From: To: Subject: krnet Digest 19 Aug 2002 17:00:10 -0000 Issue 501 Date: Monday, August 19, 2002 10:01 AM krnet Digest 19 Aug 2002 17:00:10 -0000 Issue 501 Topics (messages 12163 through 12189): ELT POSITION 12163 by: Larry Re: How much time and money when in to your KR? 12164 by: ROBERT COOPER Fuel lines 12165 by: Serge F. VIDAL 12185 by: Ronald Freiberger My useful building tips 12166 by: Serge F. VIDAL 3 1/8 instrument templates in Aircraft Spruce catalog are WRONG.... 12167 by: Jerry Mahurin 12169 by: Robert Stone 12170 by: Mark Jones 12178 by: Serge F. VIDAL 12179 by: Serge F. VIDAL New Photo 12168 by: Mark Jones Re: Elt america king 12171 by: Rick Human Lowrance GPS 12172 by: manrj.att.net 12176 by: David Taylor 12177 by: larry flesner 12184 by: Jerry Mahurin 12187 by: Dana Overall NPT and Teflon tape? 12173 by: Daniel Heath 12174 by: Mark Langford 12183 by: Jerry Mahurin 12188 by: Ron Eason Transatlantic model airplane 12175 by: Brian Kraut Another building tip: making large holes 12180 by: Serge F. VIDAL Re: Time to spruce dust once again..... 12181 by: Rick Instrument holes 12182 by: Sam Sayer Photos of my two stroke aircraft project 12186 by: van Rooyen, Hennie(SF02) Ignition 12189 by: Eric Evezard Administrivia: To subscribe to the digest, e-mail: To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail: To post to the list, e-mail: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2002 11:20:37 -0500 To: From: "Larry" Cc: Subject: ELT POSITION Message-ID: <005e01c2460a$06a9be00$f4e728d8@l0c1i1> ------=_NextPart_000_005B_01C245E0.1CDF9200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Darren, I guess the direction of your antenna ends up could depend on which way = the debris ends up!! Just kidding but that is true you know. I am not = sure it makes any difference because after an airplane crash it can be = lying on the ground, at the bottom of a pond or ocean, buried a few = inches under ground. If your seat will lean forward just put it there, = behind the seat by the side wall. =20 Larry Howell laheze@ev1.net ------=_NextPart_000_005B_01C245E0.1CDF9200-- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2002 14:32:37 -0400 To: "Wade Russell" , "krnet" From: "ROBERT COOPER" Subject: Re: KR> How much time and money when in to your KR? Message-ID: ------=_NextPart_001_0004_01C245FA.EEFB91C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Twice as much and twice as long as you anticipate. I have over $6000 in m= ine and I'm sure I have $4000 I can count on to go and probably much more= that I dont even know about. Over 700 hours loged and who knows how much= more to go. Jack Cooper ----- Original Message ----- From: Wade Russell Sent: Monday, August 12, 2002 2:08 PM To: krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: KR> How much time and money when in to your KR? =20 KR builders, I have a simple question that I know will get many different types of =20 answers however I was curious on the time frame and costs it has taken to= =20 build your KR-1 or KR-2S? Thanks in advance! - Wade Russell _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org =20 For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files ------=_NextPart_001_0004_01C245FA.EEFB91C0-- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2002 23:39:01 +0200 To: From: "Serge F. VIDAL" Subject: Fuel lines Message-ID: <001701c24636$9faeb340$14f721c4@co.za> ------=_NextPart_000_0013_01C24647.4415D8E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am mounting a Facet fuel pump on the firewall. The pump has got NPT = threads each side. Question: When I mount the fuel connectors on the NPT = threads, what should I use to seal the fit? Teflon tape? I want to redo some of the fuel lines. They currently use automotive = hoses, braided with Nylon. Is it a good idea to use hydraulic type = hoses, braided with metal, instead? Serge Vidal KR2 ZS-WEC Johannesburg, South Africa =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0013_01C24647.4415D8E0-- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2002 22:05:21 -0400 To: "Serge F. VIDAL" From: "Ronald Freiberger" Cc: "KRNET" Subject: RE: KR> Fuel lines Message-ID: Just make sure they're FUEL hoses. Do not use teflon tape. If you do use teflon tape anyway, make sure you have a very good filter just before the carburetor. If you do not use teflon tape, make sure you have a very good filter just before the carburetor. Permatex brand materials in automotive stores here, but I don't know what you have in SA. Ron Freiberger... mailto:ron.martha@mindspring.com -----Original Message----- From: Serge F. VIDAL [mailto:svidal@icon.co.za] Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2002 5:39 PM To: krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: KR> Fuel lines I am mounting a Facet fuel pump on the firewall. The pump has got NPT threads each side. Question: When I mount the fuel connectors on the NPT threads, what should I use to seal the fit? Teflon tape? I want to redo some of the fuel lines. They currently use automotive hoses, braided with Nylon. Is it a good idea to use hydraulic type hoses, braided with metal, instead? Serge Vidal KR2 ZS-WEC Johannesburg, South Africa ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2002 23:34:23 +0200 To: From: "Serge F. VIDAL" Subject: My useful building tips Message-ID: <001601c24636$9deb0a40$14f721c4@co.za> ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C24646.9E5DD600 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Since some complain that there are not enough building tips on the = KRNet, here is my small contribution Tip 1 - Converting automotive instruments into aircraft instruments When I bought ZS-WEC, there was something I did not like with the = instrument panel. It had a mixture of automotive "round" instruments = (inserted from the front) and aircraft "square" instruments (mounted = from the back). When I rebuilt the instrument panel, I decided to mount = all the instruments the same way, from the back. So, I had to convert = the automotive ones into aircraft ones. I noticed that the outside diameter of automotive instruments is almost = the same as the inside diameter of the hole for aircraft instruments. = So, I made some square flanges that have the shape and size of aircraft = instruments, complete with the 4 screw holes, and cut a hole in the = flange, the size of a hole for automotive instrument. So, the instrument = is now mounted on the flange, and the flange is mounted on the panel. I made the flanges out of aluminium, but hard, thick plastic would do. I = also painted the flanges black, because you might see a bit of rim = through the gap. Now, if you want the template for the flanges, just E-mail me off net... = and read the next tip. Tip 2 - Making templates I'm in marketing, so the software I know best and on which I work faster = is Powerpoint. So, this is what I use for templates. I draw the = templates by making the shapes I need, and double-clicking them to = define the sizes accurately. When the template is done, I print it on a = sticker label sheet, and glue it on the material (generally aluminium). = I can then drill, cut and bend very accurately: the software and printer = have more accuracy than I do. When I run out of sticker labels, well, I = just print a normal sheet, and glue it. To remove the paper when I have = finished, I use acetone. Tip 3 - Nice and cheap dual ignition system When I bought my KR2, one of the nicest things that came with it was a = very nice VW engine with a very nice ignition system. Frankly, I am = amazed at how cheap, simple, sturdy and reliable this system is. It has = run 350 hours so far without a glitch. Makes me wonder why people still = insist on using a 1930s technology, called "magnetos". Anyway, I am currently modifying the ignition . This is because the = engine I will fit as a replacement will have two spak plugs per = cylinder. It is a nice opportunity to review the system, and to give you = a brief description. I have two sets of ignition, which are mounted at each end of the = crankshaft. The ignition system comes from Honda motorcycles (CB series, = early 1980s or so). It uses magnetic pick-ups as a timing device. The = pick-up is made of two diagonally opposed magnetic sensors. The timing = trick is that every 180 degrees, two cylinders are fired; one is fired = at the correct time, the other is fired during its exhaust phase, and = therefore, fired "blank". This allows to get the timing directly from = the crankshaft. There also is an advance-retard mechanism, that is mechanical, and = centrifugal (the crankshaft speed changes the timing to full advance). How is it made dual? Well, the one at the rear has the advance-retard = mechanism, and is mounted directly on the end or the crankshaft. The one = at the front uses just the magnetic pick-ups, and a grub screw fitted = onto the propeller hub. The pick-ups are mounted solid, on a bracket, at = the exat timing. The screw gives the go.=20 Serge Vidal KR2 ZS-WEC Johannesburg, South Africa =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C24646.9E5DD600-- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2002 19:06:23 -0400 To: "KRnet" From: "Jerry Mahurin" Cc: custsvc@aircraftspruce.com Subject: 3 1/8 instrument templates in Aircraft Spruce catalog are WRONG.... Message-ID: Our day and removable instrument panel was ruined today because of an error in the Aircraft Spruce Catalog.... We laid out our instrument panel using the templates in the Aircraft Spruce catalog and center punched 'em. We then drilled all the 2 1/4" holes and tried out the instruments in the new holes. All is well so far; lookin' good.... Then after drilling the first 3 1/8 hole; something didn't look right. We tried out the instrument in the hole and it fit. But we could not drill the center punch next to it with overlapping....! Then we measured the template (which we should have done earlier....) and it was less than 3" wide. We went to two other A/S catalogs and measured them and they were off too....!! So, moral to this story do not take anybody's word for it; measure it yourself. Eventhough the catalog states, use these templates for laying out your instrument panel. Now for the disclaimer.......... I do not blame AirCraft Spruce for the misprints in their catalog; I take full responsibility for my error of not checking out the measurements before cutting. I just caution other builders to exercise more care than we (Dan and I) did. Jerry Mahurin Lugoff, SC http://kr-builder.org http://jerrymahurin.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2002 18:24:17 -0500 To: "KRNet" From: "Robert Stone" Subject: Re: KR> 3 1/8 instrument templates in Aircraft Spruce catalog are WRONG.... Message-ID: <001b01c24645$35067aa0$05d81a18@hot.rr.com> Jerry, You are very generous for not blaming Aircraft Spruce, however it was their fault because the original error was theirs. I think if you write or e-mail them and explain the situation, they would be willing to replace the ruined materiel or part at no charge to you. Not to mention the fact that you are giving them valuable information so they can correct the error. You have nothing to lose by trying and they have much to lose in the customer relations dept. Why not give it a try and let the rest of the builders know what their response was. Bob Stone, Harker Heights, TX rstone4@hot.rr.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry Mahurin" To: "KRnet" Cc: Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2002 6:06 PM Subject: KR> 3 1/8 instrument templates in Aircraft Spruce catalog are WRONG.... > Our day and removable instrument panel was ruined today > because of an error in the Aircraft Spruce Catalog.... > > We laid out our instrument panel using the templates in > the Aircraft Spruce catalog and center punched 'em. We > then drilled all the 2 1/4" holes and tried out the > instruments in the new holes. All is well so far; lookin' > good.... > > Then after drilling the first 3 1/8 hole; > something didn't look right. We tried out the instrument > in the hole and it fit. But we could not drill the center > punch next to it with overlapping....! Then we measured > the template (which we should have done earlier....) and > it was less than 3" wide. We went to two other A/S > catalogs and measured them and they were off too....!! > > So, moral to this story do not take anybody's word for it; > measure it yourself. Eventhough the catalog states, use > these templates for laying out your instrument panel. > > Now for the disclaimer.......... I do not blame AirCraft > Spruce for the misprints in their catalog; I take full > responsibility for my error of not checking out the > measurements before cutting. I just caution other > builders to exercise more care than we (Dan and I) did. > > Jerry Mahurin > Lugoff, SC > http://kr-builder.org > http://jerrymahurin.com > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2002 18:49:31 -0500 To: "Jerry Mahurin" , "KRnet" From: "Mark Jones" Cc: Subject: Re: KR> 3 1/8 instrument templates in Aircraft Spruce catalog are WRONG.... Message-ID: <003901c24648$bb9ccbc0$c5991f41@wi.rr.com> The templates which are in the catalog are not scale. They are for reference only. The "use this template" applies to part # 12-14600 which sells for $9.95 and is to scale. Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry Mahurin" To: "KRnet" Cc: Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2002 6:06 PM Subject: KR> 3 1/8 instrument templates in Aircraft Spruce catalog are WRONG.... > Our day and removable instrument panel was ruined today > because of an error in the Aircraft Spruce Catalog.... > > We laid out our instrument panel using the templates in > the Aircraft Spruce catalog and center punched 'em. We > then drilled all the 2 1/4" holes and tried out the > instruments in the new holes. All is well so far; lookin' > good.... > > Then after drilling the first 3 1/8 hole; > something didn't look right. We tried out the instrument > in the hole and it fit. But we could not drill the center > punch next to it with overlapping....! Then we measured > the template (which we should have done earlier....) and > it was less than 3" wide. We went to two other A/S > catalogs and measured them and they were off too....!! > > So, moral to this story do not take anybody's word for it; > measure it yourself. Eventhough the catalog states, use > these templates for laying out your instrument panel. > > Now for the disclaimer.......... I do not blame AirCraft > Spruce for the misprints in their catalog; I take full > responsibility for my error of not checking out the > measurements before cutting. I just caution other > builders to exercise more care than we (Dan and I) did. > > Jerry Mahurin > Lugoff, SC > http://kr-builder.org > http://jerrymahurin.com > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2002 19:34:33 +0200 To: From: "Serge F. VIDAL" Subject: Re: KR> 3 1/8 instrument templates in Aircraft Spruce catalog are WRONG.... Message-ID: <00bd01c246e2$ccc968a0$60d81ac4@co.za> That might well be, but the dimensions, as written in the catalogue, are wrong too. Serge Vidal ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark Jones To: Jerry Mahurin ; KRnet Cc: Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2002 1:49 AM Subject: Re: KR> 3 1/8 instrument templates in Aircraft Spruce catalog are WRONG.... > The templates which are in the catalog are not scale. They are for reference > only. The "use this template" applies to part # 12-14600 which sells for > $9.95 and is to scale. > > Mark Jones (N886MJ) > Wales, WI USA > E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com > Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at > http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jerry Mahurin" > To: "KRnet" > Cc: > Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2002 6:06 PM > Subject: KR> 3 1/8 instrument templates in Aircraft Spruce catalog are > WRONG.... > > > > Our day and removable instrument panel was ruined today > > because of an error in the Aircraft Spruce Catalog.... > > > > We laid out our instrument panel using the templates in > > the Aircraft Spruce catalog and center punched 'em. We > > then drilled all the 2 1/4" holes and tried out the > > instruments in the new holes. All is well so far; lookin' > > good.... > > > > Then after drilling the first 3 1/8 hole; > > something didn't look right. We tried out the instrument > > in the hole and it fit. But we could not drill the center > > punch next to it with overlapping....! Then we measured > > the template (which we should have done earlier....) and > > it was less than 3" wide. We went to two other A/S > > catalogs and measured them and they were off too....!! > > > > So, moral to this story do not take anybody's word for it; > > measure it yourself. Eventhough the catalog states, use > > these templates for laying out your instrument panel. > > > > Now for the disclaimer.......... I do not blame AirCraft > > Spruce for the misprints in their catalog; I take full > > responsibility for my error of not checking out the > > measurements before cutting. I just caution other > > builders to exercise more care than we (Dan and I) did. > > > > Jerry Mahurin > > Lugoff, SC > > http://kr-builder.org > > http://jerrymahurin.com > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2002 19:31:09 +0200 To: From: "Serge F. VIDAL" Subject: Re: KR> 3 1/8 instrument templates in Aircraft Spruce catalog areWRONG.... Message-ID: <00bb01c246e2$ca8719c0$60d81ac4@co.za> I had the same trouble when I redid the instrument panel of ZS-WEC. Now, I have made my own templates under Powerpoint, by measuring on actual instruments. Also, it seems that not two altimeters are the same shape (I'm referring to the cutout where the altimeter setting sits). Serge Vidal ----- Original Message ----- From: Jerry Mahurin To: KRnet Cc: Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2002 1:06 AM Subject: KR> 3 1/8 instrument templates in Aircraft Spruce catalog areWRONG.... > Our day and removable instrument panel was ruined today > because of an error in the Aircraft Spruce Catalog.... > > We laid out our instrument panel using the templates in > the Aircraft Spruce catalog and center punched 'em. We > then drilled all the 2 1/4" holes and tried out the > instruments in the new holes. All is well so far; lookin' > good.... > > Then after drilling the first 3 1/8 hole; > something didn't look right. We tried out the instrument > in the hole and it fit. But we could not drill the center > punch next to it with overlapping....! Then we measured > the template (which we should have done earlier....) and > it was less than 3" wide. We went to two other A/S > catalogs and measured them and they were off too....!! > > So, moral to this story do not take anybody's word for it; > measure it yourself. Eventhough the catalog states, use > these templates for laying out your instrument panel. > > Now for the disclaimer.......... I do not blame AirCraft > Spruce for the misprints in their catalog; I take full > responsibility for my error of not checking out the > measurements before cutting. I just caution other > builders to exercise more care than we (Dan and I) did. > > Jerry Mahurin > Lugoff, SC > http://kr-builder.org > http://jerrymahurin.com > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2002 18:17:53 -0500 To: "KR-Net" , "CorvAircraft" From: "Mark Jones" Subject: New Photo Message-ID: <000a01c24644$501ea020$c5991f41@wi.rr.com> ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C2461A.66FC4CE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Gentlemen, I have placed a new photo, taken today of my KR, on my website homepage. = The canopy is now installed in this photo. The gull wing is cut out on = the pilot side and is in the process of being installed. http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA=20 E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at =20 http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C2461A.66FC4CE0-- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2002 18:57:38 -0500 To: "Darren Pond" , "krnet" From: "Rick Human" Subject: Re: KR> Elt america king Message-ID: <005101c24649$df89c460$11d90cd8@compaq> Well it's not just the antenna you have to worry with it also requires a metal ground plane - that's why I went to a copper tape antenna with baulds. go to the rst website. http://www.rst-engr.com/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Darren Pond" To: "krnet" Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2002 12:22 PM Subject: KR> Elt america king HI ALL What have other KR builder done with there ELT antenna? This thing is 18" long and is supposed to be mounted vertically + -20 deg. My tail cone is pretty much inaccessible thanks to the original builder. Darren Pond Cambridge Ontario Canada CYKF Taylor Mono plane C-FVML waiting on Transport Canada PondHopper 2.2 turbo (KR2S Heavy) Early building stages pond27@rogers.com 519-651-2522 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2002 00:59:52 +0000 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: manrj@att.net Subject: Lowrance GPS Message-Id: <20020818005953.XEND28921.mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net@webmail.worldnet.att.net> Noticed on the Lowrance website that they have "unbundled" the Airmap 100 so the unit is now available without accesories. It reduces the initial price by $200. My question is, however, has anyone had any experience (good or bad) with this particular GPS? Your opinions please. Thanks. Bob M. Abilene, TX ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2002 22:49:01 -0400 To: , From: "David Taylor" Subject: Re: KR> Lowrance GPS Message-ID: <003401c24661$cffd4810$c1c46244@cx787520a> I have an Airmap 100 and haven't had any problems with it. I don't even use the external antennae and never lose a signal. It would be nicer to have a larger viewing area though. I also like the fact that it shows obstructions with heights. Just my personal experience. Your mileage may vary. -David Taylor ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2002 8:59 PM Subject: KR> Lowrance GPS > Noticed on the Lowrance website that they > have "unbundled" the Airmap 100 so the unit is now > available without accesories. It reduces the initial > price by $200. My question is, however, has anyone had > any experience (good or bad) with this particular GPS? > Your opinions please. Thanks. > Bob M. Abilene, TX > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2002 08:21:36 -0500 To: manrj@att.net,krnet@mailinglists.org From: larry flesner Subject: Lowrance GPS Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20020818082136.00859760@mail.midwest.net> >have "unbundled" the Airmap 100 so the unit is now >available without accesories. It reduces the initial >price by $200. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Bob, I'm doing a reply to all as others may want to see the feedback. I have the Lawrence 300 (the larger one) and love it. It has the same software and data base as the 100. I have seen the 100 and like the other reply I noticed the screen was smaller. I've had my unit about 5 years now. I did have a problem early on but I sent the unit back and Lawrence returned a new one. No problems since. I looked at several brands before buying the Lawrence. The features I liked about the lawrence were the screen size, easy to use software (you never have to enter data), obstacle obstruction data base (they probably all have that by now), large print size for data, highway numbers on the 20 mile range, availability of extra memory module to import US road and waterway data bases, the many screen lay-out options. The software lets you navigate through the different menus and functions with ease and that's important in the cockpit. The smaller sceen size may not be a problem, depending on how you use the unit. I found that I settled for using one screen early on. It gives the bearing, track, distance, ground speed, and ETA down the right side of the map in nice large print. I've found the greatest uses for the map are avoiding controled airspace (it flashes you a message when you start getting close), seeing how far off my original course I am (checking wind drift, etc.), verifing highway numbers, tall obstacle avoidance if I'm flying a bit low, and visual reference to the runway when using a small scale (if I ever need that feature). Do you get your directions screwed up while driving? Use the screen with the rotating compass rose to keep you straight. Too many good features and screen combinations to discuss here and I'm sure I don't use 10 percent of them. P.S. What I ment by never having to enter data is that everything you need to navigate is in the data base. You only need to select using up and down, left and right arrows and the enter button. Example: to enter a trip I move the cursor (crosshairs) to the general area of my destination on the map. Press zoom in and zoom out at the same time and the nearest 20 airports are listed. I use up/down arrow to highlight the one I want, press the right arrow twice and I'm navigating. It's just as easy to get airport information (frequencies, runways, services, etc.) enroute and at the destination. To get back to the original screen you just press the exit button and it back tracks through the screens until you are back where you started (one press for each screen so it is controlable). Hope this is the info you were looking for. Larry Flesner Carterville, Illinois, USA ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2002 22:35:24 -0400 To: From: "Jerry Mahurin" Subject: Re: KR> Lowrance GPS Message-ID: I have used the Lowrance unit for over three years now and have absolutely no complaints.... It is my primary navigation instrument in any aircraft....power or sailplanes..... I love it..... > >> Noticed on the Lowrance website that they >> have "unbundled" the Airmap 100 so the unit is now >> available without accesories. It reduces the initial >> price by $200. My question is, however, has anyone had >> any experience (good or bad) with this particular GPS? Jerry Mahurin Lugoff, SC http://kr-builder.org http://jerrymahurin.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2002 06:42:57 -0400 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: "Dana Overall" Subject: Re: KR> Lowrance GPS Message-ID: I know this is a "me too" post but me too. I have used my Lowrance Airmap 100 for a variety of things. It is very easy to navigate through the papes and is set up so that utilizing the customize feature, your own "special" page is very easy to set up. Mark can attest to this, when you are in areas of heavy restricted space all you do is hit the crosshair feature move it to the edge of the restricted and it gives you the heading to the crosshair. Larry's post was very informative concerning this unit. I'd buy it again. Dana Overall Richmond, KY http://rvflying.tripod.com _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2002 21:42:44 -0700 To: From: "Daniel Heath" Subject: NPT and Teflon tape? Message-ID: Serge, I have always heard that you should not use Teflon tape on a NPT because it is tapered and with the tape, it will be too easy to tighten it too much, which will crack the fitting. See you in Red Oak. Daniel R. Heath See our KR2 at: http://kr-builder.org See our EAA Chapter 242at: http://WWW.EAA242.ORG --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.381 / Virus Database: 214 - Release Date: 8/2/2002 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2002 20:46:42 -0500 To: From: "Mark Langford" Subject: Re: KR> NPT and Teflon tape? Message-ID: <02b801c24659$1adefc10$0100a8c0@TD310> Permatex makes a "thread sealant" #59214 for "sealing tapered metal pipe threads and fittings against leaks, vibration and shock". That's what I used on my fuel pump fittings. You'll find it at the parts store hanging around next to the Loctite. Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama mailto:langford@hiwaay.net see KR2S N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2002 22:31:57 -0400 To: "KRnet" From: "Jerry Mahurin" Subject: Re: KR> NPT and Teflon tape? Message-ID: Dan, Using the teflon tape lubricates the joint making it easier to screw in too tight and busting the fitting. You coul do the same thing with a long handled wrench. The key to not busting the fitting is judgment not blameing the tape..... > >I have always heard that you should not use Teflon tape >on a NPT because it >is tapered and with the tape, it will be too easy to >tighten it too much, >which will crack the fitting. > Jerry Mahurin Lugoff, SC http://kr-builder.org http://jerrymahurin.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2002 05:48:40 -0500 To: "Daniel Heath" , From: "Ron Eason" Subject: Re: KR> NPT and Teflon tape? Message-ID: <003d01c2476d$fb274f60$21601e41@Administration> Use Lock Tight thread sealant. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel Heath" To: Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2002 11:42 PM Subject: KR> NPT and Teflon tape? > Serge, > > I have always heard that you should not use Teflon tape on a NPT because it > is tapered and with the tape, it will be too easy to tighten it too much, > which will crack the fitting. > > See you in Red Oak. > > Daniel R. Heath > > See our KR2 at: http://kr-builder.org > > See our EAA Chapter 242at: http://WWW.EAA242.ORG > > > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.381 / Virus Database: 214 - Release Date: 8/2/2002 > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2002 22:21:53 -0400 To: krnet From: Brian Kraut Subject: Transatlantic model airplane Message-ID: <3D5F04C1.5030708@earthlink.net> --------------090903050907080405000905 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thought this would be of interest. It is from the AOPA email newsletter. MODEL AIRPLANE SET TO FLY ATLANTIC OCEAN Four model-airplane enthusiasts from Maryland were scheduled last night to launch the third of four 11-pound balsa wood airplanes from Canada in an attempt to set a world record by crossing the Atlantic Ocean. The first two, launched several days ago, lie either at the bottom of the Atlantic off Newfoundland or in a shark's belly--their GPS receivers and transmitters aren't telling. The aircraft that makes the 2,000-mile journey will be dubbed The Spirit of Butts Farm because it is launched from, well, a farm owned by Beecher Butts. The expedition is led by retired aeronautical engineer Maynard Hill, who built the 6.5-foot-wingspan aircraft, and retired NASA engineer Roy Day. Waiting for the computer-guided model in Ireland is Paul Howey, who will send a signal to cancel the autopilot and remotely guide it to a safe landing. It will cruise at 500 feet, high enough to miss the ships and low enough to avoid real airplanes. The aircraft is fueled by 5.5 pounds of Coleman lantern fuel, which it burns at a rate of 2 ounces an hour.To find out how they did, visit their Web site . --------------090903050907080405000905-- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2002 20:11:23 +0200 To: From: "Serge F. VIDAL" Subject: Another building tip: making large holes Message-ID: <00c401c246e2$d5c97c60$60d81ac4@co.za> ------=_NextPart_000_00B6_01C246F3.6C91FFE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Another thing I discovered while building is how to make large, neat = holes in wood, aluminium, or thin stainlesssteel (firewall). I found two things that work well: spades, and the flycutter. I did my = entire instrument panesl with these, cutting through 2.2mm aluminium, so = trust me, it works. Another useful tool is the stepcutter, but that's = expensive and not as useful. Holesaws are good too, but you need quite a = collection to be happy.=20 1 - Spades These are woodwork tools, but they work nicely on aluminium. They look = like drill bits, with a large, flat end (hence the name). They have a = point at the middle, so they are self centering. You can use them on a = drill press or with your electric drill. Like drill bits, one is for one = size. They go for about $ 2 a piece. I use them for all "standard" sizes = from 12mm to 40mm. 2 - Flycutter The flycutter is a drill press tool. It has a drill bit at the center, = and an adjustable arm with a cutting bit on one side. You just adjust to = the correct diameter, then lock, and drill. For pinpoint adjustment, you = use your caliper to measure the radius. You have to take into account = the diameter of the drill bit. I found that one to work well up to 12 cm = diameter. After, there is too much imbalance, so it won't work nicely on = thick material. Costs about $15 to $ 30. 3 - Stepcutter This is another bit, that looks like a large cone with steps. Each step = is another hole diameter. It is used to enlarge an existing hole. Costs = anything between $ 20 and $ 50. Hope this will help somebody. Serge Vidal KR2 ZS-WEC Johannesburg, South Africa ------=_NextPart_000_00B6_01C246F3.6C91FFE0-- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2002 14:51:12 -0600 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: Rick Subject: RE: KR> Time to spruce dust once again..... Message-ID: <41ED2F1280124E4D8B88691C9A9B5FDE011B8F@mail.binoids.com> Hi Mike I'm guessing it's been 2-1/2 years since you sold your last KR-2 = project and I'm guessing it was 75% done at that time... It's great to hear you're back again... I see you're old KR website is still up http://www.fortunecity.com/marina/anchor/270/ I beat you'll be through the whole boat stage in a few weeks second = time around. Take Care, Welcome Back and happy building ... Again Rick Hubka http://www.hubka.com/kr_main.htm rick@hubka.com 65 Butler Crescent NW Calgary AB T2L 1K4 Canada -----Original Message----- From: Mike Mims [mailto:gti20vturbo@yahoo.com]=20 Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2002 9:45 AM To: krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: KR> Time to spruce dust once again..... Well KR netters the time has finally arrived for me to start gathering parts and pieces for my next attempt at building a homebuilt aircraft. I have had tons of time to think about this and as time has gone by my life is back to a place where I can start collecting parts. I would imagine that the construction process will begin after Christmas. Once again I am choosing the KR for its bang for buck value. Some of you will be surprised that this project will be a complete 180 turn from the philosophy that was used to build the KR290 SkyPig. As a matter of fact, you could almost go as far as to say this will be more of a KR2 Classic (with minor changes). Here is the plan for the most part...... 1) VW power (IE 2180 old school powerplant) 2) KR2 plans built but fuselage just slightly longer (not wider) and horizontal stab slightly larger 3) CG range moved slightly forward of what is called out in the plans by mounting engine further FWD 4) DD wing skins if still available, if not then the latest and greatest wing from the Langford files 5) May use old school KR2 bubble with KR2 T-Deck parts 6) May even use RR retracts (dare to be old school)=20 :o) And of course it will include all the cool and nifty mods such as the elevator hinge bearings used by the great Dr D. Some of you may be scratching your head and saying "What the hell??" but in my opinion building the plane this way is the fastest way to get me in the air for the least amount of money. Hey if money was not an issue I would be building a RV right? Also I don't really need all that cockpit room anymore as I will either be flying alone or with my = girlfriend/fianc=E9e/wife who is all of 4'10" and 98lbs. And yes with the VW it may only cruise = at 125 mph but you know what? That's 125 mph faster than the plane I = currently own. :D Cheers.... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org=20 For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2002 19:19:03 -0400 To: "KR Mailing Lists" From: "Sam Sayer" Subject: Instrument holes Message-ID: ------=_NextPart_001_0000_01C246EC.1D63C860 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable To All Netters: If you had referred to Tony Bingelis' sport plan Construction Techniques = and measure hole drilling guide per the drawing on page 274 Then you woul= d never go wrong on the drilling of aircraft instruments. Sam SayerGet more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://expl= orer.msn.com ------=_NextPart_001_0000_01C246EC.1D63C860-- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2002 22:51:57 -0500 To: "'krnet@mailinglists.org'" From: "van Rooyen, Hennie(SF02)" Subject: Photos of my two stroke aircraft project Hi all, Thanks to the kindness of Daniel heath, some preliminary photos of my two stroke aircraft project can be seen here for those interested: http://kr-builder.org/Hennie/index.html I've sent some more photos to Daniel today showing the push pull tube control systems. I'll have my own web site up and running in the not too distant future. I hope to get my spars inspected by this coming weekend and then I intend to start building my much modified wings in all earnestly. I've built a true model for MSFS2002 over the weekend and it flies as anticipated, so I'm rather anxious to get it completed. Thanks again for the generosity Daniel! Regards, Hennie van Rooyen South Africa ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2002 17:10:52 +0200 To: "KR MAIL" From: "Eric Evezard" Subject: Ignition Message-ID: <000001c247a2$79a31480$d4ce07c4@erick> ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C247A3.5F514C40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Netters, It looks a good idea to get Serge to give us a wiring diagram of his = ignition system.This system is very simple and easy to install I = hear.Also the engine will run badly if the sensors polarity is = reversed,and must be done by trial and error.Whats this all about?How = about it Serge? Best Regards, Eric Evezard, South Africa ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C247A3.5F514C40-- ------------------------------ End of krnet Digest ***********************************