From: To: Subject: krnet Digest 15 Sep 2002 00:20:03 -0000 Issue 517 Date: Saturday, September 14, 2002 5:21 PM krnet Digest 15 Sep 2002 00:20:03 -0000 Issue 517 Topics (messages 12525 through 12552): Re: KR2 replies. 12525 by: Mark Langford 12526 by: Mark Langford 12528 by: WMartensJr.aol.com Re: clarify i guess 12527 by: cartera Engine can it be used 12529 by: Dave Vieira 12531 by: Dave Vieira 12544 by: Dave Vieira K R Quality 12530 by: JIM VANCE 12532 by: David McKelvey KR2 FOR SALE 12533 by: David Busby Re: KR2 replies Engines 12534 by: Phillip Matheson want to trade 12535 by: Edwin Blocher 12537 by: ROBERT COOPER 12538 by: Edwin Blocher one last try 12536 by: Rex Ellington 12540 by: Phil Maley 12546 by: Robert Stone 12548 by: bstarrs 12549 by: Robert X. Cringely 12550 by: JC Marais PRSU 12539 by: Ron Thomas Re: Engine posts 12541 by: Daniel Heath TEST 12542 by: rfarmer 12543 by: rfarmer Diehl gear fairing/fillets 12545 by: Tim Brown 12547 by: Mark Langford never too old 12551 by: jim . synergy design maidin flight disappointment or return to the sky almost 12552 by: Darren Pond Administrivia: To subscribe to the digest, e-mail: To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail: To post to the list, e-mail: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 12:31:34 -0500 To: "jim wogaman" , "hennie van `rooyan" From: "Mark Langford" Subject: Re: KR> Re: KR2 replies. Message-ID: <000e01c25b4b$69123170$5f0ca58c@mlangford> jim wogaman wrote: >KRnet does not want text about engines posted on the net. Nobody ever said that, as far as I know. It's when the thread gets rediculously far away from anything that a KR could possibly use is when it's considered to be off-topic. Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL mailto:langford@hiwaay.net see KR2S project at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 12:34:33 -0500 To: From: "Mark Langford" Subject: Re: KR2 replies. Message-ID: <001b01c25b4b$d3c2f7c0$5f0ca58c@mlangford> jim wogaman wrote: >KRnet does not want text about engines posted on the net. Nobody ever said that, as far as I know. It's when the thread gets rediculously far away from anything that a KR could possibly use is when it's considered to be off-topic. Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL mailto:langford@hiwaay.net see KR2S project at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 14:38:44 EDT To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: WMartensJr@aol.com Subject: KR> Re: KR2 replies. Message-ID: <42.2d508b17.2ab38ab4@aol.com> >In a message dated 9/13/2002 12:46:01 PM Eastern Daylight Time, jwog1@copper.net writes: > >KRnet does not want text about engines posted on the net. I'd like to ask why this is so? I recall recently one individual expressing a complaint and requesting VW engine conversations be taken to a VW Engine list and I gotta ask WHY? VW engines are still THE most common installed in KR aircraft. Corvair's, Jabiru and Rotax are right up there as frequently installed powerplants also and I think it's entirely appropriate to discuss use, installation, modification, performance, rebuild, parts supplier and any other such related information to this list. I am very interested in the installation of a Jabiru engine in a KR. Great engine, right HP number, weight is fine, I'd like to hear about experiences of installing and any hurdles to a successful installation. Just my opinion, worth what ya paid for it. :) Walt PS: Been posting so much lately I'll prolly have to turn in my "Lurk Mode" membership. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 10:40:49 -0600 To: bill kirkland From: cartera CC: jim wogaman , Bdazzcamro@aol.com, krnet@mailinglists.org, Jim Sellars Subject: Re: KR> clarify i guess Message-ID: <3D821511.C1293C52@cuug.ab.ca> --------------4789623D911BB06DBE5FB6E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Gang, Nothing like making a mountain out of a molehill, relief tube, what for? Think in all the a/c I flew only two had relief tubes. Forgot the KISS principle try Little John or Lady Jane and not pumping uphill, whewwww! bill kirkland wrote: > > relief tube is easy but try to pump up hill. Us old guys don't have that > kind of boost. > W.G.(Bill) KIRKLAND > kirkland@vianet.on.ca > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "jim wogaman" > To: ; ; "Jim Sellars" > > Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2002 11:21 AM > Subject: Re: KR> clarify i guess > > > Jim Sellers: Correct! Would be difficult to install a relief tube? How > much > > could the equipment weigh? jim wogaman > > cleo :-) > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Jim Sellars > > To: ; > > Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2002 8:31 AM > > Subject: Re: KR> clarify i guess > > > > > > > The question is rather complicated to anyone with any aviation > experience. > > > For example, if you have a head wind then even though you have an > > indicated > > > airspeed of 150 MPH, you may only cover the ground at 100 MPH. Then > again > > if > > > you run the engine at high RPM it will burn more fuel per hour of > > operation > > > and therefore not permit the maximum range that may be available at a > > lower > > > engine speed. Get it ? I try to think in terms of comfort. This is a > > racy > > > little plane by any standard, but how long are you likely to hold your > > > bladder ? 2, 4 or 6 hours and how much fun would that be crampted in > the > > > little bird?Best regards Jim > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: > > > To: > > > Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 5:28 PM > > > Subject: KR> clarify i guess > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How ever respnds to this quetsion please give fuel amount > > > engine > > > > size and range YOU get in MILES NOT HOURS please? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > > > > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > > > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > > > > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > > > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files -- Adrian VE6AFY Calgary, Alberta Mailto:cartera@cuug.ab.ca --------------4789623D911BB06DBE5FB6E0-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 11:47:05 -0700 (PDT) To: KRnet From: Dave Vieira Subject: Engine can it be used Message-ID: <20020913184705.98337.qmail@web11004.mail.yahoo.com> Hey, I have a VW 1.9 water cooled engine .. is it possible to use it in a KR 2? ===== Dave Vieira Ontario, Canada __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! News - Today's headlines http://news.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 12:02:14 -0700 (PDT) To: lacapps@attbi.com, KRnet From: Dave Vieira Subject: Re: Engine can it be used Message-ID: <20020913190214.48154.qmail@web11001.mail.yahoo.com> Well its in boat stage right now . but i have the change to get one --- "Larry A. Capps" wrote: > What's the weight of your KR2? > > Larry A. Capps > Naperville, IL > > > -----Original Message----- > I have a VW 1.9 water cooled engine .. is it > possible > to use it in a KR 2? ===== Dave Vieira Ontario, Canada __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! News - Today's headlines http://news.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2002 09:16:28 -0700 (PDT) To: Peter Johnson , KRnet From: Dave Vieira Subject: Re: KR> Engine can it be used Message-ID: <20020914161628.311.qmail@web11003.mail.yahoo.com> Hi Peter No its not the rabbit is the vanagon it is also fuel injected I am in Hamilton --- Peter Johnson wrote: > Hi Dave. The 1.9 l, is that the Rabbit, Sorroco > engine? Let me know. > Sometime ago I did a 'survey' on a great multitude > of engines, determining > (from the outside), which ones were configured so as > to allow a well layed > out conversion. All the Rabbit, Sorroco etc engines > looked very > interesting. > > I'm in Kenora, Dave, where are you? > > mailto:pjohnson@voyageur.ca > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dave Vieira" > To: "KRnet" > Sent: Friday, September 13, 2002 11:47 AM > Subject: KR> Engine can it be used > > > > Hey, > > > > I have a VW 1.9 water cooled engine .. is it > possible > > to use it in a KR 2? > > > > ===== > > Dave Vieira > > Ontario, Canada > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! News - Today's headlines > > http://news.yahoo.com > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org > , NOT "reply all" > > > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: > krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: > krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > > > See the KRNet archives at > http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > > > ===== Dave Vieira Ontario, Canada __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! News - Today's headlines http://news.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 14:05:42 -0500 To: "kr net" From: "JIM VANCE" Subject: K R Quality Message-ID: <002901c25b58$c6c76080$33000a0a@oemcomputer> ------=_NextPart_000_0026_01C25B2E.A5DC59E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable After reviewing all of the aircraft accident reports on KR's, I find = that the cause fell in three categories: fuel starvation, engine/prop = problems, and short circuits between the headphones. There were no accidents that were caused by the design or construction = of the KR. This tells me that it is a very robust design that has been = forgiving to the many modifications that have been made. The three main causes can be taken care of with the right attitude, = professionalism as a pilot, and proper flight planning. I think we have = one hell of a bird! Jim Vance ------=_NextPart_000_0026_01C25B2E.A5DC59E0-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 15:01:05 -0500 To: "kr net" From: "David McKelvey" Subject: RE: KR> K R Quality Message-ID: Don't forget the faulty stick actuator! Actually it's worth mentioning tht c.g. should be carefully considered during construction because of the variety of engines, gear and fuel tanks used. You can't assume it will come out right in your configuration especially if you've stretched it. We want KR's at fly-ins, not in accident reports!! -----Original Message----- From: JIM VANCE [mailto:VANCE@CLAFLINWILDCATS.COM] Sent: Friday, September 13, 2002 2:06 PM To: kr net Subject: KR> K R Quality After reviewing all of the aircraft accident reports on KR's, I find that the cause fell in three categories: fuel starvation, engine/prop problems, and short circuits between the headphones. There were no accidents that were caused by the design or construction of the KR. This tells me that it is a very robust design that has been forgiving to the many modifications that have been made. The three main causes can be taken care of with the right attitude, professionalism as a pilot, and proper flight planning. I think we have one hell of a bird! Jim Vance ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 15:35:32 -0500 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: David Busby Subject: KR2 FOR SALE Message-ID: <3D824C14.2030504@jefcoed.com> Have to face the facts that I don't have time to work on this project. Wife wants the garage back! In boat stage, on retracts, everything needed to finish (except resin probably too old) HAPI 1835cc still in crate, two props, all instruments, canopy, pre-formed wingtips & turtleback. In Birmingham, AL. Asking $6500.00, OBO. E-mail or call me at 205-967-1893. David Busby ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2002 08:28:50 +1000 To: From: "Phillip Matheson" Subject: Re: KR> Re: KR2 replies Engines Message-ID: <001001c25b74$f080c4e0$0100a8c0@barry> >KRnet does not want text about engines posted on the net. > Who said that engines are not welcome on the KR net. I may be confused, but the KE is not a glider, and therefore needs an engine, Has Mum stopped the engine talk or just someone who thinks they are MUM. ?? The engine can be the most expensive part of the KR so why can't we find out what works the best. Phil Matheson matheson@dodo.com.au 61 3 58833588 NSW Australia. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 18:21:39 -0500 To: "KRNet" From: "Edwin Blocher" Subject: want to trade Message-ID: <008601c25b7c$52d5a280$8b9131cc@cyou.com> ------=_NextPart_000_0083_01C25B52.672F6380 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have a KR center stick assembly. Would like to make some kind of trade = for a dual stick assembly. Thankx, ED Ed Blocher Santa Rosa Beach, Florida ------=_NextPart_000_0083_01C25B52.672F6380-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 20:48:30 -0400 To: "Edwin Blocher" , "krnet" From: "ROBERT COOPER" Subject: Re: KR> want to trade Message-ID: ------=_NextPart_001_0000_01C25B66.EABDE320 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ed Just last week I cut my dual stick assy and built it into a center stick.= Too bad I didn't hear from you last week. I thought about trying to sell= the dual stick and building from scratch but I thought it would save me = some time to use some of the parts from the dual stick. =20 Jack Cooper ----- Original Message ----- From: Edwin Blocher Sent: Friday, September 13, 2002 7:29 PM To: KRNet Subject: KR> want to trade I have a KR center stick assembly. Would like to make some kind of trade = for a dual stick assembly. Thankx, ED Ed Blocher Santa Rosa Beach, Florida ------=_NextPart_001_0000_01C25B66.EABDE320-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 19:56:51 -0500 To: "ROBERT COOPER" , "krnet" From: "Edwin Blocher" Subject: Re: KR> want to trade Message-ID: <00a401c25b89$af179280$8b9131cc@cyou.com> Jack. That's the story of my life, "a day late and a dollar short". ED Ed Blocher Santa Rosa Beach, Florida ----- Original Message ----- From: "ROBERT COOPER" To: "Edwin Blocher" ; "krnet" Sent: Friday, September 13, 2002 7:48 PM Subject: Re: KR> want to trade Ed Just last week I cut my dual stick assy and built it into a center stick. Too bad I didn't hear from you last week. I thought about trying to sell the dual stick and building from scratch but I thought it would save me some time to use some of the parts from the dual stick. Jack Cooper ----- Original Message ----- From: Edwin Blocher Sent: Friday, September 13, 2002 7:29 PM To: KRNet Subject: KR> want to trade I have a KR center stick assembly. Would like to make some kind of trade for a dual stick assembly. Thankx, ED Ed Blocher Santa Rosa Beach, Florida ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 19:39:25 -0500 To: From: "Rex Ellington" Subject: one last try Message-ID: <02f901c25b87$42e8c9a0$eb70cb43@D6R1QJ11> ------=_NextPart_000_02F6_01C25B5D.449D97A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable T. G. I. F. !! Things are falling into place better than ever before. In 1975, I bought by wood kit from Rand. I was in Houston working for = the world's largest engineering constructor, at the time. Work proceeded, but slowly. In 1979, just a few days after accepting a new job as an officer on a = huge construction project in western Colorado, a tornado hit our house. (Airplane projects in the = garage were not covered by the homeowner's policy.) New employers said we need you, come. So, I = salvaged the metal parts and controls and put them in a box and left my poor wife to be project = manager on rebuilding our home. In l979, I gave all the metal parts to a new friend and he built a KR2, = which is apparently still=20 flying somewhere. In 1982, the synfuels industry died when Congress had other things on = its mind, so I retired and=20 moved to Oklahoma and took a five-year teaching contract in Chem Eng to = kinda pay back. When the first gathering at Arkansas took place I drove over to catch up = on things. With Mark and some of the others involved showed what was being done, I got the = wood material from a discouraged builder and started over- slowly because I was already = involved in rebuilding a Tcraft. Then, in the 1990s, I got involved in research programs that really = slowed things down. In 1998, I started writing a book on reaching sustainability, which took = til now to finish. Even though it will take several months to get printed - covers too many = areas for any publisher to commit to - it is time to look beyond and get project going again. Sold the Tcraft - it went to Florida. First things first, although I'm in pretty good shape, there's no sense = in building a plane if I=20 don't have a license and I'm 81. So, yesterday I got appointment for = flight phsical - and passed. So. now I will get up to Red Oak next Friday and soak up everything I = can and plan out the new project. YeeeeeeeHaaaaaaaaaaw. Rex Ellington ------=_NextPart_000_02F6_01C25B5D.449D97A0-- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2002 17:16:40 +0800 To: "KRnet" From: "Phil Maley" Subject: RE: KR> one last try Message-ID: Rex Fantastic story. I hope everything goes well for you on your project. I am 51 and occasionally think I might be getting too old to build an aircraft. That thought will never cross my mind again. Thanks for the inspiration. Regards Phil Maley Perth, Australia -----Original Message----- From: Rex Ellington [mailto:rtecg@telepath.com] Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2002 8:39 AM To: krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: KR> one last try ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2002 12:50:04 -0500 To: , "KRnet" From: "Robert Stone" Subject: Re: KR> one last try Message-ID: <003b01c25c17$29021240$05d81a18@hot.rr.com> Phil, When the first spade full of dirt hits you in the face, then and only then will you be to old to build an airplane. The best way I can think of to get old is to see yourself that way. A lady of 72 years of age went to a flight school and told them she wanted to learn to fly. She had already passed the flight physical and was admitted. She soloed in 11 hours and passed the written test the first time around and got her license at 73. So you think you are to old, B S. Bob Stone, Harker Heights, TX (A young 73) rstone4@hot.rr.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phil Maley" To: "KRnet" Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2002 4:16 AM Subject: RE: KR> one last try > Rex > > Fantastic story. I hope everything goes well for you on your project. > I am 51 and occasionally think I might be getting too old to build an > aircraft. That thought will never cross my mind again. Thanks for the > inspiration. > > Regards > Phil Maley > Perth, Australia > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rex Ellington [mailto:rtecg@telepath.com] > Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2002 8:39 AM > To: krnet@mailinglists.org > Subject: KR> one last try > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2002 12:00:11 -0700 To: "Robert Stone" , , "KRnet" From: "bstarrs" Subject: Re: KR> one last try Message-ID: <008701c25c20$f42e9e80$9200a8c0@bstarrs> I was 45 the first time I jumped out of a plane. I'm 75 now and no longer jump,but it's tempting...who knows. Bill Starrs ps: my bones know ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Stone" To: ; "KRnet" Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2002 10:50 AM Subject: Re: KR> one last try > Phil, > When the first spade full of dirt hits you in the face, then and only > then will you be to old to build an airplane. The best way I can think of > to get old is to see yourself that way. A lady of 72 years of age went to a > flight school and told them she wanted to learn to fly. She had already > passed the flight physical and was admitted. She soloed in 11 hours and > passed the written test the first time around and got her license at 73. So > you think you are to old, B S. > > Bob Stone, Harker Heights, TX > (A young 73) > rstone4@hot.rr.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Phil Maley" > To: "KRnet" > Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2002 4:16 AM > Subject: RE: KR> one last try > > > > Rex > > > > Fantastic story. I hope everything goes well for you on your project. > > I am 51 and occasionally think I might be getting too old to build an > > aircraft. That thought will never cross my mind again. Thanks for the > > inspiration. > > > > Regards > > Phil Maley > > Perth, Australia > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Rex Ellington [mailto:rtecg@telepath.com] > > Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2002 8:39 AM > > To: krnet@mailinglists.org > > Subject: KR> one last try > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2002 12:19:11 -0700 To: "KRnet" From: "Robert X. Cringely" Subject: Re: KR> one last try Message-Id: My building partner Ralph Korngold is still going strong at 89. All it took was a couple new hips and he's good as new. We've been working together for 17 years and four planes. Bob At 12:00 PM -0700 9/14/02, bstarrs wrote: >I was 45 the first time I jumped out of a plane. I'm 75 now and no longer >jump,but it's tempting...who knows. Bill Starrs >ps: my bones know >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Robert Stone" >To: ; "KRnet" >Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2002 10:50 AM >Subject: Re: KR> one last try > > >> Phil, >> When the first spade full of dirt hits you in the face, then and only >> then will you be to old to build an airplane. The best way I can think of >> to get old is to see yourself that way. A lady of 72 years of age went to >a >> flight school and told them she wanted to learn to fly. She had already >> passed the flight physical and was admitted. She soloed in 11 hours and >> passed the written test the first time around and got her license at 73. >So >> you think you are to old, B S. >> >> Bob Stone, Harker Heights, TX >> (A young 73) >> rstone4@hot.rr.com >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Phil Maley" >> To: "KRnet" >> Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2002 4:16 AM >> Subject: RE: KR> one last try >> >> >> > Rex >> > >> > Fantastic story. I hope everything goes well for you on your project. >> > I am 51 and occasionally think I might be getting too old to build an >> > aircraft. That thought will never cross my mind again. Thanks for the >> > inspiration. >> > >> > Regards >> > Phil Maley >> > Perth, Australia >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: Rex Ellington [mailto:rtecg@telepath.com] >> > Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2002 8:39 AM >> > To: krnet@mailinglists.org >> > Subject: KR> one last try >> > >> > >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" >> > >> > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org >> > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org >> > >> > See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp >> > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files >> > >> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" >> >> To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org >> >> See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp >> or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files >> >> > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > >To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org >For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > >See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp >or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files -- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2002 21:55:40 +0200 To: "KRnet" , "Robert X. Cringely" From: "JC Marais" Subject: Re: KR> one last try Message-ID: <009101c25c28$bd02a6b0$5ddcef9b@jc> Hi Guys, The last time I had a bithday celebration, a few friends of mine took me to a silent place to comfort me. (Newscafe in the busiest part of our city near a university.) They poured a lot of beer down my throat to get me into a mood to discuss the deeper meanings of life. The main topic was to encourage me to go on a world cruise, spending about 30 000 bucks in a sensable way. Anyway, going for a PPL will be a continous outflow of money for years to come, and will double the 30k. It is time to grow up now. I am too old to act like a six year old every time a plane flies overhead, and should start to act my age. Somebody nearly 45 year old should grow up. What my dear friends said, is true. What my dear friends said was true, until now. A few of the previous messages were from guys in the 60's, and even 70's. I do not say that I will be able to make it as a KR-builder, but I will keep on dreaming, and I will keep on fiddeling in the garage. My KR is to get a new canopy. The newly blown bubble was delivered last week. Now the part starts where the grey matter must do their part. Regards to all younger than me, and those more "mature" as well. JC Marais ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 23:52:33 -0400 To: KRNET@MAILINGLISTS.ORG From: Ron Thomas Subject: PRSU Message-ID: <3D82B281.E9CBA0B4@mindspring.com> CHECH EBAY ITEM # 1857236156 OR SEARCH- SVX - For those not familiar with the Subaru SVX. It is their sports car version. Flat six 220+ HP. The PRSU listed is for their Legacy 4 cyl. engine. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2002 05:55:31 -0700 To: From: "Daniel Heath" Subject: RE: Engine posts Message-ID: RE: KRnet does not want text about engines posted on the net. I think this is not exactly what was meant. From my perspective, if you want to talk engines, in general, go to an engine forum. If you want to talk engine installations on a KR, come to the KR Net. I think that the most important thing to consider when you are going to post something, is, will this really be of interest to someone building a KR. The best thing you can post about an engine, is how you, personally, have installed your engine. Let everyone know what works for you, and how you made it work. Ask a question about something you are thinking about doing and hope that everyone in the world replies directly to you and does not post things like, "have you thought about trying that 3.8 liter Chevy magna?" I personally found the web site post about the PSRU very interesting. See you in Red Oak. Daniel R. Heath See our KR2 at: http://kr-builder.org See our EAA Chapter 242at: http://WWW.EAA242.ORG --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.381 / Virus Database: 214 - Release Date: 8/2/2002 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2002 07:45:01 -0400 To: "krnet" From: "rfarmer" Subject: TEST Message-ID: <000c01c25be4$29ad75a0$6b5b62d8@oemcomputer> ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C25BC2.A1CACA00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable TEST ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C25BC2.A1CACA00-- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2002 08:13:22 -0400 To: "krnet" From: "rfarmer" Subject: test Message-ID: <001e01c25be8$2158c040$6b5b62d8@oemcomputer> ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C25BC6.9796F460 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable test ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C25BC6.9796F460-- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2002 09:40:49 -0700 (PDT) To: Group KR NET From: Tim Brown Subject: Diehl gear fairing/fillets Message-ID: <20020914164049.27903.qmail@web9503.mail.yahoo.com> I have searched the archives and looked at several builders' sites and still have a question. What are you doing, if anything, where the main gear leg exits the stub wing? Just leave it smooth and flat (so to speak) or make a foam/glass fillet? Mark L....I noticed the text below one of your pictures said you were getting ready to make the gear leg fairings. Did you? Can you shoot me a pix? Anyone the can send pixs or ideas please help. I hope to get at least 10 hours in on my plane this weekend and this is what I want to work on. BTW: I have decided on an aluminum belly board...piano hinge...bolt to belly under main spar...operated by flap handle in front center of main spar. Any thoughts, comments or criticism on these ideas are welcome. Tim __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! News - Today's headlines http://news.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2002 13:29:09 -0500 To: "Group KR NET" From: "Mark Langford" Subject: Re: KR> Diehl gear fairing/fillets Message-ID: <000701c25c1c$9dd77ce0$5600a8c0@athlon600> Tim Brown wrote: > Mark L....I noticed the text below one of your > pictures said you were getting ready to make the > gear leg fairings. Did you? Can you shoot me a > pix? This is what I did, but that's not to say it's the best way, just the best that I'm in the mood to do right now. I just built a little duct tape dam and poured in some 2 part urethane foam, shaped it to something nicely rounded, particularly on the outside where the angle is much less than the magic 90 degrees. http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/02090605m.jpg Then I glassed it with two layers of glass, making sure that I put packing tape on the gear leg itself so that it can be "broken loose" so that the gear leg could slide around and relieve some of the stress during landings, which might keep it from cracking later on. http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/02090610m.jpg Here it is during final smoothing with a little micro filling in some of the low spots, and where it sits at the moment. http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/02091413m.jpg The trailing edge of the gear leg itself will need something, like maybe a thin aluminum or fiberglass trailing edge coming to a point. But I'm going to save that job for later (after I'm flying) after the wheel fairings are installed. I think Dan Diehl used to sell (maybe he still does) some fairings made for exactly this job. You just screw, glue, or glass them on. Troy reports that Cessna wing strut fairings fit almost perfectly, at least on his gear. More later. I'll have to do a little update before the Gathering. Right now I'm in the midst of another major basement rehab job. New paint, pegboard, wiring, etc... Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama mailto:langford@hiwaay.net see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2002 18:22:11 -0700 To: From: "jim @ synergy design" Subject: never too old Message-ID: <001401c25c56$5d552840$0101a8c0@pavilion> ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01C25C1B.A49E37E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In example: just a week or so ago, a 70something year old woman climbed = Mt. McKinley( in amazing time!). An 82 year old woman jumped into a = lake when a car with 2 people went in. she pulled a 89 year old woman = out of the sinking car. saved her life. Even if you are not able to get = a medical, It's still fun to build! Jim ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01C25C1B.A49E37E0-- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2002 20:04:01 -0700 To: "krnet" , "Goldhart, William" From: "Darren Pond" Subject: maidin flight disappointment or return to the sky almost Message-ID: <001f01c25c64$8b3cd560$60469d18@cambr.phub.net.cable.rogers.com> ------=_NextPart_000_001C_01C25C29.DE794820 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable HI All Well the Grandfather of kr's (Taylor mono plane) attempted to return = to the sky after an 8year rest. The taildragger single seater with high = time test pilot at the controls taxied out the end of the run way only = to return 18 minutes later with 260deg f oil temp waiting for some idiot = to land that called short finial 5miles out. Second attempt my test = pilot taxied out a little too quickly in a cross wind blowing 12knots = (mistake one and two). A C172 idiot did not radio intent and decided to = share the same taxi way.(number 3) Taildragger pilot did not see other = aircraft although not a problem as the taxi way was large and high and = low wings don't hit easily (number 4). Test pilot quickly moves right = and ground loops putting the prop into the taxi way. No one hurt! thats = the good thing. (please start tears here) So now my Cont A65 warp drive prop and cowling need some attention. = Ok ya they need money again.=20 I think although my major mod of installing the Cont a65 instead of = the orginal 1200vw put the C of G bang on, it put more weight forward. = The main gear, a steel leaf spring is to far back??? =20 My dilemma...... All tail draggers pilots and planes will some day = ground loop (high risk area). Tail draggers are cool, I like them, there = faster and I would be able to strut around the spam pilots with = confidence that I will some day be a better pilot. OR........ Should I = yank the steel leaf spring install composite main gear and castering = nose wheel with better brakes? May increase resale potential as tri = gear? Would some one be interested in helping modify my Excell weight and = balance so that it modifys the weight on gears legs as i load the = aircraft. I could really use the help. I orginal did the weight and = balance using the some of momments to astablish C of G. Any constructive comments would be appreciated I'm just about to do a search of our KR net on the topic of nose = gear install and see what happens.=20 Darren Pond Cambridge Ontario Canada CYKF Taylor Mono plane C-FVML Any day now It will be airborne=20 PondHopper 2.2 turbo (KR2S Heavy) Early building stages pond27@rogers.com 519-651-2522 ------=_NextPart_000_001C_01C25C29.DE794820-- ------------------------------ End of krnet Digest ***********************************