From: To: Subject: krnet Digest 22 Nov 2002 12:10:33 -0000 Issue 554 Date: Friday, November 22, 2002 4:10 AM krnet Digest 22 Nov 2002 12:10:33 -0000 Issue 554 Topics (messages 13287 through 13311): Re: An Option to Rolling the Plane Over 13287 by: Sky Rider 13288 by: Dale Baldwin 13295 by: RCTRVLR.aol.com 13307 by: Dale Baldwin Ken Boyer contact 13289 by: larry flesner Tim Boyer 13290 by: Sam Sayer 13296 by: TIM BOYER Re: Plywood ribs 13291 by: George Majewski Tim's wing ribs. 13292 by: Audrey and Harold Woods THANK YOU 13293 by: TIM BOYER flaps 13294 by: Oscar Zuniga test 13297 by: RCTRVLR.aol.com Plane roll over HELP? 13298 by: RCTRVLR.aol.com 13299 by: Dan Heath 13302 by: Ralph H Snyder CORVAIR AUTHORITY 13300 by: "" To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail: To post to the list, e-mail: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 00:30:28 -0800 (PST) To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: Sky Rider Subject: Re: KR> An Option to Rolling the Plane Over Message-ID: <20021121083028.46513.qmail@web11601.mail.yahoo.com> --0-324985524-1037867428=:46355 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi Mike...a very logical question that I should have had the answer to...but I wil have to find out who makes it and I will post that on the net this weekend...be safe, have a good trip. Sky Peg and Mike Meyer wrote:Yeah, I'm interested. I would like to convert my retractable gear to a fixed gear. Who makes the fixed main gear that you want to trade? I'll be out out of town for the next 4 days, and I will return on Saturday afternoon. Please keep me advised. Mike Meyer ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sky Rider" To: Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 1:50 AM Subject: Re: KR> An Option to Rolling the Plane Over > > I have the fixed main gear legs for anyone building a tricycle KR or similar bird... > would like to either sell or trade for instruments, VW engine parts, or other usable items for a retract KR...I'm not sure of the value, if anyone has suggestions I welcome that information > Sky > Peter Johnson wrote:Two things came together for me tonight that I thought I'd pass along as something that may be of assistance to someone in the future. > > Right now I'm getting ready to mold the windshield and gullwing glass. Building the plane in a 22 ft x 26 shop doesn't leave a lot of room and I had to do something with the fuse to allow me to build a heat box and handle the molds. > > What I did was drill and turn a couple of eye lagbolts into the ceiling, hung three-part block and tackles, and lifted the fuse up and out of the way. It balanced almost perfectly on off the rear spar. > > After taking a photo of the situation I realized that hanging the fuse like this will be a great way to finish the fuse and wing bottoms. The fuse could be hung as needed to allow comfortable work while sitting in a chair. > > Anyways, hope this is of help... > > > mailto:pjohnson@voyageur.ca > > > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your site --------------------------------------------------------------------- To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now --0-324985524-1037867428=:46355-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 04:58:32 -0500 To: From: "Dale Baldwin" Subject: Re: KR> An Option to Rolling the Plane Over Message-ID: <000201c29146$fad20000$60f65b0c@computername> The down side to this is all the dust will fall in your eyes and sanding overhead is even less fun than sanding right side up. Dale Baldwin, KR-2, ATL moving to MSP ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sky Rider" To: Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 2:50 AM Subject: Re: KR> An Option to Rolling the Plane Over > What I did was drill and turn a couple of eye lagbolts into the ceiling, hung three-part block and tackles, and lifted the fuse up and out of the way. It balanced almost perfectly on off the rear spar. > > After taking a photo of the situation I realized that hanging the fuse like this will be a great way to finish the fuse and wing bottoms. The fuse could be hung as needed to allow comfortable work while sitting in a chair. > > Anyways, hope this is of help... > > > mailto:pjohnson@voyageur.ca > > > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your site ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 16:03:03 EST To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: RCTRVLR@aol.com Subject: Re: KR> An Option to Rolling the Plane Over Message-ID: <102.1f567f10.2b0ea407@aol.com> --part1_102.1f567f10.2b0ea407_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am changing my retracts also to tricycle gear, my problem now is I have never done any patching with plywood, fiberglass, filler or painting, so I have a lot to learn. Ray --part1_102.1f567f10.2b0ea407_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2002 05:13:58 -0500 To: From: "Dale Baldwin" Subject: Re: KR> An Option to Rolling the Plane Over Message-ID: <003d01c29210$a57f2360$76f15b0c@computername> Ray, At the time I did mine I had not installed the engine or mount and my wings were attached so I bolted 4' lengths of 2x12 to the firewall and with a little help rolled it over on the fire- wall. I would only be speculating as to where to support the tail or suitable support points. The plywood can be spliced per AC43.13B as most other wood structure, see the gov. printing office for a copy. Burt Rutan has a section in his Vari Easy plans on repairs. And basicly (oversimplified) he likes a two inch overlap of the glass from the old section to the new section. The old section should be as free of paint, dust etc. and with multiple plys it should be tapered. A sanding disc on a drill works good for both plywood and glass, just try to keep the edge of the layers paralell and equidistant from each other, practice on scrap plywood and you'll get the hang of it quickly. Fit in replacement foam in the repair area then lay up the glass with the largest piece being the first, the second a half inch smaller around the perimeter. There isn't anywhere on a KR that has more than two layers. As for paint, "You're on your own son." Dale Baldwin, KR-2, ATL moving to MSP ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 4:03 PM Subject: Re: KR> An Option to Rolling the Plane Over > I am changing my retracts also to tricycle gear, my problem now is I have > never done any patching with plywood, fiberglass, filler or painting, so I > have a lot to learn. > > Ray > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 07:56:07 -0600 To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: larry flesner Subject: Ken Boyer contact Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20021121075607.0089de90@mail.midwest.net> Netters, Several days back someone asked for contact info for Ken Boyer. He made some cowls and wheel pants for KR's. He decided not to build a KR and is no longer on the list. I believe he got rid of several molds, etc. but if you want to contact him is phone number is 573-543 5538. I don't have a current e-mail address for him. Larry Flesner ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 09:16:47 -0500 To: "KR Mailing Lists" From: "Sam Sayer" Subject: Tim Boyer Message-ID: ------=_NextPart_001_0007_01C2913E.B77CBB40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Please and me you correct E-mail address. Thanks The one you had posted in your request re: ribs is incorrect and I cannot= answer you. Sam Sayer Zephyrhills Fl. Karibird37@msn.comGet more from the Web. FREE = MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com ------=_NextPart_001_0007_01C2913E.B77CBB40-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 13:11:43 -0800 (PST) To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: TIM BOYER Subject: Re: KR> Tim Boyer Message-Id: <20021121211143.DB26346E7@sitemail.everyone.net> ------------=_1037913103-7562-2 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sam my correct email is flying-cowboy@emailaccount.com --- message from "Sam Sayer" attached: _____________________________________________________________ A free email account your friends will never forget! Get YOURNAME@EmailAccount.com at http://www.emailaccount.com/ _____________________________________________________________ Select your own custom email address for FREE! Get you@yourchoice.com w/No Ads, 6MB, POP & more! http://www.everyone.net/selectmail?campaign=tag ------------=_1037913103-7562-2 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary Received: from mailinglists.org (server1.mailinglists.org [63.160.175.18]) by imta14.mta.everyone.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 217E81857D1 for ; Thu, 21 Nov 2002 06:18:53 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 18093 invoked by alias); 21 Nov 2002 14:18:02 -0000 Mailing-List: contact krnet-help@mailinglists.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: Reply-To: KRnet@mailinglists.org Delivered-To: mailing list krnet@mailinglists.org Received: (qmail 18084 invoked from network); 21 Nov 2002 14:18:02 -0000 X-Originating-IP: [67.243.39.151] From: "Sam Sayer" To: "KR Mailing Lists" Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 09:16:47 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MSN Explorer 7.02.0005.2201 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0007_01C2913E.B77CBB40" Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Nov 2002 14:16:48.0826 (UTC) FILETIME=[A147D1A0:01C29168] Subject: KR> Tim Boyer Sender: krnet-return-13290-FLYING-COWBOY=emailaccount.com@mailinglists.org ------=_NextPart_001_0007_01C2913E.B77CBB40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Please and me you correct E-mail address. Thanks The one you had posted in your request re: ribs is incorrect and I cannot= answer you. Sam Sayer Zephyrhills Fl. Karibird37@msn.comGet more from the Web. FREE = MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com ------=_NextPart_001_0007_01C2913E.B77CBB40-- ------------=_1037913103-7562-2-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 09:40:26 -0500 To: , From: "George Majewski" Subject: Re: KR> Plywood ribs Message-ID: <006b01c2916b$eef72e20$b000a8c0@oemcomputer> Why not CNC-cut them? It is inexpensive, fast and VERY accurate. The only drawback is shipping cost. George ----- Original Message ----- From: "TIM BOYER" To: Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 6:52 PM Subject: KR> Plywood ribs > Hey Guys > > Today I cut my plywood wing ribs My eyes aren't the same and I ran off my cutting line in some places about 1/8in at the most. Should I be conerned or is there a way to correct this? > > Thanks > Tim > > _____________________________________________________________ > A free email account your friends will never forget! > Get YOURNAME@EmailAccount.com at http://www.emailaccount.com/ > > _____________________________________________________________ > Select your own custom email address for FREE! Get you@yourchoice.com w/No Ads, 6MB, POP & more! http://www.everyone.net/selectmail?campaign=tag > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 09:51:40 -0500 To: From: "Audrey and Harold Woods" Subject: Tim's wing ribs. Message-ID: <002501c2916d$801ad4a0$b0046418@baol.phub.net.cable.rogers.com> ------=_NextPart_000_0022_01C29143.97094A40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Deviations of 1/8' from the true shape of the wing rib must be fixed. Lay the rib on plastic, use an epoxy mixture of fairing compound etc, = gob it on the low spots. After hardening sand the side and top surface = until it is fair again. This is what I would do. Harold Woods Orillia,ON,Can. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.419 / Virus Database: 235 - Release Date: 11/13/02 ------=_NextPart_000_0022_01C29143.97094A40-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 08:58:02 -0800 (PST) To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: TIM BOYER Subject: THANK YOU Message-Id: <20021121165802.407B24325@sitemail.everyone.net> I just wanted to say THANK YOU to everyone that answered my email regarding my problem with my wing ribs. You guys are great Thanks Again Tim _____________________________________________________________ A free email account your friends will never forget! Get YOURNAME@EmailAccount.com at http://www.emailaccount.com/ _____________________________________________________________ Select your own custom email address for FREE! Get you@yourchoice.com w/No Ads, 6MB, POP & more! http://www.everyone.net/selectmail?campaign=tag ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 12:47:38 -0600 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: "Oscar Zuniga" Subject: flaps Message-ID: Back to the flap discussion (flap?) for more ideas... there are some details of a split flap setup that could work with the KR wing, over on the W.A.R. site. Go to the bottom of the 'construction tips' page, here- http://warbuddies.homestead.com/constructiontips~ns4.html Oscar Zúñiga San Antonio, TX mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 20:34:16 EST To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: RCTRVLR@aol.com Subject: test Message-ID: <1ac.c5e6a68.2b0ee398@aol.com> --part1_1ac.c5e6a68.2b0ee398_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit test --part1_1ac.c5e6a68.2b0ee398_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 20:58:00 EST To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: RCTRVLR@aol.com Subject: Plane roll over HELP? Message-ID: --part1_c6.155cc5e7.2b0ee928_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I plan on replacing the retract gear with a tricycle gear configuration. I have the wings off and now for the roll over show. I really do not want to remove the engine if I don`t have to, so what I have in mind is to place a strap loop end around the crank right up against the crankcase. I have the prop and cowling off. I will have drained all oil and gas from the engine and tank and remove the oil filter. once rolled over I plan on placing the tail section on 2 padded raisers 8" wide as tight to the fuselage on each side as possible under the elevator. I will stabilize the nose of the plane by placing tripod jack stands under each side of the engine to take most of the weight off the crank, but will still keep some tension on the crank for safety. If anybody can see a problem with my logic, or has better plan, please speak up and help a newbie out. Thanks to everybody in advance. Raymond Cavazos Chesterfield, MI. --part1_c6.155cc5e7.2b0ee928_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 21:22:41 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time) To: From: "Dan Heath" Subject: Re: KR> Plane roll over HELP? Message-Id: <3DDDBF21.00000C.01052@dan> --------------Boundary-00=_TLPY7TH0000000000000 Content-Type: Multipart/Alternative; boundary="------------Boundary-00=_TLPY24L0000000000000" --------------Boundary-00=_TLPY24L0000000000000 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable You have a big job ahead of you. It will be well worth the little bit o= f extra time that it will take to remove the engine. I am in the building process with everything on the plane except the engine. Granted, when th= e engine is on it, nothing is connected to it, but I would never attempt to turn it over without taking the engine off and have done so several times= =2E=0D =0D This thing will weigh about 520 pounds without the wings as they weigh ab= out 40 to 45 pounds each. Give yourself that extra 120 pounds by taking the engine off and give yourself the best chance you can to not destroy the entire plane.=0D =0D DanRH@KR-Builder.org=0D See ya in Red Oak --- 2003,=0D =0D Daniel R. Heath=0D =0D See our KR2 at: http://kr-builder.org Click on the Pic.=0D =0D See our EAA Chapter 242 at: http://WWW.EAA242.ORG=0D =0D =0D -------Original Message-------=0D =0D From: KRnet@mailinglists.org=0D Date: Thursday, November 21, 2002 05:58:35 PM=0D To: krnet@mailinglists.org=0D Subject: KR> Plane roll over HELP?=0D =0D I plan on replacing the retract gear with a tricycle gear configuration. = I =0D have the wings off and now for the roll over show. I really do not want t= o =0D remove the engine if I don`t have to, so what I have in mind is to place = a =0D strap loop end around the crank right up against the crankcase. I have th= e =0D prop and cowling off. I will have drained all oil and gas from the engine and =0D tank and remove the oil filter. once rolled over I plan on placing the ta= il =0D section on 2 padded raisers 8" wide as tight to the fuselage on each side= as =0D possible under the elevator. I will stabilize the nose of the plane by =0D placing tripod jack stands under each side of the engine to take most of = the =0D weight off the crank, but will still keep some tension on the crank for =0D safety. If anybody can see a problem with my logic, or has better plan, =0D please speak up and help a newbie out. Thanks to everybody in advance. =0D =0D Raymond Cavazos=0D Chesterfield, MI. --------------Boundary-00=_TLPY24L0000000000000 Content-Type: Text/HTML; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
You have  a big job ahead of you.  It will be well worth t= he little bit of extra time that it will take to remove the engine. = I am in the building process with everything on the plane except the eng= ine.  Granted, when the engine is on it, nothing is connected t= o it, but I would never attempt to turn it over without taking the engine= off and have done so several times.
 
This thing will weigh about 520 pounds without the wings as they wei= gh about 40 to 45 pounds each.  Give yourself that extra 120 po= unds by taking the engine off and give yourself the best chance you can t= o not destroy the entire plane.
 

DanRH@KR-Builder.org

See ya in Red Oak --- 2003,

Daniel R= =2E Heath

See our KR2 at: http://kr-builder= =2Eorg  Click on the Pic.

See our EAA Chapter 242 at: http://WWW.EAA242.ORG

 

-------Original Message-------
 
Date: Thursday, No= vember 21, 2002 05:58:35 PM
Subject: KR> Pl= ane roll over HELP?
 
I plan on replacing the retract gear with a tricycle gea= r configuration. I
have the wings off and now for the roll over show.= I really do not want to
remove the engine if I don`t have to, so wha= t I have in mind is to place a
strap loop end around the crank right = up against the crankcase. I have the
prop and cowling off. I will hav= e drained all oil and gas from the engine and
tank and remove the oil= filter. once rolled over I plan on placing the tail
section on 2 pad= ded raisers 8" wide as tight to the fuselage on each side as
possible= under the elevator. I will stabilize the nose of the plane by
placin= g tripod jack stands under each side of the engine to take most of the weight off the crank, but will still keep some tension on the crank for=
safety. If anybody can see a problem with my logic, or has better pl= an,
please speak up and help a newbie out. Thanks to everybody in adv= ance.

Raymond Cavazos
Chesterfield, MI.

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<= A href=3D"http://www.incredimail.com/redir.asp?ad_id=3D309&lang=3D9">= 3D""  IncrediMail - Email has= finally evolved - = Click Here --------------Boundary-00=_TLPY24L0000000000000-- --------------Boundary-00=_TLPY7TH0000000000000-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 20:10:32 -0800 To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: Ralph H Snyder Subject: Re: KR> Plane roll over HELP? Message-ID: <20021121.201032.-3538059.0.ralphndori@juno.com> Raymond I took the engine off mine and left the engine mount on the airplane. I cut 2 2x6 boards and bolted them to the engine mount, leaving them long enough at the bottom to clear my wheel fairings, and long enough at the top so a straight line from the boards to the top of the rudder would clear the turtledeck. Take 2 4x4's and bolt them vertically to the front spar fittings. These were high enough to support the fuselage inverted. You can very easily lift the fuselage up on it's nose with 2 people. It will then stand there on it's own, while you go around to the other side to lower it down and you won't damage a thing. Ralph Snyder Burbank, CA ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 22:21:55 -0500 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: "" Subject: CORVAIR AUTHORITY Message-ID: <9308fa48c6f54e519904a6092c83b4f4.caringheartsems@superpa.net> Hey Guys Does anyone know if Corvair Authority is still in business I been trying to reach them via email and phone and no one answer= s Pat ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 20:17:44 -0800 (PST) To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: TIM BOYER Subject: Re: KR> CORVAIR AUTHORITY Message-Id: <20021122041745.229F14082@sitemail.everyone.net> Im having the same problem if you find anything out please pass it on to me. Thanks --- "" wrote: >Hey Guys > >Does anyone know if Corvair Authority is still in business I been trying to= > reach them via email and phone and no one answers > >Pat > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > >To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org >For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > >See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp >or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files _____________________________________________________________ A free email account your friends will never forget! Get YOURNAME@EmailAccount.com at http://www.emailaccount.com/ _____________________________________________________________ Select your own custom email address for FREE! Get you@yourchoice.com w/No Ads, 6MB, POP & more! http://www.everyone.net/selectmail?campaign=tag ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 23:00:55 -0500 To: From: "dick" Subject: Epoxy & Ventilation.. Message-ID: <000001c291db$c40c4900$bc415fcc@D2K5Z811> ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C291B1.DB364100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all, I've never been accused of being ignorant.. just a little dense!! :-) Every thing I have read on using epoxy warns of providing adequate ventilation. I can not find any information as to what constitutes "adequate ventilation" I have a large basement and a two car attached garage. Does all of this mean I have to install a fresh air exchange system or keep the doors and windows open ???? Maybe a HobbyAir respirator setup?? Any information on this would be greatly appreciated. Dick ( KR2S plans ordered) Fisher Franklin, PA dick@galacticis.com ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C291B1.DB364100-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 22:17:04 -0800 To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: "Lynn Hyder" Subject: Re: KR> Epoxy & Ventilation.. Message-ID: Dick, Have every thing warmed up before you start. A little fresh air across the work area during the layup won't hurt anything. Then close up the shop and go relax. Don't forget to go back and make those razor cuts. Then the layup will be done. Lynn N37LH >Hi all, > > I've never been accused of being ignorant.. >just a little dense!! :-) Every thing I have read >on using epoxy warns of providing adequate >ventilation. I can not find any information as >to what constitutes "adequate ventilation" > I have a large basement and a two car >attached garage. Does all of this mean I >have to install a fresh air exchange system or >keep the doors and windows open ???? >Maybe a HobbyAir respirator setup?? > >Any information on this would be greatly >appreciated. > > >Dick ( KR2S plans ordered) Fisher >Franklin, PA >dick@galacticis.com > _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2002 06:25:34 -0500 (EST) To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: paulwasp@webtv.net (Paul Gangemi) Subject: Re: KR> Epoxy & Ventilation.. Message-ID: <12260-3DDE142E-998@storefull-2191.public.lawson.webtv.net> Hi Dick, welcome to the '2s we're all in the same boat club. I would say just leave the doors and windows and doors open. I did use a fan to blow dust away from me, though, while sanding. Depends on how sensitive you are. Paul Erie, PA KR2s....around %50 PLG ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2002 07:14:07 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time) To: From: "Dan Heath" Subject: Re: KR> Epoxy & Ventilation.. Message-Id: <3DDE49BF.000027.01052@dan> --------------Boundary-00=_JZGZGSK2QL8000000000 Content-Type: Multipart/Alternative; boundary="------------Boundary-00=_JZGZB2O2QL8000000000" --------------Boundary-00=_JZGZB2O2QL8000000000 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I open the window and turn on a window fan in exhaust mode. If I cannot = do this, because it is too cold, sometimes I will just use a respirator mask like you use when painting.=0D =0D DanRH@KR-Builder.org=0D See ya in Red Oak --- 2003,=0D =0D Daniel R. Heath=0D =0D See our KR2 at: http://kr-builder.org Click on the Pic.=0D =0D See our EAA Chapter 242 at: http://WWW.EAA242.ORG=0D =0D =0D -------Original Message-------=0D =0D From: KRnet@mailinglists.org=0D Date: Thursday, November 21, 2002 08:01:19 PM=0D To: krnet@mailinglists.org=0D Subject: KR> Epoxy & Ventilation..=0D =0D Hi all,=0D =0D I've never been accused of being ignorant..=0D just a little dense!! :-) Every thing I have read=0D on using epoxy warns of providing adequate=0D ventilation. I can not find any information as=0D to what constitutes "adequate ventilation"=0D I have a large basement and a two car=0D attached garage. Does all of this mean I =0D have to install a fresh air exchange system or=0D keep the doors and windows open ???? =0D Maybe a HobbyAir respirator setup?? =0D =0D Any information on this would be greatly=0D appreciated.=0D =0D =0D Dick ( KR2S plans ordered) Fisher=0D Franklin, PA=0D dick@galacticis.com=20 --------------Boundary-00=_JZGZB2O2QL8000000000 Content-Type: Text/HTML; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I open the window and turn on a window fan in exhaust mode.&nbs= p; If I cannot do this, because it is too cold, sometimes I will just use= a respirator mask like you use when painting.
 

DanRH@KR-Builder.org

See ya in Red Oak --- 2003,

Daniel R= =2E Heath

See our KR2 at: http://kr-builder= =2Eorg  Click on the Pic.

See our EAA Chapter 242 at: http://WWW.EAA242.ORG

 

-------Original Message-------
 
Date: Thursday, No= vember 21, 2002 08:01:19 PM
Subject: KR> Ep= oxy & Ventilation..
 
Hi all,

I've never been accused of being ignorant= =2E.
just a little dense!! :-) Every thing I have read
on using epo= xy warns of providing adequate
ventilation. I can not find any informa= tion as
to what constitutes "adequate ventilation"
I have a large b= asement and a two car
attached garage. Does all of this mean I
hav= e to install a fresh air exchange system or
keep the doors and windows= open ????
Maybe a HobbyAir respirator setup??

Any informatio= n on this would be greatly
appreciated.


Dick ( KR2S plans o= rdered) Fisher
Franklin, PA
= dick@galacticis.com


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<= A href=3D"http://www.incredimail.com/redir.asp?ad_id=3D309&lang=3D9">= 3D""  IncrediMail - Email has= finally evolved - = Click Here --------------Boundary-00=_JZGZB2O2QL8000000000-- --------------Boundary-00=_JZGZGSK2QL8000000000-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2002 00:46:38 -0500 To: From: "bill kirkland" Subject: Re: KR> Aft spar attach Message-ID: <004801c291ea$87a1d520$eb942a18@lndn.phub.net.cable.rogers.com> Larry; Thats what I'm doing. makes for a bit of eccentricity but it shouldn't hurt especially on the rear spar W.G.(Bill) KIRKLAND kirkland@vianet.on.ca ----- Original Message ----- From: "larry flesner" To: Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 7:13 AM Subject: Re: KR> Aft spar attach > My dilema is that if I install the brackets, they become too wide to > attach to the aft center spar. Bill Clapp > >+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++= > > I haven't seen anyone make any suggestions on this so I'll > throw something out here. > > Seems to me this would make both sets of brackets, center > section and wing panel, equal distance apart and brackets would > would come together end to end when you install the wing. > > Engineer types, is there any reason the the rear outer spar > brackets MUST install INSIDE the center section rear spar brackets > or could the outer wing brackets be bolted to the forward face > of each center section bracket? If possible it would eliminate > the need to rework the spar. > > Just a thought. Your results may vary. > > Larry Flesner > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2002 01:00:11 -0500 To: "krnet" From: "bill kirkland" Subject: wing ribs Message-ID: <009901c291ec$6b6844a0$eb942a18@lndn.phub.net.cable.rogers.com> ------=_NextPart_000_0096_01C291C2.8245F160 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable since the ribs are not structural but are to establish the shape of the = airfoil; glue a small sister strip to the rib to build it up, then cut = it to the proper shape. simple and inexpensive. W.G.(Bill) KIRKLAND kirkland@vianet.on.ca ------=_NextPart_000_0096_01C291C2.8245F160-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2002 06:06:01 -0500 (EST) To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: paulwasp@webtv.net (Paul Gangemi) Subject: Re: Glass plys Message-ID: <12253-3DDE0F99-2298@storefull-2191.public.lawson.webtv.net> The leading edge on a KR2s has FOUR glass plys. Two on top of the wing over-lapping the main spar and wrapping around the leading edge, and two on the bottom over-lapping the main spar and wrapping around the leading edge, all with 11/2 to 2inch overlaps. This gives the leading edge 4 plys. The wing step is another area where 3 or 4 plys may be desireable. Paul Gangemi KR2s %50 or so PLG ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2002 06:43:10 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time) To: From: "Dan Heath" Subject: Re: KR>The wing step is another area where 3 or 4 plys may be desireable Message-Id: <3DDE427E.000015.01052@dan> --------------Boundary-00=_YJFZYHI1VA4000000000 Content-Type: Multipart/Alternative; boundary="------------Boundary-00=_YJFZTSM1VA4000000000" --------------Boundary-00=_YJFZTSM1VA4000000000 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The wing step is optional and if you are building a conventional gear, yo= u don't need it.=0D =0D DanRH@KR-Builder.org=0D See ya in Red Oak --- 2003,=0D =0D Daniel R. Heath=0D =0D See our KR2 at: http://kr-builder.org Click on the Pic.=0D =0D See our EAA Chapter 242 at: http://WWW.EAA242.ORG=0D =0D =0D =0D =0D ---------------------------------------------------------------------=0D To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all"=0D =0D To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org =0D For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org=0D =0D See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp=0D or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files=0D =0D =2E=20 --------------Boundary-00=_YJFZTSM1VA4000000000 Content-Type: Text/HTML; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
The wing step is optional and if you are building a conventional gea= r, you don't need it.
 

DanRH@KR-Builder.org

See ya in Red Oak --- 2003,

Daniel R= =2E Heath

See our KR2 at: http://kr-builder= =2Eorg  Click on the Pic.

See our EAA Chapter 242 at: http://WWW.EAA242.ORG

 



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