From: To: Subject: krnet Digest 6 Nov 2002 15:00:39 -0000 Issue 545 Date: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 7:02 AM krnet Digest 6 Nov 2002 15:00:39 -0000 Issue 545 Topics (messages 13066 through 13095): Re: KR1 undercarriage 13066 by: Greg Martin Re: STC 13067 by: jim wogaman primer 13068 by: Paul Gangemi 13078 by: Daniel Heath auto fuel 13069 by: Oscar Zuniga Re: Flaps/ Geared engine 13070 by: Phillip Matheson fuel prices 13071 by: Bdazzcamro.aol.com 13073 by: Fillip von Schretter smooth prime 13072 by: Paul Gangemi 13083 by: Dana Overall Alamo Corvair College 13074 by: Oscar Zuniga Re: Corvair info. 13075 by: Robert X. Cringely Re: com antenna 13076 by: Kenneth L Wiltrout prop speed 13077 by: Gary Ainsworth 13079 by: Robert X. Cringely Net Archives down? 13080 by: Frank Ross How to remove exceeded Aerolite glue 13081 by: Paolo Cavazzuti 13082 by: Daniel Heath 13084 by: Robert Stone 13087 by: Jerry L. Mahurin Questions 13085 by: Mark Langford Aerolite glue. 13086 by: Audrey and Harold Woods Trying to find KR-2 N2CC. 13088 by: Tgerken4.aol.com 13090 by: Gary Ainsworth 13091 by: Ric Ryburn Re: ezmlm response 13089 by: Greg Martin Fiberglass 13092 by: ROBERT COOPER PLANS 13093 by: Justin 13094 by: Justin escribe down 13095 by: Gary Ainsworth Administrivia: To subscribe to the digest, e-mail: To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail: To post to the list, e-mail: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2002 20:05:14 -0800 To: From: Greg Martin Subject: Re: KR> KR1 undercarriage Message-ID: <000401c283b7$64609420$6401a8c0@user> Daren On the inline engine. I'm going to use a 2si, 70 hp w/ 68fbt. The weight is just under 100lbs and w/ the 3.06psru the performance should be very decent. I was able to cruise @ 165mph w/ a 1835, 50hp and a Ed Sturba prop. I have redesigned my LG but it still retracts straight back. I just fared the gear in w/ clam shells. I hope that I'll get some more out of it for cruise. Greg S. Martin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daren Cogdon" To: Sent: Sunday, November 03, 2002 2:53 PM Subject: KR> KR1 undercarriage > > > Hey dudes > > Kinda close to my previous subject of warbird lookalike KRs, has anyone > redesigned the layout of the undercarriage so that they retract > outwards/inwards like a Spitfire/Me109/Mustang or Hurricane? > > And what about an in-line engine? > > _________________________________________________________________ > Surf the Web without missing calls! Get MSN Broadband. > http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/freeactivation.asp > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 11:24:26 -0500 To: "Beverly" From: "jim wogaman" Cc: "hennie van `rooyan" Subject: Re: KR> STC Message-ID: <004501c2841e$a6231ec0$a3c429d1@jeannielobell> Beverly: Correct on all points. Back during 92 I talked with a man had a tail dragger Cessna 4 place with a Chevy V8 engine installed. Had Experimental marking. Said since he modified the engine FAA classified his plane as an experimental. His rational for mod, more speed, cheaper than AC engine and he had AC engine rebuilt sold it paid for plane! Claimed he liked it very well. Sure attracted big crowds. Believe he had 3 blade prop too. jim wogaman cleo :-) ----- Original Message ----- From: Beverly To: Sent: November 03, 2002 7:59 PM Subject: KR> STC Hey, STC stands for supplemental type certificate - it means that the original type certificate issued when the aircraft was originally built and issued its airworthiness certificate has been supplemented or modified by an approved procedure authorized by the FAA. These usually have to be purchased from the FAA and are procedures derived by some A&P or builder and then approved by the FAA. The auto gas STC can be purchased from the FAA and then by following and documenting the modifications to the aircraft in the aircraft maintenance logs, the aircraft is once again legal to fly, with the new modifications. The reason this lengthy process must be followed is that certified aircraft cannot have any modifications of the original construction that does not conform to original drawings and specifications without approval and documentation with the FAA. This is tracked throught the filing of a Form 337, which documents all major repairs and alterations to a certified aircraft. Hope this helps, Colin ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 12:02:36 -0500 (EST) To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: paulwasp@webtv.net (Paul Gangemi) Subject: primer Message-ID: <17596-3DC6A82C-2068@storefull-2192.public.lawson.webtv.net> I noticed that some builders are priming their planes twice. I always thought smooth prime was the "primary" coat. I'm not into painting yet....just curious. PLG ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 21:52:15 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time) To: From: "Daniel Heath" Subject: Re: KR> primer Message-Id: <3DC75C8F.000004.01016@dan> --------------Boundary-00=_3N93BHK0000000000000 Content-Type: Multipart/Alternative; boundary="------------Boundary-00=_3N936RO0000000000000" --------------Boundary-00=_3N936RO0000000000000 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Paul,=0D Smooth Prime recommends that you use the primer recommended for the paint you are using. If you are using their paint, then you are good to go. M= y opinion is that I don't think it matters. As if you asked for my opinion= =2E=20 I just have too many laying around and needed to get rid of a few.=0D =0D See ya in Red Oak --- 2003,=0D =0D Daniel R. 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Smooth Prime recommends that you use the primer recommended for = the=20 paint you are using.  If you are using their paint, then you a= re good=20 to go.  My opinion is that I don't think it matters.  As = if you=20 asked for my opinion.  I just have too many laying around and = needed=20 to get rid of a few.

 

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  IncrediMai= l -=20 Email has finally evolved - Click=20 Here --------------Boundary-00=_3N936RO0000000000000-- --------------Boundary-00=_3N93BHK0000000000000-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 12:51:04 -0600 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: "Oscar Zuniga" Subject: auto fuel Message-ID: Howdy, netters; Don Reid gave some clear and useful information on auto fuel STC's. However, since I just moved here from an area in Oregon that required the addition of oxygenates to auto fuel in order to reduce emissions, I am sensitive to the cautions that must be exercised when using auto fuel. In particular, there are many rubber and synthetic materials that do not take kindly to oxygenates and they swell or shrink. These materials are often found in fuel tubing, gaskets, metering needle tips, and other parts that come in contact with fuel. And for the record, if you have the Peterson STC for auto fuel, you cannot legally fly auto fuel if the oxygenate in it is alcohol... please see http://autofuelstc.com/pa/LeadD-4814.html#anchor749413 I don't know if this extends to the other available auto fuel STCs, but technically they should all be the same. There are several issues with me. One is that unless I fly in a very limited area and use only fuel from a very limited and known source, I have no way of knowing if the additives in the fuel will cause problems in my engine or not. Another is that if I fly cross-country, not only will I not know what fuel I'm getting or what additives are in it, I'll have to plan ahead to even find a source for auto fuel on the field. A third is that (in the case of Great Plains VW conversions, anyway) only 100LL avgas is recommended so the use of avgas is out. If, as William Wynne suggests, the typical fun flyer only logs 35-40 hrs. per year in their homebuilt, and using a figure of 6 gal./hr. consumption and $1 per gallon cost difference between avgas and auto gas (conservative), I arrive at $240 per year fuel cost difference. Balance that against the convenience of fueling on the field at any field with fuel services, not having to handle cans or containers, not having to worry about material degradation, and other minor inconveniences. I'll fly avgas. This helps keep the FBOs in business, and I sure need them FBOs after a cup of coffee and a few hours in the air! Oscar Zuniga San Antonio, TX mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net _________________________________________________________________ Surf the Web without missing calls! Get MSN Broadband. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/freeactivation.asp ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 07:02:18 +1100 To: From: "Phillip Matheson" Subject: Re: KR> Flaps/ Geared engine Message-ID: <000e01c2843d$16547360$e596dccb@Matheson> This is another reason the engines with a gear reduction do so well. the engine is running at it's true power RPM and the prop is in it's correct range 2500 to 3000 rpm & Engine around 4000 rpm. Phil Matheson matheson@dodo.com.au 61 3 58833588 See our engines at: http://www.vw-engines.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 15:41:21 EST To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: Bdazzcamro@aol.com Subject: fuel prices Message-ID: <149.1ebe52a.2af83571@aol.com> --part1_149.1ebe52a.2af83571_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To All Netters: Can someone tell me how much on average is fuel per gallon for 100LL avgas around the globe? Very curious on fuel prices especially in Australia and Europe. Thanks much. David Swanson (soon to be flier) Tucson, AZ. Bdazzcamro@aol.com --part1_149.1ebe52a.2af83571_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 17:53:53 -0500 To: , From: "Fillip von Schretter" Subject: Re: KR> fuel prices Message-ID: <002801c28455$0d664d10$6401a8c0@ooff8a2t> In the US between $1.70 and $3.50 depending on airport size. That is including taxes and per gallon. Europe is significantly more. It costs usually around $6.00 or more per gallon as far as I understand. The bigger the airport the higher the price. A good link would be the European fuel price survey. http://www.tmdg.co.uk/misc/fuel.html Fillip Schretter Commercial Pilot Traverse City, MI ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 3:41 PM Subject: KR> fuel prices > To All Netters: > > Can someone tell me how much on average is fuel per gallon for 100LL > avgas around the globe? Very curious on fuel prices especially in Australia > and Europe. > Thanks much. > > David Swanson (soon to be flier) > Tucson, AZ. > Bdazzcamro@aol.com > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 15:52:12 -0500 (EST) To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: paulwasp@webtv.net (Paul Gangemi) Subject: smooth prime Message-ID: <9232-3DC6DDFC-2816@storefull-2197.public.lawson.webtv.net> Smooth prime is currently being sold now with the U/V protection. That's why I wondered about the redundant primer coat. Comments? PLG ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 07:26:09 -0500 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: "Dana Overall" Subject: Re: KR> smooth prime Message-ID: Paul, as I have done numerous forums on Smooth Prime I'll chime in with a few comments. Although Smooth Prime is a more than acceptable primer, and will accept final applications other than their own paints, it's primary benefit (oh no....in my opinion) lies in it's exceptional pinhole and weave filling qualities. The underlying asset to Smooth Prime is it's use of water as it's carrying agent. The water evaparates leaving only the filler material for weight saving. The filler can then be sanded down very easily, leaving only the pinhole and weave filler left intact. At this point you can apply your finish Smooth Prime layer, or another primer (I mention primer here, as the Smooth Prime is now being used as a filling agent) of your choice. Very light weight, very nice stuff. Dana Overall Richmond, KY http://rvflying.tripod.com do not archive >From: paulwasp@webtv.net (Paul Gangemi) >To: krnet@mailinglists.org >Subject: KR> smooth prime Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 15:52:12 -0500 (EST) > >Smooth prime is currently being sold now with the U/V protection. That's >why I wondered about the redundant primer coat. > >Comments? > >PLG > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > >To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org >For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > >See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp >or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files _________________________________________________________________ Surf the Web without missing calls! Get MSN Broadband. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/freeactivation.asp ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 17:10:30 -0600 To: corvaircraft@mailinglists.org From: "Oscar Zuniga" Subject: Alamo Corvair College Message-ID: Update on the Alamo Corvair College, to be held on Jan. 18, 2003 (and I apologize if some of you receive multiple posts on this, as I don't know who is on what list... just delete the extra posts, please). I am making a presentation to the EAA Chapter 35 membership on the College this Saturday, Nov. 9. One of the Chapter members (also happens to be the airport manager) has agreed to let us use his personal shop, located on the San Geronimo field (it's an airpark), for the College. My engine will be ready to assemble, and I hope that there are others with engines or sub-assemblies ready to go so we can make maximum use of William's resources and knowledge. It's about 10 weeks away, so if you need to order parts or get things prepped, get busy! Those UPS folks will be getting into high gear over the holidays and deliveries will be getting sluggish with the holiday rush coming. Those who requested a copy of the newsletter that William puts out should have gotten one in the mail, or soon will. Lots of CorvAIRCRAFT activity out there! Oscar Zuniga San Antonio, TX mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net _________________________________________________________________ Unlimited Internet access for only $21.95/month.  Try MSN! http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/2monthsfree.asp ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 18:15:42 -0500 To: From: Robert X. Cringely Subject: Re: KR> Corvair info. Message-Id: <56AC7851-F04B-11D6-B3D1-0003935B39BC@cringely.com> Just do the math. You don't want a wood propeller to go more than 800 feet-per-second at the tip. You say you want to turn 4000 rpm. That means a diameter of 45.85 inches. Kinda small, I'd say, and that 4000 rpm is kinda big, too. Bob On Monday, November 4, 2002, at 07:34 AM, Apex Industrial Equipment Inc wrote: > I would like to ask anyone that is flying a corvair engine to post or > send me some information. > 1.) Weight of your craft > 2.) Propeller size, pitch, material and manufacturer > 3.) Speed of the aircraft at various RPMs > > I am trying to determine how fast to turn the prop without the tips > going super sonic, and still be able to turn about 4,000 RPM. I think > this should be about the right range for the engine for full power, > but that's why I am asking. > > Leigh Plymale > apexinc@btitelecom.net > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 19:09:35 -0500 To: flesner@midwest.net From: Kenneth L Wiltrout Cc: krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> com antenna Message-ID: <20021104.190937.-308161.0.klw1953@juno.com> You are so correct Larry, I went through hell last year trying to figure out why my com only had a 5 mile range. I'm using a ribbon antenna that originally was mounted length wise behind the seat, even the local avionics shop couldn't figure this out. I called the manufacture of the antenna and told him what was going on, all he said is how did you mount the ant? After I told him he laughed, then said mount it vertically, now I transmit 50 + miles.-------------------Kenny On Mon, 04 Nov 2002 07:44:32 -0600 larry flesner writes: > At 07:35 AM 11/4/02 -0500, Apex Industrial Equipment Inc wrote: > >I liked the idea for the antenna installation below the glass. I > have a > question though, could the antenna be installed using the copper > strip > method in the horizontal stabilizer? > >Leigh Plymale > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > I seem to recall that the com antenna needs to be mounted in the > vertical plane and nav antennas mounted in the horz plane. It has > to do with the orientation of the radio waves from the ground > stations or something like that. I think the two elements you see > mounted horz on the tail of Cessnas are the nav antennas. > Experts, correct me if this is wrong. > > Larry Flesner > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > > ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 19:51:21 -0500 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: Gary Ainsworth Subject: prop speed Message-ID: Does this mean that the prop speed calculator at: http://www.altimizer.com/propspd.html is wrong? Try 56" at 4000rpm 70 degF on this site! Gary garyains@kwic.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 21:50:48 -0500 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: Robert X. Cringely Subject: Re: KR> prop speed Message-Id: <63673A71-F069-11D6-B3D1-0003935B39BC@cringely.com> What it means is that the prop speed calculator is willing to accept a higher tip speed than I am. 800 feet-per-second is a good rule-of-thumb maximum for wood props with 900 feet-per-second for metal props because their thinner tips can operate efficiently at higher mach numbers. Beyond setting a target tip speed the rest is simply arithmetic. Bob On Monday, November 4, 2002, at 07:51 PM, Gary Ainsworth wrote: > Does this mean that the prop speed calculator at: > http://www.altimizer.com/propspd.html is wrong? Try 56" at 4000rpm > 70 degF on this site! > Gary > garyains@kwic.com > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 22:43:33 -0800 (PST) To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: Frank Ross Subject: Net Archives down? Message-ID: <20021105064333.98870.qmail@web40905.mail.yahoo.com> Been off the net for awhile and could follow on the Archives until last week. All I can get are "That page is unavailable" now. Back on the krnet now, but wondering what's going on with the archives? Thanks Frank Ross, San Antonio, TX __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search new jobs daily now http://hotjobs.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 10:42:32 +0100 (CET) To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Paolo=20Cavazzuti?= Subject: How to remove exceeded Aerolite glue Message-ID: <20021105094232.13757.qmail@web40609.mail.yahoo.com> Hi to all! A question to the users of Aerolite glue: how do you remove exceeded cured aerolite glue from outside the wood joints? I mean the one redundant, obviously! I’ve tried using an orbital sander, it works fine but I’m not so sure it’s the right way… could be that vibrations will affect the joint? To Macwood: possibly you could give me a suggestion? ;) Thanks a lot for any answer, Paolo Cavazzuti Modena, Italy P.S: I’ve tried a search in Krnet archives, but I didn’t find anything… sorry if this one is a repetition of something told before. ______________________________________________________________________ Mio Yahoo!: personalizza Yahoo! come piace a te http://it.yahoo.com/mail_it/foot/?http://it.my.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 05:45:29 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time) To: From: "Daniel Heath" Subject: Re: KR> How to remove exceeded Aerolite glue Message-Id: <3DC7CB79.000001.01016@dan> --------------Boundary-00=_TJV3QL80000000000000 Content-Type: Multipart/Alternative; boundary="------------Boundary-00=_TJV3LVC0000000000000" --------------Boundary-00=_TJV3LVC0000000000000 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Paolo =0D I would use a really sharp, wide chisel and shave it off.=0D =0D See ya in Red Oak --- 2003,=0D =0D Daniel R. Heath=0D =0D See our KR2 at: http://kr-builder.org Click on the Pic.=0D =0D See our EAA Chapter 242 at: http://WWW.EAA242.ORG=0D =0D =20 --------------Boundary-00=_TJV3LVC0000000000000 Content-Type: Text/HTML; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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  IncrediMai= l -=20 Email has finally evolved - Click=20 Here --------------Boundary-00=_TJV3LVC0000000000000-- --------------Boundary-00=_TJV3QL80000000000000-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 07:28:10 -0600 To: "Paolo Cavazzuti" , From: "Robert Stone" Subject: Re: KR> How to remove exceeded Aerolite glue Message-ID: <001001c284cf$2fd9e120$05d81a18@hot.rr.com> Paolo, Stop using Aerolite and use T-88 in it's place. T-88 provides a much stronger glue joint. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paolo Cavazzuti" To: Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 3:42 AM Subject: KR> How to remove exceeded Aerolite glue > Hi to all! > A question to the users of Aerolite glue: how do > you remove exceeded cured aerolite glue from > outside the wood joints? I mean the one > redundant, obviously! I've tried using an orbital > sander, it works fine but I'm not so sure it's > the right way. could be that vibrations will > affect the joint? > To Macwood: possibly you could give me a > suggestion? ;) > > Thanks a lot for any answer, > Paolo Cavazzuti > Modena, Italy > > P.S: I've tried a search in Krnet archives, but I > didn't find anything. sorry if this one is a > repetition of something told before. > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > Mio Yahoo!: personalizza Yahoo! come piace a te > http://it.yahoo.com/mail_it/foot/?http://it.my.yahoo.com/ > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 11:32:05 -0500 (EST) To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Jerry_L._Mahurin?=" Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re:_KR>_How_to_remove_exceeded_Aerolite_glue?= Message-ID: <44234.216.136.91.12.1036513925.squirrel@www.jerrymahurin.com> I wiped off the excess when clamping........... And did not have that much excess anyway. I figure that if it was good enough for WWII Mosquitoes and Spitfires, it is good enough for my little airplane. Some of those planes are still flying..... > Paolo > I would use a really sharp, wide chisel and shave it off. > > See ya in Red Oak --- 2003, > > Daniel R. Heath > > See our KR2 at: http://kr-builder.org Click on the Pic. > > See our EAA Chapter 242 at: http://WWW.EAA242.ORG > > See our KR2 at http://kr-builder.org Jerry Mahurin Lugoff, SC email: KRJerry@jerrymahurin.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 07:39:34 -0600 To: From: "Mark Langford" Subject: Questions Message-ID: <005501c284d0$c7695bf0$5e0ca58c@tbe.com> Paolo Cavazzuti wrote: >>P.S: I've tried a search in Krnet archives, but I didn't find anything. sorry if this one is a repetition of something told before.<< No problem, at all! I had a guy email me yesterday with the theory that some of you guys might be asking questions just to kinda let folks know what you're up to with your projects. That's fine too. I've just been trying to save some of you the trouble of waiting for days to get one or two replies when there are a whole lot of answers just sitting in the archives. I'm not trying to stifle KRnet traffic, just trying tosee that you get the info you need as quickly as possible. For example, Smooth Prime had 177 hits when I checked it the other day. And then there's the matter of bringing things up that have already been beat to death, just to get a fresh look at it. That's OK, because we may have new talent on-board, there may be some new technology out there that answers the problem, or maybe somebody's learned something about it since the last time we visited it. Yes, it search engine does seem to be down a lot, but usually only for a few minutes. I don't know what's happening there, but I don't dare complain! Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL mailto:langford@hiwaay.net see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 10:34:56 -0500 To: From: "Audrey and Harold Woods" Subject: Aerolite glue. Message-ID: <004201c284e0$e5182220$b0046418@baol.phub.net.cable.rogers.com> ------=_NextPart_000_003F_01C284B6.FC0697C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have used Aerolite glue. I noticed that the glue which squeezed out of = the joint and hardened will in time develope cracks which are easily = seen in it's clear surface. I discussed this with a skilled veteran = boat builder. His remarks about Aerolite were not complimentary. ( there = was a descriptive reference to a goat). I asked why . He makes racing = sailboats, the Aerolite was convenient to use. The cracking which I = mentioned extended into the joint. He found that vibration in his case = the slapping of waves on the boat promoted cracking to the point that = the glue joint became granular. The joint then failed completely with a = minimum of stress. The Department of Transort Canada at one time = approved the use of Aerolite. Now they want Expoxy.I no longer use = Aerolite because all of my project involve vibration in one form or = another. There are good uses for Aerolite but I do not believe that it = is in boats or planes. Harold Woods. Orillia,On.Canada. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.410 / Virus Database: 231 - Release Date: 10/31/02 ------=_NextPart_000_003F_01C284B6.FC0697C0-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 13:54:41 EST To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: Tgerken4@aol.com Subject: Trying to find KR-2 N2CC. Message-ID: <12.2842be19.2af96df1@aol.com> --part1_12.2842be19.2af96df1_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am trying to find any information on KR-2 serial #2543, N2CC that was buil= t=20 by Mr. William Clapp in Jacksonville, FL.=A0 I am a pilot for a corporate=20 flight department in St. Paul, MN and we are adding an aircraft and the=20 company would like that "N" number.=A0 I read that this particular KR-2 was=20 unfortunatly involved in an accident back in October 1995 and was possibly=20 sold to a Mr. Tom Dall.=A0 If anyone has any information on Mr. Dall or the=20 location of the aircraft, I would greatly appreciate it.=A0 Thanks in advanc= e.=A0=20 Tom Gerken tgerken4@aol.com. --part1_12.2842be19.2af96df1_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 16:25:41 -0500 To: Tgerken4@aol.com From: Gary Ainsworth CC: krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> Trying to find KR-2 N2CC. Message-ID: At Tuesday, 5 November 2002, Tgerken4@aol.com wrote: >I am trying to find any information on KR-2 serial #2543, N2CC that was built >by Mr. William Clapp Try: go to Krnet.org and go to the bottom and click Larry Capps 'KRnet Search Engine' and enter Clapp in the subject area. there is an intersting discussion and an Australian who might help as he bought some of the parts and has his address - maybe ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 17:17:15 -0500 To: From: "Ric Ryburn" Subject: RE: KR> Trying to find KR-2 N2CC. Message-ID: According to the FAA: (Note at the bottom, apparently Mr. Dall has not yet actually registered the aircraft. I'm sure, however, that Mr. Clapp could put you in contact with the new owner.) Ric Ryburn Aviation Maintenance Technician Technical Researcher Piedmont Hawthorne Aviation Norfolk, VA Serial Number 2543 Type Registration Individual Manufacturer Name CLAPP WILLIAM/CAROLE Certificate Issue Date None Model KR-2 Status Valid Type Aircraft Fixed Wing Single-Engine Type Engine Reciprocating Pending Number Change None Dealer No Date Change Authorized None Mode S Code 50306606 MFR Year None Fractional Owner NO ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Registered Owner Name SALE REPORTED Street 6759 NEWGATE CIR E City JACKSONVILLE State FLORIDA Zip Code 32244-6181 County DUVAL Country UNITED STATES ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Airworthiness Engine Manufacturer REVMASTER Classification Experimental Engine Model 2100 SERIES Category Amateur Built A/W Date 07/25/1986 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Other Owner Names SOLD TO DALL TOM ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 23:06:56 -0800 To: From: Greg Martin Subject: Fw: ezmlm response Message-ID: <000901c28499$f17a9300$6401a8c0@user> > Jim > The VW was just an inshop conversion of an 1835. On the VW there was no > psru. The weight was 485 empty. I burned just under 4 gph. > > With the 2si, the engine will reduce the weight about 48 to 51 lbs. The > psru that comes with the engine has 3 versions. I'll use the 3.06:1. > Cruise with the 2si should be about 5400rpm on the engine making the prop > about 1764rpm. I hope that the prop at that speed and the longer blades as > the gear is about 3.6" longer. It should be a little more efficent. And > with that I hope to be able to use a 58/60 or some where in that range. But > I'm sure that testing will answer that question far better. > > And, if you would like the only two pictures that I have of the gear > farings. Let me know and I try to find the and 'e' them to you. > > Greg S. Martin > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "jim wogaman" > To: "Greg Martin" > Cc: > Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 10:34 AM > Subject: Re: KR> KR1 undercarriage > > > > Greg: What type of engine?What type psru? What is your KR1 weight? What > was > > your GPH @ cruise? LBS is everything along with drag. thanks > > jwog1@copper.net > > cleo :-) > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Greg Martin > > To: > > Sent: November 03, 2002 11:05 PM > > Subject: Re: KR> KR1 undercarriage > > > > > > > Daren > > > > > > On the inline engine. I'm going to use a 2si, 70 hp w/ 68fbt. The > weight > > > is just under 100lbs and w/ the 3.06psru the performance should be very > > > decent. I was able to cruise @ 165mph w/ a 1835, 50hp and a Ed Sturba > > prop. > > > > > > I have redesigned my LG but it still retracts straight back. I just > fared > > > the gear in w/ clam shells. I hope that I'll get some more out of it > for > > > cruise. > > > > > > Greg S. Martin > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Daren Cogdon" > > > To: > > > Sent: Sunday, November 03, 2002 2:53 PM > > > Subject: KR> KR1 undercarriage > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hey dudes > > > > > > > > Kinda close to my previous subject of warbird lookalike KRs, has > anyone > > > > redesigned the layout of the undercarriage so that they retract > > > > outwards/inwards like a Spitfire/Me109/Mustang or Hurricane? > > > > > > > > And what about an in-line engine? > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > > Surf the Web without missing calls! Get MSN Broadband. > > > > http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/freeactivation.asp > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > > > > > > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > > > > > > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > > > > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > > > > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > > > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > > > > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > > > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 22:52:57 -0500 To: "krnet" From: "ROBERT COOPER" Subject: Fiberglass Message-ID: ------=_NextPart_001_0002_01C2851E.155B1900 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable last week I glassed a piece of styrofoam on both sides. This is 3/4" dow = foam that I bought from Lowes. Yesterday while inspecting it I noticed an= area that didn't appear to be bonded to the styrofoam. I pried it with m= y fingers and the fiberglass seperated from the styrofoam very easily. I = had forgotten to remove the thin plastic sheet that is on the foam. The p= lastic was a very good release agent. I had a perfectly flat piece of fib= erglass. I removed the plastic sheet from the foam, roughed up the fiberg= lass sheet with sandpaper and reattached it with epoxy. I was amased at h= ow easy the glass seperated from the foam. Jack Cooper mailto:kr2cooper@msn.com http://www.jackandsandycooper.com/kr2 Fayetteville, NC. ------=_NextPart_001_0002_01C2851E.155B1900-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 20:58:35 -0600 To: "KR" From: "Justin" Subject: PLANS Message-ID: <001f01c28540$663efb80$e8dd1818@socal.rr.com> ------=_NextPart_000_001C_01C2850E.1B79D200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Can someone explaine how to read the plans for a KR2S to draw it on a = table. I drew the center line, my bench is 4'wide by 16'long.=20 Justin KR2S Torrance,California EAA96 ------=_NextPart_000_001C_01C2850E.1B79D200-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 21:13:25 -0600 To: "KR" From: "Justin" Subject: Re: KR> PLANS Message-ID: <000901c28542$78896080$e8dd1818@socal.rr.com> Well I added up the 3's on the plans. They come up right, i assume they are in inchs but how do I read the plans. Where do I start drawing etc... Justin ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 11:08 PM Subject: Re: KR> PLANS > In a message dated 11/5/02 9:56:55 PM Mountain Standard Time, > jmw116@socal.rr.com writes: > > << Can someone explaine how to read the plans for a KR2S to draw it on a > table. I drew the center line, my bench is 4'wide by 16'long. >> > > Justin, I think the scale is one quarter of full size so multiply > your plans dimensions by 4 for your table layout. Your table > is the same size as mine. > > Jim Hayward > Rapid City, SD > > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 10:06:08 -0500 To: "krnet" From: "The Ainsworths" Subject: escribe down Message-ID: <001301c285a6$14b0ed80$bd24cdd1@garyains> Do not archive: I cannot get www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet to work. Is it down or am I having a problem? All I get is 'page cannot be displayed'. I use this site to go over some of the previous posts that I have deleted - not a big deal 'cause the search engine is still excellent. ------------------------------ End of krnet Digest ***********************************