > Boat, Spars done not in PRESENT STAGE OF > CONSTRUCTION. > > > > > > > RONALD D. THOMAS > > 770 603 0160 > > JONESBORO, GEORGIA 30236 > > RDTHOMAS@MINDSPRING.COM > > NOT BUILDING AT PRESENT > > CORVAIR ENGINE BUILDER > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org > , NOT "reply > > all" > > > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: > krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: > krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > > > See the KRNet archives at > http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ > > and at http://www.bouyea.net/ for the older ones > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , > NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: > krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: > krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at > http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ > and at http://www.bouyea.net/ for the older ones > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 06:50:34 -0500 To: "Robert L. Stone" , "KRNet" From: "Robert Stone" Subject: Elevator Trim Message-ID: <000e01c20899$5feecfe0$05d81a18@hot.rr.com> ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C2086F.76EF9500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Netters: This is just an opinion, but I think that trim and most = certainly elevator trim should be manual. The reason is if the trim = fails in the extreme up or down position, you are in a heap of trouble. = Failure is much more likely with an electrical than manual =20 system. You all may now proceed with the flack Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Tx rstone4@hot.rr.com ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C2086F.76EF9500-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 12:01:16 -0400 To: rstone4@hot.rr.com, krnet@mailinglists.org From: "Jeff York" Subject: Re: KR> Elevator Trim Message-ID: That makes me feel a lot better about the servo trim system I have. It's broke right now anyway. Trim flap is just swingin in the wind. I think thats what was causing me to have pitch problems on the last flight. It has me concerned about flutter now. Won't fly again until its fixed. Only problem is trying to figure out the best way to fix it. It sure is tight gettin all the way back there. The trim servo is mounted on the fuse side behind seat and runs through a channel to the back of the plane. I would suggest that if you are building.. Don't do it this way!! Anbody out there think I will have any kind of elevator balance problem if I put the servo motor in the elevator? Jeff >From: "Robert Stone" >Reply-To: "Robert Stone" >To: "Robert L. Stone" , "KRNet" > >Subject: KR> Elevator Trim >Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 06:50:34 -0500 > >Netters: This is just an opinion, but I think that trim and most certainly >elevator trim should be manual. The reason is if the trim fails in the >extreme up or down position, you are in a heap of trouble. Failure is much >more likely with an electrical than manual >system. You all may now proceed with the flack > >Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Tx >rstone4@hot.rr.com > > _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 15:24:14 -0700 (PDT) To: KRNET@MAILINGLISTS.ORG From: Rick Wilson Subject: elevator trim Message-ID: <20020531222414.71583.qmail@web21202.mail.yahoo.com> Hi, My kr2 has the mac servo and it is mounted in the elevator, as small as it is, the balance weights don't have to be very much heavier to balance it. Rick Wilson. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 08:06:24 -0400 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: stickandrudder@cs.com Subject: Trim Message-ID: <0B6AEC8E.11BDB660.C1EF9E27@cs.com> Why would a simple electric switch be more prone to problems than the mickeymouse trim control from the plans? Also - according to proper design parameters, you should be able to overpower the trim with the stick the same as an autopilot. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 09:42:09 -0700 To: "kr" From: "Bob Sauer" Subject: Cowling Message-ID: <001a01c208c2$1cca68e0$3296bbd0@home> ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01C20887.6ED8BBE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It's Friday! Anyone have a cowling that will work on a Corvair engine that they would = part with? E-mail me privately at resauer@softcom.net Thanks Bob ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01C20887.6ED8BBE0-- ------------------------------ End of krnet Digest ***********************************