From: To: Subject: krnet Digest 16 Oct 2002 00:39:58 -0000 Issue 532 Date: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 4:41 PM krnet Digest 16 Oct 2002 00:39:58 -0000 Issue 532 Topics (messages 12801 through 12820): Re: Seat Belt Mounting 12801 by: larry flesner Re: New Photos 12802 by: Daniel Heath 12803 by: CHOCTAWCWR.aol.com 12805 by: Horn2004.aol.com Re: New Photos/gathering schedule 12804 by: Jeff York Corvair College 12806 by: Oscar Zuniga Landing gear question 12807 by: Caring Hearts EMS 12810 by: Justin 12817 by: Daniel Heath 12818 by: David McKelvey Great Plains Hydraulic brakes 12808 by: Stephen P. Glover 12813 by: Dean Selby Possible virus...... 12809 by: Jerry L. Mahurin Updated Construction Photos 12811 by: Robert7721.aol.com Search Engine 12812 by: Peg and Mike Meyer Upside Down Photo 12814 by: Mark Jones Leak Test 12815 by: ROBERT COOPER Torquer any uodates to KR2 for Flight SIM 12816 by: Jeff York 12819 by: Justin test 12820 by: ray brock Administrivia: To subscribe to the digest, e-mail: To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail: To post to the list, e-mail: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 21:11:56 -0500 To: "ROBERT COOPER" ,"krnet" From: larry flesner Subject: Re: KR> Seat Belt Mounting Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20021013211156.00885100@mail.midwest.net> ++++++++++++++++snip++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++= During the crash sequence the seat belt retaining bolt split the spar and the seat belt pulled free. With his experience I plan to also use an angle aluminum but make it long enough to bolt through both the upper and lower sections of the spar. >Jack Coper >+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++ I'm not an engineer but I'd be inclined to stay with steel for these brackets. I have one 3/16" bolt through the upper and one 3/16" bolt through the lower spar cap on each bracket. I suspect they will hold if the accident is survivable. Larry Flesner ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 06:56:04 -0700 To: "Krnet@Mailinglists.Org" From: "Daniel Heath" Subject: RE: KR> New Photos Message-ID: RE: We really need to start getting more of these planes to the gatherings because there is a lot out there we are all missing out on. Mark, Who did he buy it from and how long has it been flying? You are right, we need to get more of them to the gathering, but what will it take? I have been to gatherings where there were 20 or more. I really thought that the Texas and Arkansas people would have been to the last one. As far as numbers of KRs, I think this gathering was worse than last year, and I cannot come up with a reason why that is. If it is the weather, we certainly need to get the date set where we have a greater opportunity for good weather than we do in late September. Has anyone heard when the date for 2003 will be posted? I also think we need a site selection committee or KR Net discussion thread, or maybe we need to do what the Long EZ people do, and that is, find a place that works and go there every year. See ya in Red Oak --- 2003, Daniel R. Heath See our KR2 at: http://kr-builder.org Click on the pictures. See our EAA Chapter 242 at: http://WWW.EAA242.ORG --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.391 / Virus Database: 222 - Release Date: 9/19/2002 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 08:46:11 EDT To: danrh@att.net, krnet@mailinglists.org From: CHOCTAWCWR@aol.com Subject: Re: KR> New Photos Message-ID: <49.25659cd2.2adc1693@aol.com> --part1_49.25659cd2.2adc1693_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/14/02 5:54:02 AM Central Daylight Time, danrh@att.net writes: > I also think we need a site selection committee or KR Net discussion thread, > or maybe we need to do what the Long EZ people do, and that is, find a place > that works and go there every year. > > i always thought perry oklahoma was a good fly in. it worked for years and we always had a good turnout. if it aint broke dont fix it.......... --part1_49.25659cd2.2adc1693_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 09:37:00 EDT To: danrh@att.net, krnet@mailinglists.org From: Horn2004@aol.com Subject: Re: RE: KR> New Photos Message-ID: In a message dated 10/14/02 5:54:06 AM, danrh@att.net writes: <> Having a KR Newsletter in place which came out with a great frequency than Mr. Millers "effort" would probably bring a few more out. I think many of those with flying KRs have probably written the KRNet off as a source of information due to a history of flame wars. Steve Horn Dallas, TX ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 09:14:05 -0400 To: danrh@att.net, krnet@mailinglists.org From: "Jeff York" Subject: RE: KR> New Photos/gathering schedule Message-ID: I did not make this year because of the scheduling problems due to several things. Note: I have not been to a KR gathering yet. But attend Sun N Fun as often as I can. First and the biggest reason was the birth of my son this summer put everything behind and, second was the timing of the event. Sept is typically a bad time for me because of school and sports with 3 other sons at school age, add to this that both me and my wife juggle schedules and our careers. I could go on with that one forever. Who wins on what the family or I get to do during certain times is a good question. Anyway I am beginning to ramble. I would love to get together for a Kr gathering. June seems to be best for me. The kids are out of school, no conflicts, no other avaition outings that I can think of, no major holidays my wife and family want to attend or travel for. The weather in this part of the country is good, I am rambling again. Anyway, June has the best window of opportunity for going to a gathering for me. P.S. Bill Gaudlip built this great looking KR2. bgaudlip@lenzlink.net Jeff York >From: "Daniel Heath" >To: "Krnet@Mailinglists.Org" >Subject: RE: KR> New Photos >Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 06:56:04 -0700 > >RE: We really need to start getting more of these planes to the gatherings >because there is a lot out there we are all missing out on. > > >Mark, > >Who did he buy it from and how long has it been flying? > >You are right, we need to get more of them to the gathering, but what will >it take? I have been to gatherings where there were 20 or more. I really >thought that the Texas and Arkansas people would have been to the last >one. >As far as numbers of KRs, I think this gathering was worse than last year, >and I cannot come up with a reason why that is. > >If it is the weather, we certainly need to get the date set where we have a >greater opportunity for good weather than we do in late September. Has >anyone heard when the date for 2003 will be posted? > >I also think we need a site selection committee or KR Net discussion >thread, >or maybe we need to do what the Long EZ people do, and that is, find a >place >that works and go there every year. > >See ya in Red Oak --- 2003, > >Daniel R. Heath > >See our KR2 at: http://kr-builder.org Click on the pictures. > >See our EAA Chapter 242 at: http://WWW.EAA242.ORG > > > > >--- >Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >Version: 6.0.391 / Virus Database: 222 - Release Date: 9/19/2002 > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > >To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org >For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > >See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp >or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 12:58:02 -0500 To: corvaircraft@mailinglists.org From: "Oscar Zuniga" Subject: Corvair College Message-ID: Hello, folks; Sorry if some of you get duplicates of this post; I'm sending it to several lists to get some feedback. We are trying to set up a "Corvair College" with William Wynne here in South Texas and I'm trying to get an idea of interest level. It doesn't look like it will be possible to get it happening in time for the previously-stated Oct. 26 weekend, so if it were held the weekend of Dec. 7 here in San Antonio how many would be interested in attending? No firm committments needed, just an idea. There is no charge for the College... just bring your engine, your parts, or just yourself- and learn. Also a good chance to meet other folks who are building or thinking of building, and to answer your questions about the Corvair. Spend as much or as little time as you want; the main activity will be Saturday. Please spare everybody else the clutter by replying directly to me offline, at taildrags@hotmail.com Thanks. Oscar Zuniga San Antonio, TX mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 15:22:25 -0500 To: From: "Caring Hearts EMS" Subject: Landing gear question Message-ID: <008301c273bf$6f3e5920$75d8a93f@caringheartsems> ------=_NextPart_000_0080_01C27395.8016E2A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Does anyone know if the tires rims and brakes on my retact gear can be = used on the tri fixed gear. Trying to decide if I want to make the = change and the cost of that change if I do. Thank=20 Pat ------=_NextPart_000_0080_01C27395.8016E2A0-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 14:39:09 -0500 To: From: "Justin" Subject: KR> Landing gear question Message-ID: <000d01c273b9$5e156680$77c61b42@socal.rr.com> I dont know the awnser to that but do you have a flying KR2 with retracts? If so why convert it to a tri-gear? Justin KR2S plans, getting wood next week ----- Original Message ----- From: "Caring Hearts EMS" To: Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 3:22 PM Subject: KR> Landing gear question Does anyone know if the tires rims and brakes on my retact gear can be used on the tri fixed gear. Trying to decide if I want to make the change and the cost of that change if I do. Thank Pat ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 18:12:50 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time) To: From: "Daniel Heath" Subject: Re: KR> Landing gear question Message-Id: <3DACBD12.000003.01628@dan> --------------Boundary-00=_EDV1G6G0000000000000 Content-Type: Multipart/Alternative; boundary="------------Boundary-00=_EDV1BHK0000000000000" --------------Boundary-00=_EDV1BHK0000000000000 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Justin,=0D =0D That is a real good question. Some people are afraid of it. Some are concerned about being able to get insurance. Some people have probably listened to the wrong people who really don't know anything about this pl= ane and have come to the conclusion that it can't be flown by the ordinary person with a tail wheel on it.=0D =0D I can assure you that it can.=0D =0D See you in Red Oak 2003=0D =0D Daniel R. Heath=0D See our KR at http://KR-Builder.org Remember to Click on the Pic=0D -------Original Message-------=0D =0D From: Justin=0D Date: Monday, October 14, 2002 02:37:35 PM=0D To: krnet@mailinglists.org=0D Subject: KR> Landing gear question=0D =0D I dont know the awnser to that but do you have a flying KR2 with retracts= ?=0D If so why convert it to a tri-gear?=0D =0D Justin=0D KR2S plans, getting wood next week=0D ----- Original Message -----=0D From: "Caring Hearts EMS" =0D To: =0D Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 3:22 PM=0D Subject: KR> Landing gear question=0D =0D =0D Does anyone know if the tires rims and brakes on my retact gear can be us= ed=0D on the tri fixed gear. Trying to decide if I want to make the change and = the=0D cost of that change if I do.=0D =0D Thank=0D Pat=0D =0D =0D =0D ---------------------------------------------------------------------=0D To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all"=0D =0D To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org =0D For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org=0D =0D See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp=0D or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files=0D =0D =2E --------------Boundary-00=_EDV1BHK0000000000000 Content-Type: Text/HTML; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Justin,
 
That is a real good question.  Some people are afraid of=20 it.  Some are concerned about being able to get insurance. Som= e=20 people have probably listened to the wrong people who really don't = know=20 anything about this plane and have come to the conclusion that it c= an't be=20 flown by the ordinary person with a tail wheel on it.
 
I can assure you that it can.
 
See you in Red Oak 2003
 
Daniel R. Heath
See our KR at http://KR-Builder.org  Reme= mber to=20 Click on the Pic
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I dont know the awnser to that but do you have a f= lying=20 KR2 with retracts?
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--------------Boundary-00=_EDV1BHK0000000000000-- --------------Boundary-00=_EDV1G6G0000000000000-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 17:10:59 -0500 To: From: "David McKelvey" Subject: RE: KR> Landing gear question Message-ID: As long as the axle is the same dia. there shouldn't be any trouble. You will have to figure out a different way to mount the caliper assy, you'll see what I mean when you get to that part. I converted to fixed conventional gear and have been very happy with it so far (although not flying yet). contact me offline with any further questions. Daniel Heath makes a good point that tail draggers are nothing to be afraid of, it's cheaper to convert to, lighter and less drag. Dave, Grapevine TX davmck@witty.com -----Original Message----- From: Justin [mailto:jmw116@socal.rr.com] Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 2:39 PM To: krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: KR> Landing gear question I dont know the awnser to that but do you have a flying KR2 with retracts? If so why convert it to a tri-gear? Justin KR2S plans, getting wood next week ----- Original Message ----- From: "Caring Hearts EMS" To: Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 3:22 PM Subject: KR> Landing gear question Does anyone know if the tires rims and brakes on my retact gear can be used on the tri fixed gear. Trying to decide if I want to make the change and the cost of that change if I do. Thank Pat --------------------------------------------------------------------- To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 14:00:44 -0700 To: From: "Stephen P. Glover" Subject: Great Plains Hydraulic brakes Message-ID: <000d01c273c4$c3840a70$c18afea9@IntelliSpec> ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C2738A.16FC9BD0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Does anyone have any experience with the Great Plains hydraulic disc = conversion for the Azusa wheels? Do these brakes work well? I need to = change what I have. They are go cart style hydraulic brakes and just = don't seem to work properly. Thanks, Steve Glover Rancho Santa Margarita, Ca ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C2738A.16FC9BD0-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 18:46:11 -0500 To: KrnetMailinglistsOrg From: Dean Selby Subject: Re: KR> Great Plains Hydraulic brakes Message-id: <001f01c273dc$cc862d20$99be4ace@dean> I tried to send this straight to Steve but it keeps getting rejected so I'll post the reply on the net. They are the brakes I have on my KR. They work great. The only problem I had was getting the disc trued but after I figured that out, very simple, I had no more problems. I got mine when he first started making them so I had no instructions But I have had no problems with the way they work. Good luck, Dean ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephen P. Glover" To: Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 4:00 PM Subject: KR> Great Plains Hydraulic brakes Does anyone have any experience with the Great Plains hydraulic disc conversion for the Azusa wheels? Do these brakes work well? I need to change what I have. They are go cart style hydraulic brakes and just don't seem to work properly. Thanks, Steve Glover Rancho Santa Margarita, Ca ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 17:09:12 -0400 (EDT) To: KRJerry@jerrymahurin.com From: "Jerry L. Mahurin" Cc: krnet@mailinglists.org, n925sg@earthlink.net, taildrags@hotmail.com Subject: Possible virus...... Message-ID: <37243.216.136.91.12.1034629752.squirrel@www.jerrymahurin.com> > Netheads, Steve and Oscar, > > Two messages from Steve Glover and Oscar Z. were taking over 30 seconds > to download on a high speed connection (T1). So my email client timed > them out. Is this some virus sending trash, or are these very long > stings, or what.....???? > > Steve, Oscar; let us know.........!!! > > See our KR2 at http://kr-builder.org > > Jerry Mahurin > Lugoff, SC > email: KRJerry@jerrymahurin.com See our KR2 at http://kr-builder.org Jerry Mahurin Lugoff, SC email: KRJerry@jerrymahurin.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 18:01:34 EDT To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: Robert7721@aol.com Subject: Updated Construction Photos Message-ID: --part1_d6.1e0cd1e1.2adc98be_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Just updated my web site. Did a weigh in this weekend and took photo afterwards. I added the new photos and the CG calc spreadsheet to a new page called Weigh In on my web site. My current weight adds up to 543 pounds (KR2S), still need to fill, sand, and paint. Web site is http://www.robert7721.com or the link on Mark Langfords web site works as well. Thanks, Rob Schmitt Lees Summit, MO --part1_d6.1e0cd1e1.2adc98be_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 17:46:30 -0500 To: kr From: Peg and Mike Meyer Subject: Search Engine Message-id: <009601c273d3$8a1c4f40$49e0fea9@o0c8u6> --Boundary_(ID_1cOWot2Q72kL/fCln/IJ7A) Content-type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Has anyone tried using the new search engine recently? I'm trying to do a little review of previous threads and I keep getting a "Cannot Display Page" message. Any ideas? Mike Meyer --Boundary_(ID_1cOWot2Q72kL/fCln/IJ7A)-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 20:11:13 -0500 To: "KR-Net" From: "Mark Jones" Subject: Upside Down Photo Message-ID: <000801c273e7$c1410a60$c5991f41@wi.rr.com> ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C273BD.D80F74E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Netters, For all of you who were looking at Jeff York's photos on my site, you no = longer have to stand on your head to see the baggage area photo. I have = turned it right side up for better viewing. Thanks Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA=20 E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at =20 http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C273BD.D80F74E0-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 22:57:18 -0400 To: "krnet" From: "ROBERT COOPER" Subject: Leak Test Message-ID: ------=_NextPart_001_0000_01C273D5.0C118BE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I filled the right wing tank with 8+ gallons of gas today. I am happy to = report that more beer hit the floor today than gas. Is 24 hours long enou= gh for a leak test? I plan on opening the tank soon to install a fuel ind= icator and wanted to know if I needed to do any more repairs while I was = in the tank. Jack Cooper mailto:kr2cooper@msn.com http://www.jackandsandycooper.com/kr2 Fayetteville, NC. ------=_NextPart_001_0000_01C273D5.0C118BE0-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 16:26:18 -0400 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: "Jeff York" Subject: Torquer any uodates to KR2 for Flight SIM Message-ID: Torquer,, Are you out there. I fiinally got my Flight Sim 2002 loaded and installed the KR2 module. Its pretty cool. Are there any updates to this? I would like to improve the field of vision on the forward view out of the canopy. But most of all change it from a tail wheel to a tri gear like the KR2 I have. Can I use a paint program to modify the paint scheme and other visual effects. Jeff York _________________________________________________________________ Unlimited Internet access -- and 2 months free!  Try MSN. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/2monthsfree.asp ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 16:50:26 -0500 To: From: "Justin" Subject: KR> Torquer any uodates to KR2 for Flight SIM Message-ID: <000b01c27494$df1d0cc0$77c61b42@socal.rr.com> Can someone e-mail me a copy of the KR2 for FS directly to my e-mail??? I am building one, a fs model would be great. Justin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff York" To: Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 3:26 PM Subject: KR> Torquer any uodates to KR2 for Flight SIM Torquer,, Are you out there. I fiinally got my Flight Sim 2002 loaded and installed the KR2 module. Its pretty cool. Are there any updates to this? I would like to improve the field of vision on the forward view out of the canopy. But most of all change it from a tail wheel to a tri gear like the KR2 I have. Can I use a paint program to modify the paint scheme and other visual effects. Jeff York _________________________________________________________________ Unlimited Internet access -- and 2 months free! Try MSN. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/2monthsfree.asp --------------------------------------------------------------------- To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 19:41:04 -0500 To: From: "ray brock" Subject: test Message-ID: <000601c274ac$b5845220$902d0d44@RAY> test ------------------------------ End of krnet Digest ***********************************